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    On 10/4/2011 7:36 AM, doc mombasa wrote:
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cite="mid:CAFMAuHpgu=fXGRHGHB+qG06kuid25OQ+8XKTE8dGuc7W5auYDQ@mail.gmail.com"
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      <div>well here in denmark they are also "blocked"</div>
      <div>but as most other places it's a block on DNS level so it's
        very easy to get around<br>
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      <div class="gmail_quote">2011/10/4 xD 0x41 <span dir="ltr">&lt;<a
            moz-do-not-send="true" href="mailto:secn3t@gmail.com">secn3t@gmail.com</a>&gt;</span><br>
        <blockquote style="margin: 0px 0px 0px 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;
          border-left-color: rgb(204, 204, 204); border-left-width: 1px;
          border-left-style: solid;" class="gmail_quote">On the <a
            moz-do-not-send="true" href="http://piratebay.org"
            target="_blank">piratebay.org</a> dilemma for isps, i found
          this posted just *now* (10pm,australian time)<br>
          <br>
          Belgian ISPs Ordered To Block The Pirate Bay - <a
            moz-do-not-send="true"
            href="http://feed.torrentfreak.com/%7Er/Torrentfreak/%7E3/FMfrUHk1sZM/"
            target="_blank">http://feed.torrentfreak.com/~r/Torrentfreak/~3/FMfrUHk1sZM/</a><br>
          <br>
          Interesting developments regarding this.. I am using the RSS
          feed on TF to keepup qwith this case.... seems it has taken a
          sharp u-turn!<br>
          headsup!<br>
          <font color="#888888">xd</font>
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              <div class="gmail_quote">On 4 October 2011 18:06, Ferenc
                Kovacs <span dir="ltr">&lt;<a moz-do-not-send="true"
                    href="mailto:tyra3l@gmail.com" target="_blank">tyra3l@gmail.com</a>&gt;</span>
                wrote:<br>
                <blockquote style="margin: 0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;
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                  solid;" class="gmail_quote"><a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="http://vpn.hidemyass.com/vpncontrol/legal.html" target="_blank">http://vpn.hidemyass.com/vpncontrol/legal.html</a><br>
                  <br>
                  "VPN Data<br>
                  <br>
                  What we store: Time stamp and IP address when you
                  connect and<br>
                  disconnect to our service."<br>
                  <br>
                  ...<br>
                  <br>
                  "Legalities<br>
                  <br>
                  Anonymity services such as ours do not exist to hide
                  people from<br>
                  illegal activity. We will cooperate with law
                  enforcement agencies if<br>
                  it has become evident that your account has been used
                  for illegal<br>
                  activities."<br>
                  <br>
                  people should read the TOC, AUP and privacy policy
                  especially if they<br>
                  are planning to use that service for illegal
                  activities.<br>
                  <br>
                  As I mentioned before it is hard to expect that a VPN
                  provider will<br>
                  risk his company for your $11.52/month, and maybe they
                  would try it<br>
                  for some lesser case, but what Lulsec did was grant,
                  so I'm not<br>
                  surprised that they bent.<br>
                  <br>
                  On Tue, Oct 4, 2011 at 1:09 AM, xD 0x41 &lt;<a
                    moz-do-not-send="true"
                    href="mailto:secn3t@gmail.com" target="_blank">secn3t@gmail.com</a>&gt;
                  wrote:<br>
                  &gt; maybe they are law abiding companies? :)<br>
                  &gt;<br>
                  &gt; Who were advertising themselves, and acting like
                  they would NEVER do the<br>
                  &gt; dirty by handing over any payment records etc...
                  wich is half the reason i<br>
                  &gt; believe the people use theose ones, advertising
                  to protect you.. not to give<br>
                  &gt; your infos up, for really, no reason. as they
                  did.<br>
                  &gt; Law abiding or not, then they should be
                  advertising as a law abiding<br>
                  &gt; company, and not acting like some
                  hackers-oparadise vpn service.<br>
                  &gt; xd<br>
                  &gt;<br>
                  &gt;<br>
                  &gt; On 4 October 2011 06:16, Ferenc Kovacs &lt;<a
                    moz-do-not-send="true"
                    href="mailto:tyra3l@gmail.com" target="_blank">tyra3l@gmail.com</a>&gt;
                  wrote:<br>
                  &gt;&gt;<br>
                  &gt;&gt; On Mon, Oct 3, 2011 at 10:35 PM, Laurelai
                  &lt;<a moz-do-not-send="true"
                    href="mailto:laurelai@oneechan.org" target="_blank">laurelai@oneechan.org</a>&gt;
                  wrote:<br>
                  &gt;&gt; &gt; On 10/3/2011 10:42 AM, Antony widmal
                  wrote:<br>
                  &gt;&gt; &gt;&gt; Using an external VPN provider to
                  cover your trace clearly shows your<br>
                  &gt;&gt; &gt;&gt; incompetency and your idiot
                  assumption.<br>
                  &gt;&gt; &gt;&gt; Trying to blame the VPN provider
                  rather than accepting your mistake<br>
                  &gt;&gt; &gt;&gt; and learning from it clearly show
                  your 3 years old mentality.<br>
                  &gt;&gt; &gt;&gt;<br>
                  &gt;&gt; &gt;&gt; Also, could you please stop posting
                  as GLOW Xd as well ?<br>
                  &gt;&gt; &gt;&gt; We do not need your schizophrenic
                  script kiddie "lolololol", "xD",<br>
                  &gt;&gt; &gt;&gt; hugs, &nbsp;spamming on this mailing
                  list.<br>
                  &gt;&gt; &gt;&gt;<br>
                  &gt;&gt; &gt;&gt; You being on this mailing list is
                  once again not the best idea.<br>
                  &gt;&gt; &gt;&gt;<br>
                  &gt;&gt; &gt;&gt; Thanks,<br>
                  &gt;&gt; &gt;&gt; Antony<br>
                  &gt;&gt; &gt; Actually XD and me are two different
                  people. Second issues of privacy<br>
                  &gt;&gt; &gt; are always relevant, not understanding
                  that law abiding individuals<br>
                  &gt;&gt; &gt; should always be concerned about
                  companies that hand over personal info<br>
                  &gt;&gt; &gt; at the request of an authority figure
                  are the ones with three year old<br>
                  &gt;&gt; &gt; mentalities.<br>
                  &gt;&gt;<br>
                  &gt;&gt; maybe they are law abiding companies? :)<br>
                  &gt;&gt; this whole fuss wouldn't have happened, if
                  everybody could just stay a<br>
                  &gt;&gt; law abiding citizen.<br>
                  &gt;&gt;<br>
                  &gt;&gt; --<br>
                  &gt;&gt; Ferenc Kov&aacute;cs<br>
                  &gt;&gt; @Tyr43l - <a moz-do-not-send="true"
                    href="http://tyrael.hu" target="_blank">http://tyrael.hu</a><br>
                  &gt;&gt;<br>
                  &gt;&gt;
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    It also just tends to increase TPB's traffic in the long run.<br>
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