[Full-Disclosure] Re: January 15 is Personal Firewall Day, help the cause
David F. Skoll
dfs at roaringpenguin.com
Thu Jan 15 20:37:19 GMT 2004
On Thu, 15 Jan 2004, Exibar wrote:
> But not 100% safe though... there are Linux viruses,
Such as ... ?
> what about all those e-mails that
> try to steal my SS# and CC#'s?
Never had one of those, because our anti-spam system blocks them.
> Education is the key, not the OS that you run or don't run.
That's not entirely true; the OS makes a huge difference.
> > A default install of a modern Linux distro includes firewalling rules
> > by default, and is fairly safe.
> there aren't any holes in that Linux distro?
There are, but none are exploitable remotely on our systems.
> there sure are, pleanty of them. Oh, so the Personal Firewall is
> protecting the user... interesting, aren't there Personal Firewalls
> for Windows OS's? Tons of them....
Linux has them built-in, and on modern distributions, turned on by default.
> > Because it is impossible to use Windows safely; the very design of the
> > operating system is flawed. This is not just my opinion; it's also that
> > of Bruce Schneier and many other people, some of whom lost their jobs
> it IS possible to use Windows safely, with Education of the user.
It's probably also possible to weld safely while standing knee-deep in
gasoline. You just have to be really careful.
Or you can start with a secure foundation and then add user-education.
> I don't buy that you block them ONLY to save disk space and stop
> annoying messages... don't buy it at all....
I don't care what you buy or don't buy, but it's the truth. We don't
run Windows, so we aren't susceptible to the viruses in the wild.
> > We have since 1999, and haven't had any problem. If you don't use
> Windows, > you don't need anti-virus software.
> Ignorance is bliss they say... If you honestly and truely believe
> what you say, more power to you. I honestly hope that nothing bad
> happens to your systems due to a virus outbreak that A/V software
> would have taken care of....
There is no A/V virus designed to protect Linux systems. There is
A/V software that runs on Linux, but it's designed to catch Windows
I've been in the computer security business for a while now; I think
I know what I'm doing.
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