[Full-disclosure] BANTOWN PRESENTS: Give me 0day or give me death
jlongs2 at uic.edu
Sun Dec 18 22:41:50 GMT 2005
Bantown is like FYAD if FYAD wasn't funny
On Dec 17, 2005, at 11:26 PM, Andrew A wrote:
> Because of my philosophical leanings, I have made the assumption
> that freedom of speech and expression is an inalienable right
> granted by nature's God. I have made the extension to this
> statement that the freedom to write code and execute your code is
> an extension to free speech. Fascists that may disagree with my
> statements may go ahead and skip this post.
> Now, let us say you have a machine connected to the Internet. It is
> impossible, by this computer's very nature, for it to do anything
> that is was not programmed to do. It takes in the data that it is
> given, processes it according to deterministic rules, and returns
> output that it could not possibly have deviated from. This process
> may be so complex that it appears to be stochastic, but it is
> nonetheless deterministic and we should not pretend it is anything
> but. This deterministic sequencing extends far beyond just your
> computer. If every element in a system is deterministic, then the
> whole system itself is deterministic. The entire Internet is a
> single, uninterrupted deterministic state machine.
> I present to you the Eleatic school of hacker ethics.
> The Internet is public property. No establishment has a right to
> own it, subvert it, subject it, or rule over it. It extends beyond
> race, nationality, religion, or geopolitical agreement. Now that we
> understand that the Internet is a single deterministic machine, we
> may approach this situation with logic and reason as opposed to
> knee-jerk reactionary idiocy. When connected to the Internet, your
> computer becomes a part of this deterministic machine. It is
> impossible for your computer to execute any code which it has not
> been programmed to execute. If your computer has been programmed to
> accept my arbitrary code, then there is no moral or ethical
> violation committed when I introduce my code to yours.
> If you download and execute my code, you have done so willingly.
> If your daemon executes my code after I introduce it in a manner
> that is innovative and unique, then your daemon has done exactly
> what it has been programmed to do.
> You don't want me to execute my code inside your code? Then keep
> your machine out of OUR deterministic state machine. Keep it on
> your own private network, so that someone will have to commit a
> real honest-to-God crime like breaking and entering to have access
> to it. The minute you connect it to a public network, it becomes
> connected to all of us through the 0 and 1.
> Whitehats will try to play games and act like they're the good
> guys. They will tell you that people who commit "computer crimes"
> are organized crime types who are out to empty your grandma's bank
> account. Their arguments are bullshit. No doubt that emptying
> someone's bank account is a serious crime, but we have real laws to
> punish this. The laws that we have made to punish "information
> crimes" are merely laws against thoughtcrime. It is impossible to
> commit crimes that extend solely in the wired.
> Take a look at what your governments are doing. The majority of
> whitehats are employed in the US, where they have a leader that
> willingly and openly defies the fourth amendment of their
> constitution. They have a corporate oligarchy where a select few
> families get to control ninety-nine percent of the public funds and
> purposefully impoverish the working and intellectual classes.
> Things are only marginally brighter in the rest of the first world.
> This is your idea of a utopia, the system that you want to
> perpetuate indefinitely? Do you really want the tyrants in this new
> Rome to reign a thousand years like the last one did? I sure don't,
> so stop preaching to me a bunch of bullshit about rule of law.
> Wake up.
> Stop working for these oligarchs that despise you. Band together,
> because at this point all that keeps the oligarchs in power is
> control over the ones and zeros. We have a power to change them for
> the better, a chance to make a lasting contribution to humanity.
> You can be a hero in the manner of Plato, of Socrates, of Pappus,
> Pascal, Parmenides and Zeno. You can change the world. All you need
> is to cast off the shackles that your masters have put on you!
> Be fearless.
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