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Dear technically challenged netdev,</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
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<DIV><SPAN class=076565302-01042006><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2>1) 'Is
that the same as...' - ummm... you probably IMAGINED a different
email to which you replied to</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=076565302-01042006></SPAN><SPAN class=076565302-01042006><FONT
face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2>2) The address is legit, it isn't 'hacked'. It
has a story why I use it here, but it's not like anybody
cares.</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=076565302-01042006><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2>3) <A
href="http://www.ietf.org/rfc/rfc0821.txt">http://www.ietf.org/rfc/rfc0821.txt</A> -
the world is bigger than gmail believe it or not.</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=076565302-01042006></SPAN><SPAN class=076565302-01042006><FONT
face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2>4) If I sent the email from gmail, it would show
in the headers.</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=076565302-01042006><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2>5) If
it was a spoofed email only used for subscription, the FD posts
sent to it would not get back to me</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=076565302-01042006><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff
size=2>6) The email in question wasn't even an FD comment, it went
straight to your inbox to avoid bugging others who still don't have you filtered
(like me, until this very email). What did you do? Post it right back to the
list. Nice.</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
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<DIV><SPAN class=076565302-01042006><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2>
Sure, everybody can filter, so can I. The thing is, i never NEEDED to, because
there hasn't been anybody dropping such ignorance in my mailbox so often.
</FONT></SPAN><SPAN class=076565302-01042006><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff
size=2><SPAN class=076565302-01042006><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2>I
was hoping that you would either turn normal or keep your word and leave the
list.</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
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<DIV><SPAN class=076565302-01042006><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2>Since
the trolling just goes on, it's grep -v for you, especially after
this stupid bullcrap you made up and decided to share with the probably
not-so-interested list members. I responded this time because 1) it was a
personal attack based on nothing, and 2) because it's my last email that has the
word netdev in it. (sent or received ;]) - and i can keep my word, unlike 'some
people'.</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
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<DIV><SPAN class=076565302-01042006><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff
size=2>php0t</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
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<DIV class=OutlookMessageHeader lang=en-us dir=ltr align=left><FONT
face=Tahoma size=2>-----Original Message-----<BR><B>From:</B> n3td3v
[mailto:n3td3v@gmail.com] <BR><B>Sent:</B> Friday, March 31, 2006 11:12
PM<BR><B>To:</B> php0t; full-disclosure@lists.grok.org.uk<BR><B>Subject:</B>
Re: [Full-disclosure] Re: RSA HAVE CRACKED PHISHING, NO
SERIOUSLY<BR><BR></FONT></DIV>Is that the same as hacking someones "domain",
accepting the Gmail confirmation to say you're allowed to send from a Gmail
account with that hacked domain, then delete all forensic logs from the hacked
domain and then go back to your Gmail account, where you can continue to send
your inflamed FD comments from as <A
href="mailto:very@hackeddomain.com">very@hackeddomain.com</A>.
Figures.<BR><BR>
<DIV><SPAN class=gmail_quote>On 3/31/06, <B class=gmail_sendername>php0t</B>
<<A href="mailto:very@unprivate.com">very@unprivate.com</A>>
wrote:</SPAN>
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<DIV><SPAN><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2>If you kept your word (and
didn't post my emails back to the list), it'd be better.
:)</FONT></SPAN></DIV></DIV>
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<DIV lang=en-us dir=ltr align=left><FONT face=Tahoma size=2>-----Original
Message-----<BR><B>From:</B> n3td3v [mailto:<A
onclick="return top.js.OpenExtLink(window,event,this)"
href="mailto:n3td3v@gmail.com" target=_blank> n3td3v@gmail.com</A>]
<BR><B>Sent:</B> Friday, March 31, 2006 10:47 PM<BR><B>To:</B> php0t; <A
onclick="return top.js.OpenExtLink(window,event,this)"
href="mailto:full-disclosure@lists.grok.org.uk"
target=_blank>full-disclosure@lists.grok.org.uk </A><BR><B>Subject:</B>
Re: [Full-disclosure] Re: RSA HAVE CRACKED PHISHING, NO
SERIOUSLY<BR><BR></FONT></DIV>Why don't you just "filter" me like "the
experts" have told you to do? Or haven't you worked out the technical
background architecture of Outlook and Thunderbird yet? Figures. <BR><BR>
<DIV><SPAN class=gmail_quote>On 3/31/06, <B
class=gmail_sendername>php0t</B> <<A
onclick="return top.js.OpenExtLink(window,event,this)"
href="mailto:very@unprivate.com" target=_blank>very@unprivate.com</A>>
wrote: </SPAN>
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<DIV><SPAN><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2>For real, please keep
your word.</FONT></SPAN></DIV></DIV>
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<DIV lang=en-us dir=ltr align=left><FONT face=Tahoma
size=2>-----Original Message-----<BR><B>From:</B> <A
onclick="return top.js.OpenExtLink(window,event,this)"
href="mailto:full-disclosure-bounces@lists.grok.org.uk"
target=_blank>full-disclosure-bounces@lists.grok.org.uk</A> [mailto:<A
onclick="return top.js.OpenExtLink(window,event,this)"
href="mailto:full-disclosure-bounces@lists.grok.org.uk"
target=_blank>full-disclosure-bounces@lists.grok.org.uk </A>] <B>On
Behalf Of </B>n3td3v<BR><B>Sent:</B> Friday, March 31, 2006 9:55
PM<BR><B>To:</B> <A
onclick="return top.js.OpenExtLink(window,event,this)"
href="mailto:full-disclosure@lists.grok.org.uk"
target=_blank>full-disclosure@lists.grok.org.uk
</A><BR><B>Subject:</B> [Full-disclosure] Re: RSA HAVE CRACKED
PHISHING, NO SERIOUSLY<BR><BR></FONT></DIV>This is funny as well, <A
onclick="return top.js.OpenExtLink(window,event,this)"
href="http://news.com.com/5208-1029-0.html?forumID=1&threadID=15591&messageID=131539&start=-1&reply=true"
target=_blank>http://news.com.com/5208-1029-0.html?forumID=1&threadID=15591&messageID=131539&start=-1&reply=true
</A> I almost choked on my big mac after reading this one, the
guy thinks if you take down a site, the phisher's script doesn't
deploy another premade site straight away on another host. lol, maybe
the RSA have miscalculated the pre plainning and programming of a
phishing attack backend before its carried out. I guess they just
thought phishing was down to "dumb criminals". <BR><BR>
<DIV><SPAN class=gmail_quote>On 3/31/06, <B
class=gmail_sendername>n3td3v</B> <<A
onclick="return top.js.OpenExtLink(window,event,this)"
href="mailto:n3td3v@gmail.com" target=_blank>n3td3v@gmail.com</A>>
wrote: </SPAN>
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<DIV>Check out this article, and I really did spill my hard earned
Starbucks right down my front when I looked at this article:</DIV>
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href="http://news.com.com/5208-1029-0.html?forumID=1&threadID=15591&messageID=131433&start=-1"
target=_blank>http://news.com.com/5208-1029-0.html?forumID=1&threadID=15591&messageID=131433&start=-1
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