joey.mengele at hushmail.com
Fri Jul 27 04:32:49 BST 2007
Oh Nick, you're so dreamy!
On Thu, 26 Jul 2007 19:20:27 -0400 Nick FitzGerald <nick at virus-
>> Just some hashed for the record.
>> CA eTrust (vulnpack):
>Cool -- thanks for that info...
>> Sergio Alvarez
>> Security, Research & Development
>> IT Security Consultant
>> email: shadown at gmail.com
>> This message is confidential. ...
>Yet you wilfully and knowingly posted it to a public-access
>list with tens of thousands of subscribers and that is well-known
>archived in many places across the net?
>You must be a prize moron...
>> ... It may also contain information that is
>> privileged or otherwise legally exempt from disclosure. ...
>...who can't afford a lawyer with half a clue, and will now never
>able to meaningfully defend any kind of accidental Email-borne
>"disclosure" of anything, as you've just admitted, on the public
>record, that you are too stupid to tell if something is privileged
>legally exempt from disclosure, THUS your only legally defensible
>position regarding such material in future is to ensure that you
>handle any of it, but as (by your own admission) you cannot tell
>that it is, you must cut yourself off from all information, a
>impossible task. In short, you've put yourself in the paradoxical
>position of being both knowingly and negligently responsible for
>and all "improper" disclosures of any and all "sensitive" material
>should ever happen across in future.
>Good luck ever getting hired again -- it would take a seriously
>employer to take on such a liability as you!
>> ... If you have
>> received it by mistake ...
>As you say it _is_ confidential and I have NO existing relevant
>"relationship" with you, I MUST have received this by mistake....
>> ... please let us know by e-mail ...
>...and I have a good faith belief that the mailing list software
>deliver this is to you by Email, so I've fulfilled that part of
>"deal". But what about the rest of the F-D subscribers? You'll
>_LOT_ of Email...
>> ...immediately ...
>Although I wrote this as quickly as I could and sent it
>thereafter, I didn't read your message till several hours after
>receiving it -- I hope that doesn't mean I didn't do it
>> ... and
>> delete it from your system; ...
>No. Why should I? Because _YOU_ are a moron and made a stupid
>In case it's not already nice and clear, I'll try to make it even
>clearer why this kind of "Email AUP" is _THOROUGHLY_ bogus.
>Imagine that I totally accidentally ran you over with my car BUT
>told you that the terms and conditions of my having run you over
>that you have to accept that I'm incompetent to judge whether I
>drive or not [that's the earlier stuff], that you are to forget it
>> ... should also not copy the message nor
>> disclose its contents to anyone. Many thanks.
>...and that you are never to tell anyone anything about the
>Do you think that would "protect" me in court if you actually had
>temerity to sue me for damages or some such?
>Would any lawyer with at least two good brain cells (yes -- a very
>breed) sensibly take _my_ case?
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