<HTML><BODY style="word-wrap: break-word; -khtml-nbsp-mode: space; -khtml-line-break: after-white-space; ">Microsoft points are directly tied to $$$ <DIV><BR class="khtml-block-placeholder"></DIV><DIV>2000 points is about the equivalent of $25 dollars. </DIV><DIV><BR class="khtml-block-placeholder"></DIV><DIV>Zune Market Place and Xbox live share the same system for points / dollars. </DIV><DIV>-KF </DIV><DIV><BR><DIV><DIV>On Mar 17, 2007, at 8:49 PM, Peter Dawson wrote:</DIV><BR class="Apple-interchange-newline"><BLOCKQUOTE type="cite">why ?? <BR><BR>Is there not a secondary layer of economics for points ?? WoW and SL has virtual $$ being bartered into real world value... <BR><BR><DIV><SPAN class="gmail_quote">On 3/17/07, <B class="gmail_sendername">Jason Miller </B> <<A href="mailto:jammer128@gmail.com">jammer128@gmail.com</A>> wrote:</SPAN><BLOCKQUOTE class="gmail_quote" style="border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;">I'm sorry but I find this funny actually. :-P Seems Microsoft has a weakness. <BR><BR>On 3/17/07, Kevin Finisterre (lists) <<A href="mailto:kf_lists@digitalmunition.com">kf_lists@digitalmunition.com</A>> wrote:<BR>> There have been rumor going around that <A href="http://Bungie.net">Bungie.net </A> was hacked and<BR>> that a portion of Xbox live has been taken over because of it. Some<BR>> folks are having their Microsoft points stolen and or points<BR>> purchased via their stolen gamer tag.<BR>><BR> > I just got off the phone with a Microsoft Tech for Xbox live that has<BR>> confirmed this to with me and they have stated that accounts are<BR>> being stolen and that "Hackers have control of Xbox live and there is <BR>> nothing we can do about it"<BR>><BR>> If anyone else has experienced their Xbox live account info being<BR>> stolen let me know. I am trying to archive as much info on this as<BR>> possible. During the conversations I have had with Xbox live support <BR>> I would certainly say that Microsoft staff is more than negligent in<BR>> dealing with this issue especially with regard to the potential theft<BR>> of personal information.<BR>><BR>> -KF<BR>><BR> > _______________________________________________<BR>> Full-Disclosure - We believe in it.<BR>> Charter: <A href="http://lists.grok.org.uk/full-disclosure-charter.html">http://lists.grok.org.uk/full-disclosure-charter.html </A><BR>> Hosted and sponsored by Secunia - <A href="http://secunia.com/">http://secunia.com/</A><BR>><BR><BR>_______________________________________________<BR>Full-Disclosure - We believe in it.<BR>Charter: <A href="http://lists.grok.org.uk/full-disclosure-charter.html"> http://lists.grok.org.uk/full-disclosure-charter.html</A><BR>Hosted and sponsored by Secunia - <A href="http://secunia.com/">http://secunia.com/</A><BR></BLOCKQUOTE></DIV><BR><BR><DIV style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; ">_______________________________________________</DIV><DIV style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; ">Full-Disclosure - We believe in it.</DIV><DIV style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; ">Charter: <A href="http://lists.grok.org.uk/full-disclosure-charter.html">http://lists.grok.org.uk/full-disclosure-charter.html</A></DIV><DIV style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; ">Hosted and sponsored by Secunia - <A href="http://secunia.com">http://secunia.com</A>/</DIV> </BLOCKQUOTE></DIV><BR></DIV></BODY></HTML>