<div>Hey n3td3v,</div>
<div>Could you please enclose links that take us to the right places before quoting the statements. Every time you quote something, but no evidences are added to it.</div>
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<div>-Your Well Wisher<br><br> </div>
<div><span class="gmail_quote">On 7/2/06, <b class="gmail_sendername">Phil Frederick</b> <<a href="mailto:flosofl@gmail.com">flosofl@gmail.com</a>> wrote:</span>
<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="PADDING-LEFT: 1ex; MARGIN: 0px 0px 0px 0.8ex; BORDER-LEFT: #ccc 1px solid">I think your tinfoil hat is loose. Thanks for the laugh.<br><br>On 7/1/06, n3td3v <<a href="mailto:xploitable@gmail.com">
xploitable@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br>> On 7/1/06, <a href="mailto:Valdis.Kletnieks@vt.edu">Valdis.Kletnieks@vt.edu</a> <<a href="mailto:Valdis.Kletnieks@vt.edu">Valdis.Kletnieks@vt.edu</a>> wrote:<br>> > On Fri, 30 Jun 2006 23:30:08 BST, n3td3v said:
<br>> > > They replace a website with the USSS logo., like what happened in the<br>> > > case of the shadow crew.<br>> ><br>> > You got any proof the USSS actually did it, and isn't being joe-jobbed here?
<br>> ><br>> > For starters, logs showing where/how the logo was uploaded, and other<br>> > evidence linking that IP address to the USSS....<br>><br>> It was widely reported that the USSS had done it. The replacement logo
<br>> claiming the site had been taken over by the USSS site came at the<br>> same time the USSS _had_ taken control of the website. Infact, the<br>> site was in the control of the USSS long before it was announced to
<br>> the media. The USSS decided to be typical Americans and claim victory<br>> in true American patriotic style. The gun hoe Americans who have _led_<br>> to the killings of over 38,000 civilians by invading Iraq, which can
<br>> only be described by me as the mother of all terrorist attacks. Bin<br>> Laden only bombed two towers in one city in the U.S, where as America<br>> has bombed an entire nation leading to a complete blood bath of
<br>> innocent women children and men. There is no come back, Bin Laden and<br>> company cannot equal that kind of scale of attack, America has carried<br>> out the ultimate terrorist attack, and I for one am pissed about it.
<br>> The last thing people outside of the American smoke screen and<br>> propaganda bubble need is the USSS going around replacing criminal web<br>> site home pages with, in so many words "Owned by the United States
<br>> Secret Service", the nearest you can come to mimicing a script kid<br>> like defacement. The mentality is the same, the 'mind think' is the<br>> same, and theres very little diference between the two. It doesn't
<br>> matter if a box has been accessed legally or illegally, there is no<br>> excuse for patriotic victory against any one, group or nation. By all<br>> means close a web site down, secure the website, but don't replace the
<br>> home page of a criminal web site for any reason, with any type of<br>> acknowledgement that a country or government organization has taken<br>> control of a web site in true script kid "we own your web site" style.
<br>> It sends out the wrong message of conduct on the internet to those who<br>> do have a vested interest in accessing web sites and changing a home<br>> page with a political message, which the USSS replacement page indeed
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