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<p class=MsoNormal><b><font size=2 face=Tahoma><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:Tahoma;font-weight:bold'>From:</span></font></b><font size=2
face=Tahoma><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Tahoma'> Tim Groninga
[mailto:Tim@PCLugNut.com] <br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Sent:</span></b> Monday, November 03, 2003
1:11 PM<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>To:</span></b>
full-disclosure@lists.netsys.com<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Subject:</span></b> Re: [Full-Disclosure] Fw:
Red Hat Linux end-of-life update and transition planning</span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:
12.0pt'>Got the same f-you-gram today - already figuring out what distro to
fall back to but 99% of my experience has been on Redhat. No time to try them
all....so FreeBSD/SuSE/Mandrake - what are your opinions of each? Flexiblity,
ease of use, ease of migration, security etc. <br>
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/.Tim <br>
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On Mon, 2003-11-03 at 12:16, Joshua Levitsky wrote: </span></font></p>
<pre><i><font size=3 color="#737373" face="Courier New"><span style='font-size:
12.0pt;color:#737373;font-style:italic'>It's happened. Red Hat has officially said F@#$ YOU to us all.</span></font></i></pre><pre><font
size=2 face="Courier New"><span style='font-size:10.0pt'> </span></font></pre><pre><i><font
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color:#737373;font-style:italic'>Hey Red Hat.. I've got a migration plan for you... it's called BSD / SuSE /</span></font></i></pre><pre><i><font
size=3 color="#737373" face="Courier New"><span style='font-size:12.0pt;
color:#737373;font-style:italic'>Mandrake.</span></font></i></pre><pre><font
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size=3 color="#737373" face="Courier New"><span style='font-size:12.0pt;
color:#737373;font-style:italic'>-Josh</span></font></i></pre><pre><font
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color:#737373;font-style:italic'>--</span></font></i></pre><pre><i><font
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color:#737373;font-style:italic'>Joshua Levitsky, MCSE, CISSP</span></font></i></pre><pre><i><font
size=3 color="#737373" face="Courier New"><span style='font-size:12.0pt;
color:#737373;font-style:italic'>System Engineer</span></font></i></pre><pre><i><font
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color:#737373;font-style:italic'>Time Inc. Information Technology</span></font></i></pre><pre><i><font
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color:#737373;font-style:italic'>[5957 F27C 9C71 E9A7 274A 0447 C9B9 75A4 9B41 D4D1]</span></font></i></pre><pre><font
size=2 face="Courier New"><span style='font-size:10.0pt'> </span></font></pre><pre><font
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color:#737373;font-style:italic'>----- Original Message ----- </span></font></i></pre><pre><i><font
size=3 color="#737373" face="Courier New"><span style='font-size:12.0pt;
color:#737373;font-style:italic'>From: "Red Hat Network" <dev-null@rhn.redhat.com></span></font></i></pre><pre><i><font
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color:#737373;font-style:italic'>Sent: Monday, November 03, 2003 12:50 PM</span></font></i></pre><pre><i><font
size=3 color="#737373" face="Courier New"><span style='font-size:12.0pt;
color:#737373;font-style:italic'>Subject: Red Hat Linux end-of-life update and transition planning</span></font></i></pre><pre><font
size=2 face="Courier New"><span style='font-size:10.0pt'> </span></font></pre><pre><font
size=2 face="Courier New"><span style='font-size:10.0pt'> </span></font></pre><pre><i><font
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color:#737373;font-style:italic'>></span></font></i> </pre><pre><i><font
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color:#737373;font-style:italic'>> Dear jlevitsk,</span></font></i></pre><pre><i><font
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color:#737373;font-style:italic'>></span></font></i> </pre><pre><i><font
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color:#737373;font-style:italic'>> Thank you for being a Red Hat Network customer.</span></font></i></pre><pre><i><font
size=3 color="#737373" face="Courier New"><span style='font-size:12.0pt;
color:#737373;font-style:italic'>></span></font></i> </pre><pre><i><font
size=3 color="#737373" face="Courier New"><span style='font-size:12.0pt;
color:#737373;font-style:italic'>> This e-mail provides you with important information about the upcoming</span></font></i></pre><pre><i><font
size=3 color="#737373" face="Courier New"><span style='font-size:12.0pt;
color:#737373;font-style:italic'>> discontinuation of Red Hat Linux, and resources to assist you with your</span></font></i></pre><pre><i><font
size=3 color="#737373" face="Courier New"><span style='font-size:12.0pt;
color:#737373;font-style:italic'>> migration to another Red Hat solution.</span></font></i></pre><pre><i><font
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color:#737373;font-style:italic'>></span></font></i> </pre><pre><i><font
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color:#737373;font-style:italic'>> As previously communicated, Red Hat will discontinue maintenance and</span></font></i></pre><pre><i><font
size=3 color="#737373" face="Courier New"><span style='font-size:12.0pt;
color:#737373;font-style:italic'>> errata support for Red Hat Linux 7.1, 7.2, 7.3 and 8.0 as of December</span></font></i></pre><pre><i><font
size=3 color="#737373" face="Courier New"><span style='font-size:12.0pt;
color:#737373;font-style:italic'>> 31, 2003. Red Hat will discontinue maintenance and errata support for</span></font></i></pre><pre><i><font
size=3 color="#737373" face="Courier New"><span style='font-size:12.0pt;
color:#737373;font-style:italic'>> Red Hat Linux 9 as of April 30, 2004. Red Hat does not plan to release</span></font></i></pre><pre><i><font
size=3 color="#737373" face="Courier New"><span style='font-size:12.0pt;
color:#737373;font-style:italic'>> another product in the Red Hat Linux line.</span></font></i></pre><pre><i><font
size=3 color="#737373" face="Courier New"><span style='font-size:12.0pt;
color:#737373;font-style:italic'>></span></font></i> </pre><pre><i><font
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color:#737373;font-style:italic'>> With the recent announcement of Red Hat Enterprise Linux v.3, you'll</span></font></i></pre><pre><i><font size=3 color="#737373"
face="Courier New"><span style='font-size:12.0pt;color:#737373;font-style:italic'>> find migrating to Enterprise Linux appealing. We understand</span></font></i></pre><pre><i><font size=3
color="#737373" face="Courier New"><span style='font-size:12.0pt;color:#737373;
font-style:italic'>> that transitioning to another Red Hat solution requires careful planning</span></font></i></pre><pre><i><font
size=3 color="#737373" face="Courier New"><span style='font-size:12.0pt;
color:#737373;font-style:italic'>> and implementation. We have created a migration plan for Red Hat Network</span></font></i></pre><pre><i><font
size=3 color="#737373" face="Courier New"><span style='font-size:12.0pt;
color:#737373;font-style:italic'>> customers to help make the transition as simple and seamless as</span></font></i></pre><pre><i><font
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color:#737373;font-style:italic'>> possible. Details:</span></font></i></pre><pre><i><font
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color:#737373;font-style:italic'>></span></font></i> </pre><pre><i><font
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color:#737373;font-style:italic'>> ****************</span></font></i></pre><pre><i><font
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color:#737373;font-style:italic'>> If you purchase Red Hat Enterprise Linux WS or ES Basic before February</span></font></i></pre><pre><i><font
size=3 color="#737373" face="Courier New"><span style='font-size:12.0pt;
color:#737373;font-style:italic'>> 28, 2004, you will receive 50% off the price for two years.[*] (That's two</span></font></i></pre><pre><i><font
size=3 color="#737373" face="Courier New"><span style='font-size:12.0pt;
color:#737373;font-style:italic'>> years for the price of one.)</span></font></i></pre><pre><i><font
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color:#737373;font-style:italic'>></span></font></i> </pre><pre><i><font
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color:#737373;font-style:italic'>> ****************</span></font></i></pre><pre><i><font
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color:#737373;font-style:italic'>> In addition, we have created a Red Hat Linux Migration Resource Center</span></font></i></pre><pre><i><font size=3
color="#737373" face="Courier New"><span style='font-size:12.0pt;color:#737373;
font-style:italic'>> to address your migration planning and other questions, such as:</span></font></i></pre><pre><i><font
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color:#737373;font-style:italic'>></span></font></i> </pre><pre><i><font
size=3 color="#737373" face="Courier New"><span style='font-size:12.0pt;
color:#737373;font-style:italic'>> * What are best practices for implementing the migration to Red Hat</span></font></i></pre><pre><i><font
size=3 color="#737373" face="Courier New"><span style='font-size:12.0pt;
color:#737373;font-style:italic'>> Enterprise Linux?</span></font></i></pre><pre><i><font
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color:#737373;font-style:italic'>></span></font></i> </pre><pre><i><font
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color:#737373;font-style:italic'>> * Are there other migration alternatives?</span></font></i></pre><pre><i><font
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color:#737373;font-style:italic'>></span></font></i> </pre><pre><i><font
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color:#737373;font-style:italic'>> * How do I purchase Red Hat Enterprise Linux WS or ES Basic at the price</span></font></i></pre><pre><i><font size=3
color="#737373" face="Courier New"><span style='font-size:12.0pt;color:#737373;
font-style:italic'>> above?</span></font></i></pre><pre><i><font size=3
color="#737373" face="Courier New"><span style='font-size:12.0pt;color:#737373;
font-style:italic'>></span></font></i> </pre><pre><i><font size=3
color="#737373" face="Courier New"><span style='font-size:12.0pt;color:#737373;
font-style:italic'>> * What if my paid subscription to RHN extends past April 30, 2004?</span></font></i></pre><pre><i><font
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color:#737373;font-style:italic'>></span></font></i> </pre><pre><i><font
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color:#737373;font-style:italic'>> ****************</span></font></i></pre><pre><i><font
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color:#737373;font-style:italic'>></span></font></i> </pre><pre><i><font
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color:#737373;font-style:italic'>> Find out more about your migration options with product comparisons,</span></font></i></pre><pre><i><font
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color:#737373;font-style:italic'>> whitepapers and documentation at the Red Hat Linux Migration Resource</span></font></i></pre><pre><i><font
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color:#737373;font-style:italic'>> Center:</span></font></i></pre><pre><i><font
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color:#737373;font-style:italic'>></span></font></i> </pre><pre><i><font
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color:#737373;font-style:italic'>> http://www.redhat.com/solutions/migration/rhl/rhn</span></font></i></pre><pre><i><font
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color:#737373;font-style:italic'>></span></font></i> </pre><pre><i><font
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color:#737373;font-style:italic'>></span></font></i> </pre><pre><i><font
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color:#737373;font-style:italic'>> Or read the FAQ written especially for Red Hat Network customers:</span></font></i></pre><pre><i><font
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color:#737373;font-style:italic'>></span></font></i> </pre><pre><i><font
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color:#737373;font-style:italic'>> https://rhn.redhat.com/help/rhlmigrationfaq/</span></font></i></pre><pre><i><font
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color:#737373;font-style:italic'>></span></font></i> </pre><pre><i><font
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color:#737373;font-style:italic'>> Sincerely,</span></font></i></pre><pre><i><font
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color:#737373;font-style:italic'>></span></font></i> </pre><pre><i><font
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color:#737373;font-style:italic'>> Red Hat, Inc.</span></font></i></pre><pre><i><font
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color:#737373;font-style:italic'>></span></font></i> </pre><pre><i><font
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color:#737373;font-style:italic'>> [*] Limit 10 units. Higher volume purchase inquiries should contact a</span></font></i></pre><pre><i><font
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color:#737373;font-style:italic'>> regional Red Hat sales representative. Contact numbers available at</span></font></i></pre><pre><i><font
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color:#737373;font-style:italic'>> http://www.redhat.com/solutions/migration/rhl/rhn</span></font></i></pre><pre><i><font
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color:#737373;font-style:italic'>> --the Red Hat Network Team</span></font></i></pre><pre><i><font
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