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<P><FONT SIZE=2>My apologies to all but I am unsubscribing due to the S/N ratio on this list.</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2>I do wish you all luck 'tho.</FONT>
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<P><FONT SIZE=2>-----Original Message-----</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2>From: morning_wood [<A HREF="mailto:se_cur_ity@hotmail.com">mailto:se_cur_ity@hotmail.com</A>]</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2>Sent: Friday, June 06, 2003 12:55 AM</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2>To: full-disclosure@lists.netsys.com</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2>Subject: [Full-Disclosure] List Direction and Future</FONT>
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<P><FONT SIZE=2> Now that we've all opened our mouths, lets get back up with the real 0day</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2>tech. Were 2 / 3 on real tech for today</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2>:P Lets battle on who post the hottest , mind blowing industry ripping 0sec</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2>Full Disclosure is known for. Now that</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2>the eyes of the world are on the core of real security lets be productive,</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2>consise, debatefull, and act like the mature</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2>men and women we are, above and beyond our titles, salaries, contracts, etc.</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2>I want what everyone wants here.</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2>Yes many of you call me n00b I do not want to go to a list that is off the</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2>beaten path, when we are all checking</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2>out the land along the way toward the common goal ( a secure, safe, fun,</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2>hobby ). Despite many comments etc,</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2>fact is I have a list of 30 of some of the top security experts that would</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2>prefer something as I have been suggesting.</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2>despite the fact that a select few of you who think im some bad spelling nut</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2>wannabe.</FONT>
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<P><FONT SIZE=2>DEBATE DISCLOSURE</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2>PROOF IDEAS</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2>RELEASE 0DAY</FONT>
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<P><FONT SIZE=2> We should not be afraid to say what we wish, only to be ridiculed because</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2>of something trivial.</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2>The wasted bandwith and our hours could have been better spent answering an</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2>aspiring students</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2>security questions because he is afraid of being FLAMED TO DEATH. ( he</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2>mailed me in private</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2>thank you )</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2>I want Full Disclosure, I want to stay, I dont want to be riddiculed and</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2>neither does anyone else.</FONT>
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<P><FONT SIZE=2>Thank You,</FONT>
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<P><FONT SIZE=2>Donnie Werner</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2><A HREF="http://exploitlabs.com" TARGET="_blank">http://exploitlabs.com</A></FONT>
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