[Full-disclosure] spammer wades into US Presidential race
John C. A. Bambenek, CISSP
bambenek.infosec at gmail.com
Tue Oct 30 14:30:18 GMT 2007
Is this a political science list or an information security list? ;) I
mean, I'm all for a debate about the inherent war powers of the President,
or the War Powers Act in specific, but I'm not sure that's really the point
On 10/29/07, Leif Ericksen <lericksen at sbcglobal.net> wrote:
> Either way they are doing it to advance their own agenda.
> bottom line that is what their lack of action is all about. Their own
> Leif Ericksen
> On Mon, 2007-10-29 at 12:03 -0400, Valdis.Kletnieks at vt.edu wrote:
> > On Sun, 28 Oct 2007 12:35:04 CDT, Leif Ericksen said:
> > > Yes the president can send the troops to war.
> > > Congress is needed to declare war (the president can not do it)
> > > See the following:
> > > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Declaration_of_war_by_the_United_States
> > >
> > > After World War II, Congress voluntarily limited its use of the power
> > > declare war to issuing authorizations of force.
> > Right. And Congress wussed out and gave Bush basically a blank check
> > and hasn't gone back to change its mind. They gave him that
> > > Two weeks ago, during a hearing in the House International Relations
> > > committee,
> > >
> > > ****I attempted to force the committee to follow the Constitution and
> > > vote to declare war with Iraq.****
> > >
> > > COMMENT: If Ron Paul is the author of that Vote for me and I will end
> > > the war he is contradicting himself the the statement found in the
> > > I have provided and just outlined. Does that mean a lie? Dishonesty?
> > No, what he did, near as I can tell, was to tell Congress to actually
> > *serious*, and if they wanted a *war* to *declare* a war, rather than
> > mamby-pamby "authorization to use force". Congress proved not to have
> > the collective cojones to Do The Right Thing.
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