FW: [Full-Disclosure] Re: Cisco's stolen code
ktabic at ktabic.co.uk
Fri May 28 10:25:17 BST 2004
On Thu, 2004-05-27 at 16:11, Maarten wrote:
> Note that if you came into possession of something but there is no evidence of
> a worm uploading that stuff, you'd probably still be screwed. Let's say they
> find you have all manuscipts of Stephen King in your possession. Would you
> be successful in argueing that you got that through spyware ? I think not.
That depends on where you are, and what a jury believes:
There are similar cases but with trojans found:
> Meanwhile, your point tends to get a little offtopic, if only for the fact
> that the OP asked for [a place to find] the code. Whatever happens after
> that, if he later receives the code 'by miracle' he will still be unable to
> convince a court he did not actively sollicit it. It's akin to asking around
> for poison: from then on you better pray your wife doesn't suddenly die.
> Cause if she does, you'd be prime suspect number One, with sugar on top...
Of course, evidence that the person found with the copyright stuff had
been asking for it should counteract any trojan defense.
Many sysadmins won't give you the time of day.
Thats what NTP is for.
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