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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=1 color=navy face=Arial><span lang=EN-US
style='font-size:9.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>Yep, that’s the voice I’m
waiting for ; )<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=MsoNormal><font size=1 color=navy face=Arial><span lang=EN-US
style='font-size:9.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>Do all analyzing things
yourself firstly!<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

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<p class=MsoNormal><b><font size=2 face=Tahoma><span lang=EN-US
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Tahoma;font-weight:bold'>From:</span></font></b><font
size=2 face=Tahoma><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Tahoma'>
full-disclosure-bounces@lists.grok.org.uk
[mailto:full-disclosure-bounces@lists.grok.org.uk] <b><span style='font-weight:
bold'>On Behalf Of </span></b>taneja.security@gmail.com<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Sent:</span></b> Friday, March 28, 2008 6:29
AM<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>To:</span></b>
full-disclosure@lists.grok.org.uk<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Cc:</span></b> websecurity@webappsec.org<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Subject:</span></b> [Full-disclosure]Re:
[Full-disclosure] </span></font><font size=2><span style='font-size:10.0pt'>答复</span></font><font
size=2 face=Tahoma><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Tahoma'>:
</span></font><font size=2><span style='font-size:10.0pt'>答复</span></font><font
size=2 face=Tahoma><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Tahoma'>:
[Full-disclosure] The reason why &quot;Pangolin is backdoor&quot;</span></font><span
lang=EN-US><o:p></o:p></span></p>

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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 face=宋体><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:12.0pt'>Why
to believe on Antivirus !!! check it out urself ......No malicious activity<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 face=宋体><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:12.0pt'>no
bot, no keylogger, plain code to .....:)<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 face=宋体><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:12.0pt'>Then
what is the meaning of BACKDOORED??<br>
<br>
&nbsp;<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

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<p class=MsoNormal><span class=gmailquote><font size=3 face=宋体><span
lang=EN-US style='font-size:12.0pt'>On <st1:chsdate IsROCDate="False"
IsLunarDate="False" Day="27" Month="3" Year="2008" w:st="on">3/27/08</st1:chsdate>,
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>zwell.nosec</span></b> &lt;<a
href="mailto:zwell.nosec@gmail.com">zwell.nosec@gmail.com</a>&gt; wrote:</span></font></span><span
lang=EN-US> <o:p></o:p></span></p>

<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 face=宋体><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:12.0pt'>Oh,
Really?<br>
So you can compress using UPX again, then upload to virustotal.<br>
Check it out, ;)<br>
Thanks<br>
<br>
-----</span>邮件原件<span lang=EN-US>-----<br>
</span>发件人<span lang=EN-US>: Razi Shaban [mailto:<a
href="mailto:razishaban@gmail.com">razishaban@gmail.com</a>]<br>
</span>发送时间<span lang=EN-US>: <st1:chsdate IsROCDate="False" IsLunarDate="False"
Day="27" Month="3" Year="2008" w:st="on">2008<span lang=EN-US><span lang=EN-US>年3</span></span><span
 lang=EN-US><span lang=EN-US>月27</span></span><span lang=EN-US><span
 lang=EN-US>日</span></span></st1:chsdate> 14:54<br>
</span>收件人<span lang=EN-US>: zwell.nosec<br>
</span>抄送<span lang=EN-US>: <a href="mailto:full-disclosure@lists.grok.org.uk">full-disclosure@lists.grok.org.uk</a>;
<a href="mailto:websecurity@webappsec.org">websecurity@webappsec.org</a><br>
</span>主题<span lang=EN-US>: Re: </span>答复<span lang=EN-US>: [Full-disclosure]
The reason why &quot;Pangolin is backdoor&quot;<br>
<br>
I have enough experience with UPX to know that it's a fairly good packer.<br>
If you placed the backdoor into the code yourself, I'm not surprised<br>
that the packed version is UD by most virus-scanner.<br>
<br>
Doesn't make it any less of a backdoor.<br>
<br>
--<br>
Razi<br>
<br>
<br>
<br>
On <st1:chsdate IsROCDate="False" IsLunarDate="False" Day="27" Month="3"
Year="2008" w:st="on">3/27/08</st1:chsdate>, zwell.nosec &lt;<a
href="mailto:zwell.nosec@gmail.com">zwell.nosec@gmail.com</a>&gt; wrote:<br>
&gt; Just do it yourself pls, using the &quot;backdoored&quot; pangolin.exe you
think and<br>
&gt;&nbsp;&nbsp;decompress it, then upload to virustotal, I did not change any
bits ;)<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt;&nbsp;&nbsp;-----</span>邮件原件<span lang=EN-US>-----<br>
&gt;&nbsp;&nbsp;</span>发件人<span lang=EN-US>: Razi Shaban [mailto:<a
href="mailto:razishaban@gmail.com">razishaban@gmail.com</a>]<br>
&gt;&nbsp;&nbsp;</span>发送时间<span lang=EN-US>: <st1:chsdate IsROCDate="False"
IsLunarDate="False" Day="27" Month="3" Year="2008" w:st="on">2008<span
 lang=EN-US><span lang=EN-US>年3</span></span><span lang=EN-US><span lang=EN-US>月27</span></span><span
 lang=EN-US><span lang=EN-US>日</span></span></st1:chsdate> 14:32<br>
&gt;&nbsp;&nbsp;</span>收件人<span lang=EN-US>: zwell.nosec<br>
&gt;&nbsp;&nbsp;</span>抄送<span lang=EN-US>: <a
href="mailto:full-disclosure@lists.grok.org.uk">full-disclosure@lists.grok.org.uk</a>;
<a href="mailto:websecurity@webappsec.org">websecurity@webappsec.org</a><br>
&gt;&nbsp;&nbsp;</span>主题<span lang=EN-US>: Re: [Full-disclosure] The reason
why &quot;Pangolin is backdoor&quot;<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt;&nbsp;&nbsp;Wow! Cryptors prevent viruses from being detected?<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt;&nbsp;&nbsp;Who would have thought!<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt;&nbsp;&nbsp;--<br>
&gt;&nbsp;&nbsp;Razi<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt;&nbsp;&nbsp;On 3/27/08, zwell.nosec &lt;<a
href="mailto:zwell.nosec@gmail.com">zwell.nosec@gmail.com</a>&gt; wrote:<br>
&gt;&nbsp;&nbsp;&gt; Pangolin really is a backdoor? Let's do this step to make
sure:<br>
&gt;&nbsp;&nbsp;&gt;&nbsp;&nbsp;1.Download UPX from <a href="http://upx.sf.net">upx.sf.net</a><br>
&gt;&nbsp;&nbsp;&gt;&nbsp;&nbsp;2.In cmd shell, run &quot;upx.exe -d
pangolin.exe&quot;<br>
&gt;&nbsp;&nbsp;&gt;&nbsp;&nbsp;3.Upload the new pangolin.exe(actually the
origin) to virustotal<br>
&gt;&nbsp;&nbsp;&gt;&nbsp;&nbsp;4.Check the result again<br>
&gt;&nbsp;&nbsp;&gt;&nbsp;&nbsp;I do these, and the result is:<br>
&gt;&nbsp;&nbsp;&gt;&nbsp;&nbsp;<a
href="http://www.virustotal.com/analisis/b9d55c751d5eed7b34cda3fe708b1bd7">http://www.virustotal.com/analisis/b9d55c751d5eed7b34cda3fe708b1bd7</a><br>
&gt;&nbsp;&nbsp;&gt;<br>
&gt;&nbsp;&nbsp;&gt;&nbsp;&nbsp;We can see<br>
&gt;&nbsp;&nbsp;&gt;<br>
&gt;<br>
Kaspersky,Sophos,F-Secure,CAT-QuickHeal,F-Prot,Ikarus,AntiVir,Prevx1,TheHack<br>
&gt;&nbsp;&nbsp;&gt;&nbsp;&nbsp;er,Webwasher-Gateway will not alert any more.<br>
&gt;&nbsp;&nbsp;&gt;<br>
&gt;&nbsp;&nbsp;&gt;&nbsp;&nbsp;You judge what is it! Or maybe we should think
about what does these<br>
&gt;&nbsp;&nbsp;&gt;&nbsp;&nbsp;Antivirus do???<br>
&gt;&nbsp;&nbsp;&gt;<br>
&gt;&nbsp;&nbsp;&gt;&nbsp;&nbsp;Thanks ;)<br>
&gt;&nbsp;&nbsp;&gt;<br>
&gt;&nbsp;&nbsp;&gt;&nbsp;&nbsp;_______________________________________________<br>
&gt;&nbsp;&nbsp;&gt;&nbsp;&nbsp;Full-Disclosure - We believe in it.<br>
&gt;&nbsp;&nbsp;&gt;&nbsp;&nbsp;Charter: <a
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