<div>I think "security underground" implies unemployed.<br> </div>
<div><span class="gmail_quote">On 3/13/08, <b class="gmail_sendername">atlas</b> <<a href="mailto:atlas@r4780y.com">atlas@r4780y.com</a>> wrote:</span>
<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="PADDING-LEFT: 1ex; MARGIN: 0px 0px 0px 0.8ex; BORDER-LEFT: #ccc 1px solid">> Date: Thu, 13 Mar 2008 02:44:15 +0000<br>> From: "worried security" <<a href="mailto:worriedsecurity@googlemail.com">worriedsecurity@googlemail.com</a>><br>
> ><br>> > <a href="http://www.offensive-security.com/ilt.php">http://www.offensive-security.com/ilt.php</a><br>> ><br>><br>> Fuck mutts / backtrack / offensive-security and the remote-exploit IRC<br>
> channel, they turned their back on the underground to make money.<br>><br>> What a dick he is for blantantly making money out of these courses to<br>> line his own pocket, what happened to good old teaching people things<br>
> for the pure enthusiasm of computer security?<br>><br>> No, this guy even put banners for this on Securityfocus frontpage, he<br>> is truely in it for the money and is up there with the all time great<br>> profiteers of Symantec now and doesn't actually care about the<br>
> underground.<br>><br>> I'm as underground a guy and supporter as you get 9 years in the<br>> security underground and would never turn my back on it just to line<br>> my pocket, so i can buy extra sweeties next time i'm down the candy<br>
> shop.<br><br>Did you just say "security underground"? What does that even *mean*!?<br>Hacking underground... yes, I get that... and it actually means something<br>(although likely less and commonly thought).<br>
<br>And so what if the guy makes some cash from training? Getting paid to support<br>the habit is generally accepted as a good thing. I'm glad you feel strongly<br>about making help and discussion available for free. Many good things have<br>
come from such ideals... but you sound like RMS of the "underground security"<br>scene.<br><br></trolling><br>--<br>LFXXKIDDMFXCO5BAO5QWS5BAMZXXEIDJNZZXA2LSMF2GS33OFYQFS33VEBUGC5TFEB2G6IDHN4QGCZTUMVZCA2LUEB3WS5DIEBQSAY3MOVRC4CQ=<br>
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