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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>I disagree, don&#8217;t block access to the port. Monitor and capture
it.<o:p></o:p></span></p>

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color:#1F497D'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p>

<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>Joel&#8217;s First rule of forensics: Don&#8217;t just do something, stand
there!<o:p></o:p></span></p>

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color:#1F497D'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p>

<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>Watch it, monitor it. If it is a crafty backdoor, there are
dozens of others to enable bad guys to regain entry.<o:p></o:p></span></p>

<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>Blocking lets the hacker know you might be on to them.&nbsp; IF it is
legit, then it could cause a problem.<o:p></o:p></span></p>

<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>Telnet to the port, see what it says on connection; run fport or
sysinternals utilities on the box to see the stack the program uses.<o:p></o:p></span></p>

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color:#1F497D'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p>

<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>-joel<o:p></o:p></span></p>

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color:#1F497D'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p>

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<p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>From:</span></b><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'> full-disclosure-bounces@lists.grok.org.uk
[mailto:full-disclosure-bounces@lists.grok.org.uk] <b>On Behalf Of </b>Fabrizio<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Friday, September 28, 2007 1:31 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> Full-Disclosure<br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [Full-disclosure] .NET REMOTING on port 31337<o:p></o:p></span></p>

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<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:12.0pt'>If you think it's that
critical, (i think it's that critical) start by blocking any connections from
anywhere to that machine/port. See if anyone complains. Check any old firewall
logs for that port while you're at it. Then continue your investigation!! <br>
<br>
Fabrizio<o:p></o:p></p>

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<p class=MsoNormal><span class=gmailquote>On 9/28/07, <b>Simon Smith</b> &lt;<a
href="mailto:simon@snosoft.com">simon@snosoft.com</a>&gt; wrote:</span><o:p></o:p></p>

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Got output... and it was... no idea what it was... can't paste it due to<br>
confidentiality though.<br>
<br>
Fabrizio wrote:<br>
&gt; .NET Remoting is &quot;a generic system for different applications to use
to <br>
&gt; communicate with one another.&quot; It's part of the .NET framework,<br>
&gt; obviously. (not trying to be a smart ass)<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt; I'm gonna take a wild guess and say it's not a good thing......<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt; Connect to it, and see if you get any output, if you haven't already<br>
&gt; done so.<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt; Fabrizio<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt; On 9/28/07, * Simon Smith* &lt;<a href="mailto:simon@snosoft.com">
simon@snosoft.com</a><br>
&gt; &lt;mailto:<a href="mailto:simon@snosoft.com">simon@snosoft.com</a>&gt;&gt;
wrote:<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt; Has anyone ever heard of .NET REMOTING running on port 31337? If so,<br>
&gt; have you ever seen it &quot;legitimate&quot;? <br>
&gt;<br>
&gt;<br>
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