so because I use a gmail account it means everything I said is invalid? Why not answer some questions about your practices since it seems your company is a bunch of script kiddies for hire & master's of scaring people into buying services<br>
<br>Also where did the 100,000 hackers figure come from? Did you make this up also?<br><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Sat, May 10, 2008 at 9:18 PM, Robert McGuire <<a href="mailto:rmcguire@secnap.com">rmcguire@secnap.com</a>> wrote:<br>
<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;">I'll take you seriously when you come out from behind your gmail mask.<br>
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Bob McGuire<br>
Director, Channel Sales East<br>
>| SECNAP Network Security<br>
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-----Original Message-----<br>
From: reepex [mailto:<a href="mailto:reepex@gmail.com">reepex@gmail.com</a>]<br>
Sent: Sat 5/10/2008 3:13 PM<br>
To: Michael Scheidell; <a href="mailto:full-disclosure@lists.grok.org.uk">full-disclosure@lists.grok.org.uk</a>; <a href="mailto:bugtraq@securityfocus.com">bugtraq@securityfocus.com</a>; <a href="mailto:dailydave@lists.immunitysec.com">dailydave@lists.immunitysec.com</a>; Kevin Barnabe; Robert McGuire; Jennifer Hamilton<br>
Subject: fear mongering and utter BS from secnap<br>
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</div><div class="Ih2E3d">Where is secreview when you actually need them? After the useless thread<br>
about gmail blah blah I decided to check out <a href="http://www.secnap.com/" target="_blank">http://www.secnap.com/</a> and all<br>
I can say is WHAT THE FUCK.<br>
<br>
The first lines of their website:<br>
"The Internet comes with built in threats from hackers, industrial<br>
Espionage, spyware and employee abuse."<br>
<br>
Sounds like some homeland security brochure<br>
<br>
Followed shortly by:<br>
</div>"Our Managed IPS solution includes our patent pending HackerTrapT IPS that<br>
<div><div></div><div class="Wj3C7c">will block external attacks as well as protect your company from employee<br>
abuse and loss of confidential information. "<br>
<br>
I would love to see some proof of them stopping confidential information<br>
from being gathered over an internal network, but based on their site I am<br>
sure this is more BS anyway.<br>
<br>
Then I browse to:<br>
<a href="http://www.secnap.com/services.php?pg=3" target="_blank">http://www.secnap.com/services.php?pg=3</a><br>
<br>
"Are you aware that there are an estimated 100,000 hackers on the Internet<br>
today, actively scanning government and corporate networks, looking for<br>
vulnerabilities they can exploit to gain access to critical corporate<br>
information?"<br>
<br>
Speaks for itself....<br>
<br>
If you follow the link on this page you find a pdf here:<br>
<a href="http://www.secnap.com/pdfs/pentest.pdf" target="_blank">http://www.secnap.com/pdfs/pentest.pdf</a><br>
<br>
Where it details how they will run public vulnerability scanners and compare<br>
your banners to known vulnerable services. Who are the script kiddies here<br>
again?<br>
<br>
This company is trash and their members should not be allowed to post on<br>
this list. They are Homeland Security/George Bush type fear mongering<br>
retards trying to make a buck and scare people into their nonsense.<br>
<br>
Looking at their site they are another group of paid script kiddies in<br>
business suits.<br>
You better hope that one of "100,000 internet hackers" don't have any<br>
exploits that aren't covered by nessus or secnap will not be able to protect<br>
you anymore.<br>
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