Is this a political science list or an information security list? ;) I mean, I'm all for a debate about the inherent war powers of the President, or the War Powers Act in specific, but I'm not sure that's really the point here. ;)
<br><br><div><span class="gmail_quote">On 10/29/07, <b class="gmail_sendername">Leif Ericksen</b> <<a href="mailto:lericksen@sbcglobal.net">lericksen@sbcglobal.net</a>> wrote:</span><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;">
Either way they are doing it to advance their own agenda.<br><br>bottom line that is what their lack of action is all about. Their own<br>agenda.<br><br><br>--<br>Leif Ericksen<br>On Mon, 2007-10-29 at 12:03 -0400, <a href="mailto:Valdis.Kletnieks@vt.edu">
Valdis.Kletnieks@vt.edu</a> wrote:<br>> On Sun, 28 Oct 2007 12:35:04 CDT, Leif Ericksen said:<br>><br>> > Yes the president can send the troops to war.<br>> > Congress is needed to declare war (the president can not do it)
<br>> > See the following:<br>> > <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Declaration_of_war_by_the_United_States">http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Declaration_of_war_by_the_United_States</a><br>> ><br>> > After World War II, Congress voluntarily limited its use of the power to
<br>> > declare war to issuing authorizations of force.<br>><br>> Right. And Congress wussed out and gave Bush basically a blank check<br>> and hasn't gone back to change its mind. They gave him that authorization.
<br>><br>> > Two weeks ago, during a hearing in the House International Relations<br>> > committee,<br>> ><br>> > ****I attempted to force the committee to follow the Constitution and<br>> > vote to declare war with Iraq.****
<br>> ><br>> > COMMENT: If Ron Paul is the author of that Vote for me and I will end<br>> > the war he is contradicting himself the the statement found in the link<br>> > I have provided and just outlined. Does that mean a lie? Dishonesty?
<br>><br>> No, what he did, near as I can tell, was to tell Congress to actually get<br>> *serious*, and if they wanted a *war* to *declare* a war, rather than some<br>> mamby-pamby "authorization to use force". Congress proved not to have
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